The Real Letters from Roman Soldiers

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  • čas přidán 28. 02. 2024
  • These are letters written by Roman soldiers nearly 2,000 years ago. They were written on wooden tablets in ink made with charcoal and tree sap. When they were discovered, they the oldest handwritten texts ever found in Britain, and the oldest handwritten Latin texts ever found. All of them come from Vindolanda, a Roman fort right by Hadrian’s Wall. They were preserved in anaerobic bog-like conditions, so what you’re about to hear are real Roman soldiers from the 1st to 2nd century AD, nearly 2,000 years ago.
    In the video, I use pictures that aren't necessarily representative of the exact tablet because many are only available in black and white. You can read them all for free here: romaninscriptionsofbritain.or....
    Music: Celtic Impulse by Kevin MacLeod.

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  • @markbeck8384
    @markbeck8384 Před 2 měsíci +321

    This makes them very real: dealing with friendships and family, money matters, supply needs, justice.. just like us today.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +35

      It's a breath of fresh air compared to normal history focused on war and politics

    • @user-uu1nw1bl9j
      @user-uu1nw1bl9j Před 2 měsíci +15

      Yeah its almost if theyre humans. /S Very nice indeed. That's why I generally like memoirs and old diaries.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +16

      @user-uu1nw1bl9j yes but humans who crucified people! They're like us but not like us at the same time

    • @notsocrates9529
      @notsocrates9529 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Why wouldn't they have to do deal with those things?

    • @Mumbo_Jumbo_Kiwi.1
      @Mumbo_Jumbo_Kiwi.1 Před 2 měsíci

      as if the letter writers were compelled to a code of due diligence, suffer the consequences

  • @ronorazine9105
    @ronorazine9105 Před 2 měsíci +534

    Interesting as a young soldier in viet nam on the DMZ, i had no good socks or underware due to a seige. Sent a request to my mother and received once things quieted down two packages of socks snd underwear plus some snacks. Couldnt help but smile at the roman soldier who got knitted socks.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +54

      It's sweet how some things never change

    • @captainamerica6525
      @captainamerica6525 Před 2 měsíci +39

      I too had to smile at the mention of warm knitted socks from a mother to her legionary son. I spent 2 years in Germany and the winters were damnably cold. I wrote home for some battery operated socks which my folks hastily sent. The more things change....

    • @randomvintagefilm273
      @randomvintagefilm273 Před 2 měsíci +21

      Thank you for your service sir ❤

    • @user-qs7gx7rp7m
      @user-qs7gx7rp7m Před 2 měsíci +13

      Nothing ever changes except for the stage settings and thecast members in lifes constant drama. The scrip always remains the same or so this fellow with 3/4 of a century experience and love of history believes.

    • @pilarrusso9883
      @pilarrusso9883 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Your mother had to send you clothes, this should be the Gobertment duty.I am shocked.

  • @EndingSimple
    @EndingSimple Před 2 měsíci +413

    It is precious to hear from human beings that far back in time. Thank you for it.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +26

      It is a miracle really. Thanks for you comment!

    • @Sketch_Sesh
      @Sketch_Sesh Před 2 měsíci +13

      @@TopRomanFactssounds like they hand made a lot of things with the hides, sinew, threshing grain etc..

    • @IrishAnnie
      @IrishAnnie Před 2 měsíci +7

      Makes them very human to us instead of legend.

    • @owllymannstein7113
      @owllymannstein7113 Před 2 měsíci +3

      If you look around on youtube there's a video where they read the epitaphs from a Roman pet cemetery, its probably the most pointlessly sad video on youtube, but does make you see the Romans as very human.

    • @partiellementecreme
      @partiellementecreme Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@Sketch_Sesh people were pretty industrious about making a lot of the things that they needed, before very recent history.

  • @branscombeR
    @branscombeR Před 2 měsíci +537

    The Vindolanda tablets also include a letter from a worried mother having heard that the climate at Hadrian's Wall was very cold in winter, enclosed a gift of hand-knitted warm socks ... and a party invitation from one woman to another on this, the most northerly frontier of the Roman empire. R (Australia)

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +76

      I love those letters too, thank you for bringing them up. I feel like this topic deserves a part 2!

    • @wilburgraham6260
      @wilburgraham6260 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Well said proggs 😉

    • @aeliusdawn
      @aeliusdawn Před 2 měsíci +27

      Australia? Damn, the Romans sure ventured far!

    • @venus_envy
      @venus_envy Před 2 měsíci +3

      I was wondering why those were left out!

    • @phnix6242
      @phnix6242 Před 2 měsíci +8

      Aha Australia eh?!

  • @Nellis202
    @Nellis202 Před 2 měsíci +147

    People are people ……. even two thousand years ago .
    Same hopes , same dreams. Makes it all the more palpable.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +9

      People never change!

    • @TaraConti
      @TaraConti Před měsícem +1

      @@TopRomanFactsOnly the stuff around us…

    • @zhhrah
      @zhhrah Před 18 dny +3

      Their brains had the same software as we do now

  • @537monster
    @537monster Před 2 měsíci +126

    I love these letters because they remind you that first and foremost, that these were real people. With families, loved ones, hopes and dreams, pet peeves and annoyances, etc… it’s very enlightening and helps us relate to these people who lived thousands of years ago.

  • @robinharwood5044
    @robinharwood5044 Před 2 měsíci +164

    As I recall, at least one letter referred, not just to socks, but to warm underpants. Hardly surprising. if you are standing on the wall at midnight, in winter, you’ll want more than just a tunic between the North Wind and your essentials.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +7

      That's a great letter

    • @BlindSquirrel666
      @BlindSquirrel666 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Is that the letter wherein we learned the Latin word for underwear?@@TopRomanFacts

    • @rickh3714
      @rickh3714 Před 2 měsíci +10

      ​@@BlindSquirrel666
      "Bolochus frigidus nomorus. 🩳
      Called simply 'Bolfriginos' in vulgar Latin." Prof Quentin Blenkinsopp, Perils of Roman Britain & Ancient Caledonia, Univ of Suxford Press 🧐

    • @brawdygordii
      @brawdygordii Před měsícem

      Thus proving that the Scots are tougher cookies than any Roman Legionnaire.
      It was only after 1707 and the anglicisation of the lowlands that the hardy Scots were infiltrated by lilly-livered Sasenachs (Saxons) with their pink frilly knickers and their troosers. What the ladies wore I don't know:-)

    • @markwardel6751
      @markwardel6751 Před měsícem +1

      @@rickh3714 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Sopmylo
    @Sopmylo Před 2 měsíci +69

    Closest we'll get to actually sitting in a room with a Roman.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Great way to put it

    • @remilenoir1271
      @remilenoir1271 Před 2 měsíci

      I'm pretty sure you can sit in a room with any of the 3 million romans alive today.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@remilenoir1271 that's a very large room

  • @bryanmaxwell7332
    @bryanmaxwell7332 Před 2 měsíci +42

    While I was in USMC boot camp in fall of 1985….I sent a letter to my biological mom and biological dad…both divorced from each other since I was 9 years old…mom ( a part time waitress at Denny’s )..sent me cookies and photos of her dad who was a former US Marine. I got a letter from my biological father while I was in boot camp also…he said he was repulsed and disgusted with me going into the USMC….he was a devote Jehovah Witness. I just retired as a Lieutenant General, Vice Chair on the Joint Chief of Staff…38 years serving my country. He ended up fleeing the USA as a felony charged tax evader and for insurance fraud…He is perceived to reside on the Cook Island, Rarotonga, Matavera ….Some pain as a child will stay with you for decades….

    • @Gibeah
      @Gibeah Před měsícem

      damn the Roman Soldiers had it better than you...

    • @Misses-Hippy
      @Misses-Hippy Před měsícem +2

      And some pains move in for good. A JW dad - Yikes!

    • @leonpastis4663
      @leonpastis4663 Před měsícem +1

      What has your personal story to do with the history of the Roman Empire?

    • @marieshka1
      @marieshka1 Před 28 dny +4

      Thank you for sharing your story. It’s a contemporary version of a sentiment that could have been written 2,000 years ago. ❤

    • @scottlaux6934
      @scottlaux6934 Před 20 dny

      Nice story. You mom at Denny's, your JW pop who obviously didn't stay on the straight and narrow.

  • @KravKernow
    @KravKernow Před 2 měsíci +83

    The Vindolanda tablets are my favourite find in archaeology. They just so humanise the community there. I love the complaint about the state of the roads. Just shows how the myth and reality aren't always the same. They also have interesting examples of people using latin letters to transliterate the local Celtic languages into writing.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +5

      Yep very well put 👏

    • @Misses-Hippy
      @Misses-Hippy Před měsícem +1

      "Transliterate" - a new word for me. Thx.

    • @view1st
      @view1st Před 16 dny +1

      Transcribe is the word you want I think. As far as I can tell the ancient Celts had no written language to transliterate.
      Transcribe means to put spoken words into written form. Transliterate means to put one form of writing into another form of writing. An example would be turning Chinese ideograms into Latin script so they can be read in English.

    • @KravKernow
      @KravKernow Před 16 dny

      @@view1st Much obliged

  • @francisebbecke2727
    @francisebbecke2727 Před 2 měsíci +45

    Problems of every day people are about the same them as now. Great find!

  • @alaakela
    @alaakela Před 2 měsíci +39

    How marvelous! We are reading letter from 2000 years ago! Love it!

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +5

      And we are doing so due to the potluck nature of archaeology

  • @bertmacdonald337
    @bertmacdonald337 Před 2 měsíci +102

    The HBO series, ROME was an eye opener into how Romans lived, fought and died. The soldiers Lucius Vorenus and Titus Pullo were actual people, mentioned in Julius Caesars conquest of Britain. They both were centurions, vying for the top spot SNCO in their Unit and by Caesar`s account were both absolute machines. Do your own research into those blokes.
    In the armoury at Royal Marines Commando Training Centre, down one side is a long counter where recruits draw their weapons for training . On the wall down the opposite side, was a series of drawings comparing our training to that of Roman Legionnairs. Not much has changed in two thousand years!
    Ray Stevenson who passed away recently, played Pullo with such aplomb that I would be happy to have him as a Marine in my Troop.
    Rest Easy Ray, sleep well Pullo

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +29

      HBO Rome is an amazing piece of TV. It's such a shame it was cancelled before the full multi series plan could have been filmed

    • @lindaross783
      @lindaross783 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Amazing show!!!

    • @platero1993
      @platero1993 Před 2 měsíci +4

      RIP titus pullo!

    • @fredgarv79
      @fredgarv79 Před 2 měsíci +5

      It was cancelled because it cost so much to make. They even cut back on things in the second season and it seemed kind of rushed to me. I have never, ever seen a series more real, more accurate, more visually perfect than that series. Back when HBO actually had decent series like the sopranos etc and ROME. Actually the new series The Chosen is about as good, without the huge budget and yet it still looks fantastic and very authentic and real.

    • @user-fu9vj9ix3g
      @user-fu9vj9ix3g Před 2 měsíci +4

      Had no idea he passed. RIP. The Pullo character was epic.

  • @steiner554
    @steiner554 Před 2 měsíci +49

    So even back then people couldn't be trusted with their word. Deals are broken, promises are broken, appointments are broken, people are beaten.

  • @njhoepner
    @njhoepner Před 2 měsíci +35

    It reminds me of when I lived in Wiesbaden, Germany, which in Roman times was a major fortress and settlement. There was a short bridge from the Roman period there, and just below it a few Roman gravestones. One was of a centurion. So there I was, a U.S. Army officer serving in Germany, looking at the gravestone of a Roman Army officer serving in Germany. It was an interesting feeling.

    • @colinhunt4057
      @colinhunt4057 Před 2 měsíci +2

      In the ancient city square in Regensburg is the central cathedral surrounded by a wall. The wall is not very high, but obviously of great age. In the centre of the wall is a gateway in the form of an arch. Carved into the arch are the words "Porta Praetoria". These words signify the front gate of a Roman legion fortress. Regensburg was created by the Romans as a legion fortress. Regensburg was one of the relatively convenient crossing places over the Danube River, hence the need to garrison it strongly.

    • @njhoepner
      @njhoepner Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@colinhunt4057 If you go to Trier (originally Augustinium Treverorum) you can see the Black Gate or "Porta Nigra," one of the four gates of the original city fortification. The city was founded in the first century and originally unwalled, because it was on the "safe" side of the Rhine, over 50km inside the imperial border. Then, in the 3rd century, the Romans realized they had to fortify it. The gate is truly massive...the walls were high and thick...and just as they finished the fortifications, the Alemanni stormed through and sacked the city. Oh, the irony.

    • @colinhunt4057
      @colinhunt4057 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@njhoepner Trier, formerly known as Treves in English, was I believe the former capital of the western Roman Empire. At that time, the Empire had four capitals: Augustinium Trevororum, Ravenna, Constantinople and Antioch. These served the purpose of allowing the resident Emperor or Caesar to remain closer to the local armies defending the frontier. Trier would have been one of the principal cities of the empire in the 3rd century AD., as it would have been the administrative centre of Britain, France, Spain. Trier would also have the advantage of being on a main commercial highway of the western Empire, the Rhine River.
      It would be nice to visit it someday. There are few enough Roman ruins surviving to this day, and it would be good to see more of them.

    • @njhoepner
      @njhoepner Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@colinhunt4057 Trier was a capital, and when they could no longer keep it secure it moved, eventually to Milan, and then Ravenna when even Italy was no longer secure.
      Trier is pretty impressive to visit. There's the gate, the amphitheater, and a medieval cathedral that is also pretty cool to see.

    • @JuliusCaesar888
      @JuliusCaesar888 Před měsícem +1

      Rowdy Germans always needing occupation lmao.

  • @CrankyGrandma
    @CrankyGrandma Před 2 měsíci +52

    It’s funny how close in style this is to Paul’s epistles.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +14

      Very similar

    • @olleani
      @olleani Před 2 měsíci +1

      This must be the polite style of Latin afforded when you were writing or talking publicly. Because it sounds too stiff to be vernacular.

    • @dgrewar
      @dgrewar Před 2 měsíci +1

      I also thought so.

    • @evelynsaungikar3553
      @evelynsaungikar3553 Před 2 měsíci

      Paul was a Roman.

    • @danacamp5437
      @danacamp5437 Před měsícem +5

      Similar to the apostle Paul's style? Not even close. These notes are all very stiff and full of unnecessary wordiness.
      Paul's writing is dense and complex, but nothing is "fluff" or extraneous. It's incredibly deep, philosophical reasoning. Analytical brilliance, not tedium. And, Paul was writing in koine Greek, not Latin.
      So very different.

  • @acebrandon3522
    @acebrandon3522 Před 2 měsíci +41

    That was very interesting, due to the fact that the soldiers that wrote these letters 2000 years-ago were dead but their words were preserved and alive for 45 generations. For us to read and learn from.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +11

      I sometimes wonder how they would have felt about us reading their immortal words

    • @acebrandon3522
      @acebrandon3522 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@TopRomanFacts The same as us. Upset over it most likely. The Romans had the same struggles as us today, but the technology was way different. Think if we today were in the same boat as the Romans were. 2000 years from now somebody discovers a well-preserved cell phone, or I pad and found a way to activate it and read our stored emails. I wonder how they would see us primitives today. 🤔

    • @davidkeely43
      @davidkeely43 Před 2 měsíci +7

      If it were my daughter’s old cell phone, it is highly doubtful that they would understand the meanings of the messages!!

    • @masti733
      @masti733 Před 2 měsíci +3

      It's probably closer to 100 generations. It's only recent people have children later in life, people had short life expectancy then. I bet it was common for 20 year old women to have a child already. 2000 / 20 = 100.

    • @acebrandon3522
      @acebrandon3522 Před 2 měsíci

      @@masti733You may be actually closer than I was in the generational estimate.

  • @sookie4195
    @sookie4195 Před 2 měsíci +14

    I love history warts and all. I dislike people trying to rewrite history. Thank you for sharing!

  • @Calligraphybooster
    @Calligraphybooster Před 2 měsíci +37

    “He has not credited them to my account“?
    Implying some banking system? Wow. I would love to know more.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +9

      Yes it's so interesting! Perhaps this will he a video one day... thanks for the comment

    • @justinrichards7822
      @justinrichards7822 Před 2 měsíci +2

      That sentence caught my attention, too..

    • @justinrichards7822
      @justinrichards7822 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@TopRomanFacts please do !!

    • @carloscollomps1552
      @carloscollomps1552 Před 2 měsíci +4

      They had some kind of banking and credit system, just like the Crusaders a little later.

    • @partiellementecreme
      @partiellementecreme Před 2 měsíci +2

      Banking in Ancient Rome is a Wikipedia article.

  • @kenbo-2179
    @kenbo-2179 Před 2 měsíci +13

    I did enjoy their words. Thank you for bringing them to us!

  • @Ghenesa
    @Ghenesa Před 2 měsíci +30

    crazy that we have this

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +10

      Yep. It's such a shame to think about howuch organic material has been lost though

  • @davidnash1220
    @davidnash1220 Před 2 měsíci +12

    I was lazy not walking the length of the wall but seeing the main parts it was lovely weather and just great to see especially the letters saved from Vindolanda, it's as if you can touch history
    You reading these reminds me of that trip 👍

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +2

      Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for you comments

  • @NokMTG
    @NokMTG Před 17 dny +2

    Sounds like my main man from the fall of civilizations podcast! Love your work

  • @HollyMoore-wo2mh
    @HollyMoore-wo2mh Před 2 měsíci +4

    I visited there back in Nov of 2023. and YES it was chilly rainy and wet... and I LOVED every minute of it.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +2

      It's just get. I have to go back!

    • @HollyMoore-wo2mh
      @HollyMoore-wo2mh Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@TopRomanFactsI was just thinking about that last night.

  • @welshpete12
    @welshpete12 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Truly remarkable , it really brings these people to life ! This is one video to keep !

  • @chimneydriptray2439
    @chimneydriptray2439 Před 2 měsíci +8

    Words are a index character they indicated the intelligence of the Person who wrote them. 2000 years old and they sound highly intelligent conversations .

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Absolutely right

    • @chimneydriptray2439
      @chimneydriptray2439 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Are the words in the bible any less potents now than when they were first spoken, 2000 year ago?

  • @Incorruptus1
    @Incorruptus1 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Wow! Thank you so much for uploading/producing.

  • @davidnash1220
    @davidnash1220 Před 2 měsíci +8

    Excellent
    I visited the Wall last year absolutely fantastic and Vindolanda breathtaking

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci

      Amazing I love Hadrian's Wall. Did you do a hike or just visit the main bits?

    • @danielepedoussaut8860
      @danielepedoussaut8860 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@TopRomanFacts j'étais sur le Mur d'Hadrien il y a bien 30 ans. Le paysage , admirable, du soleil, des digitales pourpres (foxgloves). Un brave chien courait au sommet, tout joyeux. Et sa maitresse un peu âgée me disant : Yet, he's older than me by dogs' standards ! J' ai même trouvé un bout de hache de pierre, brisée, que j'ai perdu depuis.

  • @shoegazeforever8810
    @shoegazeforever8810 Před 2 měsíci +12

    The Vindolanda tablets: Britain's greatest national treasure.

  • @dagwort
    @dagwort Před 2 měsíci +54

    At 3:50, a certain Octavius writes about acquiring 5000 "ears of corn" for the garrison. I'm no expert, but I recall that "corn" in ancient context is a translation of "granum", a Latin term for "grain" in general. Modern corn (or maize) is a New World crop the Romans had no knowledge of. Did Octavius mean "sheaves of grain"?

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +40

      Corn is a term used by historians to refer to grains in general. For example the British Corn Laws were about wheat, not the New World crop. Octavius was referring to wheat or barely

    • @trikepilot101
      @trikepilot101 Před 2 měsíci +19

      Technically "corn" means the most common grain crop of a region. In North America, it has come to mean "maise" but in formal speach, especially in the UK, it retains its older meaning.

    • @davidkottman3440
      @davidkottman3440 Před 2 měsíci +9

      So, an "ear of corn" would be a head of wheat or barley on a very short stem & unthreshed. Sheaves would refer to bundles of long straw with the unthreshed heads or ears still attached. Threshed grain would be sold by weight or volume similar to today.

    • @jarls5890
      @jarls5890 Před 2 měsíci +11

      In all of Scandinavia (as well as to some extent in German speaking countries) - the common word for all grain is "Korn"...i.e. "Corn".
      The only word ever used for "Maize" is..."Mais".

    • @davidkottman3440
      @davidkottman3440 Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@jarls5890 south America too - mais.

  • @jackhammer3423
    @jackhammer3423 Před měsícem +1

    Really enjoyed your excellent presentaion.
    Thank you

  • @DreidMusicalX
    @DreidMusicalX Před 2 měsíci +1

    It always gives me chills to think of all the lives before us that has come and gone. Lived, loved, fought, died, and that will never be here again.

  • @moriko07
    @moriko07 Před 2 měsíci +7

    It reminds me of Aurelius Polion's letter that he wrote home to Egypt, while in Pannonia.
    The letter was found in Egypt, so it reached his family, but we don't know if he managed to return home.
    Here in Italy he moved everyone, I will send this video to the Italian Scripta Manent channel, thanks for talking about it. ^_^

  • @brt5273
    @brt5273 Před 2 měsíci +12

    I wonder, since these were found in a bog, if the correspondence actually reached the recipients....

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +9

      I like to think so. They were chucked away in the same fashion that their rubbish was chucked away, in a bog with the animal bones and broken pottery

    • @sandrabailey3966
      @sandrabailey3966 Před měsícem +1

      Answer: No.

  • @missthang4982
    @missthang4982 Před 10 dny

    What an absolute honour to have these read aloud to us. Gratitude 🙏🙏♥️
    🇨🇦✌️

  • @tweezerjam
    @tweezerjam Před 2 měsíci +2

    Dude these are cool as hell. Why don’t you have more subs? I don’t get it. Subbed 👍🏼

  • @benketengu
    @benketengu Před 2 měsíci +5

    Thank you so much this is the kind of thing I like to learn about.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci

      Great, I'm glad you enjoyed it! I've got another video about Roman curse tablets you may also enjoy

  • @magnvss
    @magnvss Před 2 měsíci +18

    I'm surprised how unreadable are those letters written in whatever cursive that was used by them, like in, they have little or no apparent resemblance to the capital letters of their monuments.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +12

      Yes it is shocking at first. It's the same if you compare the this text composed for the Internet... very legible compared to most people's scruffy hand writing. Luckily some people are smart cookies and have deciphered these tablets

    • @loxodoncyclotis1823
      @loxodoncyclotis1823 Před 2 měsíci +12

      It's called Old Roman Cursive, crazy to think that most documents at the time were written in this script but so few examples of it remain

    • @maximisatwat
      @maximisatwat Před 2 měsíci +6

      But not really any different to hand-writing. Until printed text became common-place handwriting was pretty crazy up until very recently. Still is. People used to be much more used to seeing it. We have iteasy these days

    • @mt.shasta6097
      @mt.shasta6097 Před 2 měsíci +5

      ​@loxodoncyclotis1823 But we Westerners are also stymied by Arabic writing. And there are so many different middle and far Eastern forms of script! Amazing world we enjoy.

    • @kayfitzgerald309
      @kayfitzgerald309 Před 2 měsíci +2

      I listen to a podcast called "stuff you should know"(very good), where they talk alot of various subjects, but one really stuck out in my head, about Language being a "living" thing!
      Always changing...(like ppl)
      BUT...
      Still,,, we communicate 😊

  • @sonnyblu6299
    @sonnyblu6299 Před 2 měsíci +1

    This is of special interest to me! Thank you!

  • @danjelskerfving533
    @danjelskerfving533 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Really fascinating!

  • @josephc7362
    @josephc7362 Před 2 měsíci +5

    BTW. My dad served in the US Navy during WW II. Letters to and from service members overseas were microfilmed and sent as what was called V mail. These Roman soldier's letters strike me as a similar format.

  • @air_cooled_andy
    @air_cooled_andy Před 2 měsíci +3

    ‘The roads are bad’, yep some things never change 😂
    Great video!! Really interesting 👌

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci

      Thanks! Imagine if that Roman soldier saw the state of roads in Britain today 😳

  • @lisacraze1
    @lisacraze1 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Very cool. Thanks for this!

  • @hurricanekate6839
    @hurricanekate6839 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I loved this! Thank you so much. I am an unabashed history nerd and love things like this. I have always maintained that people who say they don't like history have never been taught that it's about REAL PEOPLE. (P.S., I just subscribed.)

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci

      Thanks for the sub! I also love history from real people. Archaeology is great for that

  • @ingaz6565
    @ingaz6565 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Thats a high quality and varied diet enjoyed by the roman soldiers. Most people of that time were stuck eating grains and perhaps some figs.
    But then again, they were serving the greatest empire that had ever been seen at that time.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +3

      Absolutely. Roman soldiers certainly ate better than the provincials they liked to exploit

    • @ldubt4494
      @ldubt4494 Před měsícem

      ​@@TopRomanFacts By the time of the empire, there was no exploiting anymore. That was a problem of the republican era.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před měsícem

      @ldubt4494 I'm afraid not. Plenty of Imperial examples of exploiting the locals

    • @ldubt4494
      @ldubt4494 Před měsícem

      @@TopRomanFacts in the imperial times, sense of romanness extended to all conquered, which culminated in the Edition of caracalla which gave all free inhabitants of the empire citizenship, no matter if they were egyptian, italian, or brythonic.
      Its also the reason why revolts mostly stopped happening. (Except the jews)

  • @scottpreston5074
    @scottpreston5074 Před 2 měsíci +4

    In human way they are still with us.

  • @martindunstan8043
    @martindunstan8043 Před 22 dny

    I'm late to this video and gave subscibed simpky because this was as well made as it was facinating. Great job👍

  • @jchisholm1968
    @jchisholm1968 Před 8 dny +1

    They sound like warmer & more considerate individuals than people are today.

    • @kelrogers8480
      @kelrogers8480 Před 4 dny

      Wtf! Hardly! Read up on Rome and the Romans.

  • @philipchretienkarlsson8157
    @philipchretienkarlsson8157 Před 2 měsíci +6

    These letters seem to have been written in some sort of cursive script, extremely difficult to decipher, although some of the letters resemble our modern alphabet. I recognized the letter "f" - so, a kind of stenographic script seems to have been in use as early as 200-300 AD/CE ...

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +3

      The people who decipher these scripts are truly geniuses. Reading Latin inscriptions is a walk in the park in comparison

  • @Gundus1000
    @Gundus1000 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Great. Thanks.

  • @danlines2725
    @danlines2725 Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you for your good work. Very interesting.

  • @michaelbuckley8986
    @michaelbuckley8986 Před měsícem

    Thank you for sharing this interesting content😊

  • @Gwaithmir
    @Gwaithmir Před 2 měsíci +3

    I first learned about these letters from an article in ARCHAEOLOGY.

  • @josesantini6741
    @josesantini6741 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Is great to hear what thousands years old writtens tells.Is like to enter to an open time door.

  • @davidevans3227
    @davidevans3227 Před 2 měsíci

    i've heard about these letters, voices just like ours, from so long ago,
    so it's really great to actually hear some..
    thankyou for sharing this...
    is there more? 🙂

  • @dennisjones0081
    @dennisjones0081 Před 2 měsíci

    Outstanding!!!!!! I was just teleported back in time 2000 years. And to think I hated history when I was young - now I can’t get enough. These are marvelous.

  • @randomvintagefilm273
    @randomvintagefilm273 Před 2 měsíci +6

    I would love to hear ALL the letters.

  • @abestm8
    @abestm8 Před 2 měsíci +11

    Excellent, would love to see more of this. I did like the different take on 'The Hides of March' though. 4:46 and before anyone replies, it was a joke OK, Beware the Ides lol.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +3

      Haha, I'll make a part 2 soon

    • @philipdee1415
      @philipdee1415 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Nice one!

    • @DATo_DATonian
      @DATo_DATonian Před 2 měsíci +1

      Good one !!! 😄

    • @branscombeR
      @branscombeR Před 2 měsíci +5

      For those who don't know: Wikipedia - 'The Ides of March ... is the 74th day in the Roman calendar, corresponding to 15 March.' R (Australia) Fun fact: I used to live on a farm just 20 minutes on foot from Vindolanda and got to see some of the tablets when they were first discovered ...

  • @folgore1
    @folgore1 Před 19 dny

    Neat hearing the things they discussed in letters. Also, it gives insight into how common literacy was among Romans.

  • @angelamary9493
    @angelamary9493 Před měsícem

    Amazing ! Love it

  • @TheXaminedLife
    @TheXaminedLife Před 2 měsíci +3

    Roman soldiers could read and write to each other and even to slaves. This is the first time I've heard of people in this level of society being literate. It's interesting, surprising.

    • @colinhunt4057
      @colinhunt4057 Před 2 měsíci

      Roman soldiers had to be able to read, write and count to qualify as centurions. Regardless of how short the army may have been at times of qualified NCOs, centurions and a number of other senior ranks such as tesserarri and optiones had to have the same basic skills of literacy and numeracy as a condition of rank. The Roman army was run by its NCOs who were all long-service professional serving under the eagles for up to 25 years. Hands down, the Roman army was the most experienced military the world had ever seen. Nothing else came remotely close to it, before or after. It's like would never be seen again until the 19th century in terms of professional experience of its rank and file.

    • @ldubt4494
      @ldubt4494 Před měsícem

      Roman empire had one of the highest literacy rates in pre modern times. This was not limited to the military. But it was more widespread in the cities. Proficiency though varied a lot, some might have taken their time to write and read those letters.

  • @JamesMartinelli-jr9mh
    @JamesMartinelli-jr9mh Před 2 měsíci +8

    As I am studying Latin I'd like to read the original scripts. Where could I find them?

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +9

      Go to the website in the video description. All are available there. Good luck with the Latin!

    • @berndstromberg1586
      @berndstromberg1586 Před 2 měsíci +5

      The issue with that is, it is completely different than classical Latin. There are so many words that no one even knew before the tablets were found and they had to find out what could be meant. Also they are very fragmented, so most of them have huge gaps and some only a few words.

  • @janetteveronica402
    @janetteveronica402 Před 2 měsíci

    This is so interesting, thank you

  • @tobystamps2920
    @tobystamps2920 Před měsícem

    Very interesting listening to these. The style of writing, the phrases used and such sound so much like the the epistles (letters) of the New Testament that were also written in this time period.

  • @berndstromberg1586
    @berndstromberg1586 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Great to see a video about this topic. As I have written my Bachelor Thesis on this topic, I want to add a few things:
    1. Although the Garrison of Vindolanda was part of the roman army, they were not of roman decent. In that timeframe the troops stationes there were auxilliari cohorts of the Batavians and Tungrians, which came from todays Netherlands. Even when the tablets were written in Latin, it was not their first language.
    2. 0:33 Cerialis was not a soldier, but the Prefect of the Garrison
    3. The guy that got beaten up was not a soldier, he was a merchant from overseas. It is not clear from where he came, but he was no roman citizen nor was he a Brit how he stated in his letter. He complained that he got beaten even though he was not a Brit, which implies that the Britons treated worse than other foreigners. But what is most fascinating about this letter is, that it was addressed directly to the Emporer Hadrian who resided in Vindolanda for a while, while the Hadrians wall was built. But most likely the letter never reached Hadrian, as it was found in the centurions block. It is possible that they gave him another beating for that letter.
    4. The merchant that bought 5000 moddi of ears of corn and needs money desperately could very well be the same guy that got beaten up (I forgot if it was because of the similar handwriting or because it was on the other side of the same tablet). Judging on the risky deals this guy made, it seems not impossible that a guy like that might get himself in trouble.

  • @hoosierdaddy2308
    @hoosierdaddy2308 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Very interestimg. They had the same oroblems we do today. Paying bills and makimg a livimg.. ❤

  • @NAY2GAS
    @NAY2GAS Před 2 měsíci

    That was awesome. Thank you.

  • @guns942
    @guns942 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Well spoken!

  • @yallowrosa
    @yallowrosa Před 2 měsíci +3

    were these letters written by the same "scribe" ? (the handwriting looks similar)
    Why are they grouped together? did they still have to be sent? (and were not shipped for an external event?!)

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +3

      Some tablets were written by a scribe but most were individually written, probably by the senders. They were found in similar contexts but probably were dumped with the rubbish. They therefore were already sent and read, or a discarded draft

    • @annehat4833
      @annehat4833 Před 2 měsíci

      @@TopRomanFacts your so full of it !....i can smell you from here !! ewwww

  • @misaelfraga8196
    @misaelfraga8196 Před 2 měsíci +3

    So the Romans also complained about the state of the roads. Some things never change.

  • @rayloobzer298
    @rayloobzer298 Před měsícem +1

    Thanks for this. It reminds us that even thousands of years ago, these people were no different from us.

  • @user-ig1vo1es7e
    @user-ig1vo1es7e Před 2 měsíci

    great video mate :)

  • @Itskal3
    @Itskal3 Před 2 měsíci +5

    And to think China has been using paper since 100 AD…and the Europeans only came upon it a thousand year later.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +5

      Yeah and the Romans used almost everything to write upon: bones, pottery, and scraps of wood

    • @HollyMoore-wo2mh
      @HollyMoore-wo2mh Před 2 měsíci +2

      Wood would make it from one station to another better than paper. Paper flies away much easier than wood. AND you can wrap it up and put in a package better.

    • @patrickkelly6691
      @patrickkelly6691 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Caesar used paper and it was cut and sewn into 'Codex' - early books. so they had paper over 30 years before the Republic 'fell'' .
      But it was way too expensive for 'common use' like letters. Wood would aso travel well.

    • @gabriellima7900
      @gabriellima7900 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@patrickkelly6691 Caesar used papyrus not paper.

  • @bret9741
    @bret9741 Před 2 měsíci +3

    We like to think we are smarter, more advanced and that people of the past were somehow less than ourselves.
    Rome was everything one can imagine. At times wonderful and grand, just and driving for a better life for all its citizens. On the other hand brutal and ruthless to the point of evilness only men like Stalin, Mao, Hitler have been a shadow of in modern times.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci

      Very well put 👏

    • @RAAM855
      @RAAM855 Před 2 měsíci

      Yeah I hate this common notion that our ancestors were less intelligent and backwards when they were just as smart and were only making due with what they had. It's Insulting when some people question their engineering and say stuff like aliens building the pyramids or Stonehenge

  • @weejackrussell
    @weejackrussell Před 24 dny

    I love these, it shows that human beings are very similar no matter when and where they lived.

  • @annanardo2358
    @annanardo2358 Před 29 dny +1

    Very interesting !

  • @jaykay5580
    @jaykay5580 Před 2 měsíci +3

    any letters from crispus baconus? we were old pals.

  • @Camille-cu3cb
    @Camille-cu3cb Před 2 měsíci +2

    ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT WELL DONE SUPERB ❤

  • @daveycrocket4873
    @daveycrocket4873 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Do you have more letters? Would love to hear more Very interesting

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +2

      There are plenty more. Make sure to subscribe because plenty more is on the way

  • @artyzinn7725
    @artyzinn7725 Před 2 měsíci +6

    could most romans read and write or did they use scribes? do you know how those letters were mailed and how they got to their addressee?

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +5

      It's estimated that up to 25% of the army were literate, with virtually all centurions and other higher ups being literate to complete accurate records. Some of these tablets were written by the soldiers themselves, whereas others they simply would have asked their literate friend to write it for them. The military had its own postal service. You just wrote the name of the soldier you wanted to send a letter to, where he was based, and pay a fee. It would, most often than not, show up up to a few months later. But communications between closer more central provinces was quicker

    • @artyzinn7725
      @artyzinn7725 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@TopRomanFacts amazing, writing letters is one thing but having a system empire wide to distribute them is another, just saw it on britannica, the cursus publicus. however, like other empires it was most for govt' related business so i guess for military, it was also gov't in a way. There is suggestion for personal mail it was carried by friends or slaves ... 'if you are going to X, could you take these to Y?'

  • @lisarak8639
    @lisarak8639 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Ego sum pauper agricola...

  • @john2859
    @john2859 Před 21 dnem

    Fascinating!

  • @alanfoster6589
    @alanfoster6589 Před 20 dny +1

    When decades ago I first visited the JP Getty museum in Malibu, my favorite item therein was not some massive marble statue or old master painting but rather a small bronze tablet in a back cabinet. It said, roughly, "Publius Severus Cassus (I forget the actual name): fourth legion, second maniple, third cohort, is hereby....etc. etc.
    It was an official discharge form from the Roman army, thanking the soldier in question for his service and awarding him his plot of land in (now) Italy. Suddenly 2000 years dropped away.

  • @steveoh9285
    @steveoh9285 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Imagine a future society viewing our emails:
    “Dearest They/Them,
    I went to my new job today but quit after 5 minutes because my boss asked why my hair was purple (it’s actually blue) and why was I wearing a BLM t-shirt. I filled a workplace harassment complaint and expect a large cash settlement any day now. Yesterday, I saw a toxic male in the grocery store wearing a red cardinal ball-cap and I just had to call him out as a MAGA sympathizer. He tried to distract me with some baseball talk nonsense, but of course I didn’t listen! Naturally I took a video of me screaming at him (haha) which I then posted to TikTok; it already has 31 likes (I am SO happy)! And to answer the question I KNOW is on your mind, I tipped the scales at exactly 350 pounds tonight. It must have been all the tofu and seaweed I had for lunch! Since I am gender-fluid and feeling feminine at the moment, I will sign-off as my born burden (a woman).
    Luv ‘ya!,
    Denise of the Unicorn Vale

    • @NPC-bs3pm
      @NPC-bs3pm Před 2 měsíci

      At one point in time people made a big deal out of Plato's "Atlantis"
      but now...
      Future: "What is this 'Unicorn Vale' that is spoken of? We should proceed to search the ancient ruins of this society, until we find it❗"

  • @mwj5368
    @mwj5368 Před měsícem

    Were these letters found in one lot or throughout the site? Were they stored in any type of container? Thanks for this interesting video!

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před měsícem

      Thanks for the comment! They were found spread in various dump pits at Vindolanda. It's assumed they were read and were now being discarded

    • @mwj5368
      @mwj5368 Před měsícem +1

      @@TopRomanFacts Very nice of you to respond! That's amazing they survived in dump pits. Were the pits sealed off from oxygen because of maybe mud or silt accumulation? How did they end up not disintegrating after 2,000 years?

  • @user-gp9vk8he5g
    @user-gp9vk8he5g Před 2 měsíci +1

    From that area, what history went back in 2010 what an experience, should have checked it out when I grew up. Greetings from Australia.

  • @megapangolin1093
    @megapangolin1093 Před měsícem

    Bad roads then, bad roads now, some things never change. Shame it takes more than 2000 years to get good roads. Great video.

  • @Misses-Hippy
    @Misses-Hippy Před měsícem

    Brilliant! Thank you.

  • @Heroesflorian
    @Heroesflorian Před 2 měsíci +2

    Nice one!

  • @shane1039
    @shane1039 Před 2 měsíci

    This is incredible!

  • @brettsairgent577
    @brettsairgent577 Před měsícem

    That was brilliant I could listen to those letters all day ,who would of thought we could be reading two thousand year old letters and even grocery lists amazing .

  • @AllanGildea
    @AllanGildea Před měsícem

    Wonderful, thank you.

  • @malabuha
    @malabuha Před měsícem +1

    I thought that literacy was scarce 2000 years ago, but here we have soldiers and their mothers conversing back and forth. I guess i was wrong. Fascinating

  • @alexaez2946
    @alexaez2946 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I could never wrote such a beautiful letter

  • @jessicae.s.340
    @jessicae.s.340 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Awesome😎👍

  • @momof2momof2
    @momof2momof2 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Wow!! Amazing ! I love history

  • @ModernPracticalStonemason
    @ModernPracticalStonemason Před 2 měsíci +2

    Awesome video. I’m working at the Roman army museum do you know much of magna fort?

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  Před 2 měsíci +2

      Thank you kindly. I know of the fort and love the work that's being done at the Roman Army Museum. Working in heritage is a tough industry so kudos to you 👏

    • @ModernPracticalStonemason
      @ModernPracticalStonemason Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@TopRomanFacts would you ever do a video on it? I’ve actually been building the visitors centre there are videos on my channel also if you’re interested!

  • @Bluesidian
    @Bluesidian Před měsícem

    Oh how i love the spoken words of days of old.

  • @jaddison1112
    @jaddison1112 Před 2 měsíci +1

    This is astounding. The letters make people of the ancient past so real to us, and not unlike us.

  • @mason2800
    @mason2800 Před 2 měsíci +1

    We pray, brother ✝️.