What Happens When All The Engineers Are Rich Enough To Retire?

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  • čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
  • Have you ever wondered what happens when all the engineers are rich enough to retire? Historically, this was never all that likely but with how big tech companies have been recently performing, it’s becoming the reality and making companies. The most notable example is none other than Nvidia. In fact, the average Nvidia employee is likely worth over $10 million given that Nvidia employees tend to have longer tenures and the fact that the stock has grown hundreds of fold within the past decade. So, what happens when all of these engineers decide to take it easy and retire? Well, ironically this is rarely the situation that ends up happening due to a variety of reasons. For starters, these engineers are constantly surrounded by people who are just as well off, so they never feel the need to retire when no one else has. Moreover, most of these engineers have always lived well below their means and stopped working for money alone long ago. This video explains the rise of engineering deca millionaires and why that may not matter all that much.
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    0:00 - Engineering Net Worths
    2:12 - Never Rich Enough
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Komentáře • 420

  • @Chustinasarah
    @Chustinasarah Před 4 dny +515

    I'm 54 and my wife and I are VERY worried about our future, gas and food prices rising daily. We have had our savings dwindle with the cost of living into the stratosphere, and we are finding it impossible to replace them. We can get by, but can't seem to get ahead. My condolences to anyone retiring in this crisis, 30 years nonstop just for a crooked system to take all you worked for.

    • @Spice-Maria
      @Spice-Maria Před 4 dny

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    • @Chustinasarah
      @Chustinasarah Před 4 dny

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    • @Spice-Maria
      @Spice-Maria Před 4 dny

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    • @Spice-Maria
      @Spice-Maria Před 4 dny

      You can look her up online

    • @johnpaul8394
      @johnpaul8394 Před 4 dny

      @@Spice-Maria The crazy part is that those advisors are probably outperforming the market and raising good returns but some are charging fees over fees that drain your portfolio. Is this the case with yours too?

  • @Tylerredn
    @Tylerredn Před měsícem +1103

    Well, if engineers start retiring en masse, it could have significant implications for portfolios, especially for those heavily invested in tech companies.

    • @Churchillhump2268
      @Churchillhump2268 Před měsícem +4

      Exactly. With fewer engineers actively working, there might be a slowdown in innovation and technological advancements, which could impact the growth potential of tech stocks in investment portfolios.

    • @camela8445
      @camela8445 Před měsícem

      Plus, if engineers are cashing out their stock options and retiring early, it could create volatility in the market, affecting not just tech stocks but also other sectors tied to the technology industry.

    • @Colbe-lx7fb
      @Colbe-lx7fb Před měsícem

      That's a valid concern. If the market becomes saturated with retirees selling off their assets, it could lead to downward pressure on stock prices, making it challenging for investors to maintain portfolio growth.

    • @Larry1-pl2wq
      @Larry1-pl2wq Před měsícem

      The problem is that you don't have the knowledge needed to succeed in a challenging market. Only highly qualified professionals who had to experience the 2008 financial crisis could hope to earn a high salary in these challenging conditions.

    • @Larry1-pl2wq
      @Larry1-pl2wq Před měsícem

      I tried a few in the past years, but I've been with Eric Paul Elmer for the last five years or so, and his returns have been pretty much amazing.

  • @MrWaterbugdesign
    @MrWaterbugdesign Před 2 měsíci +1200

    I worked as a software engineer in startups, 6 years at Apple. I never worked with a single engineer who cared about becoming a billionaire. We were well payed, but I main interest was in the fun. We loved what we did. I retired 22 years ago at 45. And what did I do in retirement? I wrote code 12-16 hours a day, 7 days a week. The only reason to retire was I could work on projects that would never earn billions. More freedom.
    I still write code for fun. I also slow flip houses.

    • @jacob9583
      @jacob9583 Před 2 měsíci +264

      Thats the most privileged shit ive ever heard in my life

    • @atharvakpatil
      @atharvakpatil Před 2 měsíci

      @@jacob9583 a privilege he earned, not given

    • @gaara4667
      @gaara4667 Před 2 měsíci

      @@jacob9583ikr
      Inspirational

    • @Diesel.G
      @Diesel.G Před 2 měsíci +3

      😂

    • @yesand5536
      @yesand5536 Před 2 měsíci +38

      @@jacob9583What would you do if you were in his position?

  • @anispinner
    @anispinner Před 2 měsíci +197

    - What Happens When All The Engineers Are Rich Enough To Retire?
    - Stock suddenly drops

    • @luizdevil6855
      @luizdevil6855 Před 2 měsíci +6

      As it should, you own the company, the stock represents the desire of Wall St for infinite, not of the consumers or the employees.
      Taste of reality, most people just want to do their job and have a good life and get out of the stupid rats race for infinite growth.
      I don't get why people are so angry in the comments, I get, the middle income of the middle class myth is over for most people, but not for engineers (as it should be, engineers really are like doctors, not mere peasants that just move boxes).

  • @jayplays9976
    @jayplays9976 Před 2 měsíci +132

    Engineers love the game too much to retire early. Pay them well and give them a challenge and they'll play till they can't anymore.

    • @StarnikBayley
      @StarnikBayley Před 2 měsíci +11

      most of the people who work at top companies are not true engineers by heart anymore... that is why massive tech layoffs are happening without any real effect to the tech of the company.. only about 10% of the people are doing coding out of their passion, rest are there just for money.. hr is fucked up.. how come job recrument companies even exists? pay money and get job? ridiculous

    • @junyaiwase
      @junyaiwase Před 2 měsíci +13

      @@StarnikBayleyshocker high paying profession has people only there for monetary reasons. You think people just want to be lawyers??? Lol

  • @NightSociety
    @NightSociety Před 2 měsíci +282

    This is true for pretty much any high paying occupations, for ex,) doctors and lawyers. Money isn't the issue, they refused to retire for status, ego, chief, well-known name etc..

    • @nsshing
      @nsshing Před 2 měsíci +5

      You can say that is meaning of life that cannot be purchased/ valued with money. I kinda get that feeling finally having my first OK business. Now I would rather choose projects that have meaning to me more than how much more money I can make from.

    • @SniperPIKACHU
      @SniperPIKACHU Před 2 měsíci +3

      and fun, enjoyment of working in new things? Do you think engineers have friends and family to show off their status to? I as an engineer rarely speak to anyone outside work. I stay at home 100% of the time when I am not working. The guy at the grocery store has no idea what I do for a living. You don't live for others, you live for yourself.

    • @xc5103
      @xc5103 Před měsícem +1

      More like lifestyle creep. They can't stop working because they've amassed such high debts, thinking they can service said debts.

    • @yeetboi268
      @yeetboi268 Před 29 dny +2

      lol, no. I work in NVIDIA, everyone is lazing around.

    • @02nupe
      @02nupe Před 24 dny

      @@xc5103 that can also be a factor for some, the truth is somewhere in the middle as the original comment has a point as well.

  • @swaggery
    @swaggery Před 2 měsíci +102

    The question in itself is redundant. If retirement was a priority, they would have done it well before they were "rich enough". Maybe stick around 3-5 years for a wealth buffer. But for those that retire with that in mind the company won't notice as that would just be the cost of doing business.

  • @polymathx_
    @polymathx_ Před 2 měsíci +236

    Nividia ceo is the new taylor swift 😆😆

    • @mikejohnstonbob935
      @mikejohnstonbob935 Před 2 měsíci +18

      CEO worship is gross. I'm not exactly a Swifty, but Taylor Swift's contribution to the local GDP spike wherever she goes for concerts is based less on speculation than Jensen's contribution to the NVIDIA stock spike. I mean the whole AI bubble is based on speculation.

    • @vzuzukin
      @vzuzukin Před 2 měsíci +8

      Jensen is the new Steve Jobs

    • @canesugar911
      @canesugar911 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Taylor Swift make tangible contributions to the economy.

    • @rifkgun3147
      @rifkgun3147 Před 2 měsíci +9

      taylor swift worship is gross to

    • @noahlebaron1957
      @noahlebaron1957 Před 2 měsíci +2

      He better than Steve Jobs. At least Nvidia will have a bigger impact. ​@vzuzukin

  • @trumpetbob15
    @trumpetbob15 Před 2 měsíci +72

    I'd say there is probably a bonus reason you didn't mention: they actually enjoy their jobs! While they are in the rat race, I'm sure they aren't quite in the same one us "normies" are in. Give the rest of us the chance to retire and we'll take it in a heartbeat. Yeah, sure, I could blow $10 million dollars (look at all the sad story lottery winners), but I could also know I personally could retire right now if someone gave me $10 million. I don't need to double or triple or 10x my money; I just need a smart investment strategy and the intelligence to get away from all the people who would make me feel guilty for retiring with "only" $10 million. I could make the funds last until I die and would get out of the horrible job I'm in - which would make my life 10x better instead. Could these folks say the same? From what you said in the video, I'm not sure and that is the difference.

    • @the-fantabulous-g
      @the-fantabulous-g Před 2 měsíci

      Look up the FIRE movement, it has a lot of tech people in it, but is absolutely possible for all walks of life. I hope you find what you’re looking for

    • @SmegmaDaddyXL
      @SmegmaDaddyXL Před 2 měsíci +6

      Yeah, even among tech workers for people who are like genuinely interested in computer science topics the kind of work being done at nvidia makes it the dream job working with low level optimizations instead of having to sit in a room and try to explain to non technical shareholders why npm builds shit the bed every other day in their shit heap monolith of a web app that's been accruing tech debt for a decade.

    • @methos-ey9nf
      @methos-ey9nf Před 2 měsíci +2

      True, but I think that fits in with the "prestige" and "sport" aspect of the video. Enjoying one's work is often times because of the "mission" and the bragging rights to say they worked on [fill in the blank]. Funny thing is just have to look at jobs that don't pay all that well in comparison - like a lot of career military aren't doing what they do because they're going to be so wealthy...

    • @positiveslip
      @positiveslip Před 26 dny

      $10 mill is enough to just hold etfs and live on dividends. Anyone who want to live - it is good time to start, because next will be a collapse of services (wages going down, rent going up) and what point of money when you can't buy a good service because there is no smart people in service any more.

  • @JamesHoss-hr1jq
    @JamesHoss-hr1jq Před 2 měsíci +181

    $400 a month for groceries definitely on the low end… I have a bodybuilder friend who works in SF and the same diet he had in Pennsylvania for $300 a month is $600 a month in SF… Just for one person…

    • @nerios.v
      @nerios.v Před 2 měsíci +5

      My groceries in Greenwich CT for a family of 4 are $2800...

    • @KenjiEspresso
      @KenjiEspresso Před 2 měsíci

      5,000 a month to feed my lard ass

    • @Skystrike70
      @Skystrike70 Před 2 měsíci +4

      ok yall are getting some real high tier groceries or smtn then cause I live on like 150/mo actual food + snacks

    • @Skystrike70
      @Skystrike70 Před 2 měsíci

      wtf how much is a loaf of bread there@@nerios.v

    • @michaelprestoy6838
      @michaelprestoy6838 Před 2 měsíci +1

      agreed here. Maybe they are shopping at Wholefoods and paying 6-7 dollars for chicken breast or something. I am honestly still surprised how affordable eating can be if you want it to be.

  • @nosteinnogate7305
    @nosteinnogate7305 Před 2 měsíci +15

    I have tremendous respect for everyone being good at a very niche thing. You are very good at making these kind of videos.

  • @nerd26373
    @nerd26373 Před 2 měsíci +49

    We appreciate your dedication and hard work. Keep working hard.

  • @MrMagnaFarce
    @MrMagnaFarce Před 2 měsíci +6

    I was born and raised in San Jose around all the tech companies and had a father who worked in software development (pre-google era). We definitely weren't rich, but very comfortable. I knew people who worked for Apple, Roku, Google, and Adobe over the years and they all lived comfortably in either modest houses or rented townhouses. Other people I knew who worked as general contractors lived similar lifestyles. Tech was a middle class career when I lived there (moved several years ago). The only people in the area who really 'made it' had been there for decades with property which had appreciated in value who then sold and moved to a cheaper place.

  • @Nova2Yung
    @Nova2Yung Před 2 měsíci +7

    your videos are super clean and informative, thank you so much, i look forward to more

  • @Cyber_Chriis
    @Cyber_Chriis Před 26 dny

    Man, I just love the way you talk.
    It’s so pleasant to listen to your vids :)

  • @HarvestStore
    @HarvestStore Před 2 měsíci

    Great video.

  • @rohitranjan144
    @rohitranjan144 Před 2 měsíci

    the background sound during chapter change is soo good in this video. spacial sound effect is great, not sure if its due to my sony earbuds or the quality of music is soo good. keep. it up

  • @Nunya-ry4kd
    @Nunya-ry4kd Před 2 měsíci +3

    Hey great video. Just one thing I'm not sure I agree with. At the end you said the employees' best bet to keep their wealth is to hold on to their nvidia stock but this seems like it wouldn't be the case. Keeping everything in one stock is notoriously risky as their is no guarantee nvidia stock won't lose its value in the future. Seems the much safer thing for them to do to retain all that wealth would be to exchange nvidia stock for index funds as it greatly reduces the risk. At that level of wealth they could probably invest in private equity or VC funds if they want to further diversify. Just seems like keeping all their wealth in one single stock likely wouldn't be the best way to keep it. But I did really enjoy the video (and the videos you make in general).

  • @vooteimer1234
    @vooteimer1234 Před 2 měsíci +117

    400 bucks a month for groceries? So they shop at Aldis?

  • @Nutrisof
    @Nutrisof Před 2 měsíci +19

    Great as always!
    It's similar to Renaissance Technologies, their employees are so rich to retire that they don't even want to.
    Would love to see a video about it :)

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Před 2 měsíci +4

      Thanks for the suggestion man!

    • @Nutrisof
      @Nutrisof Před 2 měsíci +4

      ​@@LogicallyAnswered My pleasure! Renaissance is a tech company that happens to be a hedge fund. And not enough content is made about them :'(

    • @shubhamdhapola5447
      @shubhamdhapola5447 Před měsícem

      Jim Simons has really hit it out the park with m&m's - math and money!

    • @KevinN44
      @KevinN44 Před 27 dny

      RIP Jim Simons. One of the best to ever do it.

  • @Alexibawendi
    @Alexibawendi Před měsícem +83

    As a newbie that wants to invest, you must have these three things in mind
    1. Have a long term mindset.
    2. Be willing to take risk.
    3. Be careful on money usage, if you're not spending to earn back, then stop spending.
    4. Never claim to know - Ask questions and it's best you work with a financial advisor.

    • @PhilCraig-vx3up
      @PhilCraig-vx3up Před měsícem

      I'm favoured financially, Thank you Jesus $32,000 weekly profit regardless of how bad it gets on the economy.

    • @KaterinaEvan159
      @KaterinaEvan159 Před měsícem +1

      How
      ..? Am a newbie in crypto investment, please can you guide me through on how you made profit?

    • @PhilCraig-vx3up
      @PhilCraig-vx3up Před měsícem

      Thanks to Mrs Maria Davis.

    • @PhilCraig-vx3up
      @PhilCraig-vx3up Před měsícem

      She's a licensed broker here in the states

    • @Alexibawendi
      @Alexibawendi Před měsícem

      YES!!! That's exactly her name (Maria Davis) so many people have recommended highly about her and am just starting with her 😊 from Brisbane Australia🇦🇺

  • @danielvasquez3758
    @danielvasquez3758 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Great video brother thank you!!

  • @cuebal
    @cuebal Před 2 měsíci +26

    Anyone who hired a financial consultant would have diversified their massive Nvidia positions

    • @samatar1025
      @samatar1025 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Like Bill Gates did .

    • @rogergeyer9851
      @rogergeyer9851 Před 2 měsíci

      Not if they think their NVDA stock will grow massively compared to a diversified portfolio.
      Look what happened to Enron, for example.
      I quit buying IBM stock as an IBMer because IBM became a MUCH worse company, not primarily to diversify.

    • @samatar1025
      @samatar1025 Před 2 měsíci

      @@rogergeyer9851 any fool can make a fortune but only a smart man can keep it .

  • @ryanhamstra49
    @ryanhamstra49 Před 2 měsíci +12

    Then there will be a need for engineers and there will be more people going to college for engineering and they will get the jobs. It’s supply and demand. Hint to any high school kids out there, look at the places hiring and get that degree. Engineers are super important, trades are easier to get into and are severely under staffed. Depending on location you can pretty easily make $75-100k as an electrician or plumber after you are a journeyman. And with no student loan debt. Engineering takes debt but will get paid off quickly if you aren’t a buffoon with your $150k a year salary.

    • @me-myself-i787
      @me-myself-i787 Před 2 měsíci +6

      "Look for the positions that are hiring and pursue those degrees"
      Degrees take 4 years. By that time, the positions will be filled or the company will have given up.

  • @balpreetsingh6834
    @balpreetsingh6834 Před 2 měsíci

    Great video as always

  • @user-pn8dq6vt4s
    @user-pn8dq6vt4s Před 2 měsíci +6

    I’m an engineer with enough to retire (though less than the amounts discussed here) and it’s really difficult, honestly.

  • @Okmanl
    @Okmanl Před 2 měsíci +8

    Assuming they held onto their stock.
    Most people don’t hold onto a single company for very long. They’ll sell as soon as it becomes a big percentage of their portfolio or sell as soon as it drops, as they can’t psychologically handle the volatility of owning a single company nor can they handle anything greater than $100k riding on the success or failure of a single company.
    Btw Nvidia had several near-death experiences during its lifetime.
    If you were given $200k worth of stock of a 5-10 billion dollar company, that came close to death on 3 separate occasions, would you honestly hold onto it in hopes that it’ll become a 2 trillion dollar company?
    Hence why people rarely beat the market.
    As for RSUs, from my experience the vast majority of engineers or professionals typically sell and diversify as soon as they get their RSUs.

    • @midgetsanchez
      @midgetsanchez Před 2 měsíci +1

      Exactly - it’s foolish to have all your retirement in a single stock, especially if you already depend on that company for a salary.

  • @apc9714
    @apc9714 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Happy for your friend : )

  • @progpogs
    @progpogs Před 2 měsíci +5

    Nvidia didn't pay that much relative to other tech companies, and hardware/firmware eng are making less than software eng on average, and they are located primarily in California. I would be surprised if most people retained half of their original grants. They are likely kicking themselves today.

  • @BenoitStPierre
    @BenoitStPierre Před 2 měsíci +36

    "I bet there's a lot of Nvidia engineers who sold more stock than they needed to for one reason or another, and they probably get made fun of by their friends for throwing away a $20M opportunity." Absolutely not. The reason is diversification, and you get made fun of for /not/ selling your stock as you get it. You already have the vast majority of your income tied to one company, and you get more RSUs granted each year if your performance is adequate. Prior to, and even during the run up, cost averaging your selling is the smart move. This is true for all the major tech companies. Your understanding of RSUs and how employees make use of them is deeply flawed. Your math at the beginning is also rife with incorrect assumptions.
    Source: I have 14 years experience at these tech companies and have been getting RSUs my whole career from FANG+ companies.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Really depends on the given engineer's mindset. Diversifying is definitely the safer move financially, but a lot of engineers don't go down that path. This is especially true as you work up the hierarchy at these companies. Steve Ballmer, for example, is about to overtake Bill Gates simply because Bill diversified and Steve didn't.

    • @BenoitStPierre
      @BenoitStPierre Před 2 měsíci +7

      @@LogicallyAnswered There are *much* fewer executive-level people, and their compensation is skewed even further to be almost entirely equity-based. The average engineer (which is what the video was purported to be about) typically gets grants that are around their salary (new-grad to senior), once you get to staff engineer and higher, you then start to make a fair bit more in equity, and in my experience, it's not until principal or distinguished that people start to really avoid divesting and diversifying away.
      Overall, this video was just poorly researched and clearly shows a lack of understanding of the mindset that actual engineers have at these companies. Videos from other CZcamsrs that have actually been employed at these companies have much more nuance and are actually based in reality.

    • @Quantris
      @Quantris Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@LogicallyAnswered "a lot of engineers don't go down that path" what is this statement based on? anecdotes?

  • @csachen3823
    @csachen3823 Před 2 měsíci +43

    "They don't feel rich from a psychological perspective. Everyone they interact with on a daily basis is just as stacked."
    If 100% of your friends are multi-millionaire tech employees, you really need to get out more and meet other people.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Před 2 měsíci +4

      😂

    • @richhobo1216
      @richhobo1216 Před 2 měsíci +4

      well tbf, it's silicon valley; that's like the entire population

    • @alexanderwu
      @alexanderwu Před 2 měsíci

      There definitely are lower class people around but it's totally possible that almost everyone you meet outside work is also in tech

  • @ChengVincentckf
    @ChengVincentckf Před 27 dny

    423 dollar per month grocery bill is very similar to what we are paying in Hong Kong. The 2 million 3 bedroom house in SF looks much more spacious than the 2, million 3 bathroom condos in Hong Kong, which is usually around 80 to 120 m²

  • @brosch91
    @brosch91 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Thats crazy that you can be a millionaire in San Francisco and still not have enough money to retire comfortably. If that isnt a sign of how bad the cost of living has gotten in California, I don't know what is

  • @whyriceofficial
    @whyriceofficial Před 2 měsíci +1

    Huge overestimate on the stock IMO, also numbers are heavily skewed towards exec/senior engineers. A lot of people are newer joiners, and a lot of people quit, they don't catch the full growth of stock like that

  • @Thumper68
    @Thumper68 Před 2 měsíci +1

    You can still buy huge houses in central Texas for 3-600k

  • @JC-od3tg
    @JC-od3tg Před měsícem

    To answer the question in the title, make the threshold for entry level positions lower. Lots of people have the skills but don't have a 4 year degree and they don't get considered for entry level positions.

  • @doujinflip
    @doujinflip Před 2 měsíci +4

    The feeling of wealth is not truly based on your real buying power, but your buying power relative to the community you identify with. Hence why a US Dollar millionaire in Bali or Chiang Mai feels way richer than one in SF or NYC.
    We feel poorer nowadays partially because social media has made the "community" we're keeping track of beyond that which were physically in, so we're comparing our economic success against the likes of Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos instead of capping our expectations at the family with the "big house" in our neighborhood.

  • @ripplecutter233
    @ripplecutter233 Před 2 měsíci +10

    Me only having started my career in my early 30s: 😢

  • @lawsilt9309
    @lawsilt9309 Před 2 měsíci

    Can you make a video about the economics of kick. I want to know how they're making money and paying their creators a lot with no ads

  • @SilentEire
    @SilentEire Před 2 měsíci +19

    Genuine question: How tf does a Barista get by in places like San Jose and Cupertino? 😵‍💫

    • @jonasbaine3538
      @jonasbaine3538 Před 2 měsíci +17

      Lots of roommates. Ridiculously long commute.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Před 2 měsíci +7

      Sounds like a nightmare

    • @Thumper68
      @Thumper68 Před 2 měsíci

      They don’t. Anyone who lives in the large cities are fools imo especially California.

    • @mamotalemankoe3775
      @mamotalemankoe3775 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Have had this exact question many times. I would love a video showing a week of living like that.

  • @centuriomacro9787
    @centuriomacro9787 Před 2 měsíci

    All the highly skilled engineers I know actually love their job. That’s their main motivation, money is secondary motivation.

  • @Sora_Nai
    @Sora_Nai Před 2 měsíci +16

    I was working for Microsoft in the early 10s and late 2000s. Microsoft was buyout companies left and right and moving more and more into a main company that parented other smaller companies. This time period was short around 6 years when now Microsoft barely creates anything meaningful. I was making a good amount of money in stock alone I had 2million, and I was still 35. Many other engineers were in the same position, so while Microsoft was buying up startups, we thought about going to management to pitch an idea and create a start-up but within the company itself. They agreed and we became intrepreneurs. From then on a lot of other senior engineers were starting internal startups, we had the team and mobility of a startup but with the backing of a big company. We made a lot of progress, though it didn't last and the company cut all our budgets since they rather just buy already made startups. A lot of us left the company and continue on our own, but it was hard to get financing since a lot of what we did was in the research phase still.

  • @odin6108
    @odin6108 Před 2 měsíci +55

    When all the engineers are rich enough to retire, AI, created by them, will replace em' and those who study Engineering now will have wasted their time 💀

    • @apricotcomputers3943
      @apricotcomputers3943 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yikess

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Před 2 měsíci +13

      We’ll see hahaha

    • @roar
      @roar Před 2 měsíci +1

      That makes no sense, we'll always need engineers

    • @shaheryarhabib5865
      @shaheryarhabib5865 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@roaryea but not thay many

    • @Brodragon2225
      @Brodragon2225 Před měsícem

      @@roar mostly non coders as ai will have mind of thousand of good developers.Only one man can do 1000 of developers work with ai at scale.So yeah don't study cs engineering go to the core branches or physics chem maths

  • @jesse2667
    @jesse2667 Před 2 měsíci

    0:55 "And that is being conservative" Those are heavy assumptions. You can only do that when you are living within your means and ignoring about half of your compensation, not tapping it to buy a house, etc, etc.
    If you are paycheck to paycheck and pay off your debts, you could be closer to the more recent years accumulating some stock, which would be a shorter time frame.

  • @84bombsjetpack23
    @84bombsjetpack23 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Should all CEOs retire because they are all rich enough to retire?

  • @pieror.pinatelli1341
    @pieror.pinatelli1341 Před měsícem

    The same thing happen at credit karma when it first started, eventually new engineers coming in and it goes back to normal

  • @rocketscience777999
    @rocketscience777999 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Nvidia is a great company with a great CEO, but the stock is going to come crashing down at some point in the future after people figure out how to make AI chips cheaper and cheaper or a better technology comes along. Depending on how the stock compensation plan is set up, employees may not be able to sell their shares unless they quit the company. If you stay at Nvidia and watch the stock lose 75% of its value, you end up being a middle class engineer living in an expensive area with an average-sized house thats vastly over priced and in an over-staxed state. The only way you could retire comfortably would be to sell your house and go to a less expensive area, but you will be doing it with Nvidia stock being worth a lot less. In life you need to do things while you can rather than when you have to. I say retire now and move to a lower cost location and wait until NVDA stock peaks before you sell it. Then start your own company, go skiiing every day, or do whatever you want just like I'm doing now as I sit here and write this comment. The total number of times I regretted quiting my job is zero.

    • @derek8149
      @derek8149 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Agreed. These guys are smart enough to know that they hit the jackpot with their stock bonuses. The chances of them multiplying it again by that magnitude is low. They should cash in right now (or at least risk manage by cashing in part of their stocks) and continue working there or somewhere else if they wish. I’d sell the majority of my shares, pay my taxes, put a portion into safer income generating assets such as treasuries and real estate, and go into semi retirement because I know I can’t fully stop working if I’m still physically able. Then once the market crashes, I’ll DCA my cash portion and buy up a bunch of properties for cheap. Then my family will be set for generations.

  • @biratkhanal7416
    @biratkhanal7416 Před měsícem

    How can you bluntly multiply the total stock bonus by 200? Only the bonus before a decade would be 200x, not the recent ones.

  • @seclife321
    @seclife321 Před měsícem +1

    I worked in HR for several big tech companies. Software engineers are usually 30 when they reach multi-millionaire net worth. So, if it was you and you retire, what are you going to do for the next 50-70 years? Golf, beach, etc is going to get old after a decade and you would have wasted some of the most productive years of your life. Most engineers just take a long vacation every 2 month and keep earning millions. They only "retire" to do startups. This makes perfect sense to me. It's not like you have the option of working when you're 65+, so why retire early and give up the opportunities of youth?

    • @Naomi-xu4hq
      @Naomi-xu4hq Před 28 dny

      I don’t understand how does the average software engineer who makes $110K have a multi-millionaire net worth after 7 years of working?

  • @martonlerant5672
    @martonlerant5672 Před 2 měsíci +2

    ...people who become engineers, do it because they want to and like their job?
    ...they might even want to keep on doing it?
    Who would have guessed?

  • @josepires3497
    @josepires3497 Před měsícem

    I'm an engineer who "retired" early. Retirement only means that you now own your time. You then discover that in life there are only two stages: you're either growing or you're dying. If your organization gives you the freedom to pursue your craft, and align your purpose with the work that you do, you may choose to stay. In fact, today, I help cross-industry leaders and organizations create systems where individual and organizational purposes align, and professionals have the freedom to choose and do great work. Again, we're either growing or dying. Where does retirement fit? Choose growth. ❤

  • @johnmwengr6874
    @johnmwengr6874 Před 21 dnem

    This video is absolutely accurate, 100%. Leading engineers don't quit. The unremarkable engineers do quit and do something else, like flip homes, travel vlog, something else.

  • @keithwisdom1663
    @keithwisdom1663 Před 2 měsíci

    will the corp suffer when all the solid employees leave.??????

  • @ChineseWinnie
    @ChineseWinnie Před 2 měsíci +3

    Man said he was a multi millionaire and still saw himself as middle class..... Lmao bro is filthy rich

  • @PO-nb8qc
    @PO-nb8qc Před 2 měsíci

    If I had 10M,I would retire to do what I love. As an engineer works in semiconductor Fab, 10M net worth is very difficult compared to software engineers and the life is harder (24x7 on call usually, working in production has very high pressure).
    We don’t have such high compensation as software engineers since our profit margin is much lower than software (The overhead is very high. It costs billions to build a fab). Most Fab jobs suck. I regret to choose this career.
    I hope my portfolio will grow to 10M+ in 10 years, retire and do what I love.

    • @spralwers
      @spralwers Před 2 měsíci +2

      Yeah it's just an unfortunate aspect of how our society works. The people at the lower levels of abstraction, manufacturers and hardware designers, work the hardest in terms of effort and designing. People at the higher levels of abstraction, like corporate executives, product managers, and even software engineers, get by far the highest pay while doing much easier work. I could have been a "real" engineer, doing design work that is directly linked to physics. But instead I went into software engineering because it's easier, pays better, and has much more flexibility in terms of job opportunities. And it looks like that aspect of society isn't changing anytime soon. I hope you get to retire in your timeframe.

  • @JesbaamSanchez
    @JesbaamSanchez Před měsícem

    If there are employees staying in the company for anlong time it means the company is treating them well in any means or metrics

  • @ryanshuell
    @ryanshuell Před měsícem

    The key to wealth, is being satisfied with what you already have. If you want to double your perceived worth, simply half your personal financial expectations. Love what you do. Enjoy your time here. One day it will all be over.

  • @timr.2257
    @timr.2257 Před 2 měsíci +7

    So why am I not hearing a bunch of comp sci students dreaming to get into Nvidia yet? 😅

    • @martonlerant5672
      @martonlerant5672 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Nah you aint.
      Most people who go into engineering dont do it due to money being their main motivator.
      People at Nvidia earn that much due to being into a weird perverted arcane niche that most people dont like joing - even among those who know how to do it.
      Similar situation exist with aerodynmics. It pays very well, but compared to dealing with rigid objects people lile doing it waaaay less.

    • @chi6168
      @chi6168 Před měsícem

      No most people work for who pay the most, that’s why FAANG are top tier.

  • @bahatig562
    @bahatig562 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Quite simple, the layoff culture was the doing of CEOs and Wallstreet in their greed. Exarcebated shortages will be the response after properly good engineers are rich enough to retire. They will demand higher salaries, coast more and viola the layoffs will have backfired.
    Treat people humanely and you win their loyalty. Companies forgot the value of this. I would stick to a company that compensates me fairly even when I dont need to. The PSEs, pips and all these BS will come to backfire very soon.

  • @TheBlackManMythLegend
    @TheBlackManMythLegend Před 2 měsíci +1

    money is not everything I really like coding and creating stuff and if I was a hardware guys I guess I would love designing and shaping and solving problem as well.

  • @the_analyst0
    @the_analyst0 Před 2 měsíci

    Employees rarely keep a lot of equity in the company they're working. If they did and something happened to the company they would both lose the job and their equity

  • @kevinvarghese9919
    @kevinvarghese9919 Před 2 měsíci

    they are sticking around to get richer.. "its just the beginning" is whats keeping them working..

  • @BaardFigur
    @BaardFigur Před 2 měsíci

    A gallon = 3,75 litres. 5$ for that much petrol is dirt cheap by norwegian standards

  • @AnonymousAccount514
    @AnonymousAccount514 Před 2 měsíci +4

    im surprised Dell didnt just stay retired and let the company fail....they still to this day are not as big as they were...is all the work worth it?

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Před 2 měsíci +3

      Well, he’s a lot richer today hahaha

    • @AnonymousAccount514
      @AnonymousAccount514 Před 2 měsíci

      @@LogicallyAnswered is that because of the stock buybacks?

    • @anushagr14
      @anushagr14 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@AnonymousAccount514because he owns a lot more shares

  • @pradeepmagan6951
    @pradeepmagan6951 Před 2 měsíci

    Most would get bored and keep working or start new businesses

  • @TrueTechLead
    @TrueTechLead Před měsícem

    Many people sell stocks the moment they get them

  • @connerwilliams668
    @connerwilliams668 Před 2 měsíci

    Honestly I'm so scared of the stock market crashing

  • @andrewdawson248
    @andrewdawson248 Před 2 měsíci

    Can confirm, my net is 0.1% for my age and I'm still working because I like to contribute

  • @callibor3119
    @callibor3119 Před měsícem

    People need to stop thinking about the money and what was already pressure for the worker to begin with.
    We are all not treated equally as is so making spaces for people to feel equal is the utmost important and not bringing them down because of their profits. People need to start seeing themselves in the exact situation and not “I can do anything better than the next person.”
    We have to strategize how to care for ourselves and others the similar to how our families have treated us and if not all were fortunate to have those moments earlier in their lives, now is the time to show that they are to see that the world can actually be way more better than this.

  • @Entropy67
    @Entropy67 Před 2 měsíci

    I'm a for fun software engineer/security researcher at a nice place in Canada, everyone seems to think I should go to silicon valley lmfao, I don't really want to... I'll just make my own company here instead of wasting my money on just being alive in SF

  • @benjamineprg4249
    @benjamineprg4249 Před 2 měsíci +8

    That's a pretty heavy duty question 😂,

    • @gabrielbruhnr
      @gabrielbruhnr Před 2 měsíci

      The real question is how they got rich in the first place, from a personal angle I'm aware continuing to invest in periods of higher volatility is a Smart way to build wealth.

    • @gabrielbruhnr
      @gabrielbruhnr Před 2 měsíci

      You need to get a financial planner or expert on investments to aid diversify your portfolio to commodities index funds, digital assets etc, to provide illumination and guidance in the financial markets. That's one of many proven methods

    • @valeriejeanmathis874
      @valeriejeanmathis874 Před 2 měsíci

      Indeed, Shannon Saccocia, Chief Investment Officer at SVB Private, recommends that investors refrain from making big changes to their portfolios without consulting a financial planner and try to stick with their long-term financial plan.

    • @valeriejeanmathis874
      @valeriejeanmathis874 Před 2 měsíci

      Most people miss it but the secret to retiring comfortably is finding a way to make returns while your money works for you.

    • @gregorridavichko
      @gregorridavichko Před 2 měsíci

      in my case Nathan Travis Cook has assisted me in doing that effectively, I'm not an expert so I lack experience in investment strategies, I work and my consultant handles the rest.

  • @Luissierra12373
    @Luissierra12373 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I'd retiring or working less in 8 years, and considering this financial recession, Im deciding to begin taking up skilled trades. I'm curious to know best how people split their pay, how much of it goes into savings, spendings or investments, I earn around $120K per year but nothing to show for it yet.>

    • @Layanalisa
      @Layanalisa Před 2 měsíci

      You should contribute to your retirement diligently, or better still look into financial planning don't come to youtube for advise, consult a Local or trusted online broker/ planner

    • @Luissierra12373
      @Luissierra12373 Před 2 měsíci

      This is huge! would love to grow my reserve regardless of the economy situation, my 407k has lost everything accrued since early 2019, at this point, i'm in need of guidance, can you point me?

  • @fotisxevgenis
    @fotisxevgenis Před 26 dny

    who not hedge their NVDA stock by selling half and bying the S&P 500 that way their are covered if it tanks for some reason in the future?

  • @vladusa
    @vladusa Před měsícem +1

    Uh. Simple answer: market easement

  • @Blessed_2_Be_Born_In_America
    @Blessed_2_Be_Born_In_America Před 2 měsíci +2

    "Clueless athletes" that's so right, way to speak the truth. I love it

  • @bree9691
    @bree9691 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Even the Janitor at
    Nvidia is a millionaire

    • @PO-nb8qc
      @PO-nb8qc Před 2 měsíci

      The early Google chef is worth tens of millions. Google it!

    • @jose-lael
      @jose-lael Před 2 měsíci +1

      Typically support staff are contractors.

  • @Erowens98
    @Erowens98 Před 18 dny

    "you're not rich in silicon Valley" doesn't really make much sense in retirement terms. If you're not working nothing is tying you to that cost of living.

  • @ivanengel8887
    @ivanengel8887 Před 2 měsíci +2

    For a channel that prizes itself on giving "logical" answers the title was standard click-bait.

  • @user-kg1od9es5d
    @user-kg1od9es5d Před 2 měsíci +20

    10million doesnt get you far in SF.

    • @apricotcomputers3943
      @apricotcomputers3943 Před 2 měsíci +1

      😂

    • @gabrielgarcia7554
      @gabrielgarcia7554 Před 2 měsíci +3

      It’s not that bad in the Bay Area lol.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Před 2 měsíci +6

      😂

    • @nelsonw.9483
      @nelsonw.9483 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Maybe if the 10 million is in cold hard cash that depreciates every year, then it probably won't But a 10 million nest egg that compounds 10% every year? It should last generations.

    • @HUEHUEUHEPony
      @HUEHUEUHEPony Před 2 měsíci

      @@nelsonw.9483 where u get that 10% dude

  • @jose-lael
    @jose-lael Před 2 měsíci +1

    Damn, I passed on Nvidia for Apple when I left Intel.

  • @kurtloban3664
    @kurtloban3664 Před 2 měsíci +1

    90%+ of these guys with tens of millions will have all that money blown by the third generation. That's the stat on these things.

  • @OKmoomer
    @OKmoomer Před dnem

    As of right now, NVIDIA has job openings in over 20 countries, including roughly 250 combined job openings in India and Israel alone. There's also, of course, the Taiwan facilities. With this said, there should be plenty of opportunities to work for NVIDIA somewhere else outside of Silicon Valley and the rat race that is living in California. Personally, I wouldn't be a fan of living in a state of 35+ million people when there's a water crisis there to begin with.

  • @infini.tesimo
    @infini.tesimo Před 2 měsíci

    Nah they are ridiculously rich and even with the taxes there are ways for them to make passive income on the side to add into that and those can be structured through offshote businesses and foreign trusts so they actually gain more. Don't be fooled, they can do quite a bit on their salary and then some. Take a look at even a 'lowly' position for a start-up in Silicon Valley and they on average pay more than you would ever be seen locally for a remote position to start off.

  • @positiveslip
    @positiveslip Před 26 dny

    Believe me, there is much more fun in life than writing a code. Especially now, when the world needs some impact from adequate people to not go south in upcoming years.

  • @2rx_bni
    @2rx_bni Před měsícem

    $5 is the low end of fuel here btw. We are currently at an average of $5.50

  • @mathemat3939
    @mathemat3939 Před měsícem +1

    I am worth more than what you stated and I feel poor still. I made most of my money selling my RSUS and buying options. I feel I need 250 million + to feel wealthy. I dont want to move to a lower cost of living area because I am Asian and the middle of nowhere USA is hella racist.

  • @TalesOfTrillions
    @TalesOfTrillions Před měsícem

    The ultimate Silicon Valley problem: too much money, not enough meaning.

  • @user-xr3rb6pn9m
    @user-xr3rb6pn9m Před 2 měsíci +1

    I always thought that the only reason you would ever want to earn “proper” money was to be able to say “f*** you!” at your boss’ face. Apparently, it’s not at all about how much money you earn.

  • @nsshing
    @nsshing Před 2 měsíci

    Nvdia deserves our respect because hardware RND is pain in the ass.

  • @positiveslip
    @positiveslip Před 26 dny

    You know, in the end your work is just a work, until you have your own business. If you didn't convert your opportunities into dids now, you may find it hard later.

  • @HunterKowald
    @HunterKowald Před měsícem +1

    Damn I’m so broke

  • @willg3220
    @willg3220 Před 2 měsíci +11

    Rich people don't retire you silly goose. They just keep getting richer. Don't want more than enough money, want all the money

    • @TheRubsi
      @TheRubsi Před 2 měsíci +1

      Part of that is true, but if you are already rich and are involved in creating the best gpus that have ever existed in history, then this is also kind of fun and cool. Especially if you get paid insane amounts of money for it. So why would people retire from that?
      Watching bad netflix shows and playing skyrim isn't really that exciting.

  • @sofianikiforova7790
    @sofianikiforova7790 Před 2 měsíci

    And they decided to diamond hands their stock instead of cashing out and were disciplined to continue to hold with all the ups and downs along the way…
    Yeah nobody did that.

  • @smetljesm2276
    @smetljesm2276 Před 2 měsíci

    Companies have dug themselves into a hole.
    That's what happens when you don't have owners in a company but varios funds and managers ...
    China and russia even EU have a much more sustainable compensation.
    One that actually keeps employees needing to work to survive not just greed for more

  • @tm7517
    @tm7517 Před 14 dny

    People have a wild understanding of federal income taxes. I made over $175,000 last year my wife made over $12,000. We were about $190,000 combined household income. We don’t have any dependents. We do own a house. But our federal income tax burden was like $24,000. To get to $100,000 federal tax income burden my household income would have to be astronomically higher than $190,000. This person’s claimed perception of their level of wealth is extremely wrong and distorted.

  • @binaakene7942
    @binaakene7942 Před 2 měsíci +1

    😂😂 it’s how there’s people gassing it up talking about people work in multi billion dollar companies for “passion”. Let’s be honest a vast majority of people just don’t want to be out on the street and if they had a chance to do something as well paying they probably would. This applies to almost every industry. McDonald’s starts paying 100k salaries and two years down the line there’s going to be a lot of passionate burger flippers

  • @panama-canada
    @panama-canada Před 2 měsíci

    Depending how n your lifestyle, you can’t retire on 10 mil. It’s too little.

  • @gcbusiness11
    @gcbusiness11 Před 2 měsíci

    When is silo coming to android

  • @itsmesuryat7570
    @itsmesuryat7570 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Nvidia is suffering from success now?

  • @alphaomega1351
    @alphaomega1351 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Trust that the system would NEVER allow that.
    Not to mention, if they are like most people, the more they earn, the more they are likely to spend.
    😳