If They Shall Fall Away - Rev. Lee Stoneking - Christian Life Center - Stockton, CA

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  • čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
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    Join us for worship and a message from Reverend Lee Stoneking in our Sunday morning service from Christian Life Center in Stockton, CA.
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    Intro - 0:00
    The Word - 0:23
    Altar Call - 54:24
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Komentáře • 66

  • @silasanguiano3796
    @silasanguiano3796 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thank God for Pastors,,we need them,,,they will give an account for us on the day judgment

  • @millycurtisgleason1458
    @millycurtisgleason1458 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Awesome Powerfilled Message Bro Lee Stoneking ,I came into United Pentecostal Church under Elder Harvey M. Howe's Ministry in Hudson NH 1964 , His son David Howe is Pastor there now in Hudson NH UPC Have been Blessed by the Lord through your Ministry many times through the years . Thank you , still am . Keeping you & His Ministry through you in My Prayers from Milly in Maine soon to be back in NH Amen 🙏👍🔥💪👑😊

  • @rsierra2830
    @rsierra2830 Před 11 lety +7

    The UPC opened their heart to my family and I love the church I also believe Lee Stonekings preaching.

  • @dubwright8058
    @dubwright8058 Před 11 lety +1

    I love this kind of preaching and teaching. I dont wanna forsake the Lord. I thank God for his indwelling spirit and the sin remitting power of his name

  • @in2uJesus
    @in2uJesus Před 11 lety +4

    I thank God for Rev.Lee Stonking.Glory to God! I love you Lord!

  • @katluvr4life61
    @katluvr4life61 Před 11 lety +4

    Love it....I was backslid 33 years....when I hear people talk about not being able to come back it hurts my heart....I know what I have.....Thank you thank you....

  • @jasonb9198
    @jasonb9198 Před 10 lety +14

    The UPC is not a cult. It does not have a central leader controlling people. People come and go all the time and are free to do so. It preaches doctrine that some people follow and some people don't (this is evident in their churches). Individual churches have different dress standards from each other, not centralized by the UPC. Just because you disagree with their stance on it doesn't make it a cult.

  • @tacomistress
    @tacomistress Před 11 lety +1

    I did a 'School of Scriptures' bible teaching at the Upper Room church in Imperial Beach, CA. I love his teachings and preaching so dearly. God uses him in a marvelous way! And I'm so happy knowing he mentors my pastor and his wife, the Shepherds!

  • @jamafricanprincess
    @jamafricanprincess Před 9 lety +5

    God is real...

  • @tiff408
    @tiff408 Před 2 lety +2

    Hallelujah 🙌🏼🙏🏼💕🙌🏼

  • @reformatorful
    @reformatorful Před 10 lety

    God bless You Brothers and Sisters in Name Jesus. Thank Jesus. Thank You

  • @twingirl081
    @twingirl081 Před 11 lety +1

    I love listening to Rev Lee Stoneking, Please let his youtube family know if he every comes to North Carlina. I would really love to hear him in person. Thanks so much !!!!

  • @pskemster
    @pskemster Před 8 lety +1

    In Jesus name!

  • @JohntoddWallace
    @JohntoddWallace Před 8 lety +1

    Amen!

  • @thompsonpalmer9346
    @thompsonpalmer9346 Před 10 lety

    You have been sent a deciving spirit.

  • @1juancolorado
    @1juancolorado Před 11 lety

    GOD IS WITH U YOUNG ONE MY THE FORCE BE WITH US

  • @sisterlee373
    @sisterlee373 Před 11 lety

    awesome! dont mess with the king of kings!

  • @beyondthiscoldplace
    @beyondthiscoldplace Před 11 lety +2

    The bible is talking about leaving Christ. He is talking about falling away from his interpretation of things. Big difference. I left the upc, I tried to do it gracefully, went to the pastor privately, explained I wasn't leaving Christianity, I just no longer agreed with some of the doctrines. He said I will be lost in 2 years, then I was shunned. But God has always been good, always will be. 17 years later, I am still glad I left. Still a Christian. Just kind of sad about it all i guess

  • @toucheturtle8815
    @toucheturtle8815 Před 8 lety +4

    Ephesians 4:11:"It was he who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers."
    WHY?
    Ephesians 4:12:"To prepare God's people for WORKS OF SERVICE, so that the body of Christ may be built up."
    "It is the task of the apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers to HELP EACH SAINT FIND HIS WORK OF MINISTRY, and TRAIN HIM TO PERFORM THAT TASK properly within the body. Those who hold the five ministerial offices are to inspire, motivate, disciple, instruct, and prepare the saints so that EVERYONE IS AN ACTIVE, productive member of the body." --Rev. David K Bernard, from his book, "Spiritual Gifts."
    How is this sermon , or any sermon within the UPCI, accomplishing Ephesians 4:12?
    How is this sermon by Rev. Stoneking preparing any member of the UPCI for "WORKS OF SERVICE?" (Rev. Stoneking is a UPC affiliated evangelist)
    Where does Rev, Stoneking, in this video sermon, teach anyone about preparing for their particular "works of service?"
    Are ALL members of the UCPI "active" in their particular calling within the local UPCI church? If not, why not?

  • @hargisP2
    @hargisP2 Před 9 lety +6

    The Trinity wasn't taught in the Church until about the 2nd cent. It came from the Roman thought of more than one God. In fact they use to worship many gods, and when they took on Christianity, they just added Jesus to their Pagan beliefs. No where does the Bible teach about a trinity or triune god. Col 2:9, Isa. 9:6 says who Jesus (God) is. There are many other verses that prove ONE GOD embodied in the Lord Jesus. The Hebrew word Elohim is plural meaning God and His many powers, That is how it is plural. Matt. 28:19 is speaking of the titles of God. It does not speak of a trinity. You only have tp pay attention to where it says "Baptize them in the NAME of" not names. Jesus is that name. God came right into my home and spoke to me. I was praying for that to happen. I prayed to the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob. Jesus showed up. When Paul was converted, Jesus showed up. It wasn't three separate gods. It was the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit all in Jesus. I could not stand, I fell on the floor asking for forgiveness. He touched the top of my head, and 17 years of drug addiction completely left, no with draws, no 12 steps, but 1 step. That was in 1982, and still clean. I am no longer a drug addict. I am a new Creation in Jesus Christ. Baptized in the Holy Spirit with the gift of tongues. And have experienced God heal people that I prayed for.

    • @blaze1sh
      @blaze1sh Před 6 lety +1

      Hargis Pennington I've been waiting for this to happen to me. I ask God daily to Remove my addiction. pray for me

    • @ingatrude3627
      @ingatrude3627 Před 5 lety

      @@blaze1sh I will pray. Jesus saves. I was delivered from alcohol addiction by the Lord. It can happen for you in a miraculous way as testified here. My deliverance didn't come all at once but gradually. It's different for everyone. It's going to happen for you when you turn to him, repent and follow Him. Remember He forgives so forgive yourself too. Don't beat yourself up no matter if you fall. Repent and move forward. However many times it takes, keep looking to him.
      Father in the name of your precious son Jesus, I ask you to heal and deliver Blaze. I thank you and praise you for what your doing. In the name of Jesus, Amen
      I hope I hear from you.

  • @jaynette2011
    @jaynette2011 Před 11 lety

    im soooo soorry that you feel that way, I will earnestly pray for you and your family. i dont know why you believe this is a cult, probably because you were scared by your church but can I tell you this, not all churches are the same

  • @OceanOfDreams11
    @OceanOfDreams11 Před 10 lety +2

    John 14 v 6 Jesus said " I am the way, the truth and the LIFE. No man cometh unto to the father but by me. John 14 v 13 " Ask anything in believing my name Jesus and I will do it. "
    Sir , mam it is a serious thing to mock God and his ways and his people who honorably serve him. We are not perfect but live daily towards pleasing the lord who reigns in heaven Jesus Christ God of Abraham.
    Jesus name is most powerful. He died on the cross for humanity. We are given a CHOICE whom we shall serve. Nothing is forced. And our purpose is evangelism. So that we full fill God's will in bringing others to salvation. Hope is in him.AND as sure as there is a heaven, there is a hell. As sure as there is heavenly gates - there is gates of hell. Peace in heaven -enrernal torment in hell..Choice is serve Jesus our God of salvation or Satan pince of all lies and this includes those that speak against the bride of Jesus Christ his people. No experts is higher than God. No expert in any subject. God Jesus is not mocked. Whatever a man soweth so shall he also reap. We all have a choice. A choice to flood our minds with goodness or evil. To set our eyes on a eternal prize heaven. Or worldy earthy possession that will remain on earth after death. To live in obedience or in disobedience. To have a personal relationship through prayer daily with God or not. What ever choice is made. A price must be paid. His word is everlasting. JESUS NEVER FAILS ! My hair is my covering and glory, I honor him in choice to wear it long and uncut. As a weapon while in prayer against mine enemies. Say what you will against the one true God Jesus Christ. There is also a price to pay for this action. If you repent he will forgive you. But all choices made follow with consequences. Rev StoneKing is a honorable man of the one true God Jesus Christ. God IS Love. Seek him while he maybe found. Jesus is King of Kings the lamb of God the everlasti

  • @MyOregonLife
    @MyOregonLife Před 10 lety +2

    There is only one god there is no trinity.

  • @beyondthiscoldplace
    @beyondthiscoldplace Před 11 lety

    Thank you. But I am ok not coming back. The Lord is good.

  • @RicardoGarcia-kv8it
    @RicardoGarcia-kv8it Před 4 lety

    Now added another thing to receive the soeaking in tongues GET OUT OF CONTROL i didn't do that when i spoke in tongueslol

  • @EmBuscus77
    @EmBuscus77 Před 11 lety

    If they say your going to hell if you leave well that's not true, maybe you should leave (but not with a chip on you shoulder) also if they say that they are not UPCI. The bible has all the answers! ;)

  • @thompsonpalmer9346
    @thompsonpalmer9346 Před 10 lety

    The problem with many Gods people is that cannot understand that the only true God came in the flesh. Jesus was speaking of his flesh (will of his flesh). Not the will of two God’s. The Father is Spirit, which Jesus said was in Him. What is so hard for you to understand that? You know there is another god, he is called the god of this world (Satan) who blinds and captures his victims. The Jewish religious people would not accept Jesus as the Jehovah come in the flesh and Trinitarians will not

  • @RicardoGarcia-kv8it
    @RicardoGarcia-kv8it Před 4 lety

    26:50 He is applying Heb 6:3 to preachers who have gone out of the UPC to that verse lol lol lol that's referring to someone like king Agrppa who almost got converted to Christ. Lol lol that out of context lol

  • @RicardoGarcia-kv8it
    @RicardoGarcia-kv8it Před 4 lety

    29:37 No we repented cause the grace of God came into oir hearts. Acts 2:37 grace came in whem we believed hello

  • @BROTHERJONATHANBURG
    @BROTHERJONATHANBURG Před 5 lety

    FATHER JESUS HATES DIVORCE & IDOLATRY TOO!!!!!!!!!!!! GET RECONCILED!! (more to follow PLEASE PRAYERFULLY READ WISELY............)
    FATHER JESUS LOVES YOU & YOURS - ALL DECENT & K I N D SOULS!!!!!
    FATHER JESUS (MATT 23 9) CALVARIZED & RAISING HIMSELF FROM HIS TOMB THAT SHEWED HIS HOLY LOVE . . . . . .
    ZEALED ALL WELCOME TO REPENT EVEN ALL JEWS - WHOM SO EVER WILL!!!!! ALL HUMANITY!!!!
    COME & POUR OUT TO HIM VIA REPENTANCE AND LIVE FOREVER IN HIM THAT LOVES YOU WITH AN EVERLASTING LOVE!!
    ACTS 2 38 Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of JESUS CHRIST for the REMISSION OF SINS AND YE SHALL RECEIVE THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST. BE RENEWED IN HIM! BE LATE NOT!! SEE YA AT FATHER GOD HOLY JESUS LOVING TABLE!!
    DEUTERONOMY 17 17
    17 He must not take many wives, or his heart will be led astray. He must not accumulate large amounts of silver and gold.
    MARK 10 9
    9 Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
    ROMANS 7 1 -5
    1 Know ye not, brethren,* (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as* he liveth?
    2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
    3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
    Wherefore,my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. ROMANS 7 1 - 5
    ACTS 2: 38-40
    38 And Peter says to them: Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of JESUS CHRIST for the REMISSION OF SINS AND YE SHALL RECEIVE THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST.
    AND REMEMBER TOO . . . . . NO MARY WORSHIP!!:)
    MARY WENT WITH ALL THE EARTH . . . . . . NEITHER NO SAINT'S WORSHIP!! :)
    NO BIBLE FOR IDOLATRY OF ANY K I N D!!! FATHER JESUS ONLY HEARS BROKEN HEARTS
    AND CONTRITE SPIRITUAL PRAYERS - SEE THOU DO IT NOT WORSHIP GOD!! REVELATION 22 9 - 10
    & THE POPE IS NO ONE'S SPIRITUAL FATHER (MATTHEW 23:9)
    SEE THOU DO IT NOT WORSHIP GOD O N L Y!! REVELATION 22 9 - 10
    A B U S E D?
    FATHER JESUS CARRIES US ALL DO NOT GIVE IN OR UP -
    I FORMERLY WAS ATTACKED MYSELF AGE 5 MANY YEARS AGO.....:( AFTER FATHER JESUS .....:) AND SO . . . . . .
    REGARDING A B U S E . . . . . . . . . . . .
    JUST SIMPLY TALK TO FATHER JESUS AS YE WOULD ANY GOOD FRIEND!! - REMEMBER ACTS 2 38 & PSALMS 23 -
    FATHER JESUS OUR FIRST INNOCENT LOVE BE WITH YOU ZEALOUSLY ALL AND BLESS YOU!!!!!
    ACTS 2 3 8
    FATHER JESUS LOVES YOU ZEALOUSLY FIRST FOREVER FOREMOST WITH HIS HOLY MOST POWERFUL EVERLASTING CONSECRATED LOVE . . . . . ACTS 2 3 8 HOW IT ALL BEGINS IN HIS HOLIEST LOVE ZEALOUSLY FOR YOU!!!!!
    ESPANOL
    DEUTERONOMIO 17 17
    17 él no debe tener a muchas esposas, o su corazón se descarrió. Él no debe acumular grandes cantidades de oro y plata.
    MARCA 9 DE 10
    9 por lo tanto lo que Dios ha unido, que nadie separado".
    ROMANOS 7 1 -5
    1 sabéis no, hermanos, * (para los que conocen la ley, hablar) ¿Cómo que la ley tiene dominio sobre un hombre tan largo como * vive?
    2 para la mujer que tiene un marido es obligado por la ley a su marido tanto tiempo como él vive; pero si el marido está muerto, ella es liberada de la ley de su esposo.
    3 así que entonces si, mientras su marido vive, ella se casó con otro hombre, será llamada adúltera: pero si su marido está muerto, ella es libre de esa ley; por lo que no es adúltera, aunque ella se casó con otro hombre.
    Por tanto, hermanos míos, vosotros también sois ser muerto a la ley por el cuerpo de Cristo; que os deben casarse con otro, incluso a aquel que levantó de los muertos, que nosotros debemos producir fruto para Dios. ROMANOS 7 1 - 5
    Y Pedro les dice:
    Arrepentíos, y bautícese cada uno de vosotros en el nombre de Jesucristo para perdón de los pecados; y recibiréis el don del Espíritu Santo.
    ACTS 2 3 8
    Arrepentíos, y bautícese cada uno de vosotros en el nombre de Jesucristo para perdón de los pecados; y recibiréis el don del Espíritu Santo. ACTS 2 3 8
    Y RECUERDO TAMBIÉN... NINGÚN CULTO DE MARÍA!:) MARÍA FUE CON TODA LA TIERRA... ¡ADORACIÓN DE LOS SANTOS NINGUNO DE LOS DOS NO!!!! :) NO HAY BIBLIA PARA IDOLATRÍA DE CUALQUIER K I N D!!!!!! PADRE JESÚS SÓLO ESCUCHA CORAZONES QUEBRANTADOS Y CONTRITOS ORACIONES ESPIRITUALES - VER TÚ HACERLO NO ADORAD A DIOS! APOCALIPSIS 22 9 - 10 Y EL PAPA ES DE NADIE PADRE ESPIRITUAL (MATEO 23:9) VER TÚ NO ADORACIÓN DIOS O N L Y! APOCALIPSIS 22 9 - 10
    ABUSED?!!!!!
    PADRE JESÚS LLEVA U.S. TODOS NO DAN EN O -ATACÓ ANTES YO
    -5 AÑOS DE EDAD HACE MUCHOS AÑOS: () PADRE JESÚS...:)
    ASÍ QUE... CON RESPECTO A B U S E............ SIMPLEMENTE HABLAR CON PADRE JESÚS QUE OS HARÍA CUALQUIER BUEN AMIGO!! -Recuerde hechos 2 38 y Salmo 23 - Jesús Padre nuestro inocente primer amor estar contigo celosamente todos y los bendiga!!!!!!
    FRENCH
    DEUTÉRONOME 17 17
    17 il ne doit pas prendre beaucoup d’épouses, ou son cœur va être dévoyé. Il ne doit pas accumuler de grandes quantités d’or et d’argent.
    MARC 10 9
    9 c’est pourquoi ce que Dieu a joint, que personne ne distincte. »
    ROMAINS 7 1 -5
    1 savez-vous pas, frères, * (car je parle à des gens qui connaissent la loi,) comment que la loi a domination sur un homme aussi longtemps que * il est vivant ?
    2 pour la femme qui a un mari est lié par la loi à son mari tant qu’il est vivant ; Mais si le mari est mort, elle est déliée de la loi de son mari.
    3 donc alors si, alors que son mari est vivant, elle se marier avec un autre homme, elle sera appelée adultère : mais si son mari est mort, elle est libre de la loi ; alors qu’elle n’est pas adultère, si elle se marier avec un autre homme.
    C’est pourquoi, mes frères, vous êtes également devenir morts à la loi par le corps du Christ ; que vous devriez se marier à un autre, même à celui qui est ressuscité des morts, que nous devrions sortir fruits à Dieu. ROMAINS 7 1 - 5
    ACTES À 02:38
    38 et Peter leur dit : repentez-vous et soyez baptisés chacun d'entre vous au nom de Jésus-Christ pour la RÉMISSION de péchés et YE doit recevoir le cadeau de THE HOLY GHOST.
    ET N’OUBLIEZ PAS TROP..... AUCUN CULTE DE MARIE !! :))
    MARY SE REND AVEC TOUTE LA TERRE...... CULTE DE LA SAINTE NI NO !! :) PAS DE BIBLE POUR L’IDOLÂTRIE DE TOUT K I N D !!! PÈRE DE JÉSUS ENTEND SEULEMENT CŒUR BRISÉ ET CONTRITS PRIÈRES SPIRITUELLES -
    VOIR TU LE FAIRE PAS ADOREZ DIEU ! APOCALYPSE 22 9 - 10
    & Le pape est le père spirituel de personne (Matthieu 23:9)
    VOIS TU PAS CULTE DIEU O N L Y FAIRE !! APOCALYPSE 22 9 - 10
    PÈRE JESUS CARRIES U.S. TOUS NE DONNENT PAS DE IN OU UP - JE ME SUIS MOI-MÊME ATTAQUÉ AUPARAVANT
    -5 ANS IL Y A PLUSIEURS ANNÉES... : () APRÈS PÈRE JÉSUS... :))
    ET DONC...... CONCERNANT UN B U S E............ TOUT SIMPLEMENT PARLER AU PÈRE JÉSUS COMME VOUS FERIEZ UN BON AMI !! -Rappelez-vous actes 2 38 & PSAUMES 23 - père Jésus notre premier INNOCENT LOVE BE WITH YOU avec zèle tous et vous bénisse !

  • @stephanierodriguez2186
    @stephanierodriguez2186 Před 3 měsíci

    UPC IS I NOT A CULT
    UPCI is "the Jesus Only doctrine which states that there is no Trinity; that the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit are only titles for Jesus." This definition of the Oneness position is simplistic, misleading, and inaccurate.
    First, the UPCI does not use the label "Jesus Only", because it may erroneously imply a denial of the Father and the Holy Ghost. Second, the UPCI teaches that the one God existed as Father and the Holy Spirit before His incarnation as Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and that while Jesus walked on earth as God Himself incarnate, the Spirit of God continued to be omnipresent. We affirm that God has revealed Himself as father (in parental realtionship to humanity), in the Son (human flesh), and as the Holy Spirit (in action). We do not accept the trinitarian concept of three distinct centers of consciousness in the Godhead, but we hold that God is absolutely and indivisibly one (Deut.6:4, Gal.3:20). Moreover, we affirm that in Jesus dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily (Col.2:9) and that Jesus is the only name given for salvation (Acts 4:12). The Father is revealed to us in the name of Jesus, the Son was given the name of Jesus at birth, and the Holy Spirit comes to us in the name of Jesus (Matthew 1:21, John 5:43, 14:26, 17:6).
    In any case, do the doctrinal teachings and ministerial requirements of the Assemblies of God determine whether or not a group is a cult? No one can be a preacher in that denomination unless he has received the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tounges; does it follow, then, that all non-Pentecostal groups are cults? Moreover, the Roman Catholic Church, which has a far greater history and membership than the Assemblies of God, officially excommunicated the Protestants, consigning them to damnation. Does this action mean that all Protestants are cultists? We can only appeal to the Bible, not a denomination, to determine whether a doctrine is true or false.
    The newsletter further claims, In John 10:30 the original Greek has Jesus saying: I and my Father, we are in union" (emphasis is Martin's), describing this verse as "devastating" to the Oneness position. But no major translation of the Bible adopts this rendering. The King James Version says, "I and my Father are one." The Greek word hen inthis verse is the first cardinal number (neuter form). Like the English word one, hen can sometimes have the connotation of unity, but it's fundamental meaning and translation is simply "one". Moreover, the Greek preposition for "in" does not appear in this verse. Saying that hen means "in union" instead of "one" is a theological interpretation, not a direct translation from the Greek. Moreover, there is no reason to supply the word we. It is true that every Greek verb indicates the person and number of it's subject. Thus, John 10:30 uses the verb esmen, which is the first-person plural form of the verb to be. In much the same way, the English verb are tells us that the subject is plural rather than singular. Standing alone, esmen would imply it's own subject and be translated "we are." In John 10:30, however, the subject is already supplied--"I and the Father" (ego kai ho pater)-- and esmen is used merely to agree with the subject. It simply means "are". Greek has a separate word, hemesis, for the pronoun we, but it does not appear in John 10:30. (The entire verse reads, ego kai ho pater hen esmen).
    In short, this "devastating" argument from the Greek tells us nothing that we do not already know from the English: "I and the Father" is a first-person plural subject, and the word one sometimes bears the connotation of union. we recognize that there is a plurality of persons in the Godhead (John 17:3, I Tim.2:5). We agree that the man Christ Jesus was fully united with the Spirit of God, but we also understand that the Father was incarnate in Jesus (John 14:9-11). Finally, the newsletter maintains that "tongue speaking and other phenomena" in the UPCI are actually "counterfeit", saying that the UPCI "imitates modern charismatic or pentecostal revival techniques". How can someone say that the biblical experiences of Oneness Pentecostals are all counterfeit while evidently accepting trinitarian Pentecostal experiences as genuine? How can he explain the thousands of divine healings, manifestations of spiritual gifts, and baptisms of the Holy Spirit in the UPCI, particularly when many people receive the Holy Ghost in UPCI churches before they study Oneness doctrine? If all Oneness tongues speaking is countefeit, how can thousands of trinitarians receive the Holy Spirit (some of them while in trintarian churches), subsequently be led to the truths of baptism in Jesus' name and Oneness, and then continue to speak in tongues and enjoy the presence of the Holy Spirit in the same manner as before? Far from imitating modern charismatics, the founders of the UPCI were an integral part of the twentieth-century Pentecostal movement from its beginnings.
    Martin not only believes that some UPCI members are saved but also that once a person is saved he can never lose his salvation. This means he is attacking those whom he considers to be fellow Christians and seeking to destroy their churches. It would seem more appropriate to let the Lord of these people decide how to judge these churches and deal with them as He wills, rather than appointing oneself to that role. "Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand." (Romans 14:4). In summary, Walter Martin's explanation of UPCI doctrine and history is clearly erroneous, as someone can readily ascertain by consulting either trinitarian or Oneness sources. His translation of John 10:30 is biased, unwarranted, and misleading. His characterization of the faith and spiritual experiences of UPCI members is a sweeping generalization unsupported by concrete evidence or comparative study. In addition to being inbiblical, his form of trinitarianism deviates from the very standard to which he appeals: church tradition and majority opinion.
    The conclusion is enscapable: Walter Martin's attack on the United Pentecostal Church is not credible. At best, it is a case of faulty scholarship; at worst, it is a deliberate distortion.
    We can only hope that in the future those who wish to analyze our movement will approach us with an open mind, state our doctrinal position and history accurately, observe the work of God's Spirit in our churches and lives, and reason with us scripturally. If they do, they will find that, while we do not regard man-made creeds and traditions as authoritative, we are firmly commited to studying, discussing, preaching, teaching, believing, and obeying the Word of God.

  • @RicardoGarcia-kv8it
    @RicardoGarcia-kv8it Před 4 lety

    22:23 water baptism is our bread and butter lol lol Paul said its not for me. nor God 's

  • @BROTHERJONATHANBURG
    @BROTHERJONATHANBURG Před 5 lety

    I N A S M U C H .........
    FATHER JESUS WHOM CREATED ALL CREATION INVISIBLE & VISIBLE ......
    CREATED YOU & I......I & YOU . . . . .YEA I....& Y O U!!....
    WHAT or WHOM ARE WE AFRAID OF? -
    EVEN IF "WE BOUGHT IT AND IT IS OUR FAULT" - WE CAN REPENT SINCERELY AND BE FORGIVEN -
    BECAUSE WHOM GOD FORGIVES . . . . . . IS FORGIVEN!!!!!!!
    AND A SOULFUL SPIRITUAL ZEALOUS CLEAN SLATE IS ZEALOUSLY ACHIEVED!!!!!
    SO WHY WORRY?! - WHY NOT- AFTER BEING REPENTED AND FORGIVEN....? -
    F O R G I V E O U R S E L V E S!!!!! - IS THAT SO HARD?! -
    AND THOSE THAT WOULD RUB "OUR NOSE" - IN IT......
    LET THEM EXAMINE THEMSELVES AND REPENT -
    SO ONLY..... the devil that tricked us - directly or not . . . . .
    ONLY the devil IS EXPOSED & CATCHES ALL THE HEAT (REV 20:10!)
    LET the devil pay for what it started - N O T M E OR Y O U!!
    FATHER JESUS EASILY PROVIDES ESCAPE FORM ALL SINS!!
    (AS ONLY WE ALL SUBMIT TO THE CLEAN HOLY FEAR OF GOD!!!!!)
    DO NOT LET the enemy make a sinful sucker outta Y O U!!!!!
    CAST that wicked one OUT -
    IN FATHER JESUS NAME ONLY PRAYERFULLY SO!! -
    BE REPENTED AND BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS
    AND YE SHALL RECEIVE THE GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST!!!!!ACTS 2 38
    AND ACTIVELY BECOME THE CHRIST LIKE DIFFERENCE AGAINST THIS indifferent world! -
    AND BUILDING & WINNING THE KINGDOM OF GOD - YE ALL WILL OVERCOME AND
    BE MERCIFULLY S A V E D!!!!
    ACTS 2 38 & REVELATION 20:10!!
    IN FATHER JESUS NAME
    ABOVE ALL NAMES A M E N!!!!!!

  • @thompsonpalmer9346
    @thompsonpalmer9346 Před 10 lety +1

    .You are so right in quoting man’s creeds and not the Bible doctrines. If you believe in these creeds you will believe anything. God has sent you a strong delusion to believe this lie because you have not a love for the apostolic doctrine. Your knees will bow and you will confess to ONE GOD, Jesus.

  • @beyondthiscoldplace
    @beyondthiscoldplace Před 11 lety

    People stay in the upci out of fear of hell if they leave. The mental anguish caused is just as bad. My pastor told me if I left I would be lost within 2 years, though I tried to leave on good terms, telling him I was remaining a Christian, just rejecting some of their teachings. Cult

  • @RicardoGarcia-kv8it
    @RicardoGarcia-kv8it Před 4 lety

    19:15 he always tell the bros to clap and shout lol and he never does it himself lol lol I like it when he says this THING is going to grow lol forgive. him Holy Spirit lol

  • @RicardoGarcia-kv8it
    @RicardoGarcia-kv8it Před 4 lety

    25:50 So ministers that have gone out of the UPC movement are cursed lol lol lol so pastor Jenzen Franklin is curse lol lol i want ti see. bro Stoneking to tell pastor Franklin that lol lol lol lol lol 😆

  • @stevepanther8504
    @stevepanther8504 Před 8 lety

    So when the people heard the voice saying "This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased" at Jesus' Baptism, Did Jesus throw his voice as a master ventriloquist or was his Father speaking as the Bible states? UPC just like to argue their old oneness doctrines and false prophets and fake healings. They don't really know God and God does not know them. They are always looking for a sign and no sign will be given them. If you fall away then you can never be saved again according to Hebrews chapter 6.

  • @mikesmith7005
    @mikesmith7005 Před 11 lety

    Actually, "not being able to leave" is not the defining factor of a cult. Look up the definition, there is much more to it. One could easily define the UPC as a cult. Besides, some UPC churches dont allow people to leave without threatening them.

  • @josestirtabudi6247
    @josestirtabudi6247 Před 10 lety +1

    Creeds created by men, not God.

  • @doctorh2005
    @doctorh2005 Před 11 lety

    Rev.Lee denies the Trinity...
    "Oneness" (the doctrine of the United Pentecostal Church) is simply a revived version of the old "Sabellian" heresy, condemned in the Nicene and Athanasian Creeds of Church history.

  • @beyondthiscoldplace
    @beyondthiscoldplace Před 11 lety

    Way to scare people from leaving the upc. I left, and the Lord has never left me. God is good. But the upc is a cult

  • @mikesmith7005
    @mikesmith7005 Před 11 lety

    Amen!