Shameless worst attempt at replacing Mickey
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I'm offended how much they underestimated our love for Mickey to the point they thought they could replace him
Luckily we’re smart.
I'll join asap
@@augustusbush647 ok
LMFAOOO FR FR 😭😭
We literally bullied the writers into bringing Mickey back
Honestly the difference was that Mickey was an actual character and Trevor was Ian's love interest
Yes, but Trevor had some really good possibilities for a character
@@livr2783 But they missed it...
PERIOD
THIS
@@livr2783 he did!! If the writers were smart and wrote him in as Ian’s friend.
Question: What is Mickey's last name?
Me: Milkovich 👁️ 👅👁️
Question: What is Trevor's last name?
Me: 👁️ 👄 👁️
LMFAOOO
He is Trevor Trevor
@@ikigai725
Trevor, Ned, Caleb, Kash
That's all we know
Remember when Kash and Ian took the 1st step? Remember when like Ian was the top the whole type but when Ned thought Lip is Ian, he was on him ?
@@notwerkinginthishouse8634 and what happened to kash and his family? Nobody cares. Poor things
😂🤣
Ok I like Trevor he was a good guy but he’s not Mickey let’s be real here
I felt that
Yessss
True dat!🤪
Gallavich Queen btw, I love the click bait HAD ME DIEINN🤣🤣
I don't think Trevor handled Ian being bipolar well either. He was so used to "normal" masking Ian and when Ian was having an episode Trevor didn't respond well imo
I’m a little bit mad that Mickey didn’t meet Monica but Trevor did
... holy shit... wow, I never realized that.
You know they never showed them together but hey they had to have meet right after all Mickey was there alot right who knows I never seen them together
Augustus Bush also they’ve known each other since they were kids
I'm sorry I'm just a big ass fan of Mikey and Ian's it may help me being a fan alot because I'm gay crew and them being lovers in most of the show
Augustus Bush they could have but they didn’t show it so we don’t know if she liked him or not because when Ian was going to run way with her she was talking about Mickey like she hasn’t bet him
Also Trevor was a really bad character because he had no depth. His entire personality was built around being part of the LGBT community... He had absolutely nothing aside from that, and all his friends were the same way. Mickey, even before he came out, had a personality aside from his homophobic and gay aspects... He has always been a person... Trevor was never a person
Trevor’s character started to annoy me really quickly. He never had a personality aside from being gay and transgender. Really, his only purpose was to indirectly educate those watching about LGBT issues. As a lesbian, I’m 100% fine with that. However, the writers used Trevor to ram LGBT stuff down our throats and it was just too much. Unlike Trevor, Mickey’s storylines didn’t always revolve around him being gay as he actually had a backstory. But that’s just my opinion.
Also helping out the homeless
albicn yes!! i totally agree especially that scene where ian is meeting all of trevors friends and all of trevors friends had very diverse involvement in the LGBTQIA+ community and when ian would mess up on say a sexuality or a gender preference trevor would get all offended by it! ian was learning all of it at once and that is a lot for him, trevor needed to give him a break!! i’ve been learning all of them for years now and i still don’t know some of them, i just felt that trevor was putting a lot on ian at once.. (it was cool to see all the involvement of the community tho it did teach me more about LGBTQIA+)
Exactly
albicn this is PERFECTLY STATED like this is exactly what i was trying to tell my friend (as also a lesbian) it was okay initially, educational which i think many watchers of the show that are not lgbtqa+ needed, but then it became wayyyyy too much his characters entire identity and personality had no advancements and his character just wasn’t that likeable he seemed to have no emotional connection to ian and cared about everything more than him
Trevor: please respect me as a person and my body
Trevor: fat guys are only good for emotional validation.
Didn’t Trevor also pressure Ian into bottoming?
@@natalieheelein7727 Eh, they were both a top. I think they just went back and forth for whoa would be top
@@natalieheelein7727 he did in low key manipulative way they couod have gone about it better he said he needed to be sex positive as if his refusal to be a Bottom was some form of taboo and wrong doing
After the Monica scene seeing this solidified my dislike of him as a chatcter
The way he admitted to using "chubs" to gratify his ego assured me my dislike for Trevor was very valid.
Even if they had written Trevor better, he still never would have been an adequate replacement for Mickey. Mickey had a formative role in Ian’s growth, as well as his character arc. He was so important to Ian’s story that cutting him out the way they did left too many loose threads, and the fans were never going to let it go since he was such a beloved character.
Trevor always looked at Ian like he was broken and something to fix. Mickey tried to help Ian make peace with his illness, not think it could just go away. Trevor placed bipolar before Ian. Mickey placed Ian before bipolar.
I suck with words but all I’m going to say is I agree with everything you said lmao
Can't agree more. Mickey was the only person who loved Ian the way he was. Other characters Ian dated never did.
I COULD NOT AGREE MORE ON THAT. Trevor is cool, but just not in the universe where Mickey Milkovich exist.
Exactly.
Mickey got more likeable the more you knew him
Trevor got more annoying the more you knew him
It was to the point of me leaving the room until he was gone and off screen
Whenever TREVOR was on screen not Mickey.
@@axelotle7730 I skipped the whole season where he was always around Ian instead of Mickey lol
So basically that is true but the difference is Trevor getting annoying happened really fast Mickey got likeable in season 4
@@kingfish-sp9oe I liked Mickey since his first scene. He wanted to protect his sister. In the season 2 he is more friendly with Ian and shows that is not as evil as he made apparent when he can't kill Frank. He was only afraid. In the 3 he is not afraid to kiss Ian and is full in love with him. Definitely, Mickey discovers that Ian is the love of his life. And in the 4, he was incredibly tender when he defends Ian of a sexual predator and when he discovered his disease. To me these 2 scenes are more than enough to want Mickey to be endgame.
"It would've broken barriers to have a cis man be with a trans man." It's also barrier breaking to have a gay couple with 2 masc characters. Most gay characters in media lean more towards femme but Ian & Mickey aren't anything like that. Hell this show goes out of its way to show how vastly different they are to the other gay male characters so why ignore that?
But at the end, ian married mickey. PERIODTT!
He did. But can someone answer me this. Did Mickey and Svetlana get a divorce? I honestly don’t remember them mentioning that
Vee Felix I think it’s a very grey area because sveltlana didnt even marry v
They said in season 7 or 8 that their marriage was invalid because Svetlana was married to Ivan.
@ Georgie Georgiev thank you must have missed it. I fast forwarded a lot of those seasons
@@veefelix8183 No problem. I also did the same thing 6,8 seasons were meh the 7th was ok the whole Trevor thing kind of annoyed me couse you have Ian who is gay and really not into vaginas he tried to have sex with a woman poor guy almost had a heart attack and now i'm supposed to believe that he falls for a guy with a vagina even though we saw that vaginas are gross to him. I mean if Trevor was his friend, they hang out sure that is believable but dating didn't work between them.
mickey will always be the best character and no one can change that 🤭
exactly love him
Agreed
Facts
He's my 4th favorite character
Lmao, Trevor was so insignificant that the writers never gave him a last name.
And never tell a significant other what to do.
Dude, even Byron (the guy who has sex with Mickey during a conflict with Ian) has a last name (Koch).
Waht he tell him to do
I want to say something that people apparently don't agree with: Trevor wasn't even that much of a good person. Trevor made himself feel better and boosted his sense of superiority by sleeping with conventionally less attractive guys, which is absolutely disgusting. He took advantage of Ian's manic episode to promote his own work (which by the way is the one thing about him that I really appreciate). Finally, he didn't care enough, or rather he didn't give a fuck, about Ian being off his meds, and just told him off, left and never came back.
Honestly yeah. Like at least micky can own that he isn’t a good person, but Trevor really doesn’t see how the things he does are not always right. And most of the bad shit that micky does he does for a reason, like sticking up for someone he loves, or out of fear from his very abusive father. Trevor just does them to make himself feel better.
Yeah Trevor was gross and could never replace Mickey! Only cared about himself & his work, not Ian. His treatment of Ian overall was deplorable!
i love how the show tried like 4 different things and then said “fuck it fine i give in here’s mickey”
Me who never watched Shameless: "hmm, yes, i agree"
You should watch it, it’s really good
I wanna watch it but it is age restricted for me
@@caitlynjai08 why does that matter? Just skip the sex scenes and you’re golden
Where i can see it ??
Mickey has the BEST character development on the show. I love him so much
trevor left ian when he saw the true side of bipolar disorder. mickey didn’t leave him. although it took him a bit to learn how to care for ian, he still tried hard. trevor didn’t do that and also pressured ian to do things he didn’t want to do. mickey and ian just simply had more chemistry than trevor
When Ian was going through his hard times with being bipolar ,Mickey was there for him and told him things were gonna be ok but when he was going through hard times again Trevor left him and couldn’t handle it . I fucking love Mickey. I could go on forever ❤️😂
Some comments say that no one hates Trevor because of his personality, but because he was with Ian, but I'm gonna be honest I really hated Trevor. He was a big NO for me, I blocked that guy from my mind until I saw this video and remember him. He was so judgemental and acted like a know it all-always right mom or something. So f annoying.
Mickey Gallavich forever.
You know I agreed with you lol until you said Mickey Galla-.....I cant even say it. Lol
@@GallavichQueen LOL
The writers can never in a million years make us hate Mickey. Never. Mikey has heart. He loves hard. He plays no game. He is a gem.
Micky was the right answer. As a straight dude. I strangely invested in that relationship. The other guy didn’t feel right.
You could never give two people such a strong and full of love storyline, and then just drop it. Ofc Gallavich won. That was true love
"What is Mickeys last name?"
Me- GALLAGHER
shameless is supposed to be a chaotic show it’s good they chose mickey instead of having a “hEalThy StAbLe rElAtIonShIp”
Gallavich is stable, getting healthier by the day and is passionate (thrilling -ian's words). Southside can only truly understand Southside.
I couldn’t explain the boiling seething rage that filled my body when I read that confession.
What do you mean?
Not to mention the writers knowing from the start that in order to try and replace Mickey they needed Mickey to come back to have an official 'end' to Gallavich. Which consisted of Mickey breaking out of prison, Ian never being able to get him out of his head, going with Mickey despite 'moving on with Trevor,' and then left what could've been one of the best storylines for s8 literally at the border with little-to-no reason whatsoever. That didn't make us want to see Trevor, that just made us HATE HIM MORE bc we were reminded how BEAUTIFUL Gallavich is.
i get incredibly pissed thinking about all the opportunities trevor got in ian’s life.... we got to see him meet monica, he actually spoke to fiona a lot on his own, we got to see them more than make out and explore boundaries... all of these things that we never got to see mickey do... genuinely made me very upset because trevor was never someone i saw ian actually getting with for a long period of time. trevor was always more focused on other shit, ian had to chase him and it was incredibly uneventful and their chemistry was horrible... i missed mickey a lot during those seasons not just for their relationship but also because mickey’s comedy and personality is what carried the show a lot of the time when the plot fell through. season 6 is incredibly uninteresting and season 8/9 is really just their last attempt before finally bringing mickey back to make ian interesting, but ended up giving him such an out of character storyline it hurt to watch
if we want to even discuss trevors character, he was actually a huge asshole to ian at first for no fucking reason. he would get pissed at the smallest advances, or if ian didn’t understand something. he pressured ian into things he didn’t want to do. he told him to “get over it” when monica was around which btw i still want to slam his head into the floor thinking about that moment.. he’s pretty much just “ian boyfriend” and that’s it. he has his own life but we aren’t given much about him as a human other than the fact that he sucks... hell, even characters like geneva had more growth than trevor did... the writers took ALL this time to give us lots of mickey characterization and make us love him and then took him away and replaced him with a wet paper towel excuse of a love interest
They showed alot of intimacy in the Caleb relationship too which they didn't show with Mickey, which was sad. But I wonder if that was because Mickey and Ian had storylines away from having sex. Whereas the others never really did.
but when she tried to say ouroboros lmaooooo
Lily quezada it’s such a hard word to say lol
@@GallavichQueen lmaoooo everyone at school do be calling me quesadilla smh
Lily quezada everyone calls me solar system lmao
@@GallavichQueen lmaoooooo
Gallavich Queen: *what is mickey’s last name?*
Me: *milkovich :D*
Gallavich Queen: *now what’s trevor’s last name?*
Me: 👁👄👁 I-
Same Kirby, Same
I remained
I just really disliked his character. Nothing to do with him being with Ian (though that made cringe really hard at how badly they were written together). But Trevor was a real non entity who was only memorable for being trans (nothing else). His character was boring, he was defensive and judgemental, completely one note and never developed at all. And as soon as he told Ian to forgive Monica and grow up I wanted to punch him in the face. I was like "you have no idea what this woman put Ian and his family through...how DARE you tell him he should just grow up and move on" From then on nothing he did would make me like him.
He felt very much a token character added to fill some quota because he was so poorly written that he felt like a last minute rush job. I mean not even a last name?????? Also he had zero on screen chemistry with Ian. Plus he couldn't be a long-haul guy for Ian with how quick he disappeared when Ian had a manic episode and went off his meds. Mickey stayed with Ian durint the first manic/depression cycle he witnessed. Did all he could to look after him. Didn't blame him for what he did whilst manic and was so worried about him. Even got him the help he needed and after a little blip where it overwhelmed him, he still went back to Ian to help and support him.
Its probably because Ian and Mickey have a lot of history and been through so much together. There is no one who could replace Mickey, especially not snooze fest Trevor that just made me want to skip ahead to scenes he wasn't in he was that dull.
And for the record, Ian and Mickey are perfect for each other. Been through so much and grown together as people and as a couple. I am so glad they got married. It was amazing. Such love between them.
Its only with Ian does Mickey let his guard down, its only with Ian can Mickey show his loving/caring/tender side. Its only with Mickey that Ian feels loved and safe. Its only with Mickey does Ian feel worthy of love, that only Mickey can love all parts of him and he loves all parts of Mickey in return.
They know each other inside out. Know each others faults and how to take care of each other. They are each others rocks. The one they can rely on to be there.
Are they perfect? Fuck no. Are they perfect for each other? Fuck yes!!
Bring on Season 11!!!
this was literally beautiful, i agree 110%.
trevor was so boring, there was literally nothing interesting about him, besides his sexuality, i really like how they included a transgender man, however that was definitely all he bought to the table.
i agree completely with what you said about the difference between mickey and trevor's reponse to ian's bipolar disorder - the second things started to get difficult again for ian, and when he started going off his meds, trevor because judgemental, rude, and all round full of himself, he acted as though ian was out of control and always blamed ian for literally everything - like how he treated ian like shit for wanting to help that homeless girl and allowing her to stay at his house, but also when he tried to belittle ian's problems with monica, and get him to forgive her just because she was there and she apologised. mickey never acted that way - bearing in mind, ian stole his child and ran off with him, mickey heard nothing back from ian, yet he worried his ass off and all he cared about was ian's safety and wellbeing, not caring about the fact he was bipolar, but wanting to love him completely, and that is what he did and that is why mickey is superior.
another thing was when he got all synical and judgemental when ian met mickey and almost went to mexico with him - yeah, ian shouldn't have cheated on trevor, and it was quite a crazy thing, but it's ians life, and mickey is the guy who had always been there for him, through thick and thin, how is it ian's fault that he wanted to see the guy who loved him so much?
trevor was also judgemental about mickey, calling him an ex-convict and crazy and whatnot, even though he had no idea what type of person mickey was, nor the connection he and ian had.
i am so happy mick and ian got married at the end lmfao, they deserved it.
They obviously added Trevor for "representation". Guy had nothing else going on for him
notice how trevor left as soon as ian had a mental breakdown 🤨🤨mickey did the exact opposite
Ian’s soulmate is Mickey since day one and Trevor wouldn’t handle ians family
Honestly like he would talk about his “chaotic” family like it was a cute thing when it in fact was not and the shit they had to go through was fucking traumatizing.
that comparison was awesome and they could never have found someone to replace mickey. I mean come on, they’re the ones who made us fall in love with him in the first place.
"she apologised, move on!" that's the moment i hated trevor and never looked back.
"What was Mickey's last name?"
Me: Gallagher
Me: ...
Me: wait
mickey was always ian’s soul mate , yes trevor was a great boyfriend , but mickey was meant for ian as ian was meant for mickey. it just makes sense !
define great💀
if toxic boyfriends are great then he's the GREATEST
girl literally preach
Izzy Senior 🙌🙌🙌
i don't know if y'all also remember when, after monica's death ian was going through a really rough time and he even tells trevor about it but still trevor doesn't do anything at all to help him out
bcuz hes still bitter about Ian getting back with Mickey
No one could ever replace mickey. His character development is the best I’ve ever seen in a show which is why I love his character so much. Loved the video 🥰
wait who hates Trevor, I actually liked him (but not in the endgame with Ian obviously)
awsten i never saw him like that... I would mostly say it was all about his job with the teens. That was his main characteristic. (Still, I love Trevor)
There's nothing to like. He's irrevelant.
I hated him. He was annoying af, in my opinion.
Everyone hated Tampon
I agree with awsten. His whole entire personality (and all his friends') was based on the fact that he was born with a vagina... He had absolutely no depth..
I can't believe they actually tried to replace him lol
I love that this fandom was there to say: umm... where is Mickey? this is bullshit.
I love and appreciate every single person that stayed in the fandom and made sure the writers were aware that that wasn't gonna cut it
I usually hate fandoms because 9/10 times they're super toxic to the characters/actors. But, as someone that got into Shameless (US) a couple of months ago, I want to thank the Gallavich fandom for pressuring the return of Mickey because, WOW, were seasons 6-9 so goddamn hard to get through without him
I’m just glad they bought Mickey back because I wouldn’t have watched past season 7. That’s how important he is.
Nobody would ever compromise and sacrifice how Mickey has for Ian. He never gave up on their love. Literally through thick and thin
I’ve said before something I really enjoyed about Mickey was the fact he wasn’t centered around Ian and had his own storyline with other characters while being a character of his own. I also really like how now that they’re married, it’s not like Mickey is centered around Ian and Ian gets his own story with other people, so far it’s pretty much Mickey is centered around Ian and Ian is centered around Mickey, they HAVE the same storyline and share it together and I’m glad they did it like that
I don’t know, I just could never really like Trevor as a person either, at least not in relation to Ian. He was great for trans rep and had a noble job, but that doesn’t necessarily make you a good person. The way he approached Ian from the jump, pressuring him into a romantic relationship when Ian probably did just need a friend was fucked up imo. “I have enough friends.” It just came off as manipulative to me and Ian is such a people pleaser that he went along. And maybe that’s why I could never get over the feeling of it being forced, both within the narrative (like maybe Ian feeling like he should give this guy a chance) and from a writer’s perspective of using Trevor as a mouthpiece to introduce LGBT issues- which was also forced and awkward imo. Because when Mickey came back into his life Ian jumped at the chance to be with him again, that shows he was just waiting to FEEL that kind of energy. And then going back to Trevor was like him trying to make amends for the shitty way that all went down, but you could tell his heart wasn’t in it. Trevor even mentioned loving Ian and Ian was just... 😶 *crickets*. Also the lack of chemistry between the actors was evident. Maybe it would have been less obvious had Mickey not come back because Cam and Noel have such amazing electric chemistry that blows everyone else out of the water, but he did and as viewers we can’t help but compare.
All in all, Mickey’s character development, chemistry with Ian, lines, acting, all of it completely irreplaceable and for the show to attempt it with two bland No Last Names was just terribly misguided.
The actor who plays Trevor isnt a good actor tho. He did the exact same thing in the Fosters. He was literally the same character and he is just so awkard
This was so insightful! Personally I like Trevor but I feel like hes too,,, perfect- he doesn’t seem real because he doesnt have his own storylines, character development or heck even a last name. He’s destined to be another background character who disappears- whereas Mickey is a part of the shameless neighbourhood and the writers involved him. This means and Ian and Mickey relate on how like messed up their childhoods were a built a wayyy stronger bond than Ian and Trevor could
How is Trevor perfect ?
don't confuse boring with perfect, ever
artistic persona I meant he doesn’t have anything wrong with him- that definition of perfect. Doesn’t make him a perfect character but he has his shit together and there’s no growth which makes him boring.
YES. He just doesn’t fit in with the messy shameless vibe
3 in the morning an I'm here
Mouse Avery me too lol
Same
I just love ur humor so much oh meh goodness
Sometimes I fear no one understand my humor lol. So thank you!
I like Trevor, but no for Ian, I just like how he introduced Ian to more aspect of the LGBTQ+ community. But one thing is clear, forever Gallavich.
By the way I just love the way you express, you are really charismatic
Sorry if I make a mistake, english is not my first language.
HOW U LIKE SAMI?!
BRO WHO ARE YOU?
Lil Prii EXCUSE ME?!????????
Gallavich Queen ion like her man, you don’t remember what she did to ian?!
Gallavich Queen WHEN IAN AND MICKEY CAME TO THE HOUSE, THE NEXT DAY THEY WERE GOING TO GO ON THERE DATE! BUT NOOOOOOO! SAMI HAD TO GO A SHIT ON IT, respect your opinion tho, love yu💖🦋. But NO!
Lil Prii 😢 yes....but she went through so much that I kinda understand why she did it
@@GallavichQueen i would agree, sammi went throuvh a lot of shit in her life and frank tried using her and all that as her introduction, but she had chucky tell the cops it was carls stuff when he got caught with the drugs, got ian arrested, shot frank (deserved but still) pulled a gun out on micky, along with pulling the gun out with debbie, lip, chucky, and carl around her, and was a total ass and tried to take over the Gallagher house like she was ment to be there, saying it was her house when it was never hers or franks, it always been the Gallagher kids' house lol, sammi wasnt absoulte shit. I found her funny sometimes but just...she kinda fucked over a lot of the Gallagher and was kinda annoying!! Though i get if someone would like her, shes kinda ok. Shes ok.
What is Mickey’s last name?
Me: Gallav- Milkovich
What is Trevor’s last name?
Me: Ian? Wait-
I find it very interesting that when people defend or excuse Trevor as a character, it's done in as if defending an actual person, not defending him as a written character in the context of a show like Shameless with its reliance on outlandish archetypes. Statements that kind of just shrug off his literal character flaws. "Trevor is a great guy, but...". I've never seen a character so completely removed from the focus of the criticisms. Just disliking him with Ian as opposed to Mickey does a disservice to how obtusely written into every scene he is. People didn't dislike a boring person, they dislike a boring character being manipulated into an absurdist ensemble that has mever required a foil before. Nobody in this show needs a straight man (so to speak), the audience was never looking for one. Trevor was never needed for levity, and so his normalcy is out of place and bewildering. I get that if an actor leaves, the show must go on, but they could have done better if the writing team wasn't so focused on lashing out at fans. His character comes off as pretentious and preachy because basically his character IS the writers preaching. They're telling us Trevor is elevated above the characters and scenarious he's presented with, and we should love how conventional and healthy he is by comparison to Actually Problematic Character In Hindsight. It's insultingly obvious what the point of this character was. Like, huh? Shameless never had a problem with Problematic before (or since).
Lmao I just noticed I’m a terrible editor. Yeahhhhh......let’s all pretend we didn’t see that
Don't think so
I like your editing
i love your editing, it's pretty unique
The only thing I remember bout Trevor is that he refused to bottom and made Ian, a known top, feel bad enough that he bottomed for him and I always thought that was really manipulative so I disliked him and deleted him from my brain
I don’t know Trevor yet but I already hate him then
They both initially refused then they both gave it a try so he didn’t force Ian into it they both agreed to see if they liked it.
I think that Caleb and Trevor were important for Ian's development as a person! Noel wanted to leave the show so his spot had to be filled or at least attempted to!The dynamic between Ian and Mickey is dramatic, tragic and electric! You can sense their chemistry even if they're not in the same scene! And also the lovestory between them always felt unfinished the way it ended in season 5.
Ian said it himself, he feels that thrill with Mickey, which means he feels alive and that kind of connection and deep love that you gladly let consume everything and everyone wishes to meet in life!
i definitely think caleb and trevor were a good development for ian, i do think him being able to explore different relationships and meet new people was good for his character development, but it also proved to ian the lack of chemistry he got from the two boys, compared to him being with mickey, i agree with you completely
Trevor literally pressured him into bottoming when he didn’t want to… also Trevor and Ian just didn’t have the same chemistry. It seemed forced. It was a poor attempt at replacing Mickey. I just wish they could have at least given Trevor a full personality and storyline. He would have been a really interesting character. Also them making Mickey out to be the bad guy after Ian broke up with over HIM NOT WANTING TO BE TREATED FOR HIS BIPOLAR? that break up didn’t even make any sense because Ian started taking his medicine shortly after. Thankfully their weird plan didn’t work.
But if anyone is interested in seeing Elliot Fletcher in his full potential, I suggest watching the fosters :) it has a lot of LGBTQ+ representation and also addresses very serious issues. He plays one of Callie’s love interests but his character goes far beyond that and honestly Elliot is an incredible actor
mickey will always be better than ANYTHING ian tried to get with 🤦♀️
Those questions about Trevor v Mickey got me staring off into space for God knows how long
When Ian said that Mickey wasn't much of talker, I had to do a double take. All Mickey did was talk shit 😂😂
Replacing Mickey was never going to work out. He and Ian had gone thru so much that it makes sense for them to be endgame.
“Reasons we like Mickey: character development, strong love for Ian” also he’s funny asf!!! 💀
Actually I thought Elliot wasn’t a good person
You have an AMAZING voice, and i love the way you emphasize certain words, just be careful with the POP sounds (The Letter "P") in your audio. Use a pantyhose or something like that and create an anti-pop filter, trust me, your sound quality will improve A LOT. Keep the good work!
Game Oxygen omfg thank you soo much!! Yeah I’ve realized after recording my recording sounds okay then the one random moment where I’m like “PEople” the audio is just eh. Thank you soooo much and I’ll make sure to look around the house for the pantyhose!! ♥️
@@GallavichQueen 🤣🤣🤣
i was talking into my mic on my earbuds and when yall asked what trevors last name... my confidence really said nope
I watched a video about Ian and Mickey on youtube last week. I fell in love with them immediately and started watching shameless from season 1 because of them. Thanks to this video, now I know that a lot of drama awaits me. (I wouldn't change Mickey for any other character).
Ngl it seems like they wanted trevor bc he was trans and more progressive just a thought...
honestly it’s sad that the writers were mostly using trevor in order to replace mickey. although trevor was a fucking dreadful character, i feel like him and ian could’ve had a really good friendship as shown in like the two episodes before they got together.
Totalmente de acuerdo, la parte en que Trevor dice "move on" aún teniendo en cuenta toda la mierda que ha pasado entre Ian y Mónica. Con eso, me hace volver a 5x12 cuando Mickey se entera que estuvo con su mamá y solo le pregunta "You okay" por qué sabe lo que significaba para Ian estar alrededor de Mónica, eso es interés y sigo sin superar que Mickey no tuviera oportunidad de objetar la decisión de Ian de terminar con él en S5. Period 💔
Dios mío tienes razón! Mickey entendió a Ian, mientras que Trevor no. pero tienes razón sobre el episodio 12 de s5
i think Ian bashing Mickey was just him trying to get over him. He thought pointing out all of him ‘flaws’ would make him slowly hate him but it just made him like Mickey more, he loves this flaws
Right it’s like a psychology trick. If you say something enough times eventually you’ll believe it. Ian knew he could never get over micky, but he had to cause micky was gonna be in jail for 15 years and that’s a long ass time to wait for someone. He had to move on, and the only way he could was by trying to convince himself that micky was bad for him.
@@spamspam562 exactly, the only way ian could get over mickey was to make himself believe that there was something wrong with him, but despite his flaws, ian still loved hi
@@cora5678 definitely and it took all of about 3 seconds for him to go running back to micky after he escaped from prison. He knew he loved him. But he couldn’t be with him in prison
" what is mickey's last name? "
Me : gallavich-
" if y'all say gallavich I swear to god- "
Me : I-
That is the last name that Ian gave him so..... we win lmao
For real, I LOVE THIS VIDEO. I always wanted there to be commentary videos for Shameless, please keep making these types of videos!!!
here is why mickey and ians relationship is amazing. they both come from backgrounds where being a nice guy or gay got you jumped. especially mickey who comes from a home thats waaay less supportive of being a homosexual than Ians family. It would only make sense that ian show more affection than mickey because hes gotten a lot of support and has accepted who he is, Mickey has not. well, at least not into the later seasons. Mickey cared for Ian but he was raised that it was very wrong and homosexuals should get jumped, so its a process for him. he cared about ian but didnt know how to show it so he used anger. This also made every scene were Mickey is kind to Ian and actually shows how much he cares, much more powerful. Despite the problem of mickey not accepting hes gay, he still manages to care for ian and in a normal relationship we see that a lot (like trever or caleb for instance) but when its coming from Mickey, thats true love.
Its the lack or chemistry and lack of complexity for me
If people truly paid attention to Ian and how happy he was with Mickey versus every other relationship that he’s ever been, people would understand Mickey isn’t replaceable. After Ian was on meds and was more stable you could see it in his face he was truly never as happy. Whenever he was with Mickey his true smile came out and Ian was never happier than when he was with Mickey at any point in his life. Mickey isn’t replaceable! You can’t replace someone who loved someone so much he went to jail for them even though Ian never asked, Mickey felt like it was the right thing to do to defend Ian and it cost him years in prison. Which was stupid but he felt like that was what’s right, you don’t see anyone else taking it to that level.
Trevor was SO POORLY WRITTEN jfc. Same goes for his entire ensemble of friends. It wasn’t done properly
when u said what’s trevor’s last name i said “philips” lmfao he’s from gta 5 😭
FYI : Cam decide to leave the show in season 9. and the showtime tried to call him back and he said he wanted it back if put Mickey and noel in storyline again. wow.. even Cameron know how put the show increase rating again. (or he know, he didnt make chemistry with other 2 person who made replacement for mickey, hell yah! noel and cam was there from season 1 and built up partnership. personal statment of me)
I totally didn’t realize Trevor was supposed to be a “new Mickey” because no one could replace Mickey. However, as someone else mentioned on this video, I feel Caleb and Trevor were necessary for Ian to feel somewhat normal and grow up a bit. His spent his teens being preyed upon by grown men. As much as I love Mickey, they had one of the most volatile relationships, which no one, especially a kid, should have experienced. (While we all like Mickey, he did beat the shit out of Ian and Lip in the past.) Caleb and Trevor were his chances to experience “normal” relationships. Yes, I know Caleb cheated but that’s not abnormal, just fucked up. He realized, “Wow, this is what it’s like not to get hit and go on actual dates.” I actually liked Trevor but he slid into Ian’s life so damn fast. These relationships just reinforced to Ian that Mickey would always be number one. Plus, it was fun way watching Ian go through his “hoe phase” as a consensual adult like most people do in their 20s.
Oh My God, how I'm loving your channel, thank you!!!
I literally just started S3 but you're absolutely right Gallavich forever
say what you will abt their relationship but ian's initial reaction in that club when trevor goes "im packing" is literally the funniest shit
I do think ian and trevor's relationship was necessary. Mickey was the only person his age Ian had ever "dated" before, and that in and of itself was an incredibly bumpy ride through an incredibly hard part of Ian's life. His quest for normalcy and acceptance, through dating around and discovering himself, was part of his development, and he needed it to truly realize that what he had with mickey wasn't just a teenage fling. It also gave ian a chance to flesh out his character beyond just being an army nut and bipolar.The fact that he says all this, trying to convince himself that he doesn't want to go back only to jump into mickey's arms the first chance he gets is a turning point for him.he's experienced normalcy, he's dated around, and in the end he just has to come back. You can't ride the plane without a little bit of turbulence.
trevor was always mad about something
your narration and editing was so good
The whole "Mickey is bad for me, I'm not getting involved in his shit" thing was weird af bc Mickey did everything he did for Ian and Ian alone and the writers really tried saying "Poor Ian 🥺 Mickey bad 😡" and I just never saw it that way. I hated how Ian would talk about Mickey and it made me dislike his character for a while
Mickey is a gem and nobody can change my mind on that
Totally agree I hated everyone bad mouthed him and then in season 10 they were all for Ian and Mickey being together
Honestly I think he was just trying to convince himself that micky was bad cause he knew he could never get over him. I mean if you say something so many times eventually you believe it. All it took was seeing him for him to realize that was not the case.
And for the people who think Mickey was bad for Ian:
If I remember correctly, Mickey let Ian live in his house and took care of him for two seasons, especially when he found out he was bipolar??? He accepted it when Ian made forced him to come out to his dad or he would lose Ian (I am not blaming Ian for forcing him to come out, I am seeing it as a: look all the hard things he did for Ian after Ian went through hard things for Mickey).
The only reason he and Ian broke up was because Ian's illness led him to the decision that he should break up with Mickey... and then Mickey went to prison, and then to Mexico... he didn't leave him just because. Ian broke his heart and they also had to get rid of him because Noel had other projects.
You could argue that Mickey was the one that triggered Ian's bipolar disorder because of that awful fight they had in season 3 where the writers show you Ian crying broken in bed, and then he decides to join the army cause Mickey just married his hooker. And Mickey was still in denial because of all that internalized homophobia and he wanted to tell Ian not to go but he was still scared of his dad and himself.
You could also argue that Ian and Mickey's relationship was always kind of toxic, and I mean, you wouldn't be wrong but... let me remind you, this is Shameless, everyone is screwed up. But it wasn't like their relationship was Fiona and Jimmy/Steve's. Mickey grew up in a house where his mom left, his dad beat them up, was always in prison, when he wasn't he was killing people and literally doing crime, WHEN HE GOT DRUNK HE CLIMBED ON HIS DAUGHTER'S BED AND RAPED HER AND BEAT HER UP BECAUSE HE THOUGHT IT WAS HIS WIFE.
Like... are you expecting him 1. not to be afraid of his dad
2. to have grown up knowing what a healthy relationship is??
I'm sorry to disappoint the people who think Mickey should be the picture child of "my family was hard but I was not influenced by them in any way". Do you know what it is like to grow up in an abusive household? Maybe you do, and then you know it's not easy. Also let's not forget Mickey was a boy. His dad is a walking advertisement of toxic masculinity, and he was never straight. Imagine growing up gay (or bi, but I'm pretty sure he's gay) in that household. Terry is the kind of dad that WOULD accidentally kill you when he was drunkenly bashing you because you were gay.
Are we forgetting what Ian says here? He was forced to let Svetlana fuck him at gunpoint. He was raped by a prostitute at gunpoint, his dad was holding the gun and the guy he had the only true feelings he'd ever felt for someone was forced to watch?
EVERYTHING IS FUCKED UP IN SHAMELESS.
Mickey didn't have a Fiona to protect them against Frank, and Frank was just selfish and neglectful, he wasn't violent.
So, if you think Mickey didn't turn out fucking amazing despite his upbringing then you are ignoring the first 4 seasons of the show.
Okay I'm done.
But, you know, I didn't watch the first 4 seasons of shameless so many times, and waited 5 years for Ian and Mickey to be happy, to have people say Mickey doesn't deserve Ian.
I just discovered your channel and this is the first video I saw.
Gotta admit, I love the way you narrate/edit your videos.
Keep up the good work! xx
Thank you! ♥️
You nailed it as soon as you asked, "What's Trevor's last name?" Trevor was destined to be a "one that got away" boyfriend. Mickey is Ian's heart and vice versa.
Trevor or not, I believe that you can’t just replace a character that had a 5 seasons development (even worse if he is basically everyone’s favorite you know). Plus, they tried to do it in the worst way possible
I love how this is a class. Thank u teacher ❤️❤️❤️❤️
i will always and forever be a ride or die gallavich fan
I love your videos!! Great job
What bothered me about Trevor, as a social worker and someone who has worked in youth shelters in my own career, was all the immoral illegal shit he did with the youth in his care. Like the breaches of confidentiality alone. It made his character such a horrible “saviour”, the writers should have looked into what social workers actually do and what they aren’t allowed to do.
This may be a 'change my mind' situation but "breaking barriers" point seems to be such a stupid/toxic reason to want two characters to be together.
Ian shouldn't date a trans guy *because* he's a trans guy. Its like giving out trophies because a kid hasn't gotten a trophy in a while: sure it sucks they aren't as represented but if you give out one *because* of it its no longer representation; it's unearned, shallow and ultimately degrading because it assumes the only way they could be represented is by force/intervention.
If there are good trans stories, there will be good trans movies/characters; don't need to force it for the sake of quantity OR equality.
Representation doesn't need to be earned
@@animposter4971 it's not that trans people haven't earned representation, it's that the writers haven't earned praise for their representation of a trans character because he's not really given much of a shot since he was just a replacement for mickey he was basically doomed from the start. if they hadn't tried so hard to make him a love interest then we could've actually gotten to know him as a person rather than just watch ian learn about trans people so he can fuck one.
I just want u to know that I love this, I love u, is really amazing how you make this video and how great did u really did explain this situation even tho is a series you really made it a real nice topic that makes me see the Trevor point and idk I just love this, keep doing it
You explained it so well! Loved the video👌