SoD Phase 3: A Disastrous Launch...
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2024
- Season of Discovery's Phase 3 Launch possibly could be one of the worst launches in wow's history, especially classic wow. The game had many server problems and was riddled with gold and exp exploits that many players were able to take advantage of...
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0:00 Server Issues
2:16 Raid is Overtuned AF!
3:04 Insane Gold & Exp Bug
4:01 Class Bugs
4:46 ST Soft Lock Bugs
5:14 Closing Thoughts - Hry
Gonna be honest I could give a fk about sweaty world first try hards not getting an even playing field.
paid beta lawl
They can watch our streams for tips :) we have all tuned in to someone else while we cant seem to get in the game
No. One. cares. about world firsts. They care about the 700-900g they coulda farmed for free while simultaneously reach max lvl on launch day….
💯
Blizzard made me unsubscribe.
Yea the problem is the sweaty streamers are the ones driving the content.....and blizz doesn't really give a fuck about casual players or non neck beards...smh, I was having so much fun in SOD but I literally unsubbed....I'm too far behind and having a real life with real responsibilities I don't have time to keep up with this shit show of a game...
That's not true. World first kills: Don't affect my game play, and I don't have some overwhelming need to hear news of these kills.. but I am casually interested in hearing about it.
Yup world first no one cares
I’d like to see nightmare incursion completely removed from the game…
u can uninstall the game
Not gonna happen
Why? The whining is already leading to xp and rep nerfs.... thanks now leveling alts is definitely a no go
@@kyleparker8148I'd rather level my alts the normal way and have fun running dungeons with people who also have lots to level then have to suffer through another day of incursions. You're stupid
@@chelvy2880that's what I did. Once I saw the incursion set was better than gnomeregan gear I just farmed all month I uninstalled. Blizzard has absolutely no idea what they're f****** doing.
Incursions feels like playing on a private server. Should of just boosted everyone to 50. Its goofy gameplay and feels cheap.
I honestly felt the same way
literally tho. So pointless
Instead of enhancing the Classic gameworld they funneled everyone into a repetitive overtuned braindead world event to skip all the other content.
Opposite of "Classic+".
@@mufasafalldown8401 Sadly yeah. It made me go back to Era and Retail. I feel in Retail with the MoP remix they did more for that to add a reason to play Retail again. WOTLK because of Cata, I'm waiting for them to do the zones over again, making it a challenge to not do LFG.
It's sad because Legion with its Legion invasion events, they did a better job of doing this kind of event, where it wasn't such a bad gold farm.
Waking up to find out that many people got thousands of gold which is already hotfixed was definitely a motivation killer all because I had to work.
This game is best played when your unemployed and can take advantage of exploits
Yeah this right here makes me wanna finally quit.
Here I am struggling to find enough gold for mounts, the stupid Ratchet rune components, etc. and a bug lets a select few lucky people make enough gold to last them the rest of the expansion and they get to keep it. I know no one cares, but it's enough for me to quit.
Thousands is a stretch. Most people didn't do this and most who did got a few hundred gold.
@@schmidth 800+ easy.
I've done Asheville Incursion for about 6 hours off and on in 1 day after the first few nerfs, still made over 100g so far from lvls42-48
It was a disaster, not only because the game was impossible to log in the first few hours, but incursions was busted and boring AF to play. Mindlessly running in a circle to get level 50 in just a few hours. Hundreds of gold with no problems, free lvl 50 gear, broken raid, bugged af things going on, trash runes...
Also They restricted some features for new players such as AH, trading skill & ingame mail for atleast 30days of the gametime
Exactly! How is everyone so impressed with SoD. They literally ignored 99% of the game, gave everyone a braindead repetitive event to hit 50 and released a buggy unbalanced raid...
All SoD is just extra runes/abilities trivializing classic content. Plus XP boosting out the wazoo. If you wanna feel OP just go play retail.
Roll back the incursion gold
the fuck was blizz thinking here
They were not thinking, At all.
"They will keep paying their overpriced subscription even if we use our live instance as our testing environment".
@@lennypinskiy6598 Also They restricted some features for new players such as AH, trading skill & ingame mail . giving hardtime for ours new player . forced to do what the HC was . if i knew it earlier , I wouldnt have to pay the subs
The world first lvl 50 happend 20 years ago
Dont worry phase 4 youll log instantly ding 60 and get all your raid gear too! Youll discover there wasnt anything to discover all along.
Ppl complained discoveries were taking too long to discover so now upon logging in everything is discovered for you.
There is no "world first race to sunken temple" literally 12 people gaf about something like that. These people need a big reality check
The high level of no-lifers running around at lvl 50 already really sours the game for me. Its not about enjoying the game, its a rat race.
single player games are available for you no problem. Its like real life do you have a boss at work? same thing as the 50's running around just people who do more then you in life and are more efficient GG
@@Gambleraddict79blizzard never shoulda boosted xp leveling is a big part of classic there making terrible choices
How do you know they are not enjoying the game? Stop crying.
No lifers? It takes 3-4 hours to get to level 50 right now.
@@Gambleraddict79lmaoo comparing wow to real life are we
"Unfair advantage".....How many compete for world first? 0,0001% come on, it was a bummer that we had a 3h delay but how big of a deal is it really?
Time zones dude some people took the day off or got up early to play minus 3 hours it isn’t a indie game company how many launches have they done over the years blizzard need to take accountability for there games
@@williamwilliam5632 waaah. a game youve been playing for years and people had to wait a couple hours. people just like to complain about everything now
yeah, this is not about world firsting, this is about community. and if you play how its ment to be played, its amazing. yesterday i found new runes by exploring, it was amazing. there is so much different content
I think the comment on word first is meaningless, you’re right, nobody cares. But If someone plans to deliver something on time and people have made arrangements around that timing, it not being delivered is a huge embarrassment. There should be 0 delay. We pay for this service, it’s not free.
@@folieadeux5463 Where does it say how people are supposed to play? Each tribe just wants people to play like their tribe plays then get upset when ppl play how they want. Im personally loving sod bc i play with my guild mostly. I could care less how other people are playing...
Huffing copium in bulk if you think they actually care about making it good. Play acention if you want a real classic +.
The fact that SoD being nearly half of WoW's pop yet getting 10% of the budget and staff is baffling to me.
And these devs don’t even know how to enhance classic there just turning it into retail
@@TrTriTrippinso what would be your ideal classic +?
They already stated that retails is still by far the biggest population, so no is not close to half
Half of WoW’s pop? 😂
It’s like 5% maybe.
SoD is not close to being half of WoWs pop lol. As much as people might dislike the idea, but Blizz themselves have said that Retail is by far and away the largest pop.
Let's give Classic players some Retail class abilities then buff the bosses to be as hard as Retail bosses if not harder so we can keep the players subbed without letting them to make any real progress? This is how money is being made boys.
When dose phase 4 start?
Hundreds of gold, max level and rep in a few hours doing incursions…why? My guild pressuring me to do incursions to max level. Like, what is the point? Where is the value? The fact it’s an option makes no sense to me. How about make sweats server where stuff like this happens in sod, and then the sod classic? It just feels like another iteration of a bad experience of another version of wow I stopped playing because of the content, timeline, and players.
Ya it's a shit idea fr
Phase two tried my patience. Phase 3 k¡lled the remainder of what little patience I had.
Yup.. quit phase 3 day 1 after dinging a bit.. why the hell do I want to grind another dungeon for hours and hours… to hit cap and have the worst pvp in any game ever? Then to dungeon grind st to death, no thanks. Yeaaaaaaa sod is trash & blizz just wants an ez paycheck. Which they are getting.
seeing gold selling and private server ads on wow bids is touching
This is Season of Dads, not Season of Andys
If it were a season of dads, then how come that the "Andys" now have a 1000g advantage because they were able to get 150g/h from the new event and everyone else got fucked by the hotfix?
It hasn't been season of dad since phase 1...
Its season of spergs.
@@M._R.just buy gold. Problem solved.
No one ever said it's season of dad's, it's just a joke from reddit being taken seriously somehow 🤡
They could have prolonged phase 2 for ONE more month easy :(
The gold nerf really got to me, it happened just as i was able to get on after work after hearing my guild talk for hours about all the gold they were making. Then i go on twitter to see Aggrend's response and he basically says "too bad"
People are already buying gold and the market is already hyper inflated from the huge influx of gold from the pre incursions hotfix. It's just a beta for a game bro it's really not that serious. If the game isn't fun then play a different game.
I quit my guild for all of phase 2 and just came back recently to play casually. Life is good. 👍🏽
This is exactly what happened to me and it left such a bad taste in my mouth about sod so basically now i find myself today after work thinking why even log in now i am just sat chilling i have no feelings to preas play on the wow launcher today so i feel like i have just lost my spark for the game
Why because you didnt get to get max level on day 1? News flash, neither did 90% of the rest of the player base. Log in and get grindin instead of keyboard complainin
@@cstu6864 No, the spark is lost for people like us because we see some of the playerbase able to accumulate upwards of 1000g for 6 hours of gameplay that nullifies any of the gold farming we've done prior, and then the rest of us are cut off because we were working or doing something during launch. I don't want or expect to be fucking max level from 40-50 in one day. That's fucking retarded. Which is why these incursions should be nerfed for xp too.
@@cstu6864 This.
@@cstu6864 probably because of people who made an unfair amount of gold in those hours
Worst launch , its like they trying to kill SOD. Make sure bis items for the raid can be obtained in dungeons to keep people busy. This gear behind rep is like f ing retail...
well they did, ive been subbed since november and unsubbed this morning. Game is completely unplayabe from a horde prespective at this point. Just level 50 alliance players preventing me from playing the game. Just a terrible overall experience
Free private servers > Lizzard Enterpayment
Not to take their side on this one but I do feel their plight. The amount of people that whine incessantly about phase length and threaten to rage quit faster than a PUG Raid wipe in Gnomer probably has them sweating pretty hard. Deliver a busted game, the people bitch. Delay the delivery, people bitch. The product delivered is for sure unacceptable but I can't imagine the stress of keeping the WoW community content LoL!
It should be slower. The twitch fomo crowd that needs more stream content pushes people in this direction and its not going to be season of dads anymore
The thing is, we're not talking about a small indie company that doesn't have the resources to test new mechanics and quests before they're released. We're talking about a billion dollar company that charges millions of players 13 euros a month and then doesn't even check the most basic things before releasing them, but constantly fucks up releases and thereby fucks people who couldn't play the first few hours (due to bad release timing for EU players and login issues). And this isn't a one-time thing. It happens over and over again, which is neither funny nor acceptable.
@@simonramos5553 I wish it was slower too. I turned the exp/gold buff off day 1. I don't understand when people say they ran outta content. What they actually mean is, they ran outta content they want to do. To everyone that says there's nothing left to do in whatever phase we are in, I ask; How many grey exclamation points does Questie show on the map? What's your Honor ranking? How much of that Map is actually filled out? But the people just scream that they're bored and push the company to supply more and faster and then act all flabbergasted when they receive an inferior product. Don't get me wrong, the other guy is right. At the end of the day they are a Multi-Billion dollar company that is nickel and diming us. The product given is unacceptable on all accounts. I just want people to own up to the fact that they are demanding quite a bit at an unreasonable pace. WoW fandom got that crackhead energy lately and I don't get it...
@@PainCheeZe Amen amen..
Rag wasn’t killed for 154 days in vanilla
In that same time we’re in phase 3.
I don’t mind the xp bonuses but I’m literally NEVER complaining the game is going too fast
The thing is a big massively traded public company is just chasing numbers bc even the market at times is just a pump and dump.
Small indie problems of having no money
And big money problems of having to crank burnout levels of engagement for quarterly reports
This kind of genre could benefit massively if there was a passionate mega millionaire who cared about the integrity of the game and could still serve many people in a manner that was respectable to their livelihoods
no matter what they do, the will never be able to keep the wow community content, judging by the way people react to things and the way people play these days.
Doesn't this happen on every blizzard/Activision launch?
Yes For years now.
Don’t know why ppl log in on patch day
Literally every single time & it’s always the sweats crying about it lol. When I logged in yesterday everything was fine.
Blizzard has never cared about "Fairness" lol
The Incursions gold gain completely killed the entire economy on my server. Things that were 4 silver before, are now at least 1 gold. It's a nightmare. I'm so disappointed in Blizzard it happened.
My man with the Fable music at the end!! 🎉❤
Does anyone think that we need to find something new in the game to make ST more doable?
I thought this too, but the devs already said specifically that they overtuned their hp pools.
The new phase has also fucked up loot drops on Era/Hardcore since they are using the same client. Today on Hardcore, half the Mara loot didn't drop LOL.
Yah i am on living flame is the US. No issues for me. I was logged in at prior to the start did a /reload and was good to go. I even logges off for about and hour for some irl stuff logged back ran a few uldamns logged out for dinner and logged back in no issues..
I was trying to take the boat from Ratchet to BB as an Alliance player. I tried twice. Each time it would start loading it would port me to Razor Hill. No mount at 38. Had to run back twice.I logged after that....
Damn
*streeeeetch* ahh well guys it's been fun, who's ready for p4 now?
Greatest advertisement for Cata. Thank you and i will see you there.
U must be new to wow, nothing has changed
State from EU...
Everyone who was logged in +2 hours before phase3 launched, could stay in.
But the login failed as said, 2 hours before launch and was resolved about 1 hour 15 minutes after launch.
Not a big deal to be honest.
A shame they nerfed the gold earned from Nightmares during the night (for us) but for the ones who did it a few hours, got quite a lot of gold. :)
"Your health is low, do you have any potions, or food?"
yes you might like increased difficulty without playing better, because you might have a ton of addons that tell you the next move and when and where, but if you are just a ''casual'' player who does not have that or a guild, then have fun with the increased difficulty, if you want increased difficulty just go retail and raid mythic, why come to classic and turn it to retail, i dont understand, but SOD is so far away from classic i personally dont even see it as classic anymore.
With the launch of phase 3 it is no longer classic.
Then play one of the many classic servers. But no, you just follow the hype instead of playing what you say you want.
I'm surprised there's absolute nothing for warriors. Specifically Protection Warriors!
As a Protection Warrior it's basically impossible keep AOE threat on trash mobs in raid, compared to for example a Shaman tank with still overtuned Lightning Shield.
Thunder Clap/Furious Thunder (rune) threat level is extremely bugged and can by no means be used to keep aggro on multiple mobs at once. Besides that Block Value is still bugged, when it comes to adding damage to Shield Slam...
#FixProtWar
What are bogs?
This is the first raid that almost made me come back to the game.
Me while watching this video while having " no servers are currently available" message :(
Blizzard probably still doesn't respect their QA staff.
I got so mad, bc of the SoD Launch i couldn't log onto my Firemaw paladin and play him instead😂
In the US I had no login problems.
If its that crucial you play it immediately, u move servers immediately 😂
‘Bambooboozling’
Great video, but is it not crazy, that after 20+ years of disasterous launches, for multiple games, people still have ANY hope for a good launch? What will Cata Classic launch be like? 90% sure it will be a disaster, still I will be angry when it is. It's like knowing someone gonna kick you in the nuts, yet you don't move and get angry after :P it's a strange phenomenon
Playing on NA and just degen farming the incursions was so fun seeing your gold exp go through the roof. Now I can raid log faster without going broke on consumes half-way through the phase :D
This seems just like every other launch, except the gold and cap glitch.
As for down tuning the last boss before anyone has any gear? Nah. Even if it’s not possible until you hear up a little it’s cool.
I don't mind any of this, the servers were up an hour later which was fine. The gold the others made doesn't affect me since it's only a super small percentage of ppl. I only hope the raid is not as difficult once our guild hits it. I'd hate to wipe and tryhard cause that's why I quit retail
Honestly they should have waited several months and tested this shit show of a launch. 😊
Madseason made the same point about some people not wanting any criticism of blizz 👍
No issues for me. Having fun and enjoying the game.
This is gonna be a nothing issue 800 gold wil not hurt as much as the bots
The Gold from the first couple of hours is the Problem.
I am 100% sure they will introduce a hard Goldsink in the next Phase because they flooded the people with Gold but those who already dont have much and havent exploited will suffer thats the problem.
Hope phase 4 comes out fast, we are bored atm.
is PvP games still illegal in Germany?
The fable music is 🤌🏼
I heard someting about player who mutliboxed 73 000 golds at Emerald Nightmare
I think the leveling speed from Incursions is fine. People saying the event feels like retail are not realizing it's an exact copy of vanilla silithis missives. Sure, it levels you pretty quick but I didn't do any to get my mage from 40-50 and did it in 7 hours aoe grinding. Now, instead of having a headstart on the rep I'll have to do the exact thing people did to level anyway.
10 levels in a two month long season just isn't anything to worry about. Sure, in normal classic leveling is the content and it's all about the journey. Well, there's only so much journey you can have when you only get to increase your level by 10 every two months. It's such a small portion of the content regardless of incursion or xp buff. People would be 50 in a day or two playing casually anyway.
My buddy who did incursions to level did it in about 5 hours and got to honored. So he got to hit 50 and immediately get 6 set. I think that's a great way to kill two birds with one stone since if I knew how crazy they were I would have done it too since you gotta do the rep grind anyway. So now he's off getting his runes and pvping and I still gotta do 5 hours of rep grind to catch up to him all while no longer getting the bonus of leveling at the same time.
EDIT: Looks like blizzard things the xp speed is good too but didn't mean to completely overshadow other means of levelings so they are reducing the xp from the incursions a bit but increasing the overall xp buff from 50-75% or more. So depending on the nerf it could basically even out for incursions while buffing it for everything else in the game. This is just a phase of quick leveling.
Great launch, most things were not spoiled. If there are some day 1-2 bugs that are patched out or corrected quickly then it’s an acceptable trade off in my opinion. Who cares if a few people get an unfair gold advantage, it’s a game…
About 3 people care about world firsts. On retail and classic. Plus sods train kinda fell off after phase 1 given they made us wait ages for nothing
I was able to play and make 250 gold in incursions. :)
same! 300g here, level 50 in 11 hours and honored with Emerald wardens :)
@@idkidgaf very classic experience. I remember in Classic 2019 going from 40-50 in 11 hours and making 250 gold doing braindead repeatable quests.
Funny that people haven't realized yet that they're playing a beta version of retail.
Idk it sounds like all the sweaty people are mad and it’s about time they weren’t catered to. My little guild of families took time to log on together at launch to play as we do with every launch and had a blast. We barely just cleared Gnomer a few weeks ago so it wasn’t the “no lives” people who won imo. Some of us didn’t even have a mount yet and there was no way we were going to be able to get dual spec any time soon. We were ecstatic and a few of us got to 50
good for you but your point of view is whats wrong with this community. its not you vs sweats. you enjoy the way u play they enjoy the way they play. The sweats haven't been catered to IMO if anything nothing has ever touched the way you play the game
comparing classic wow to mythic difficulty, dude you have no idea lmao
Sod is over guys. Fresh era when.
Please! I’ve been saying this since phase 2. Sod doesn’t feel rewarding
the leveling is way way way tooo fast its almost a joke
Jokes are funny. This was a failure nerfed once someone with more then two brain cells realized ppl would complain about lack on content when they are 50 on day 2 of phase 3 .
when are these bozos gonna stop being blinded by the retail light mode SOD and just play dragonflight
i like what i hear the complaints the bugs the shit welcome to true wow og 2004 style i hope it gets even more intresting sod is on good path
Much like the announcement, the launch was definitely rushed. You are not alone in feeling that way
I had no issues.
that doesn't mean there were no issues
They're trying to do too damned many things at once.
So the wrong Gold value at Incursions shouldnt have happend, but thats all u can still lvl up to 50 in no time
That's huge though
I've had 2kg since mid of phase 2. Just hit 50 and still have the same amount of gold. There's literally nothing to use it on since gdkp died. All bis is either raid gear new and old or professions. Cool someone may not have to farm for raid consumes for a while. Maybe professions but even they got nerfed into oblivion cost wise bc people couldn't make 100g somehow. In this version of wow its clearer than day that the devs are trying to make gold as useless as can be to Combat rmt
I like it when the raids are difficult. I don’t understand this belief that classic players want everything to be trivially easy and have no patience.
agreed
We do more dps then we did back in vanilla bwl... yes hp high but it should be at launch. No one should be in there already
lmao thats a matter of opinion,
I had a blast
Bogs
Tbh I’m probs the minority here but I loved it hahaha, I usually hate the grind from 40-50 so it felt nice to finally level up and do open world content and gesring. Obviously I think in 2 weeks time I think I’ll be running out of things to do but was fun while it lasted😊
Honestly this phase has me debating quitting out of the sheer disrespect from blizzard, It's fucking insulting.
I double dare you to quit. We all know you cant quit, you can pause it or take a break but you can never leave. Ask arround if you dont believe me
@@FB-sj2ryur cringe lol
@@FB-sj2ry already unsubscribed, WoW is a pathetic waste of life.
Hard disagree about them taking all of the servers down for the few that have issues. First 4 guilds that got world first were still EU.
Love that I had better things to do, didnt even know this happened xD xD
Cant believe ppl take off work for this shit xD
maybe im off after this no way
I made 700 gold and got 50 so I’m happy
I played for like an hour then took a nap so idk about any bugs or anything, but as a very casual questing enjoyer the whole thing were apparently people can hit 50 within a few hours just farming the Nightmare stuff miffs me a lil bit.
Much moreso than that there is STILL no actually good paladin gear because Blizzard doesn't know how to stat gear for us, we don't just need Stm/Int, or Str/Stm, to actually be good gear we unironically need Stm, Str, Int & Spell Power, but any SP plate cannot have Str on it apparently, also if you go into SP your Stm is reduced in like half from the Str/Stm gear. They are making Pally gear like it's retail, but this isn't retail & we need all 4 of those stats to be effective.
anyone else get trade restricted suddenly?
What does blizzard care? They get your $15 a month for a 20 year old game no matter what. If you've paid for this garbage for so long, why would you stop now?
Incursions probably makes me quit SoD which is sad. Same old blizzard. Just wanted an authentic experience with a + in line with the classic ethos. Sod is just abusing the classic nostalgia while moving closer to a retail mindset.
I made 600g day one, raid is fun. season is great
I agree, blizzard is a billion dollar company. There's no excuse for the ineptitude.
They restricted some features for new players such as AH, trading skill & ingame mail . giving hardtime for ours new player . forced to do what the HC was . if i knew it earlier , I wouldnt have to subs
you’re not meant to be able to soul link with felguard
No that's meta form
@@koffin522 oh holy crap
@@koffin522 so you can soul link felguard
Yeah that's a low bar for launches and there's been much worse considering it was working fine within hours. Haha.
Na, it's already a low bar designed for Blizzard. If you think it's okay to have this kind of launch after running the same game for 20 years you're kissing blizzard's ass.
@@zxbc1 Haha yeah it's wild that it sill happens every time.
It is season of discovery, its a "test" version of wow, ofc there a bugs
nice cope we still pay for the game therefore should receive a product that has minimal bugs
Bunch of Crybabys
Blizzard is just doing what they do best.