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- Will Roofers love or hate Roof Roof Maxx technology? Process and technology explained
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00:00 Intro
00:23 Revitalizing a roof
01:10 Why Roof Maxx works over replacements
01:56 Quality control by square footage
02:09 Rejuvenate, beautify, clean
02:55 5 years added to roof
03:55 Do you like Roof Maxx? Like or dislike!
04:20 Teaching the customer leads to referrals
Great video, Would like to know more of the cost per sq ft. Never said it would prevent leaks. Yes you can put off getting a roof, But add inflation to the cost of waiting longer. Prices for labor and materials keep going up.
Have you done a video on thoughts on the pros and cons of being a roof maxx dealer and thoughts on the upfront dealer investment that’s required?
It is a great product, ( Im not a dealer), Only issue is.. Yes after explaining homeowner how the shingles rejuvenate, and doing a roof tune up they maybe up for it, so the issue is, that it does rejuvenate, but it takes a few weeks, months, to bring the shingles to look clean.. Homeowners want everything right away.. So that's where the guys that soft wash come in, they leave and the roof looks clean. ( excuse my English) BTW-- Mike Feazel is an outstanding guy, I have known him from years and he will always pick up the phone, whatever questions one may have.
Thanks for great feedback! Appreciate it!
You should have a roof washing first to remove the pollutants, grime, and algae for proper absorption.
This gives "wow factor" and gives the most value for the money spent; we Soft Wash before all our Rejuvenation treatments.
I'm a dealer for Greener Shingles Roof Rejuvenation, and the product works and is far superior to the ratio Roof Max uses
@@nomessroofing I thought they were soft washing too as I own a company that does that but apparently not…. that should be the first step
We all know that re-staining/treating your wood deck every few years will make it last longer. No salesman is needed to sell that. Letting it go to save money is not an option, most especially if there is a chance you could sell your home in the future. I'm all for hoping to avoid expeses, but life is life. Either your run from something and get fortunate (ethical?) to stick the next guy with the bill, or you maintain things that are expensive and important. Life IS that easy😊 Conditioning/treating makes a LOT of sense BUT, it comes down to two things... 1. Does it really work? If so, 2. What's the cost? 20% or less of replacement makes sense the further you go south of the number. Above that, you need to have a reason - like knowing you are going to sell in 3-5 years and NOT wanting your roof to start showing a lot of wear. If you wait, then you will pay for a new roof one way or the other (either by lowering your sale price, or getting a lowball offer), but you wont get to benefit from it. Like my wife says, if we are going to remodel, do it now so we can actually enjoy it, not just so our house will sell. I wont make that mistake twice.
I’m a residential repaint pro and every customer that I paint for that’s selling says “I wish we would have did this for ourselves”. So your wife is spot on!
Interesting! I'm a roofer of 29yrs and haven't heard of spraying oil on asphalt shingles. I'm skeptical... The speaker seems like a nice enough man. I wasn't impressed by all that over-spay they had flying all over the places. It might be a good idea, but only within a certain area of deterioration. Sure, an oil can probably slow the process a little, but it can't repair the damages. There is a point when a roof is getting too-far-gone and spending money on this oil can't change that. Hopefully this company tells people that. I wonder if this plant oil is compatible with the petrol oil in asphalt shingles(some things won't mix well)
I saw another video and they explained that a roof w leaks and/or more than a third worn from the shingles is not a candidate for their product.
As a homeowner this product sounds fantastic but as a roofer for 32+ years it sounds like a scam. Most roofs that would qualify for the treatment would last 5 or more years anyway .
Does this effect the manufacturer’s warranty?
This product is a great target for people who want to sell their home, but don't want to have to give up so much money to the buyer because their roof is 20 years old. I'm wondering if an estimator will give the roof more value or just hear that it's 20 years old and knock off the amount of a roof replacement automatically on their home evaluation. (We are about to sell our home and we are in this situation right now).
I'm the lead project manager for seamless systems inc and no is the answer to your question because it's nothing more than a soft wash roof cleaning. It doesn't do everything it claims to do. It doesn't add years to the life of ANY shingle, once the granules are gone they're gone, it doesn't fix bruising or cracked shingles. The only thing it does is clean the roof and add possibly some pliability (which does nothing as far as restoring) as it allegedly claims. It's exactly like all the anti-aging creams you see out there that allegedly claim to stop or slow aging , no different. All the claims they allegedly make they use "science" or paid endorsements to back. No shingle manufacturer will back or support their claims. No architect,engineer or insurance company will either! With all that said I implore you to do your research and contact certainteed,tamko,owens corning,atlas or ANY roofing manufacturer along with architect firms,roof consultants or insurance corporations and ask them do they support or back the claims they make. Companies like this are making millions off of people because the people aren't doing their research. Roofmax themselves as a company doesn't even stand behind the warranty and make the contractor do it so as to put that burden on the contractor instead of themselves!! That should honestly be the first red flag!! Hope this helps answer your questions and why I explained it in a way regular non experienced homeowners can understand. I'm using facts not "science" to support what i say.
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What's not to like? Another option for a complicated roof like that. A new roof isn't some safe bet when there are valley, dormers, and chimneys and stuff. You could end up with 15 goons making a mess and cutting every corner. Or you get 3 to 5 good installers taking a week. This technology could improve over the years too.
It’s up to the customer if they want to spend money to get more life. Maybe there better off waiting 2 years and apply that money on a good class 4 shingle like Malarkey legacy for example.
Please try to explain this product to Insurance Companies in Florida! They won't insure Shingle Roofs at 15 years of age.
Hi Randy! Roof Maxx has been working closely with multiple national insurance companies to gain broad acceptance of the product application as a solution to overcome policy cancellation and non-renewal notices. Our dealers have sprayed countless jobs with the approval of various insurers on a job-by-job basis. We are also engaging the insurance regulatory bodies and political representatives to offer a solution that benefits all stakeholders.
Florida PA’s and lawyers did that…
What type of oil is used in the process ???
Somewhat interested but roofs now have lifetime warranties so spending $3000 at 18 years may not make sense, however I can see the rational for extending the roof 5 to 10 years..I’d possibly consider coating the south and west sides since there’s about a 5 year aging factor on those sides, in Los Angeles and 5 years later possibly coat the entire roof…Will it stop granular loss? Will it create a slippery surface when it rains like silicone..I’ll admit the more I watched the more I was impressed…
Lifetime Warranty on shingles is misleading. Take a close look at that warranty. After 10 years it pro rates incredibly. There are also many restrictions to the warranty. If it found they were installed incorrectly warranty will not cover that claim. Here is a link to major manufactures 2022 warranty. www.certainteed.com/resources/Asphalt-LowSlope-Res-Warranty-e-2201ctr.pdf
More than that. I was quoted 2,500$ for my roof, and it is only 900 square feet with a 3/12 pitch. Easy peasy... my roof is like a dance floor.
I wound up hiring one of these "great" roofers that posts from every job on social media constantly showing how they do the job right. They literally show you in the videos how they go the extra mile to do it properly. I wound up with no head flashing and my new shingles caulked to my siding.
Dimitri my roofing skills are good it’s just finding work is my problem
Interesting 🤔
Former dealer here. Product has promise but the company is ran as a money grab. Product is iffy past 1 year from what I’ve seen. Corporate does not stand behind the warranty. They make the dealer stand behind it. Corporate forces dealers to pay for advertisements with corporate info and then charge you for the lead that you’ve paid to generate. You must be Roof Maxx and cannot operate as a roofing company. This is my experience as a former dealer.
So you can't sell roof max as a product you must say you work for roof max?
@@millershomeimprovement3798 yes, I joined to do just what Mike says on the video. When the customer has an old roof that doesn’t have storm damage and needs some time to save some money bro replace. Last March or so Mike told us on a every Monday mandatory call that “Roof Maxx is not an add on. It’s a business like jiffy lube.” That was the exact reason I joined up. It was discussed with the rep and they supported that. This is just one of the bait and switch events that I ran into that ultimately made me and others get out.
So could you start up another entity and operate that way? An entity that represents roof max and still use your own entity as well? Seems like it would be easy to bounce around.
I almost became a roof maxx dealer. Then I found greener Shingles. Better product, less expensive, you can run it as a sub-division of your existing roofing company, and the owner isn't in for a pump & dump. Territories are double the size for half the price. I would check out Greener Shingles!
@@forwardobserver7294 haha. This is the kind of stuff they do.”forward observer”. My experience has nothing to do with a deck. It had everything to do with an idea of how a product could be used and a company later deciding they wanted to own me instead of partner with me. Nice try with the spin from the no name account though. I think this should reinforce the fact that there is some sketchy stuff going on here. Btw, I’ve Made it. 20 years so don’t try to tell me how to get the word out. The problem was the money grab.
Brand new shingles crease when bent at 45 deg.
The biggest thing with roof failure is when the tar strip starts failing, which starts causing wind damage to roof. Does this product re-adhear all tar under shingles. If it does, I would like to see a video to prove that on a 20-25 year old roof where it's probably failing.
This is like anti aging creams that claim to slow or halt the aging process! If your an experienced roofer you know this is nothing more than a roof wash! Once granules are gone they're gone! Doesn't fix cracks or blisters,doesn't restore fiberglass etc. Call your roofing manufacturers and talk to them about it and they'll be glad to answer your questions!
To some extent yes. If there's already a bunch of dust and debris that's been blown between shingles then it won't work as well. Also for shingles 20-25 yrs old the more obvious concern is often granule loss. Too much granule loss and Roof Maxx becomes a wasted investment. Yes you reintroduce oils into the shingles, but there's nothing protecting the new oils from UV rays.
I had the Roof Maxx treatment , and it did not resemble the videos on youtube. My treatment did not foam up at all and looked clear like it was water. It also appeared that parts of the roof were missed of treatment. These videos clearly show the entire roof is saturated and foamed up from one part of the beginning application to the end of the application . In the videos you can clearly see where the treatment started and ended. Wish i had gotten a sample of the product before application. Very skeptical.
Why can't the sealant be applied to the roof shingles at the factory to make the shingles last longer?
Because it's not a sealant. It's an oil and it replaces oil which has dried up from the shingles after years of being exposed to the elements.
Wonder how the small sections of the roof were done and what kind of mess it makes when it gets on the siding
Why not put some of that tropi-cool silicone white goop? Keeps it cool and protects for 5-10+ years.
So once nail pops start on a roof, you can fix them, but more are coming. So does this product strengthen the shingles enough to stop expanding and contracting nails? After 20 years nail pops are coming.
I'm guessing based on the video that they do small repair work also
@@forwardobserver7294 yes I do and we do
With fall coming, is it too late to shingle a roof in Minnesota or Wisconsin?
Nope, they do it all year round
Does it fix hail damage 😅 the question I was asking for lol
Also from a cost perspective I feel it costs the same as the average deductible. If I had to choose 2-3k for roof restoration or replacement replacement wins every time
Insurance doesn't cover replacement unless you are fortunate to have damage by a storm and your insurer covers full replacement. If you are waiting for storm, you best hope it comes before you are no longer covered. Think about this... You plan to sell your house in a year or two and decide to wait. Next thing you know, you drive up to your house and start NOTICING the roof is turning. Now, suddenly your home is worth $20k less because the new buyer will require a replacement.
@@forwardobserver7294 didn't quit answer my question no offense.
@@mohualsharaf6330 I found this video. Should answer the hail question. Sorry. czcams.com/video/0nMrZdvQt1o/video.html
Does not fix hail
You need to check with your home insurance agent before wasting money on these quick fix companies.
Not sure this is really cost effective. Sounds like it makes the shingles look a little better. They can bend the shingles without breaking after the treatment. The roof is still only good for they say another 5 years. The cost to have your roof last another 5 years vs the cost of putting a new one on and lasting 25-30 years. I’m replacing my roof every time that will fix everything and I don’t have to worry about coming up with $5,000 to put new roof on in 5 years. Might be a good fix for some folks but I just don’t see it being a cost effective buy. Good video wish you the best of luck. That my opinion and I’m sticking to it.
Say roof is 20 years old. I guess one needs to do the math and see what comes out cheaper. May even depend on size / square footage of the roof. Also, curious how effective just using unrefinded (or waste oil) soybean oil would be.
Take my case as an example. My roof is 2850sqft. An OC Platinum installer installing Duration, using at least 4 OC products in the install, will charge me close to $20k with tax in my market ($$$$). On average the roof should last let’s say 20 years before any really noticeable wear, granule loss or drying out. That comes out to about $1000 a year. If Roof Maxx comes out 2 or 3 times for $3000 a treatment every 5 years then I can get 10-15 more years for $6k-$9k it can be cost effective. Starting early enough, at let’s say 15 years, they might even be able to double the realistic lifespan to 40 years or more.
Would you apply Conklin Sealant, Silicone, or Coating on shingles?
I like this product. It is most definitely for a company trying to scale their business and continue to grow. For the storm only guys, this sucks. Great product!
Great feedback! Are you a dealer?
Thanks Jessie, for your stamp of approval!
@@RoofMaxx you are welcome. I will do some more research on your product. Would love to see everything about it and put it to use.
It's great for washing your roof for sure! That's where it ends because all the claims they make are as false as it gets! Talk to roofing manufacturers,architects,engineers and insurance companies and ask do they support or back the claims they make outside of providing a soft wash for cleaning the roof....You won't find not one that does and that's for a reason.
As a roofer, this is my argument. Would you rather pay for an oil solution? Which would maybe extend your roof five years and then have to pay for a more expensive replacement in the future? (Cost of materials and labor will 100% be more expensive in 5 years) OR pay for a replacement now and save the extra money you would have spent (for oil solution and more expensive replacement) for other repairs and upgrades on your home? You decide!
Your Roof will last 5 more years that is good. The customer should be informed that their roof will be much more expensive in 5 years. So 1 argument would be the customer will have to pay more for roof max and have additional overages when they replace the roof. So if a customer is financially prepared to replace the roof they probably should. If they are not then they should consider roofmax. People shouldn't have to put on more than 1 roof in their life. Unless they buy a house early in life and stay in the same house in the same house for a long time. What is not common.
Great point. I like the way you think
This is a great point that I think should be discussed by Dmitry. This is already something I talk about with homeowners when their roof has 2-3 years left but they are financially secure enough to replace it now. Material prices alone have seen drastic increases over the last 2-3 years, and when you factor cost of living increases that must be factored into labor pricing, 2-3 years can have a drastic effect on the final price, let alone another 5 years.
@@RoofingInsights3.0 Thanks! I like the way you think as well, not always but most of the time. ;)
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I guess there is your argument to be made. True. On the other hand, it's inevitable to escape a new roof replacement at some point, number one issue is affordability, like with anything, if pockets were deep enough with the majority of consumers that own properties and have this type of roof then replacement price won't be a problem for them at any time for any quality of roofing material they should choose, ( Asphalt Shingles) but that is never the case. There is always going to be an end life of this type of product be it 15, 20, 30, 40, years. (depends on many factors) When the shingles truly fail, a price will have to be paid at that point no matter what the costs are at that time. 25 year to lifetime shingles (warranty) are unheard of today in the industry (there are some exceptions )because manufacturers are making these roofing products cheaper and cheaper. (and while they are making more and more money) Over the last 5-10 years they transferred the burden of the faulty shingles on the insurance companies to pay out in claims for a product that won't last as long as the warranties say they will. Now, insurance companies are passing that same burden on the homeowners to bear the cost, whether through premiums, high deductibles, letters of cancelation, or premature roof replacements. (10-15 years +/-) Let's say a forty-year shingle on a roof today only lasted 13 years, the homeowner just paid Ex. 20k to get a product and was told that it should get close to 40 years of life, but now they find out it has to be replaced at only 13 years old. (without Roof Maxx.) Today prices have gone up ( materials plus labor), so now a new shingle roof cost 25K. In that 13-year time frame, the homeowner will have paid 45k. Now with a Roof Maxx treatment, for the same 13 years, the cost would be about +/- 8k. Being able to extend the shingle life 5,10, or even 15 more years. (it the roof qualifies and for the full 3 treatments to be determined every 5 years.) makes it more sensible while allowing the homeowner time to built a nest egg for when the roof does need to be replaced. Other than a physical event happening to the roof most shingles or roofs fail because of the lack of oils, they simply dry out which causes them to get brittle and cause these things to happen. Thermal shock ( expansion and contraction caused by sharp temperature changes) This can cause thermal cracking, (which can cause splitting and leaking or have weak points and make them vulnerable to ripping or tearing off in high winds.) Seal strip failure, ( holds one shingle to another to help avoid uplift of the shingle) Loss of granular adhesion (protection from the sun), Permeability, which helps the shingle absorb less water from rains and melting snow (oil and water don't mix), and better flexibility of the shingle in general. Each homeowner has to make that decision for themselves. Get longer life out their current roof( if the roof qualifies it can help up to 80%-90% of homeowners) Need to replace (12%-14% won't qualify) and people that don't care (3%- 6%) because they have the funds to replace at whatever time they want no matter how much life could be left or the condition the roof is in.
I wouldn't place a huge bet that shingle will go up in price. Renewable energy will lower demand for oil. 5 to 10 years asphalt could be much cheaper.
What concerns me is that it's made from Soybean oil, which is what auto wiring harnesses are made of. Sounds pretty good, but unfortunately it attracts Wood Rats or Tree Rats. They chew the wiring & nest in it & if not caught in time find their way into your car following where ever the wiring goes. Spraying mint oil repels them from your wiring for a bit, but has to be reapplied regularly I was lucky that I caught them because of the windshield washer fluid leaked from them chewing the lines. The dealership said I saved thousands by catching it early. Obviously when exposed to the weather on shingles you'd be spraying mint oil constantly. As it is anywhere theres water, pet food, chicken coops, fruit shrubs & trees attract Rats, but they won't chew on your roof unless they smell soybean.
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The tar paper itself is NOT made of soybean oil. And likely it is NOT tasty or easy to borrow in as it is exposed / not under a car hood. Regarding in your car, is spraying mint oil to repels them the only solution you've heard of if a component is made of soybeans ? My other thought is that perhaps one might replace the wiring harness with one made out of a different material. Anyone with thoughts or actual experience with this?
Get your roof done asap...whi knows how pricey materials will be in 5 years
I bet it costs more than a deductible. Lol. Would be great to sell your home and say you did something to it but if the buyer has a lick of sense they will ask how old the roof is. Anything close to 20 years and it will probably need to be replaced in the next decade. Will do some research on it but not sold quite yet. Would have to know pricing per sq
I'm a roofer in Texas and a dealer in North Houston for Green Shingles Roof Rejuventation.Not trying to put down Roof Max, but Greener Shingles is far superior to Roof Max ratio and oil content being sprayed. Green Shingles works as advertised. On all the roof treated (50 + homes last year) we have always been far less then the Homeowner's Deducable! That being said, if your roof is damaged and insurance will cover (and you can afford the deductible or out pocket if not covered by ins.) always get a new roof! This product is designed for the individuals that need more time out of existing shingles (selling home) or can't afford the deductible. This treatment will give you the peace of mind and is a more affordable, greener alternative to replacement.
Is it available in Canada
Hi Mark! Unfortunately not yet - however, we're expanding at a rapid pace and we do have plans to expand into Canada soon!
@@RoofMaxx let me know when available, thanks
nope JT wont allow that either!
Why i can't see the dislikes?
CZcams took it away on all videos long time ago
I think this would be a great solution if you get a insurance clam denied. #roofing
I agree
@@RoofingInsights3.0 I am curious to know on my end. Can you make money with ice dams Clams in the winter in Minnesota?
@@sellersroofingcompany-newb2164 this product isn’t a leak stopper or preventer, so if the current roof / ventilation / insulation set up will allow for ice damning then the ice damning will continue
Yes, I have ice dam removal business. In ice dam year you will make money
@@RoofingInsights3.0 I think clearing ice dams is a sales scam. Once the sun comes out the ice will melt in its own😆😉
Im not saying this doesnt work, but it just doesnt make sense, only last 5 years.
This just seems to be soft washing rebranding?
Roof snake is awesome
Yes it is
You can’t rejuvenate nail pops!!! They will be successful, just like car salesmen that sell you undercoating for your car😂
Our company is Eric roof technology we are in Nigeria we are interested in your technology pls let us partner here in Nigeria
I don’t think this product makes sense in Florida. Insurance companies are requiring early replacement for roofs.
Hi there! We have a lot of really great dealers in the state of Florida who are thriving! Roof Maxx works closely with multiple national insurance companies to gain broad acceptance of the product application as a solution to overcome policy cancellation and non-renewal notices. Our dealers have sprayed countless jobs with the approval of various insurers on a job-by-job basis. We are also engaging the insurance regulatory bodies and political representatives to offer a solution that benefits all stakeholders.
Good luck to those that choose to go down this path. I have been around a long time and seen all kinds of coatings and treatments. None ever lived up to the hype. I will pass on this.
Good luck to those who want to get on the "world wide web". I've seen all kinds of new fangled solution to communication and nothing lives up to they hype. HaHaHa!
@@forwardobserver7294 touche!
You can’t even see dislikes anymore
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You should have a roof washing first to remove the pollutants, grime, and algae for proper absorption.
This gives "wow factor" and gives the most value for the money spent; we Soft Wash before all our Rejuvenation treatments.
I'm a dealer for Greener Shingles Roof Rejuvenation, and the product works and is far superior to the ratio Roof Max uses
🤨 i been roofing for 30 years an i think they full of it an if the grains are coming off it dosen't matter how much crap you put on it the shingles have had it i saw the commercial for this company an in it the guy says the shingles where blowing off well i dont think you spaying them with some chemical is going to stop that but thats just 30 years of experience talking but you go ahead with yo bad self
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I ROOFED HOUSES FOR FORTY YEARS ALL THESE CHEMICALS ARE NOT GOOD OVER TIME IT MIGHT EAT UP THE ROOF I WOULD NOT USE IT MYSELF BUT THAT'S ME and hail damage no good.
Hahahahahahaha
It's a rip off scan
You can make some money selling snake oil for a few years till the next snake oil salesmen come into town 😂
Snake oil…..
More like soy oils …
Is that R Z Roofing🤣 Embrace what will help you service clients better.
Nice commercial !! 🤦🏻♂️ This video didn’t proof anything.
So I called Roof Maxx and got a very curt lady on the phone who finally said the cost is approximately 20% of a new roof and the treatment lasts for 5 years. Also, it can be done only 3 times. That means in 15 years you will still need to replace the roof.
If the cost is 20% and lasts for 5 years of a 20 year roof, ( 5X20%=100%) why would anyone spend any money on a "band aid" solution when, if you do the math, you can replace the roof at the same cost and have a BRAND NEW ROOF???? This sounds like gobbledygook all the way around.
What does flexibility in a shingle have to do with a flat surface… seems like a money grab scam.
Dimitri I just started a roofing business in California having hard time finding customer please help me my company name is regalroofs I am losing everything please help me
Metal or nothing!! The hell with shingles wtf is it 1970 ....