In Camera Cyanotype Tutorial Alternative Process Photography
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- Cyanotypes are meant to be left in direct sun, not in a camera but by making educated guesses and common sense experimentation I am able to get very interesting images in my Rolleicord and Mamiya M645. I recently started using a pre treated paper called nature print paper, find the amazon link in description which gives much better results and I can actually rinse them. here is a Flickr album with the improved images.
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Thanking Asher Katz from Jacquard products for sending the chemicals for this testing.
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JE Pipers online article about his in camera cyanotype experiments.
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Cool stuff! I just got a 4x5, might need to give this a shot!
Thanks for stopping through PNG, Ive never tried large format Id like to try a linhoff. if you ever shoot a tutorial holler at me.
Great video I know I might be a little late but you can actually develop those negatives with 7% vinegar 1/1 with water. That's at least what worked for me so you can use those negatives to actually make a positive!
So, you rinse the negative with the solution and let dry?
Great stuff! I have also been experimenting with a Rolleicord and cyanotype, and I have found that you can get permanent washed images, but they take a lot longer - 2-3 hours for non-backlit image.
This is the best video I've seen on this process. Technical, thoughtful and inspirational.
I appreciate how much care you put into your videos. Thank you for all of this wonderful information! You are amazing.
Hello Brittany thanks so much, youre getting me choked up now why you do this to me lol.
i love your passion for these creative processes & im rly grateful that u dedicate so much time & energy to sharing what u have learned. ur video format is rly helpful to follow along w the details but still stay engaged.
Lovely presentation, well explained and nice to see how this is open to everyone. 👍🏽
Hello Anthony thanks so much, I have recently found a much better way to do this using a pre treated paper called nature print paper, the good thing is when you rinse it the image is retained and the paper becomes truly white making the final image scan and inversion look as it should. the paper can be gotten on amazon, here is a link to my FLickr album using it. flic.kr/s/aHsmPbjPdG
This such a great video. Thanks for making and sharing it. The whole idea is so interesting and creative, I love it. Thanks so much mate.
Very nice video! You have unusual ideas, love them!
I really like the way you shared your thoughts on the shots. Great detail. Your cadence is great. Your voice is relaxing. Subscribed!
Hello thanks much Casey, honestly I need to do a follow up to this because I found a pre treated paper called nature print that makes my coating process obsolete as you can rinse it and get pure whites. check out this photo album of the updated images im getting. I think I put info where to get it in the description also.
flic.kr/s/aHsmPbjPdG
Thanks! I learnt a lot. I also realized by accident that the thinner coating worked better . Thanks for confirming that. Really nice images!
Just came to this via search. Instant subscriber. So well done!
Such a shame you seem to have stopped two years ago 😢
Great video mate helping heaps with my own Cynotypes!
I put it into my 4x5 view camera several years ago. Worked great.
I also made paper negative and a few contact prints from the paper negative.
Loads of fun.
Great video.
Thank you for being inventive in the technique. Most people never try Cyanotype photography, but your images are attractive. I've used full 8x10 coated paper and static objects placed under an old picture frame. Well done!
Wonderful! I was wondering if cyanotype in camera worked and I got my answer! Love the water tower so much!
Good video my friend Congratulations form ARGENTINA
This is very cool! Thank you for sharing your journey.
Hello thank you, I actually started using a pre treated paper called nature print, its much better as you can rinse it and the image remains. I put a link in the description.
Enjoyed your video. Nice alternative processing, Love the cyanotype. Waiting to see more.
Mark
Thank you. Good looking out. Your name sounds familiar
This video was extremely helpful...thank you for taking the time to do this. You gave good tips, speak clearly and do not have background music. And your neighborhood image is amazing and as you said it does have a mood that's difficult to describe. The trees definitely frame the image and it looks like it was taken in the late 1950's. I also love the low placement of the houses and expanse of sky with the trees. Seriously, I would mat and frame that.
Hello thank you so much I'm glad this was helpful. I actually found a better way to do this using a pre treated paper called nature print, it retains the image after rinsing and gives accurate white and blue. I put links in the description, here's some photos taken with it. Hope this helps
www.flickr.com/gp/aloyandersonphotography/1p4g4w
Wow, great work , Ray. I love the organic look you got. Sometimes it's the imperfections that create the beauty. You gotta get some palm trees with that process.
Thanks Ted and I agree about the palm trees I actually set up for a set of palm trees one morning outside the job I was at and my client showed up early so I had to shut down the camera only 2 minutes and the image was useless. Hard to find time in a busy work week . I'm gonna work at fine tuning them though.
Great Video! Rollei made a really nice conversion back for the Rolleiflex and Rolleicord which lets you use cut film in little darkslides. They turn up on Ebay quite often. The advantage is you can load your cyanotype paper beforehand and not have to mess around trying to avoid fogging while loading and unloading 'in the field'. Best wishes from the UK.
"There's silhouettes in your area that I don't get in my area." great job! Thanks! Good production.
Apple thanks man I really appreciate that. I'm always trying to think out the box lol
Cool! I’m going to try this in my pinhole camera! Thx for the video
awesome thanks, let me know how it goes. dont be surprised though if no pic forms it needs pretty strong UV.
Thank you.
There were people who advised for choosing a frame where the sun is behind the camera, now i see the difference
these images look almost poetic in their simplistic beauty. and the water tower is right out of a science fiction story, very etherial! just yesterday I bought Jacquard cyanotype purple and am looking forward to experimenting with it. thanks for this great video. your creative curiosity benefits us all!
Great video, been experimenting with large format without much success, some great tips here, I will try again, thanks
Amazing research, congratulations. I've been struggling looking for a video like this one of yours... It just came to my mind that in camera cyanotype should be possible and I'm so happy I found your confirmation. Thanks a lot!
I'm certainle interested. Thank you for the inspiration.
Love it! I myself am experimenting with in-camera anthotypes. My best anthotype paper is still far less sensitive than cyanotype paper (requiring multiple-day exposures in a homemade camera for very poor results), BUT it responds well to a wide range of light colors and not just UV. I'm still hopeful I will succeed in getting a good image. Your video was beautifully presented and inspiring. Thank you.
Very cool. Thanks for sharing. I think I'll give this a go in my 4x5.
I've been thinking about trying 4 x 5 but I just don't feel like investing in another scanner on top of the camera LOL
@@Raychristofer you can split scan them and stitch together in ps but yeah, there's always money to be spent.
@@adamm4926 hey with a name like that how come you don't have videos on the subject
Ray, thanks for making this. I found it really interesting. Btw, that is one beautiful Rolleicord; it looks like it just left the factory.
Hello Ian thank you yes many of these old cameras are mechanical gems. Once I rested it on a fence and a strong wind blew it to the ground in some grass and gravel my heart stopped, wasn't broken but has a few small scratches.
Thank you for your very interesting tutorial.
I’m using the same camera I already had. Missed the comment on washing so all my earlier efforts failed. Lots of sun later in the day. Thanks for showing this method. Lots of inspiration.
Beautiful photos and awesome experimentation. Thanks for sharing your process!
Hello Alice thanks for stopping by and taking the time to leave a comment. You and my mother have the same name by the way
Try pinhole camera, just build a box with hole and put bigger coated paper. I am in UK so no good sun index at this time. I will try it on summertime. Thanks for video and idea
Really enjoyed this video! Keep making content please. Our family loves your creativity.
I searched for this information for a long time (cyanotype & camera) Thank you so much. I am working on Lubitel 166B
I'm glad you tried in camera cyanotypes. Great idea.
Wonderful work
Thanks for the visit
You seem so passionate about photography and I can tell how much fun you had doing these experiments.
this is fascinating, thanks so much for making this :)
Great stuff, thanks!
hello thanks so much. At some point I plan to do a traditional cyanotype tutorial as well as how to do it on fabric so stay tuned in the coming weeks or months
Never thought of in-camera cyanotypes, thanks for pointing this out :)
This is really terrific. Thanks for posting. I recently got a toyo 4x5 and had not thought about making cyanotypes with it. Now I can't wait to give it try.
Hello thanks so much Aimee. It's an advanced thing so take your time and learn from each print. Let me know how it goes.
The Water Tower is a great shot.
Hello Ray. I’m a little late to the party on your video here and I don’t normally comment on videos. However, I feel compelled to write to let you know how inspirational your video was! You’ve saved me a lot of time and hassle. But above all, you’ve motivated me to try this!
Congratulations on your various trials to get the desired results. I also liked the way you gave credit to those photographers, before you, who’ve developed this technique and from whom you’ve derived the ideas to use in your own work. Well done indeed!! 👍⭐️⭐️⭐️
I am excited because i have my grandmother camera so this is exciting
Thank you for publishing these results of your investigations. They are very helpful for me whilst considering the same issue. Have you ever considered trying to use bigger format glass dry plates with gelatin cyanotype coating? The gelatin assures an even coating and protects the material from floating away and the glass doesn't soak the coating, which should result in a more efficient penetration of UV light into the layer. As the "normal" coating of glass or tin dry plates with UV and blue light sensitive emulsion works quite fine, I think that Cyanotype should not make a huge difference.
ooo man, i've been thinking of doing the same stuff for years, i have the chemicals i bought 10 years ago, both of them are stored in amber bottles and stored in a cool dark place. i've tested using my negatives and exposed them under direct sunlight, results seems pretty good, signs that my chemicals are still good. i'm gonna try to use your methos using my holga instead. thanks a lot ray and by the way, those are sick photos you got there dude.
such an amazing tutorial
Hello thank you, I don't know how I missed your comment for 5 months. I'm glad it was helpful
I just find out cyanotypie existed ...great video easy explained😄
You say you're not an expert... For me you're a master 💙
I've got two medium format photos. I'm gonna have to try this right now!
I love the water tower! it looks like it's taken from above
First, I want to thank you a lot!
I hesitated so much before using cyanotype in a camera. I am not really interrested in its inital use that is objects scanning. And the only photography's results I saw were... disapointing. But now you gave some sort of motivation to keep on the cyanotype photography!
Hello how are you? Have we spoken before? Yes you're welcome and definitely let me know what your results are like. What camera will you be using?
@@Raychristofer Hello, no and it is your first video I watched.
I started analogic photography when I found two old cameras in my house (Canon AE-1 program, and Revue 400L). But argentic photography is a long process, and I prefer non-standard ones.
So I studied pinhole cameras to learn more about light, optic, etc.
Now I feel ready to make a camera with a lens. I plan the aperture to be very large in order to reduce the shutter-speed while using cyanotype.
I hesitated for monthes because of the possible results but your experiments are very convicting.
My first results should come later.
Please forgive my english grammar :)
@@clement010200 your English is spectacular. Don't apologize. Respect
@@Raychristofer Hello, this is me, one year later. Today, I finally achieved making a decent cyanotype positive picture, without any use of computer.
I used transparent paper, gelatin, and more to take the picture, make a negative then transfer it into a positive picture.
I researched on it for about 6 months in order to get the best quality possible.
Thank you for getting me into it!
If you want to know more, it would be a pleasure to discuss about this process
Have a good day !
Thanks. Great video. I'm going to do it!
Nicely done, thank you!
i watched your videos lots of times and i tried with my flexaret, thank you so much !
Hello thank you so much, please let me see some of your results and I don't know if you saw the notes in the video but I'm getting much better results with a pre-treated paper called nature print because it allows me to rinse
Very relevant experiment, I believe there is still room for innovation here. A photo paper
/solvent for large format with a dead simple process would be next generation. We need to make it more light sensitive first.
Wow I love this! Gonna try it in my 4x5 camera when my chemicals arrive in the mail today :) thanks for making this video, I’m looking forward to watching more of your videos.
.LOL thanks so much yelling that's funny you said that because a subscriber gifted me a 4 x 5 last week it's called in Newton New view. I'm in a field right now doing a in-camera of that same windmill for my first test. One thing I have to say is I instead using the chemicals to coat my paper I started buying a pretreated paper called nature print.what is incredible about it is the image remains on the paper even after yourinse it so the color is romaine accurately white and blue instead of yellow. look at the link to my Instagram I have some sample images shot using that paper.
instagram.com/p/CCHcyfCn_3w/?igshid=1gx2k29hj1j86
Ray you do such a wonderful job explaining these techniques. I need more videos. I am so glad that I found and subscribed to you. God bless you and keep up the great work. I look forward to the next video.
Hello thank you so much, yes I pull my hair out when I watch tutorials that aren't clear so I try to be easy to understand. Definitely check out my latest video it's a full cyanotypes tutorial on doing it with paper, fabric and photographs. Thanks for your support
@@Raychristofer I Have already watched all your videos that I have interest in. That is why I need more. Ray you have the talent, the voice and the patience for this. I cannot wait until more people catch on. You will be a great success and I will be here watching it happen. 😊❤🥰
@@NeitherYouNorIAreRight hey thanks so much. Some of these videos take as much as 3 weeks to put together so I'm not able to upload is often but thanks for your support 😊
Great video man! I really enjoyed seeing what others are doing with in camera cyanotypes. Keep it up.
Hello thank you. I hand spooled a roll of nature print onto a 120 roll so I'll be trying my Mamiya m645 ,having 2.8 instead of 3.5 should help with a darker negative print
very GOOD Ray, much appreciated! check out the photomuseum in Vevey and the Elyssee in Lausanne here in Switzerland, keep up the good works !
Hi Ray,
This is a wonderful video and a highly interesting idea and process. I like to experiment myself and I'll try it out soon.
Hello thank you, let me know how it goes with your tests. You'll find some scenes are more suited for it than
Very good video.🙏
Hey thanks for checking it out. Glad it was helpful
Thank you! I loved this lesson
Thanks Dustin. You're one of the few guys who commented on this. Glad it was helpful.
Thanks Ray you are a creative and smart dude!!!
Hello thanks for checking this out it's one of my longest videos. there's a lot more things I would like to try I just don't have the time or the equipment 😞
Amazing Ray! I just got the idea about to take the photos this way and looking for someone with the same idea. Thank you for this. So glad I can see someone like you. Pure inspiration. I will try with my 100 type camera. Can't wait. Regards from Czech Republic
Great Video! Super interesting! :)
Thank you for reminding me about this! I've tried it in the past and had a little trouble with exposure times. I am going to try it again.
Hello Connie thanks for checking this out. Long as you shoot in bright Sun you will be good.
I love it! I'm going to try it myself!
This was very interesting! Thanks for sharing this technique.
Nice work. I am just getting back into photography this last year. Cyanotype is just up my alley for budget print. Can't wait to see what results I get. Thanks again
Awesome man thank you. To be honest cyanotype in camera is quite difficult but give it a try. Actually I recommend also shooting dark room paper in camera that's a fun way to challenge yourself and I've been getting some good results with that as well I'm working on a video review of how to do it but it's taking weeks to put together
@@Raychristofer it surely on my photography bucket list. I am in central Florida and my materials have been hostage in TN for three days. I missed the dead line for an IG contest. But that's ok I waited 15 years I can do few more days. Keep up the great work.
@@LuisMuniz2 I love central florida because I skateboard alot and there's at least some hills there to slalom down.
Awesome! Thank you for the tips. I have had their Cyanotype kit sitting on my shelf for a coupke of months and you inspired me to mix it up and use it. I have an old 6x9 folding camera that I will have to try it with.
Hello and thanks , you're doing better than me with that larger format camera. Let me guess it's either a Russian Moskva or a Zeiss ikon
@@Raychristofer it is a folding Universal Roamer II. They are old but inexpensive.
Cool! I love that water tower photo. It looks like something out of war of the worlds.
I wonder if this would work with a pinhole camera. Since there is no lens in a pinhole camera maybe the uv rays would get through better.
How about one of those simple box cameras that have a bulb mode that has a single lens?
Awesome! I'm gonna try it now too! Thanks for the information!!!
Very inspiring! Thank you for this video. We looked for the material needed to try cyanotype and your videos kept our attention because of the in camera method. Your pictures are so moody, so beautiful 👌
I did a video on this years ago, but you certainly did so much better with explaining!
Hello thank you. Everyone has their unique point or view though. I want to see your video though I will check.
@@Raychristofer Don't expect much!
I've been wanting to try this for a long time with an old film camera. I know a lot more now and am going to do it soon. Thanks!
Fascinating. And beautiful. I tried creating cyanotypes using an enlarger, but as you say, insufficient UV light doesn’t yield results.
Thanks for this video - really useful, concise and informative. Came here looking for possible hints about using homemade camera obscura - hadn't thought about the idea of using a medium or large format camera - brilliant idea! Shall try and dig out my old twin lens reflex to see if I can use it. Cheers!
Very well done, Ray. Exciting to get some lessons, tips and a good back story/education on this kind of thing. I enjoy shooting "slow" and this certainly falls into that realm. And it's oId school-cool!
Thanks UP. Of course the limiting factor is having to leave your camera out for a good while switch to eliminate a lot of photos if you can't tend to it. That's why a lot of folks make homemade Pin hole cameras and put them in trees and stuff
Fantastic video, thank you! I'm really excited to start playing with cyanotypes. I love making my own cameras, and this technique means size is almost no object... :)
Awesome that's what I want to hear definitely share your social media I'd like to see what you're doing. Also look maybe two months ago I posted a tutorial how to do traditional cyanotype as well
@@Raychristofer Great, I'll check that out! If I get any half decent results I'll pop them on my Flickr (and maybe IG) , feel free to follow :)
www.flickr.com/photos/simontomlinson
IG @turtletwist
good results and glad you went ahead to try it despite not finding many people doing it in camera.now i know it can be done.
Hey analog thanks for checking this out I appreciate that. recently I started using a pretreated paper called nature print paper and what is beautiful about it is I can actually wash the paper and the print remains. What is important with that is I can get the paper back two white instead of yellow and when it's scanned and inverted the colors are more pure and I get much more fine detail. I'm going to show you an album with the new method. flic.kr/s/aHsmPbjPdG
@@Raychristofer this is so cool and i think they look good in amber. Will check out nature print products!
Love this, Ray! Was about to test some 4x5 holders using cyanotype paper, but was going to just test the darkside light trap (keeping the shutter closed) - now I'm going to run those tests as exposures, both to test this technique and see if there are any leaks :)
Hello Dan that's awesome man. I'm actually testing some pretreated cyanotype paper that was sent to me by a company called nature print paper and it is excellent for in camera because the image is actually retained after you rinse it and the paper becomes white again in the unexposed areas instead of staying yellow. if you'd like to see some preliminary tests check out my Instagram the link is in my homepage, I'm glad I was able to help
@@Raychristofer Raychristofer Just saw those! I'm using pretreated sheets of Sunprint paper (had a pack of it I was using with my neice and nephew a few months ago), though I also have the Jaquard bottles ready to go. I'll do some tests on these exposures and see how well this brand of paper holds onto the image after rinsing... 🙌🏼
After watching your video, I dusted off my old Crown Graphic 2-1/4x3-1/4 camera,
made some measurements for how big to make the sensitized pieces of paper,
and I'm just waiting for the chemistry to arrive! Thanks for this!
That's awesome man!! Love it. Lemme know how it goes. Quality should be massive.check out my latest video also it's a tutorial on how to do traditional cyanotypes in various ways
Thank you so much for this video ! I wanted to do that a few weeks ago but didn't try because I didn't want to get negtive images, but you motivated me ! Keep on going, you gained a subscriber :)
Most of the lenses have some anti uv coating and other coating for flare etc., so maybe that's why you're need so much sun light... Very good video by the way ;)
Thank you GB, yes I agree and even when I put a glass plate on top of the traditional cyanotypes to hold the flowers flat you can clearly see the paper that is not behind the glass gets darker so I can imagine multiple lens elements doing that as well. I'm curious if I tried a very old uncoated 3 element lens how it would behave
Awesome! I've been wanting to try this. Thank you for this vid!
Hello thank you so much. I don't know if you read my video description but I've started using a pre-treated paper called nature print that is so much better because you can actually rinse the image and it will retain, the advantage of that is now you have the pure white part of the paper and it will be a true cyanotype color. I need to do an updated review of this at some point
@@Raychristofer Very cool...I will have to look into that. I've been thinking about this process for a long time! I have a variety of old cameras to try it with.
The rinse off is most likely due to the amount of UV being allowed through the lens, also how long and well the paper was dried before trying.
Anyway, thanks for the info! I just followed you on insta!
Thanks for this video, I was just considering trying this with an old brownie.
This is very inspiring! Great episode!
Thank you!
Excited to try this, thanks a lot!!
Hello you're welcome let me know how it goes. I also did a follow-up standard cyanotype tutorial a few weeks ago
This is awesome, really appreciate the time you put into this. Super cool looking results, can’t wait to try
Wonderful. Thank You!
hello thanks for checking it out, I'm working on a updated version of this using a pre coated paper that actually retains the image after rinsing. I'll show you a link of some of the photos with this better process
flic.kr/s/aHsmPbjPdG
@@Raychristofer I tried some of the last couple days and they did not come out with nearly as much contrast or shortness is yours did. Particularly the picture with the kind of predation of clouds going from light in the center to dark on the outskirts. Each shift was very subtle but your method picked it up quite well.
@@robking9233 hello how are you? I actually started using a new kind of pretreated paper called nature print paper. What I like about it is you can rinse the paper without the image washing away and furthermore when you rinse it the paper becomes white again so you have an accurate Amber image once it is inverted. a few days ago I attempted three different in camera images and they also did not come out as strong as I wanted but when I think about it they were not silhouettes and I only left them for 10 minutes as it was super hot outside. look at my Instagram and check out the images I got on this nature print paper they are much better and have more fine detail.
@aloyandersonphotography
Hello I forgot to tell you to experiment with shooting subjects back lit by the sun. Triumph palm tree or cell phone tower is or something like thatbecause you will only need a 10 minute exposure in direct sun and it will help with your learning process. if you're shooting something with the sun behind the camera those times you will need to be prepared to leave the camera sitting for an hour and that makes it more tricky so those experiments are best to practice in your yard
@@Raychristofer Hello Sir! I will try this. Also, my speech to text function was in the constant error mode when I left my original message. You were able to decode it thankfully. Have a great one, Rob
Your video has helped me so much! You made a great video! Thankyou 😊🧡
super interisting video mate, thanks for sharing
Thank you, I haven't really experimented with it more since putting this video together but I hope to do it in a large format
Great video. I love your grainy, haunting images. As you say - the antithesis of “Digital Perfection”
I’ve been looking to try some of these alternative processes in camera, by coating strips of paper. A 120 roll is about 1m (3.3ft), so you can get a lot of images from a roll of art paper (such as Awagami papers).
I’ve also been thinking of using old Polaroid film packs. I have a mamiya RB67 and a Polaroid back,so I might well try this
Have you considered applying a wash of coffee to your prints? Fix with white vinegar or sodium carbonate, then soak in coffee and rinse in vinegar again
Beautiful work man!! I've been looking for examples of cyanotypes done in camera and didn't find any. Thanks I'll start trying right now. Greetings from Argentina!
Thank you brother great to finally hear from Argentina. Please let me know or see your experiments when you get a grip on it. By the way here's a link to the guy that inspired me.
www.alternativephotography.com/making-cyanotypes-in-camera/
@@Raychristofer Yes, it will be a pleasure, I'll send you a few pictures when I made them. Thanks for the link, it's really helpful!! Keep up the good work!!