Sea to Summit Cinder Cd1 Down Quilt
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
- Check out the Sea to Summit Cinder Cd1 Down Quilt here:
www.snowys.com.au/cinder-cd1-...
When you want versatile warmth plus freedom of movement, throw over a Cinder CD1 Down Quilt from Sea to Summit.
This quilt is suitable for use in 4° - 10°C and can be used on it’s own, or you can draw the foot and neck in for warmth, or put it over your other bags on chilly nights. It’s got a 20D waterproof nylon NanoShell outer fabric for moisture and wind protection, and it's filled with 750+ Loft ULTRA-DRY Down™ which is RDS certified and has a water-repellent treatment. It’s got a sewn-through quilted construction, press studs, and adjustable straps to secure it to your compatible Sea to Summit mat. This quilt also comes with a compression sack for storage, and a larger storage cell for when the adventure is over.
In this video, our outdoor expert Ben gives you the full lowdown on all the features of this quilt.
He starts out with the packed dimensions, then takes it out to show you what it looks like. Ben then talks you through you the materials, construction, features, and then demonstrates how to attach it to a Sea to Summit mat.
He also shows you how to adjust it and attach another quilt to create a double. After that, Ben demonstrates how to add it on top of another bag to show you the QuiltLock system, and tells you whether you can attach it to other brand's bags - so check it out above for all the details.
0:00 - Intro
0:13 - Sizes, weight & packed dimensions
0:38 - Storage sack
1:42 - Materials
2:20 - Construction
2:51 - Corner pockets, drawstring & straps
3:50 - Combining with a STS mat
5:17 - Trying the bag with a mat
6:31 - Adjusting the strap options
8:08 - QuiltLock system
9:44 - Suggested temperature rating
12:16 - Dimensions
How much of a legend is ben " from snowys". I've brought so much camping gear based on his reviews and never disappointed.. bloody champion.
Mee too. It’s my hobby to watch Ben’s and Lauren’s reviews and end up buying so many gears for Easter camping 😁
Well that's given extra bounce to my step today thanks, Sam, I hope we can continue to keep you well informed. ~ Ben
one of the best reviews i've ever seen!
Thanks Mikael! Will pass your feedback on to Ben.
~ Lauren
If I were in Australia, I'd be buying from you! Just ordered my quilt to use on the Camino. Thanks for helping me figure out what to get. Your reviews are super helpful. Thanks!
No worries Adele! Hope you have an awesome trip.
~ Lauren
Really liking my Cinder CD1 quilt (purchased from Snowys). I've used it in 8 degrees Celcius in a tent and in a hammock wearing a thermal, fleece and ultralight puffer. I've also used it inside a SOL Escape Bivvy when tarp camping (campsite blanketed by low cloud with constant splashback from heavy rain).
Thanks for your feedback, Sea To Summits sleep systems are really well thought out. ~ Ben
Good review, always good to study the subject before the lesson begins. Cheers from North Queensland ✌
Thanks for your feedback, Burtrat. ~ Ben
this is a great review, really, this is perfect. You did it so clear and showed it also when you layed in there, mentioned your siz...! Thanks a lot! Live in Switzerland though. So i buy it somewhere here.
I'm glad you found it useful, Daniel, thanks for your comment. ~ Ben
Great review
Thanks, Aldric. ~ Ben
Nice! I do love most sea to summit products especially their etherlite XT sleeping pad Rectangular RW. But...I bought their Micro 2 sleeping bag and its was a hybrid style bag with drawstring foot box. Loved everything about it especially the packability. That being said i went on a semi rainy 3 day camp trip and that bag failed miserably! Just the moisture in the air made it nearly useless! Slept in a damp sleeping bag on several trips. Bag was dry at the start too. Their down is supposed to be hydrophobic cured dri down. After owning two very expensive down bags and having them fail miserably i went back to synthetic and have been extremely happy i did. My fav being mountain hardwears Lamina Z flame 22 degree bag! Laminated seams and highly moisture resistant insulation. Not all down is bad. Maybe i got a few bad batches or just had crap luck because i bought a kuiu super down hooded jacket and its the best down product i have used to date. Maybe sea to summit has upgraded their down by now? Best of luck! Hike on!
Thanks for the feedback @Guitar Hiker444 - Its important to understand what conditions you'll be primarily in when choosing wether synthetic or down is right for you!
~ Lauren
Aren’t there two quilt lock press studs at the bottom of the Ascent AC III sleeping bag too? I have four press studs on my Ascent AC III Men’s Regular bag, might pair this with a quilt now. Appreciate the thorough review.
Just checked out the Ac2 & 3Theres one at the bottom, and two at the top which primarily join together as a zip slider lock.
~ Lauren
Thanks for the excellent review. When was the Cinder released and how does it compare to the Traveller quilt series?
The Traveller series was a full sleeping bag, Tim, so it doesn't really compare. Originally Sea To Summit introduced the Ember Quilt, which is the high tech lightweight version of the Cinder which they released this year. The Cinder is a more affordable down quilt, the trade off being that it doesn't offer the same warmth to weight ratio as the Ember. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors Thanks, Ben. Keep up the awesome work and reviews.
I working on getting some new gear and don't know if I should get the sts ember quilt or the cinder quilt. Also would a sleeping bag liner be good to use with a quilt?
The Ember is a lighter weigh, higher grade down quilt, where as the Cinder is more of a entry level option for people who want down but want to save a few pennies. You can absolutely use liners with a quilt, it just comes down to personal preference and if you would find it comfortable. It may help to give you a bit of extra warmth, but there generally isn't a temperature claim on them - more likely a ball park idea.
~ Lauren
Now, there is Cinder CdII Down, do have it, and if you do, what is new on them? By the way, great video and thorough explanations. Thanks'!
Nothing new, Rade, they are just a warmer version. We have them here - www.snowys.com.au/cinder-cd2-down-quilt. At the time of writing this comment I noticed that we have the incorrect images on the page though, the Cinder Cd2 has vertical baffled over the torso which is a warmer design. We will get the images fixed up asap.~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors is the CD 2 come with stitched through baffles or does it have box baffles that don't stitch the inner and outer fabric together ?
@@antduke2361 the CD2 has box baffles throughout, Ant, whereas the CD1 is stitched through. ~ Ben
Can you snap the press studs on one side to the corresponding studs on the opposite side, essentially eliminating the straps for hammock use?
You can, Rodney, but it ends up being a little tight for use as a sleeping bag and the studs may end up coming apart as you move around. ~ Ben
The button clasp on mine ripped first time I used it. Had to stitch it up, not a massive deal but still disappointing as it would have been easy to reinforce those areas with a stronger material very cheaply without adding much weight.
Just be careful when using the straps not to put any pressure in them and keep a needle and thread for repairs.
They are lightweight materials and need to be treated as such, that's the trade off for lightweight unfortunately. ~ Ben
Would like to see the Ember quilts too please
They are on our todo list, j78987, hopefully within the next month (ish). ~ Ben
They seem almost identical, ember has a non adjustable foot box and more loft, same straps ect.
@@SnowysOutdoors Hi Ben I'm still waiting for the videos on the Ember quilts. About to buy one but will wait for your review first.
@@gabes-t sorry, Lauren and I need to clone ourselves, so many products to review and only two of us to do it! I'll see how I go this week, but I can't make any promises sorry. ~ Ben
IS there a Cd2 coming out?
Not that we are aware of sorry, Josh. If you want something warmer I'd suggest looking at the Ember quilts from Sea To Summit. They are a bit more technical and a little more expensive. We'll get a video review on these done soon. ~ Ben
I just got one of these. Is it normal that there are these clumped cold spots in a "brand new" sleeping bag? When I hold it up against the light, there are a lot of lighter patches.
I'm wondering if the sb has been used already (there are some loose threads at the bottom, too), or if it just has been stored in a bag for too long, since it's an "older model" from what I understand. There's also a sleeping bag ID written and a stamp "Delivery Date" from 2021-12. Not quite sure what to make of it.
It's normal for down to be clumped a bit after it has been stored, especially when it is ultra high loft like the fill in the Cinder. This is usually resolved by shaking the down so it all separates and lofts to fill the baffles.
Regarding the loose threads, I'd need to see them to know if they are an issue, it's not uncommon to have the odd thread here and there but is shouldn't be coming unstitched perse.
The cinder is a current model in the STS range as far as I am aware, the date you refer to is likely a manufacture date i.e. when it left the factory, but I am only speculating.
Hope that helps.
~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors Hey, Ben! Thanks a lot for the response!
The cold spots are mostly gone, with the exception of a tiny (maybe ~1/8 of an inch) strip along the stitching. I guess because of the sewn-through-construction?
The odd threads don't look like they'd end up causing problems. So I'll leave it at that.
Thanks again!
Greatest hoax in the history of hiking. It's literally a blanket and what it lacks in comfort and heat retention needs to be covered by a better, heavier insulation pad (which can't properly make up for what you lose). You also pay more for less, classic vanity item. Meanwhile, the promised leg freedom is an illusion.
Hoax! Really, Angelo! I think it's an excellent choice for lightweight hikers. People in the ultra-lightweight space are usually willing to accept some trade offs to save on pack weight, and the leg freedom comes down to how it is used and what mat it is paired with.
There usually isn't a need to upgrade your mat as many mats already offer the insulation required. The part of the sleeping bag you lie on is compressed and offers very little insulation, a quilt does away with all this fill and fabric that lays between your body and the mat as well as zippers to save on weight and packed space.
I'm not saying it is for everyone, but I'd certainly be considering a quilt for long treks so I can carrying less weight and enjoy the trail.
~ Ben
I have the the Warner 2 version of this quilt. The strap system is different to other quilts and though fiddly to set up the difference in comfort to a sleeping bag is very noticeable to me especially as a side sleeper. The mummy bags are a nightmare for a full side sleep like me. If you sleep on your back or belly I wouldn't be too bothered about these quilts and a bag wouldn't be any better or worse. For a side sleeper who toss and turns this is a great improvement in overall comfort and makes total practical sense.