SOUTHGATE OUT NOW!
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- čas přidán 13. 06. 2022
- Gareth Southgate needs to walk now. England have been beaten 4-0 at home to Hungary at Molyneux in the Nations League. Our appalling form in this competition continues and with a World Cup in Qatar just around the corner, we need to make a bold move now and sack Gareth Southgate.
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Should Gareth Southgate be sacked?
Abso fucking lutely
Yes. He plays terrorist ball and will make england get relegated
No
1,000,000%
Yes.
You're one of the few who has consistently and rightfully explained time and time again given Southgate the accurate assessment of his level as a manager. With what he has had at his disposal, he should have won the Euros at least. I'll be surprised at this rate that England get out of their group.
Yeah but was the pre match woke kneeling up to scratch?
people are forgetting, we had the euros won, Italy really werent that good when they played us, we were 1-0 up, at home, in the first minute. like a good manager doesnt bottle that.
I think most people know that Southgate is a yes man and a good candidate for the FA because of that. Good with the media as well.
We had a strronger team than Italy for sure everywhere but the mdifield. Same with Croatia at the last World Cup we should have beateb both with a top manager.
@@abdulhamidsaid3467 The media will turn on him, I hope, because he is USELESS!!
I've been pretty lenient on Southgate, even praiseworthy, but this international break - not just tonight's result - has changed my mind. Tbh, it's been obvious for a while that Southgate is out of his depth tactically. He has to go, he's had years now to instill some confidence in his ability but that just hasn't happened imo. Even with our tournament performances, it's clearer now that we were more lucky than anything with some outstanding individuals pulling us out of it (kane, sterling etc.). I don't want to be disrespectful to Southgate though, I do think he's given his all in this role and is a top professional, but he just isn't up to scratch. I totally agree with the point about wasting our talent, so it's important that we act quickly but without panicking as Kane said.
Who's gonna replace him? Oh, you have no idea?
@@ktkee7161 Graham Potter should
@@ktkee7161 that's why I said not to panic. It may take a while for a better candidate to become available, but I don't know how you can be content with the way we play and the tactical decisions we make with the talent we have unless you're not an England fan. Southgate has been in the job for years and hasn't shown improvement in this regard. We would be wasting this talent if we stick with him for too much longer. So in a sense I agree with you that sacking him right now with no plan would be a bad decision, but I really disagree that we shouldn't begin to plan for life after Southgate.
@@ktkee7161 If I had to come up with a name on the spot though I would say we should try to persuade Steve Cooper. But again, this is something which needs real planning, not just name drops.
@@ktkee7161 a wheely bin would be a better replacement , who's gonna replace him, really ?
I'm Welsh but don't hate England. Would like any British team to do well, but don't actively cheer them on. However, it annoyed me all the praise Southgate received for such an easy run to the WC and Euro finals (yet still managed to mess up against Croatia). I know you can only play who's in front of you, but he was given all the tools to succeed yet failed.
You’re rare Steven. Thank you :)
Didn’t beat a single good team
@@wavell14 Exactly.Compared to the group England had in 2014 the 2018 group was a joke.
Wales has the closest thing to a world class player in Britain in Bale. Unlike Kane he has produced big moments in finals.
I love that beginning I'm Welsh but I don't hate England!! 😂😂😂 That cracked me up. The times we are living in. On a serious note, I have always loved to see the home Nations in tournaments and always support and wish them well. But I honestly believe England are going to be absolutely dire in the World Cup!! It's like a slow mo train wreck down the line with Southgate. 🏴❤️🏴.
I’ve constantly said England have got lucky in euros and wc, combination of favourable fixtures and top talent, he conned the nation. Now teams have understood we are nothing really, and as a collective know nothing. Somehow English players don’t understand the game the same as other nations, we believe ability trumps understanding
English players have no killer instinct or desire. They are overpaid flops. Something needs to change at the grass roots level.
England have got lucky with the draw, anything else they are mediocre
Didn’t beat a single good team in either run
Lost 3 games in 2018.
England weren't lucky. Luck doesn't exist 😂 we won because we deserved it, and we lost when we deserved it. Southgates football holds England back, we are a good team with a weak man as a leader.
As a Belgian who has watched one of the best Belgian generations play ball and seen them not winning a cup because of (imo) the managers we had, really let's me understand how you feel. The best advice is indeed to get a proven manager and let him use your best generation. If they still don't win it, at least you aren't going to be in the situation where you would ask yourself 'what if?'....
Since 2018 England and Belgium were loaded with great talents but won nothing because of the clueless managers, Southgate and Martinez.
@@fahedal-ajmi4015 credit to Martinez for beating Brazil somehow though
@@Duck-mw7sf Martinez always managed to beat the first big team they encounter, but after that it seems like he doesn't have it figured out or prepared for the next one....
@@Noahdecamps watched the Italy and France games, the players get everything right, but something never clicks and it feels like time starts going by so fast and suddenly they just lose
@@Duck-mw7sf yeah, indeed, I don't know why, but a better manager can certainly help
Saw the similarity between Southgate and Solskjaer. Both reach 2nd position due to luck. United in 20/21 was lucky because other top 6 team, exclude City, bottled their chance. Even City lost 6 times that season. England reach final, was also very lucky. Qualify the group With 2 win + 1 draw and 2 goals + 0 conceded against Croatia, Czech & Scotland (read: not top team). Then meet Germany who's passed their prime and on their downfall (2-0), Ukraine (4-0) and Denmark (2-1,ExTime), then lost in final with Italy on Pen Shoot out. Statistically, look fine. But watching the actual match will tell you everything. Like United, England vs team with good center midfield will dominated. Shown when they face Denmark, Croatia, Czech & Italy. Harry Kane mostly save England from certain defeat with his great pass & goals, definitely not because Southgate tactic. And witness all of that, FA reward him with extended 4 years contract. And what happen next ? ... similar to Solskjaer, in the next competition, they're exposed when the lady of luck not on their side anymore.
Southgate is another ole I was thinking it earlier pundits call semi finals and finals success lost both . Ole got united to second in the league fa cup semi final and europa league final they lost both games just like England lost we could say olé is better then Southgate because ole won a title in Norway Southgate has nothing
Luck or very unfortunate or poor performances?
It’s the players at the end of the day to actually p the ball in the net and defense as a unit.
They do the dirty work, the manager just stands still watching on the sidelines.
So, how is it luck? Are you assuming that if it were a caretaker instead of ole, the results would be the same?
Due to luck is bollocks? Ole got there due to being awarded like 20+ pens until Klopp complained & only had 2 since Klopp’s complaint
@@TooMuchFlashing facts we should have had more but only 5 penalties in the premier league 2 have been missed by poono penandes
@@footballhighlights6673 you should’ve had more tbf but its the same scenario one Semi & Final is an illusion just like United 2nd place finish
As a German I am incredibly happy that we brought in Flick (hopefully) in time.
You can have as much talent as you want in an international squad. If you don't have a coach, who knows how to get them together as a team and play their best in the short amount of time that you get with friendlies and qualifiers, you do not stand a chance at an international tournament.
It just reeks of Ole at Manchester Utd. All his media mates don’t want him sacked because he’s a nice guy and they don’t want to fall out with him. So they’re gaslighting us into believing that it’s a good thing and that Southgate is a brilliant manager
So funny that we (Ireland) have a more qualified manager and play better football than England despite you having one of the best pools of players of any country in the world 😂
We have a spoofer manager who lost to Armenia recently. Don’t be getting carried away with yourself. Scotland and Ukraine wrecked after qualifier last week.
after watching our game today no way england can be worse right?😂
Ireland play better football than England? Based on two games?
@@biz2055 Yeah mate was thinking that 🤣 Irish getting a bit too big for their boots they'll be back to losing ways after a few more 🤣
@@Patrick-sh9tt a 'spoofer' manager tryng to undo decades worth of damage by the FAI and set us up for the future. In a better spot now than when he took over, regardless of the results in between. Give it time.......
I cannot believe, considering England's amazing football heritage, how much of a non-presence they are in international football.
I feel like the English FA hate england fans because of all the shit english dinosauric,clueless and tactiacally inept managers they keep hiring
Football heritage?????
@@ivormoto6136 created the game tbf
The pressure is too much.
@@ivormoto6136 Yep the country which made the game. The UK all round tbf
I'm 61, I've seen a lot of highs and lows with England - this current era reminds me of the 70s when we had a huge amount of talented and maverick players and a succession of old fashioned managers who didn't know how to play them. As a consequence we failed to qualify for two world cups. I'm seeing the same pattern now. As far as I'm concerned Southgate should have been booted after that ludicrous penalty taker selection in the Euro final. I don't think another manager at the tournament would have made choices like that. I have no idea what his motives were, only he knows. I can see the fear factor running through the team now, the same thing that hampered the golden generation. The shackles are on and creativity suppressed. Southgate needs to go, we need a manager with progressives ideas and a grasp of the modern game and somebody not afraid to start creative talent like Grealish and to give them a simple instruction 'express yourself, and enjoy it.'
Spot on
Imagine a proper manager, just look at spurs and what conte did, spurs were a dead team they had been manged by mourinho and nuno for a year and a half and had all the passion and creativity sapped out of them, kane wanted to leave as well, they weren't in the champions league they were 20th in the distance covered in games, they could barely score or keep clean sheets. Then conte comes in, whips them into shape, turns them 1st in distance covered, spurs scored 1st in amount of goal since January more than man city and Liverpool and they got 4th, a proper manager could do wonders with this sqaud
Grealish is more impactful as a substitute. That's been clear since the Euros. Just look at results when he starts vs when he comes on as a sub. He completely changes games when opposition legs are tired. When he starts though, he's not very effective. He's a Super Sub. And a brilliant one. Nothing wrong with that!
What highs
Yeh so much like the 70s making a semi and a final of major tournaments. England fans don’t deserve a trophy.
I’m so glad to see that people are FINALLY wanting this fraud OUT. The fact people close to me tried to convince me he was ever a good coach is laughable.
The problem is not just Southgate, the problem is that England gets somebody even worse instead. Wait for Steve Bruce to be appointed. Arsene Wenger? smh
As long as he keeps ramming non football rheortiric and takes the knee with passion his job is safe.
@@dogsbollox4335 I think he will finish his tenure after the World Cup regardless of the result (unless it's final). To be fair, international management market is pretty awful at the moment, the only semi-viable alternative is Potter right now, but even he is going to be a pushover for celebrities in the team. Arsene Wenger as an England manager? Look, it might sound promising but it will end up Sven-Goran Eriksson's way, no doubt about it.
A Shit coach has the second best record of any England manger EVER after Sir Alf Ramsey. 56 years of failure and somehow you think it’s Englands divine right to do well. England is an average football nation accept it. We are no Italy, Germany, France or Spain. We’re a glorified Denmark & Sweden. No wonder the world hates us
A lad in our work who's Hungarian was laughing his head off phoning all his mates🤣
@Rishi This no but he has one of these rectangular things called a phone and get this he can call people on it.
A result like that has been coming for a long time. Even if they results are mostly okay the quality of football has been awful.
Southgate is the English Ole. He is inept and has been found out despite all that talent. No club in England can give him a job.
It's frustrating because I saw right through Southgate right from the get go. Yes we had a fantastic run and everybody was completely washed up in all the excitement - chanting sweet Caroline as we made it to the semi finals.
But if you actually pulled yourself away and analysed any of those games, we were dreadful. There should be no pride in the way we performed over the past couple of tournaments.
When it really came down to it as well, you could really tell Southgate was out of his depth. Playing tired legs for the full 120 minutes and then putting on 18 year old youngsters who haven't had a chance to warm up yet to take probably the most important penalty kicks we've had in the last half a century.
You'd have to be blind to blame 1. The players and 2. To think Southgate is the man to lead us to victory.
Like you said, both games have been incredibly winnable. In fact we absolutely should have won them. They were as close to guarantees as you could probably get, yet he bottled it.
Everybody jumped on Ole's back for the lack of substitutions and tactical changes in the europa final. Yet Southgate has been lauded for doing the exact same thing.
That's not saying ole is good, it just shows you how well backed Southgate is in the places it truly matters.
As you keep saying, I fear it's a golden generation wasted.
We could have been looking at a world Cup final and euro silverware coming into this Qatar world Cup.
Instead it's a 4-0 defeat to Hungary.
He called sweet Caroline “a banger”. It was then…I knew….😔
Wokegate got the luckiest draws ever. Look at what happens when he has 3 difficult teams to play against. Rock bottom. 1 goal from 4 games from a lucky penalty.
He is beyond clueless on and off the pitch. The man is a national embarrassment and a charlatan.
We got washed up in all the excitement due to the fact Southgate had created it. If you want him out now fair enough but dont discredit what he done for us over the last 6 years. Which by the way is more than any manager had done in the previous 60.
100% agree, and did at the time too. Particularly as he had 40 years since his own penalty miss cost us. It's obvious he should have had experienced players take the pens, or at least confident players who had touched the ball. I hate his woke BS too. Brits are not racist.
I remember Jose mourinho once saying
" I analyze football a lot and to be a manager. Not even a good manager. Just the basic rules to be a coach I think you need 3 elements
Understanding of the game through your formation and your football education
Understanding of your team's qualities and abilities to use the qualities in a way that will disguise the flaws
And the 3rd part is your talent. It's in your blood. Managerial has to be a talent in your DNA otherwise you can be in the greatest art school in the world if you know nothing about art you will fail"
Southgate has those 3 categories backwards
No understanding of the game
Playing defensive football badly because his squad is actually full of quality in front and awful behind so he uses the flaws to hide the qualities
And he just wasn't meant to be a talented manager
could not agree more mate. well said as well
Hot take but Jose could be an amazing replacement especially for tournament football
@@theoroberts3866 I totally agree. I think jose would win a world cup or a euros with ease. That's his type of competition
He failed against Italy . He was 1-0 up against Italy in final with an offense that was vastly superior . Why would that change in World Cup
And it's not like Italy were insanely good either. The rest were just too poor. Germany were still struggling because of Joachim Löw and France had the same problem with Deschamps that England have now with Southgate, but all those teams that are actually better than England had worse luck with their draws instead of having Ukraine and Denmark and didn’t play the tournament at home like England either.
We keep the boot on Italy and keep attacking, we win.
But no, let’s go sit back and defend for 90 mins
Imagine sitting back and defending for 88 minutes against a 35 year old centre back pairing and bang average wing backs whilst you boast some of the most explosive wingers on the planet and a world class striker. Absolute fucking clown I am glad Fraudgate is finally getting exposed.
@@joshdawson5850 On top of that let's subbed on 2 players who could've impacted the match in the 120mins but he didnt used them and subbed them on just to take penalties and its not like their specialist penalty takers.
@@ChrisPBacon-lu6wd Italy had a decidedly better GK, defence and midfield.
been looking forward to this vid in a long time
I laughed out loud when at 3 nil down he brought on Maguire...who then as usual got caught in no man's land for the 4th goal 🤡😤
They had to bring on a CB because Stones was sent off. But maybe you think it should have been a different CB, I wouldn't argue with that lol
@@vogarner it was 3-0 and Maguire isn't good. Not a worthy sub
@@animelytical8354 that's what I said lol
How the hell can you watch what happens when Maguire doesn't start and still pretend its all his fault? Its literally just hate at this point, its gone beyond just criticism. We don't start him and we ship 4, Stones has his worst ever game in an England shirt even without the card and our defence is a shambles. Stick to the memes you get all your football knowledge from
@@animelytical8354 how can you watch tonight and not come away seeing how important he is to our defence?
You were right Rory🤦🏾♂️ Shocking stuff
Was waiting for this one :D
Ive been southgate out from the get go but i wanted him out in 2018 WC when he had the easiest route anyone has ever seen to a final and still flopped. The guy is clueless mug who isnt even championship level.
0 goals in 6 hours from open play 😂😭
We have no attacking talent. No players with creativity.
@@imouto4hire well we do its just Southgate doesn't know how to use it. I can't believe I just saw that
Harry jane dissapearing once again when not surrounded by world class non english talent
I've been scratching my head for 6 years how he even got the job in the first place, he has nothing on his CV that suggests he is qualified for one of the biggest jobs in world football. Just an FA yes man who has the right politics.
I think he was doing something with the u21's squad then big sam got sacked and he was just given the job without an interview but agree hes crap and wouldnt even get a job at a premier league team
Ehm, "biggest job in world football" ???? Sorry, but just because you pay your managers the highest salary doesn't make the job big. Imagine you got the Brazil job, the German, French, Spanish or even Dutch job with nations reasonably expecting and demanding you actually win these tournaments! 😁 That's pressure! Those are big jobs. English or US or Greece or Austria manager isn't. 😉 😁
It’s not one of the biggest jobs in world football, Englands record and history in world football proves as much.
Name one team in the premier league who’d sack their manager and hire Southgate. I’ll wait.
@@beauneo Manchester United (or more precisely: the Glazers)! 😀 I mean, they fired Mourinho and got OGS for three years! And you can't tell me that Southgate is worse (or better) than OGS. 😁
I think Pochettino is looking for a new gig… 👀
When you watch England play out from the back you see the midfield players move further away from the ball, not closer to it. How many times have you seen an England player with his arms out because know one is showing for the ball? Working hard off the ball isn't just about running onto through balls, i Its also about creating angles to receive passes. Its especially important for the number 6 have these qualitys. England have no short game because they're not technically good enough. Sure they can play sideways and backwards, and play short when there's no pressure around them, but when have you seen them play that fast incisive short triangles? To me England still play long, but they're long passes now, not long punts up to a big number 10.
Imagine if we had a klopp, the squad is so clearly being held back by poor coaching
I get that it’s hypothetical, but there’s a reason Klopp coaches for club football and not country. Country managers are typically B tier to begin with. With that being said, there are at least 200 managers that are better than SouthGate for the job. Doesn’t have to be pep or Klopp
@@mrjoeyd91 I’d rather dyche
@@mrjoeyd91 Southgate wouldn't get in charge of a league 1 team, it's astonishing how unattractive the England job is to hold decent managers I.e. Premier league level
@@mrjoeyd91 Germany just got champions league winning coach
@@lawrencebaker1811 international football is different tbf hence why capello & revie were some of england’s biggest failures despite being the best names on paper
Graham Potter should be given this England team
As a Northern Ireland fan I don't have much invested in this England team, but I really couldn't agree more with everything Rory said. Southgate is a poison 🤦
Matt Lawton was insisting on a round table with Southgate and Steve Holland after the Euro final so that he could be held responsible and answer questions about how we lost at the time though...
I think Southgate is absolutely shocking and how he is England manager with the abundance of riches they currently have is mind blowing. However, the premier league players in ever country are showing the fatigue of a very long season
So are every other country's players. It's a non-excuse that
He is a political ideologue... has nothing to do with football at all...
The results in tournaments haven't justified Southgate being sacked despite the favourable draw. The FA like him so I really don't think he'll be sacked before the World Cup where I think we could get humiliated depending on who we come up against.
Scoring 1 goal in 4 games with the attacking players available to him is a good enough reason to leave
😂 as an Italian I think it’s hilarious seeing you guys meltdown. Yes I know we’re also shit but god damn
Until england win a tournament, italy will always be better than them
As an Englishman I think it's hilarious you bottled a world cup spot to North Macedonia 😂😂😂
@@j_james_01 which makes england a shit team for losing to a team who lost to north macedonia
belgium and spain may be mediocre as well but england was the biggest flop because they took the lead against italy and had every match at home aside from one. the tournament was designed for them to win but they still bottled it
@@yoshiwoollyworld you are talking out your arse mate, France euro 2016 at home, lost to Portugal 1-0 🤣 anti English agenda at its finest
@@j_james_01 every game at euro 2016 was in france. big difference compared to 2020.
A 4-0 defeat to Hungary, a total embarrassment. Southgate has got to go, whether it's before or after the World Cup, preferably before the World Cup so we can actually do something in Qatar, he has got to go, this is a talented bunch of England players, one of the most talented we've ever seen and they're being absolutely wasted under a manager like Southgate. Whoever the next manager is I hope they get this current crop of English players playing better football and will do a better job than what Southgate is doing at least. One of the worst international breaks from England I've ever seen. Southgate Out ASAP. 😡😡😡😡
It’s too early to do it now and also too risky. This is a setback no doubt but he’s earned the right to have another shot at a tournament. But if we don’t get to the final then sure he has to go. Quite concerning tho that the only candidate is the manager of Brighton Hove lol what happens if he turns us down we’re screwed
@@oracle8589 we still have 2 games yk, maybe it isn't too early, you never know
Listen, Man United might not thank me but get the contract out, put it on the table. Let him sign it, let him write whatever numbers he wants to put on there, given what he's done since he's come in. TEN HAG'S (Ole 4.0) at the wheel, man. He's doing it. He's doing his thing. MAN UNITED ARE BACK!!!
@@neilpa 😂😂😂
@@Ohboze you never know mate. 👍🏻
I’m so happy this is happening
Because talk sport keep making excuses for England it’s ridiculous how does England have such a squad and get embarrassed by hungary regardless of the excuse as England are tired or this is friendlies to them you cannot lose with that squad against hungary
Seeing Jason Cundy on sports talk defending southgate was hilarious. Keeps mentioning the euros, southgate can ride that euros final for another decade
My mind was made up when we couldn’t beat Croatia in that World Cup semi, our performance was so defensive it was painful. Sadly nothing has changed.
no one but france could have defeat us back then tho
Shouldn’t put slabhead in defence 🤬🤬🤬
Maddison skips into this team btw. Does it for a laugh under a competent manager!
Ain’t no way
@@jtw9979 aint no way what?????
@@henrygreene1821 Maddison starts
He’s not better than Grealish, Foden or Mount
@@NovaDaGoat 🤣🤣🤣man said Mount after watching those FOUR games we all just watched. Congrats Stevie Wonder!
This was the game that changed my mind. I genuinely wish him well and don't want him to receive any abuse, but I don't think there's any coming back from this.
Lol, did you watch final against Italy?
@@TheTobyjamesdawson if Italy didn’t score that one goal and yous ended up winning 1-0 you’d all be calling it a masterclass and Southgate would be a national hero, if only
@@Duck-mw7sf Irrelevant, instead he bottled the in game management of that final whilst an actual coach made tactical changes. His football is as boring as his personality.
he deserves abuse, stop being a fanny
maybe if you kneel less and run more
SOUTHGATE was awarded SPORTS Personality of the Year for Losing the Final, rewarding mediocrity, it's all about PASSION & DESIRE over tactical competence.
I've never felt so indifferent to an England team in all my life
To know whether Southgate needs to leave all you have to do is imagine what this group of players would achieve with Pep, Conte, Klopp or Tuchel. Also, Poch is free? Food for thought…
One of those 4 would walk into a wc
Appointing an Argentine with our history wouldn't go down well.
@@Jim-so3zm Nobody cares apart from the daily mail
@@Jim-so3zm that's in the past. A terrible Argentine leader tried to regain his people's trust by sacrificing young men in a pointless war. We defended the islands and lost many innocent men too.
The only hate should be towards those at the top who started a pointless war
In modern football no serious club manager will sign for a national team… that’s what it is really, players don’t seem to be too motivated either…
Rory, I very much respect the fact you have been calling this fraud of a manager out before it now will become almost a viral trend. You have a way with words, which makes me feel the raw emotion and you could make me believe that Bacary Sagan was world class you’re that persuasive. From the first things I heard you talking about Southgate, my opinion has always been made from then.
Everybody who is talking about Southgate reaching Final and Semifinals including that clown Carragher should remember that Once Solskjaer finished Second in Premier League.
You have to look at all the factors when a team who is not doing enough on the pitch are reaching Finals and Semifinals.
i think gareth has done incredible things bringing this country forward but we have to remember in international football it’s not the management team that builds the team unlike club football, you are given the players that the country produces and right now he’s been given world class players and it’s become apparent that he doesn’t have the toolset to be able to bring the best out of these players. it was fine when the team was limited but we’ve outgrown gareth. graeme potter with this squad would be sensational
Wahey, finally somebody isn’t pretending like they wanted Southgate to be sacked the night before the Euros final, a competition that we were taken to penalties on the last match of the competition.
I’m not saying Southgate is the answer, but I’m not pretending like I didn’t enjoy the f*** out of that tournament. And I’m certainly not someone like Rory Jennings who gets an audience by consistently negative takes … predicting that a player, manager or club fails to meet their expectations is the shooting monkeys in a barrel of punditry .. the overwhelming majority do not live up to the promise, and even if a player/manager/club DOES meet expectation, all you have to do is hold the fort for a few months for them to fail and you can claim you were always right (like this entire comments section, for example). How about we see Rory make a positive prediction and get that right for once?
@@miniman2132 i’m not gonna lie i’ve never been gareth’s biggest fan and i feel his lack of attacking intent has cost us in both the semis and final, however his approach is the reason we got there in the first place and even had a chance, gotta give credit where credits due
There was a moment in that game which epitomises Southgate. Southgate, in the 83rd minute, 3-0 down decides to take off Saka and bring on Harry Maguire... He takes off a striker and brings on the centre half own goal machine, what in the fucking world is he doing, how can he think that's a good idea when he has a player like Grealish sat on the bench...
My man went for damage control against Hungary and still conceded another…
Yep, I laughed at the exact moment and thought what is this clown doing?
Securing the 3 nil loss
Then Maguire did his usual and was caught in no man's land for the 4th while half jogging back.
and letting walker who's been on all game sprint back on his own🤡😤
... it maybe - on a psychological level - made it easier for all the English ManUnited fans to cope with the result. They are so used to it ... 🤣
Out of his depth. Been saying it, he's the English Ole and I have no idea how he's been given the job in the first place.
@@huzzy1968 😂😂😂 it’s fucking funny at that stage Ennit. I ent seen a shit show like it for a while and I’m a Villa fan 😂
Fa won’t get rid of him. They will assume the last two tournaments will be followed up with Qatar.
Wrongly so but this is the English F.A they won’t get rid of for nations league or friendlies
Brilliant video Rory…I sincerely feel your pain. It’s heartbreaking.
We got slapped by Hungary twice, scraped a draw vs Germany and drew 0-0 to Italy’s under 12s
We were so bad today it was actually funny
Sacking him now i dont think will make much of a difference anyway
the next international games we play b4 the world cup is in september and i dont think thats enough time for a new manager to instil their philosophy into the squad
Oh well,theres always 2026 i guess
i love laughing at England, thanks England and Southgate for making my day
Get a life
as much as I agree , you are missing the point , who wants to see this abject failure, not any fan of this country imo, unless you are a foreign c$$t
I can't imagine Southgate holding a dressing room at all. He comes across as an area manager that pops in now and then and brings the mood to the ground
Southgate has proven he can't get past the best teams in the world, with multiple champions league winners. We've never had so many players from the best teams in the world. Calmer than having tabloids squealing all't time, but never getting anywhere. We never beat anyone good.
This reminds me of Adam mid season talking about Ole after the first Liverpool game. Adam said "Whatever he's done that's positive for the club is done now." I think that is true now (and perhaps has been true for Southgate for some time). To be fair, he has done a good job of giving England fans memories and getting most of the fans back onside, but correctly (Rory) his lack of management skill in the actual game has and continues to catch up with him. England fans, who do you think should be next? I think Mourinho might actually be good for England although I doubt either party would want it.
England have been good based on pure talent. Southgate owes the young player development in the country moreso than the country owes him anything.
Graham Potter
What can Southgate learn from a 4 nil home defeat to Hungary?! There's absolutely nothing to take from whatever the hell that was!
I’ve said it in the comments of other videos of Rory’s, and I’ll say it again today: Italy (my team) beat England in the Euros finals solely on the fact that we had an elite, proven manager. Our crop of players, whilst very talented, had no business competing with England’s squad. The total transfer value of England’s squad dwarfs ours, but for some reason the FA is always apprehensive to hire world-class management. Think what could be achieved with a proper UCL-level club manager.
Ultimately, keeping Southgate (or even replacing him with another equivalent-level manager) will always keep England from winning trophies. In 20 years time, people will ask the same “what could have been?” questions about this squad, like the early-2000s team. The only difference is that people will be questioning the poor management, rather than the rivalry of the players.
You should have seen how Talksport were shutting down callers who were criticising Southgate and asking for him to resign!That's the root of the problem, free speech and opinion only when it lines up with the party line bollocks!
I've seen the odds for the next England manager and honestly Pochettino completely slipped my mind, he would be absolutely perfect to lead England into the WC
He is Argentine tho, so unless he wants to be dissowned by his country that's not happening
@@slickgamerhd1219 Capello was Italian and Sven was Swedish so your point is kind of irrelevant 😂
@@bluecow29 we didn't exactly have a war with those country's in recent memory?
@@slickgamerhd1219 same way Argentinian managers manage English clubs, not sure people care
As someone who is not from England, I never understood the backing for Southgate from the beginning. The football he let’s playing is awful and boring af. And now the results also caught up to this kind of playing football. So 100% agree with u…
Completely agree Rory! - Been saying this for years! When did coming 4th and 2nd become an achievement? We have some of the best attackers in the world but choose to play defensively, makes no sense that he still gets praise.
Also we lost a final to a Italy side that failed to qualify for the WC 6months later against North Macedonia…
Southgate walking away from the job, would be as honest as Lampard promising he would never ever pretend to be a manager ever again. Neither is gonna happen.
Watched the New Zealand game and England game at the same time. NZ had passion, played well, attacked and kept up the pressure, they were entertaining and deserved the win, even after going down to 10 they were still the better side. England were so rubbish that I had gotten to the point of laughing my disappointment, we were awful with 11 let alone 10.
We should know our team, get the starters playing together, play on the attack utilising our attacking strength and play with passion. Not that.
We (NZ) got robbed in that game. Honestly the worst reffing I've ever seen.
Yeah we should definitely aspire to be New Zealand. Fackin hell 😂
@@ktkee7161 Good point, at least they're not woke and boring! They play as a team and have heart
English players have no passion or killer instinct. They only care about the money. The mentality is rotten.
@@imouto4hire I think they just don't care about the Nations League, people saying they are tired completely forget that most nations players would have just finished their seasons you can't use that excuse.
Major part of elite management is in-game problem solving ability, of which Southgate exhibits NONE. Never learns from his mistakes. Absolutely nobody playing between the lines but insists on a double pivot with Jude sitting. Astoundingly poor tactics. Could easily have kept the double pivot with 4 up front when we needed a goal.
International football is rarely where the elite managers go. Worse money and worse quality football
He's not got a plan B in him.
Plays his favourites despite form and hopes for the best.
It always makes me laugh how the media gives a free pass to a friend. If it was any other manager playing the way we do and losing this badly they’d be asking for his head.
We (Italians) are in the same situation: we have Mancini who does not want to leave Italy's bench despite humiliations against Germany, Argentina and dulcis in fundo North Macedonia.
Now u know how Manchester United fan feels like
Manchester United don't have the same quality as England's talent pool, with a few exceptions such as De Gea, Ronaldo, Sancho.
Tonight shows what an organised team does to an unorganised team, when will English football learn that football isn't just about having talented players? For decades we've been getting schooled by less talented teams that work together and look after the ball.
Or maybe English players are not as talented as the media makes them out to be.
@@imouto4hire they play at a much higher level than the Hungary players
Love seeing this emotion. Shows that you really care about your national team. I have the same feelings about the Swedish manager so I understand how you feel
Sweden need to go away from 4-4-2 it’s outdated
Maguire saying "you wont finish 2nd in the WC and finalists in the Euros without playing well" absolutely infuriates me. It is the same Maguire who was defended by Ole. He is an absolute prat. Gareth is another yes man and it will eventually be found out.
spot on Rory, shame the media are so blinded by him
is anyone noticing, that as soon it's a tough group all the results have dried up?
The similarity with Manchester United is that the coach is a buffer with mates in the media who are pundits that are ex-players who will never criticise him or his team's performance!
Only the fans will get him sacked and the sooner the better before something worse happens!
a kicking like this has been long overdue
Southgate is the albatross on the neck of the England team. England are the most talented nation in the world. That Euro final was a certain win looking at talent on the pitch. And England should have been challenging or even winning that last World Cup too.
Problem is, everything England do is despite the managing and coaching instead of because of it. The praise Southgate gets is beyond unwarranted. As a member of the FA, sure. Some sort of spokesperson.
He's a handicap.
We had Ole, very similar to Southgate for England fans. With so much media and PR backing, fans are starting to see how AWFUL the manager and his tactics are, the number of OBVIOUS favourites the manager has, the lucky route to finals and semi-finals and the non-identity on the football pitch. England fans unfortunately are going through a similar type of pain that United fans underwent with OGS.
I don't often but ..TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!!
As a United fan, I can tell you that the parallels between Southgate & Solskjaer are scarily alike. The only difference is Solskjaer had nowhere to hide in the end since United played 2 games a week. This fraud is going to survive because the fans’ outrage will die down by the next time England plays. The only way I see him ever getting sacked is losing all 3 games in the WC group stage.
😳never thought of it that way
what if he as a win and draw but still goes out in wc group stage?
If Southgate had any integrity he should have quitted on the spot a 4-0 thumping to hungry and our worst home peformance in 100 years this has been an eye opener here he’s not good enough we need another manager for the World Cup or else we will go out in the group stages
Styles wasn't goodnr enough for England Team played for Hungary and beat England twice that is amazing
Spot on
Spot on.
Southgate was lucky with the World Cup draw in 2018, played 2 decent sides and lost to them both. One of them twice.
We then went into the Nations League finals in 2019 and got humbled 3-1 by Netherlands and limped to a penalty win vs Switzerland after a 0-0 draw.
We battered a weak Euro 2020 qualifying group and did the bare minimum by getting through the group in scoring 2 goals. The Germany one was a good win granted, but playing at Wembley we'd expect to win, same in the semi final. The final we blew it 1-0 up and we just sat back and let an average Italy side take it away from us.
He should of walked after that and allowed a more progressive coach take over from him (Potter or Howe), but I truly believe Southgate has brought into his own hype with his constant 'social education' to those who voice different opinions to his own. Arrogant and the establishment media refuse to criticise him but instead choose to attack the fans
Southgate out
Spot on mate. He wont be gone till after WC tho unfortunately.
At this rate we will finish Bottom of the WC group in Quatr , We should get in Potter , Poch Or Beilsa in ASAP freshen it up Southgate is DONE OUT HERE!
He is clearly out of his depth!! Proven in a terrible decision in the Euro final to play for Pens and let 2 of the youngest players in the squad take the most important kicks of a ball since 66. He should of walked after that dismal display imo. He has taken us as far as he can
Love you Rory, you are fantastic and I love you.
As a wise man once said! ‘Its timeeeee too goooo!’ #RIP. All seriousness though who would we bring in as a replacement?
I remember early on in Southgate's reign where he did some interesting stuff with Sterling dropping deep in midfield - since then though he's ran out of ideas as was seen against Croatia in the last World Cup - the team should be built around fast possession football with players like bellingham, rice, foden in the middle, I know guardiola has converted Sterling into a forward for City but a more progressive Southgate would give Sterling a free role to suck in opposition players in the middle of the park and create real space for direct players such as Grealish and Saka to operate - not this 5 3 2 stuff that puts all the focus on CB's and DM's that do not control any sort of tempo whatsoever...
Master Southgate. Sets up not to concede. To then concede 3. To bring on Harry Maguire, to then concede again. Master Southgate.
I’ve always said that we play like West Brom with Southgate in charge. Way too defensive for the attacking crop of players that we have. In the World Cup 8 of our 11 goals came from set plays. it’s no wonder that now we haven’t scored from open play in 6 hours or so, Southgate out, Eddie Howe in
Be honest here, when was the last time you've enjoyed an England game. We were so negative in the euros .I live in Denmark where they have a team who enjoy playing football .
I hope chelsea scouts watched that Hungarian number 6 defender, I really liked him. Very calm on the ball and great awareness. He is the kind of players we need at Chelsea to avoid liability defenders that we always buy. I also hope some of you watched today or will watch him.
Spot on Rory!!
The romance of the euros and that summer has swooned so many. Southgate charming and presentable, but tactically incapable of optimising the squad. His persona was valued more than his ability by the FA. Who should have the job as manager for England ?
It's interesting and probably irrelevant but the English cricket team really went for it these last 2 test matches and even tho they are the same bunch who lost 16/17 previous test matches, in other words, mediocre, with a positive mindset and courage and trust they pulled off 2 wins. What's the point? A new coach.
He subbed off all the players who played the best today, the one time he actually made any subs at reasonable time in a match and he made all the wrong subs
Fully agree mate without everything u mention, hit the nail on the head with everything u said
Agree with u rory its so inline with the film ford vs ferrari