Garbage Truck Power Steering Leak and Saggy Springs
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- čas přidán 14. 01. 2022
- This 2003 International 4300 garbage truck has a power steering leak and the suspension has seen better days. We replace the power steering pump, rear springs, and body mounts.
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Lots of questions about my mini come-along. It's a CM 602 model. Very handy. amzn.to/3fvMzVP
put grease on the gasket,couple spots. just re built a dizy,tiny screws with lock & washers, under a plate. with allen key, grease held them together. & on allen key..
Was going to ask!
ohh yeehh,,havve you ever come across kroil.???.. 22:00.. sorry..
@@harrywalker5836 Hey! Did you not hear his threat to shut the channel down? Your playing with fire....Just sayin! 🤣
We used them at work. They are a life saver . There is a CM plant just across the Tn VA State border where I live.
I love the chuckle following the spring’s release. 😂🤣
You never cease to amaze me with the variety of the rust buckets you repair.
Rusty crusty stuff slows the whole deal down.
and so often more rust than bucket...
You ain't lying this guy is like the superman of mechanics!
Get rid of that old truck y'all why you wanna hang on to a old truck it junk wore out 👎👎👎👎
@Watch Wes Work we’re you able to drive it when you finished it up? If so, did it drive better?
No. It might have actually been worse...
About the only thing I can think of that would be worse to work on than a rusty old garbage truck is a rusty old septic vacuum truck - you are a good man for taking on these projects.
Hopefully, the owner had the decency to wash the smelly trash bin !
@@marcryvon Be thankful for cold weather.
We had a poop pumper show up at our house for a pump out. He had just come from a butcher shop collecting blood and guts from a holding tank. Oh ,the humanity! The difference in our old poop and the nasty truck was the difference between Chanel number five and Taco Bell farts
Absolutely one of the single best mechanics I’ve ever seen work. Most amazing is he does it all himself. Watching Wes Work inspires me.
See what happens when you fix one garbage truck? Now another! You'll end up known as the "Guy who fixes garbage trucks right!" ...for better or worse!
The money is nice, but damn, the heavy lifting sucks ass
And snowplows
I'd be really clear that they come to you clean. Also, specify what clean means.
I did a lot of tires on garbage trucks at the shop I worked at in rural MN. They would leave the trucks loaded over night sometimes and drop them off in the morning. The heat of the summer morning would draw out maggots, they would then fall usually directly were I was working (of course). The last time I did tires on one, a maggot fell down the back of my shirt. At that time I already had another job lined up at the end of the summer. My decision was validated by a maggot. That job nearly broke me mentally and physically, 6 years was well enough service in the tire industry.
After the tour under the truck, I said a prayer for you, truck owners, and the truck.
"If anybody leaves a comment on penetrating oil" - Laughed my ass off. You're a funny guy Wes! Thanks for all your hard work producing these videos.
Wes - A trick my Dad taught me, he was a mechanic for Greyhound after the war (WW2). Use a single strand of sewing thread tied through the bolt holes to hold a gasket on. The thread is so thin it won't interfere or leak. Works great!!
Nice idea!
...or a dab of thick grease.
@@jimcrichton8028 or rtv
I think I have seen someone use a rattlecan sprac that just makes the gasket tacky for this only purpose. If I could just remember what the stuff was named.
yeah they make a gasket spray adhesive it was on south main auto doing a camry transmission pan gasket
I worked on garbage trucks as a young man, I don't miss the smell of dirty diapers in the hot afternoon sun, or wrestling leaf springs under a truck. Sure was fun to watch you do it though ;)
Never leave a comment but today...it sounded like you could use one. Love following your work and your take on life's highs and lows...Tractors to dishwashers. I found you back a while, in a rare cameo on Diesel Creek when Matt was rescuing the loader he currently uses. While waiting for new content...I went back to the CNC machine and Fat Forklift and worked this way...I've got a ways to go. Keep it real, content is king...don't sweat the edits, and cut yourself some slack on the outros.
hear hear!!
Hard to remember when you first come upon a good channel, but I remember when I came upon this one as well, I had just gotten a 7.3 and I just searched and saw Wes, ever since then, always excited for new content
That is one of the things that impresses me. He is very diverse. Shows he is thinking his way through problems. You can't learn that many different things in a classroom. I saw that cameo too.
Ditto Wes. Love the channel ! You're looking like you need a break. Take a vacation somewhere warm, you deserve it.
Watching you remove old rusted on nuts and bolts reminds me of the owner of the service shop I worked at who used to say ‘the impossible just takes a little longer’ Love your channel Wes!
For a one man band Wes, you do a fantastic job, especially on things like this. It is clearly hard work on things so rusty with no help. Well done and don't lose heart in the channel. I'm am sure everyone that watches appreciates your dedication and commitment to doing a professional job.
Indeed; please don't listen to the Monday morning quaterbacks. I'm an electrical power engineer, and watch all of your videos without any judgment. I've bought many tools for myself based on your and Project Farm's experience.
totally . I concur . As someone who is disabled, Wes gives me Amazingly great tips for working on your own and its helped me immensely . Mind you i cant and dont work on Cars/Trucks or anything anymore and havent been able to in decades, the tips and tricks hes taught me for other things is priceless . Helped me to be able to to More than i was capable of or Thought i wasnt able to do . Now i can fix just about anything from watching Him and others . But ill stick to I.T. work as thats my expertise now, keeps me sane and in one piece . Cheers mate .
I am amazed the amount of vehicles that you work on that are in this condition and it’s like there’s no preventative measures put in place to help with the conditions of the vehicle making your life easy anyway Wes Glad to see you’re back on the job
They have laws there. No one can open a car wash. lol
Salted roads will do that.
Up here in Saskatchewan, that kind of rust would be considered catastrophic, and most reputable shops wouldn't touch it for liability reasons!
There is PM and Wes uses it ie.
Anti seize, lock tight, etc. the only problem is that what he fixes, will never have to be re-addressed again, cause those crusty vehicles will have something else fail, or they'll make it to the bone yard first !
Just needed some Kroil for those bolts.....
Hmm. How do you delete a CZcams channel..?
@@WatchWesWork Uhm, say [redacted] about [redacted] has 'worked' if unintentionally for some channels. 🙂
@@WatchWesWork , you had me crying with that remark.
@@WatchWesWork you wanna know the best part.... I typed this before you made that remark! 🤣🤣🤣
That amplified Bobcat bouncing is what aeronautical engineers refer to as "pilot-induced oscillation", when the action of the hand on the joystick just makes matters a whole lot worse!
Those who comment about, you should have used a penetrant haven't dealt with these kinds of issues. They don't know what rust has done to the fasteners, as evidenced by the fact that the threads were galled.
So many times I have tried a penetrant and then had to resort to heat, at which point, I discover why the penetrant didn't work. The threads were too damaged by rust. When you have to struggle getting it out after you heat it red hot, a penetrant would have done exactly nothing. Love that mini-come along. Kind of wish I had a need for one. I will keep that in mind in the event I do need one of those. Thanks for the video. Great troubleshooting, as always.
This is a normal day in a truck shop in Ontario Canada. Been working on this stuff for over 11 years and it never gets easier. Penetrating oil don’t do shit ever lol torches are your best friend. Keep up the good work Wes and stay warm bud. Cheers!
Lay penetrating to it after the heat. Sucks it right in. I know because I have broken more stuff than I would care to talk about. And then had to fix that mess too.
@@bobstratton6362I agreeeeed with that one
I think Dirt Perfect calls a touch a fire wrench.
Every time I see a garbage truck, I get a flashback to the time when I worked at a Ford dealership and a garbage truck broke down on a Friday. It was towed in and parked in the shop in the middle of August in Mississippi. The truck was full of garbage. When we came in on Monday, the smell was indescribable, and maggots were dripping off the truck.
Exact same experience for me in the 1980s. Only words I had to exchange were "Nashville and Labor Day weekend."
Glad to see your back, posting. You take care of yourself!👏👏👏👏👏
Much respect for the work you do Wes. That’s a hard way to make a living.
All in the life of makin an honest dollar!
Yea and our country is in desperate need of more men like him. I agree with you completely.
They've gotta be not only some of the most disgusting trucks to work on, but also the most abused. Every one of them, if they're not brand new, is falling apart and being slapped with bandaid fixes all day too. It's a real treat to work on a fleet of these. The upside is that there's so much to do, you can basically create as much or as little work as you want. You can fix the trucks for exactly what they turn them in for, or fix any other broken problems you see and want to fix. Which can lead to overtime if your shop offers it.
Plus the owners of old vehicles tend to badly maintain their stuff, take it to him as last resort and then complain about the invoice. Classic !
Not a life for the timid. Wess is fearless!
I spent seven years with the DSNY with 25 cubic yard Macks with Loadmaster bodies. I'm not surprised the springs were worn out. The bin men pack them until the hydraulics stall, and I did the same thing. The ride is indeed very bouncy when empty. I'm very tall, and I always managed to hit my head on the cab roof. So job done, top work, and lets see if it come back for more maintenance.
DSNY gets no love 😄
First rule working on garbage trucks.
Never open your mouth when you're under it.
Those moving rice kernels are protein, but don't taste good. Lol.
8:07 A little grease, when clean, can hold the gasket. Also a guide bolt works well when installing.
I like the very subtle and cleaver trick of spinning the bolt with the air impact before removing the nut all the way. Picked up a trick or two working on old rust buckets, ya did.
No idea how much you charged for these repairs but you earned every dollar with this one. Good on you Wes
"That's highway robbery!!!" Fine, have at it yourself. It is what it is. Not like a dry complete repair. You want to play in rust land, you have to pay the price.
That chassis is not built for trash duty of that size... that leach body should be on a 3 axle chassis....
Good luck Wes
That's likely why it sits so low, even on new springs, the back is just too heavy
I always wondered what those little 1/4 ton ratcheting chain falls were useful for. Nice to see one in action. Thanks for the great video Wes!
I keep one in the storage box of my snowmobile, together with a 30 metre roll of rope. Great for getting myself out of trouble…
Someone only has to watch you trying to get these rusted spring bolts out of the carrier to get a good understanding of how bad it can be and why older vehicles can eat you up with labor sometimes. Nice work. I'm sure the garbage truck customers appreciated their normal service didn't have a hicup!
Yeah, it's funny when people get upset when they look up 'book time', and you quote higher than they expected. Maybe when the car was new, that's how long it took to do the job.
I just wanna say that you inspire me to continue working on my junk alone, I truly feel for you like when you were removing the old springs and thought to myself another guy there would just make life so much easier because I find myself in that situation all the time… much respect for you and the job you do, love the videos!! Keep up the awesome work!
The other guy better have cast iron fingers. Cause one of you is gonna take a bad shot.
It's crazy how you can go from fixing Farm equipment to heavy equipment to heavy trucks to cars to golf carts to 4 wheelers to skidoos and whatever else I forgot.... great job you're a great mechanic!
Know that you're making a LOT of lives better - refuse removal is crucial for healthy cities. Thanks Wes!! My office faces the street and every week I watch our collection truck empty our bins. The stop and go nature of the job is savage on those machines.
A torch, the most important tool for Illinois mechanics. My first 35 years living in Chicago taught me. Moved to Phoenix, ZERO rust. Everything comes off like it was installed yesterday. Mechanics are spoiled out here. Well done as usual.
As a Canadian - we kind of know a thing or two on road salt and rust. The bright entrepreneur has his fleet oil-based rust proofed yearly. And maintenance crews are happy ! The equipment last way longer, is easier to fix and all. And money is saved in the med to long haul. Simple logic. Same with Rust Belt cars !
Once again Wes shows us the glamourous side of being a mechanic...
You are right Wes, very few options when dealing with a fastener in a galded condition.
Magnitudes of force multiplication are required. A 7X rivet gun is no bueno, get a IR 40X demolition hammer, (what we used to drive out landing gear pins on C-141’s).
You already have a Victor torch handle, use a #8 Rosebud instead of your cutting attachment.
When you put your impact on a bolt and the harmonics equate to banging on a piece of railroad track with a 20 pound sledge, put all of everyday tools away and go straight to the heavy artillery. Your chances of victory increase exponentially when you fight fire with nuclear weapons.
Have tried a lot of penetrating oils over the past 40 years. Kroil, Schaefer, PB, etc… still say plain old used motor oil works well for me.
But in the end you know what they say in the heartland, “Your hog, your corn”. Best to you.
Motor oil and heat works wonders indeed.
This shows how close we are to complete societal collapse and anarchy..without waste management, or garbage removal, our country would cease to exist. This repair, although unglamorous, difficult, frustrating is actually a great PATRIOTIC ENDEAVOR!!!
Encouraging to know there are others who see the world this way. Sometimes I think it's just me.
@@Brad-lt6mr Amen.
It's certainly not just you.
Watching your ongoing battle with rusty fasteners never ceases to amaze. Great video as always. Stay warm.
Dude you are definitely my favorite CZcams channel! I would give anything to be your gofor and oil change tire guy! You dry humor and tung in cheek wise cracks are just so spot on! So if you can use a guy to hand you a tool give me a call! Took early retirement so I work cheap!!! Oh almost forgot to say the main reason I enjoy your videos is because they are just so edjumacational!
Glad to see some real wrenching back again. Real life problems real life solutions. What people don't really think of is the smell, repaired landfill equipment for years. Not a smell that just goes away. Nice work wes
Amazing work Wes, your ability to get these rusted out junkers fixed never fails to impress. Loved the comment about penetrating oil gave me a chuckle, vastly overrated when compared to heat! Makes for great content watching your skills when up against it. Best wishes from the UK 🇬🇧
It is overrated for sure. But more important its not applicaple for a situation like seen in the video and therefore will not work. It will neither creep into the threads, nor help to crack that bolt loose.
All its for is to lube an exposed thread with rust build up when you remove a nut. So that the nut doesnt get stuck half way out.
Thanks for Posting Wes so many would have scrapped the video. Real life that's what we are here for. Sometimes you just have to get the job done. Saw enough to understand and great explanation conclusion. We thank you for what you can bring to us and your explanations and commentary are uniquely you. Dazza from Australia
Watching you fight with that gasket is painful. That's where I loved Permatex "High Tack" spray. I'm sure it helps seal well, but what I loves was the way it would hold a gasket in place during assembly. Those body mounts are common in my part of the world, but you did an awesome job with a video clip to demo what was wrong.
or a few tiny drops of Superglue? I’m no mechanic.
@@fantared5263 Superglue can cause chemical damage to some plastics and seals. I never risk it.
I enjoy all your videos....I also understand being self employed.....no reason to apologize for the way the videos get put together when it is your honesty and work ethic that brings work into your garage- without that, there would be no videos anyway. Do what you have to do.....and hold onto your sense of humor.
Some day your son may want to 'join the firm' and help his Dad make repairs happen. An extra hand or two can sometimes be very useful. Thanks for the video and I'm glad the truck is on the road once more. Stay as warm as you can!
Those springs were toast. Actually had a reverse bend going on. I’m very fortunate to have a great truck spring shop about 20 miles from me in downtown Louisville. Take them a spring pack and they will build one for you - most times the same day. They also custom-bend U-bolts. I’m spoiled, I guess.
Ha! another person who knows about Bill's Auto Spring. Small world. I work for Wheatly's Truck Service in Clarksville, IN. Lol
Sounds like they can really spring in to action for you.
All I can think of, is the spring shops by Wes do mostly short production run business, and only take in odd jobs as filler. They might only work on those between production runs.
I think vehicle archeology best describes the part extraction. More respect to you for this effort.
Changing springs on heavy equipment is a young mans game ,not for old guys like me LOL
You have the heart of a lion Wes. Well done on that job. Understand that your customer comes first and that you didn't have time to set up cameras. Stay safe you and yours, Norm.
You are the Man Wes, as always good content and an excellent job.
I'm behind you 100% West keep up the good work man
I started my apprenticeship in the early 70s when cars were much simpler and bigger. So much room on the engine compartment and many times your wife's nail file cleaned the points, you cigarette package provided a feeler gauge and you were on your way. Don't know how you keep so much information in your head without it exploding. Keep up the great work.
If one person says anything about penetrateing oil I'm shutting the channel down I laughed out loud, we have all been there man
Finally someone on youtube said it out loud. Penetrating oil is useless in this situation.
I'm disappointed that the truck doesn't have a snowplow hitch. It was born to have one.
Don't give them ideas!
What you really need is the worlds largest Evaporust dip tank.
Half the stuff he works on he could just put in the tank and they would disappear.
I love watching the variety of machines you work on. Your knowledge is priceless 👍
Ok , let’s not break Wes ‘s , uh , chops about penetrating oil . It could be us having to working next to the hopper of a garbage truck . Ya know ?
This had me remembering when I was working in a junkyard as a kid . I was helping old Bob take the wheels off a truck . Eight lug full floating wheels . Practically every lug was TIGHT . He got out the acetylene torch and heated them up and i was to work them off . I asked Bob if I should get some tranny fluid to lube the studs . He said , “ I could get a girl to do this right now “ . I just went with it .
I never messed with old Bob , he was about 6 foot 6 or so , smoked camels and kept a 1903 Springfield rifle in his trunk . A veteran of Korea and ‘ Nam . My normal response to old Bob after he told me to do sometching was “ yes sir “ . I give Wes the same respect . He works hard .
Thanks for todays video. I was going through Watch Wes Work withdrawal. I think I'll soak myself in a tub of penetrating oil.
Only people that have never worked on rusty equipment would suggest penetrating oil
The struggle is real brother
Who ever came up with the idea of salting the roads is resting in hell for sure
Up here in Canada a little trick I've been using an old farm mechanic showed me was to spray the under side of all my vehicles with used motor oil and transmission fluid twice a year
Lately I been using bar and chain oil two coats seems to last longer and doesn't wear off as quick
Thank you for the great videos brother
Have a great day and thanks again
Just saying
It amazes me that none of the vehichles Wes gets in has been treated with fluid film, a bitumen type of product or even waste oil. Around here, a bitumen-based product called Tectyl was very popular before. Not so much now, as factory rust treatment is usually much better than it used to be.
I love it that you're out there getting it done! Thank you for the laughs and heartbreak. The rust you deal with is AMAZING.
Phenomenal video. When I saw that truck entering garage just paused and clicked thumbs up.
You ending comment is great. As someone who used to be a mechanic that moved on to an office job back in 2015, I have to say... it is not bad at all.
Wes, you get all the best jobs!
I thoroughly enjoy your content. I drive a truck and farm on the side. Your stuff is helpful and fun to watch
Mrs Wes probably needs a shout out for tolerating the “bouquet” in the yard while this truck was around.
BRUTE force every day.
Pen-oils might work but BRUTE force always wins.
Great job Wes! Always love your videos. I am a heavy equipment mechanic so I can relate to your struggles with rust haha
Happy New Year Wes, Love the dry humor on the "penetrating Oil" Made me Laugh. Totally agree on how some business's stay in business. I have often said the exact same comment on some of the business's that i come across.
Don't you love those vehicles that keep coming back forever.........
Wes, Do your back a favor and get a wheel rack for those big tires, had one in my HD shop forever. Our favorite tool!!
I just recently discovered your channel and it is my new favorite. Thank you for the work that goes into these videos.
Glad you enjoy it!
I learned a new trick at 11:50. We don't get salt down here, but some of the rusty farm equipment can sure be troublesome. Thanks for that. I've always used a hammer to loosen like you did with the impact. Doh! Thanks for the lesson professor!
Imagine living out near Wes and you’re just walking your dog on the side of the road and all the sudden someone comes hammering down the road in an old, bouncing garbage truck 😂
Dealing with springs, that's why I love living 2 miles away from Decatur spring. It'll be a sad sad day when the old man finally retires out there.
My Saturday just got a little brighter and better! Great work Wes don't burn yourself out. I'd love to see a video on some of these new def systems that diesels are running, not sure how often you get to piddle with that.
Not going to mention what you did not want us to mention. I feel your struggle Wes and your complete frustration. I myself work on heavy equipment and had a heavy equipment and truck shop back in the 80's. Mostly work on Forklifts these days. Great vid man. Hang tough and hope to catch you again soon.
I had a power steering leak that I couldn't find on an 89 Toyota 4 runner, The truck also smoked pretty bad, so I was going to get rid of it. I had to wait and drive it like that for a while. One day I had a vacuum leak and noticed the vacuum line was oily. Turned out the vacuum switch on the power steering pump had failed and was pulling power steering fluid into the intake. I replaced that vacuum switch; no more smoking and power steering was sealed. Got another 100k miles out of that truck.
No one but Northerners understand RUST…..WES you are a super mechanic.
I had a buddy years ago who used to repair the loading area in trucks like these. He'd work for up to 24 hours straight cutting out old metal and replacing it. He'd wear one pair of overalls and throw them away after the job was complete because they'd smell so bad he couldn't clean them. I never understood how he could work with maggots dropping on him and the foul smell but it never bothered him.
You've got an infinite amount of patience with all that rust. I've lived in Texas my whole life and I can't even imagine dealing with that.
The stink coming from that Truck, is known as "The Smell Of Money." Good job Wes
You’ve got a unicorn there. The rebound pins never come out that easy.
Wow that's crazy about the obsolete pump. I can't imagine how many 4300s are still on the road, but I'd believe they'll do anything trying to get you to buy a new truck
P.S. Obligatory "You gotta use this one $20 brand of penetrating oil" comment
Very glad to see you back in the saddle. I know you work hard every day and filming just adds to that. I just want to let you know how much enjoyment I get from your videos. I am a RN by trade and a classic car parts changer by choice. (1965 Pontiac Tempest) I use your common sense approach to assist in my automotive problem solving. Your content is much appreciated.
Thanks for this video. It reminds me of a time before all this snow…. Ah the memories.
"If I get one 1 comment about penetrating oil I'm shutting er down". How right you are! Great job. I believe spring replacement's are your calling. "You must Love it!"
I like how you end this with a dream about the boring office job.. I've worked in tech for 20+ years and I dream of working on things a bit more straight forward, and using my hands. Don't get me started on middle managers =)
Great video, Wes! I astounded that it is economically viable to run such an old vehicle in a first world country. Really amazing.
She's just getting broken in.
@@WatchWesWork hahahahaahahahahahahaahah!!!!! hufflepuff wrecking, recycling, and fix-it shop! :)
I usually use a 36 inch crescent wrench to control the leaf spring or. 48 inch pipe wrench especially the Mack cammel springs.
Good idea!
20:00 : Load-cell bolts are enough of a pain to take out when the truck's only a couple of years old, nevermind after nearly 20 years of getting a soaking in salt & bin-juice regularly!
'Fond' memories of three of us swinging on an 8 foot tube with a socket welded to it, trying to wind bolts out a sixth of a turn at a time....
Wes, the waste hauler might soon want to remove the fuel cap and replace everything under it.
Fuel cap? Too low on the tree. Jack up the radiator cap and replace everything under it.
C'mon now, at least one of the knobs on the radio is still good.
Wes, if you need an ice scraper, you could make one from the truck springs. Where the spring attaches to the handle, cut it out with the blue tip wrench, and then your handle won't break the weld as this annealed the temper by cutting it.
Loved the "W" shaped springs at 10:50. LOLOLOLOLOL
I see the grass is green again. Too bad, the cold winter we've had would've surely helped with the smell when working on it. My uncle spent many years at the Leach plant in Oshkosh until they moved ops to Alberta in 2004.
Hey Wes, this is some exciting “all in a days work” for you. You have the tools and the ability so the owner of that truck can get more years out of it saving him some real money. Now, if you can get them to bring their equipment in for regular maintenance you’ll have some boring videos. I like your content.
Nice one Wes. Magnified/transferred oscillation due to the degraded suspension. Gonna tell my family members in your area to beware of rusty garbage trucks. 😂 No surprise that Navistar/International wouldn't have that pump considering they were so well managed over the last 25 years. 😁
New truck makes them more money then a tiny pump
Holy crap at all them Illinois Elusive potholes @Watch Wes Work
You really do get the nicest examples of vehicles on the road
Wes, I really appreciate the time you take to make these excellent videos. Your analytical approach is great, and the variety of jobs you get is very interesting. That vehicle brings new meaning to the phrase "garbage truck".