Do You Have a STRONG Bow Arm? | Bow Arm Reaction For Better Scores
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- čas přidán 13. 04. 2022
- A strong bow arm is something all archers talk about. Shooting tight groups in archery won't happen without a rock solid bow arm... I show you how to analyze your own form to find out if you are headed in the right direction when it comes to your bow arm reaction after letting go of the string.
Link to Tension and Direction Video:
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My thanks as well! Been spending the last few months working specifically on my form and all the tiny details. mostly shoot Trad but when I can sell a kidney and get Olympic kit them all of these videos will seriously help me get competition ready. Thank ye squire!
Thank you for supporting this channel! Glad to help out!
Following the same reasoning, your hook on the string at anchor is higher than your bow shoulder, which creates an angle that requires downward force to hold your bow arm in place. This means that your bow arm should also pop down slightly on release, not due to the weight of the bow, but because that is where you are pushing.
Yes I've heard a lot of "don't torque the bow" from club coaches making people more rigid sometimes. This is part of natural movent fluidity. Thanks for explaining.
This! Was! Helpful!! Thank you.
thanks! Helpful as always.
Just found this one - some out of misplaced tradition adamantly resist this - you explain it so well and have the personal credentials to back it up - your videos are such an amazing resource - they advance the sport - thank you!
Going to pay attention to this tonight. Any tips on which muscles to train to strengthen and stabilize the bow arm? Maybe some exercises that are easy to do without special equipment?
Excelente, muito bom! Me ajudou muito
Strong, unwavering bow!! Unequivocally true!!
We need more videos Jake!!
Great vídeo.
Hi Jake, thanks for this video. Simple, make sense and useful to be share with some of my younger team member.
Could you please share a video on mental/psychological preparation towards a tournament? Me personally experienced a drop in score during tournament compared to practice day. The drop sometimes quite significant. Thanks a lot, Jake. Take care and stay safe.
Just like Brian, I always assumed that the bow hand should remain perfectly still. Your explanation that the hand should move slightly to the left upon release makes logical sense. it seems a matter of offsetting tensions. Thank you so very much.
Glad to help, thanks for being a channel member!
Extra thanks for this one! I've been trying to force/hold my bow arm to not move left or right (I'm right-handed) at all after the shot. I have something new to work on once the rain stops.
Thanks for being a channel member! Happy to offer you early access to the videos!
I spent hours videoing my form and arm working to reduce/eliminate movement of bow arm after release undet my coach in college.
His shirt got me 🤣🤣(rolling on the floor laughing)
SO relatable!!
Great explanation on why the bow arm “should” move to the outside
Great video, thank you. Could you do a video on breathing within the shot cycle? When do you hold your breath? Do you hold your breath? Do you shoot on an out or in breath? Etc. I'd also be interested to hear how this relates to timing and lactic acid build up. Thank you again, Jake.
czcams.com/video/P8DzVJDsgzE/video.html Have you seen this video?
My apologies. I don't know how I missed this. I'll have to go back and re-watch your form series as I'm sure parts will make more sense to me now. Thank you. I'm loving my Hoyt Xceed riser by the way, thanks for the review video.
Ill add one piece of advice that was passed on to me many years ago that i never forgot and always make it a part of my warm up and form check …..” A strong and steady bow arm can make up for a a less than perfect release BUT a perfect release cannot make up for a weak and erratic bow arm “ …
Hopefully the next video will tell us how to fix this issue 😁
Have you seen this video? czcams.com/video/v90Zx5sqKW8/video.html This is how you get the correct reaction.
Very informative. My bow arm moves to the right as a left hander. Unfortunately due to other flaws in my technique (plucked release, collapsing, high bow shoulder etc.). I have difficulty obtaining consistent results.
Very interested in your discussion of the effect human anatomy has on the shot. In future videos could you cover the plus and minus of different body types in archery. For example broad-narrow chest, short-long arms etc.
Have you tried the 212 formation? 😁
I don’t think I’ve ever seen any video instruction regarding the “Bow Arm” before!
Thx for the video, where do you get these elastic bands?
There are many collapsing reasons and thanks to you I fixed most of them, especially working on my alignment problems (not all so please keep posting great barebow form videos ;) ). "Looking for the arrow is bad" is something I try to explain to young archers with the concept of the "persistence of the aim, the shot is ending only when the arrow stops moving".
Another thing to watch out for when i practice, thanx. For info about horsbows, check Justin Ma from The way of archery on youtube, he gives a good detailed explenation how to shoot (heavy) warbows, and why do it like that. And yes, a lot is the same as we do.
hi jake. care to make a clip about comparing different arrows over 70m? how well do they group compared to x10 with same vanes and same points and same length?
Hi, Jake! I shoot a 40 pound longbow, right handed, and it seems quite comfortable, at least there is no problem drawing and coming at full draw, the bowarm moves left after the shot just exCTLY they way you show, but I guess my arms are too unequal in strength. After 30-40 shots I really see my bowarm elbow shake and it pisses me off a lot, can not concentrate after. Does this really mean overbowing? Or maybe there is a couple of exercises to mend this? Thanks in advance!
Very informative. I've definitely put more focus on my draw arm and release form and hadn't considered the bow arm as much. I'm right handed and am one of those "peekers". A guy at my local range brought it up to me a few weeks ago and now seeing this video backs that up. My question to you is would stabilizers help with bow arm form? Thanks for your insight.
They will help keep it steady but once again, you still need to be able to deal with the weight of the bow with the added weights/stabilizers
Thank you. Last 2 videos remind me of things my coach had us do when I shot in college.
So, as a visually impaired archer I use a tactile "pointer" touching the back of my bow hand to assist in aiming; In short my bow hand won't easily move left on the shot as my aiming stand is on my left as is my point of contact with the stand... "Left and forward" causes the contact point of my stand and hand to scratch up the back of my hand... Any alternatives or suggestions?
I always thought that when releasing the arrow, the movement of the bow arm is straight towards the target
In other shooting sports they teach that you use bones to resist force, not muscles. In my experience in archery this didn't work. Your bow arm can resist the string force pulling the riser into your hand, but back tension is pulling the bow to the left for a right-handed archer. Maintain back tension and release, and the bow arm wants to throw the bow to the left. With fingers your brain knows when the shot is going to break and you can do things with your bow arm that you don't realize but when shooting a back tension release you don't know when the shot will break and you can see if your bow arm wants to go left or whatever. I learned to use arm muscles to hold the pin on the gold through the release and follow through. This worked for me and worked pretty well. I always wondered if this was correct form because it is contrary to some other shooting sports, but i decided that due to the unbalance of back tension what I was doing to hold the pin on the gold was the way it needed to be done. I've heard your videos talk about push-pull and essentially I was pushing the pin away from me directly into the gold.
Couldn't have come at a better time. I was thinking about it lately. Can you also cover bow grip in detail and how to keep palm stable? Because your arm and string are at an a angle how to avoid the grip not slide out in your palm. Also what is ideal from body mechanics low grip or high grip.
Love the TShirt.
This video covers bow arm control: czcams.com/video/ROpGr80sL-0/video.html
This one covers bow grip: czcams.com/video/vT7ioHh_0NM/video.html
Have you seen those?
@@JakeKaminskiArchery apparently not.... that helps. Thank you again.
It's spot on for asiatic bows. It's the only natural movement possible with proper tension. In some disciplines there's also a downwards and or side movement of the wrist.
Thanks for the input
Out of curiosity is that the same as khatra? (Fan of but not practitioner of thumb shooting)
@@jshankar1000 yes, that wrist movement. If well timed and executed, the arrow doesn't touch nor bend much around the bow, allowing for a few more fps and the ability to shoot a wider range of spines. The way to grip the bow facilitates such fast movement.
The problem is that the extra motion adds another variable for inaccuracies. Takes a lot of practice and broken arrows :p
As far as accuracy goes, I prefer the side movement, torque as some call it.
@@guilhermevieira4353 thanks👍
Hi jake , will you please make a video on the axcel contour Pro tab ?
Its on the list along with lots of stuff!
@@JakeKaminskiArchery my man , I'm really grateful to you , in the past year and a half I've gained more knowledge about archery from your channel than training 4 years with my coaches , when I bring that Olympic gold home , remember it's because of you 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Hi Jake. This is something that I have started to suffer from since going up in bow weight. Do you have a video or recommendation for exercises to effectively counter this. Thanks in advance.
Have you seen these two videos? czcams.com/video/OTy7kgFriC0/video.html czcams.com/video/YfKUpZvTAFw/video.html They are older but help with strength. This video czcams.com/video/ROpGr80sL-0/video.html talks about bow arm control.
Hope this helps.
@@JakeKaminskiArchery thanks.Also picked up the book assuming it will contain all the info and help I need. Keep up the great work
Any advice on helping my 13 year old son he's bending his bow elbow apon release idk y he does it I think it's just a bad habit could u do a video on this please he's shooting nasp and his highest score is 228
Hello jake..... i have a very weak bow arm 😞 and it shake alot in can u produce me some excercise or any tips
Isometric hold with arm extended. Hold as long as you can. Can use any type of weight or your bow itself
How can I avoid collapsing, changing my draw length?
So my arm definitely goes right .. how do you develop a strong arm (p.s I'm almost 60 yrs old so is it just lack of strength ?)
Do you lock out the bow arm to keep it completely straight?
Newton's law, for every action there is a reaction.
Hello Jake, this is Florence from Hong Kong. I'm a beginner of playing archery. May I know where I can buy this training string online and deliver to Hong Kong please? Thank you.
hello florence , just wanna tell you that you can just buy a rubber tube and make it into a circle and it'll be the same
The movement of the bow hand (forward and down) is a conscious movement?
Sort-of. It's a reaction... Part of the follow through which is not an action but rather a reaction of the tension you have built up within the system and when the tension of the bow string breaks, the movements after are that reaction.
Alright, I had been practicing Olympic Recurve 3 to 4 days a week for some time last year in anticipation of going to various tournaments. In late December, COVID went through our house, and things being kinetic as they are, I only picked up my bow to start practicing again a couple of weeks ago. Before the time off, I could easily draw for 70 shots per practice. Now, I seem to poop out about 25 shots or so. I mostly lose the ability to grip the string . . . fingers are weaker. Sure the back muscles seem to be a bit weaker, but the finger strength is what is killing me.
I have searched the internet for strength trainers, but can't seem to find one that is just right. I absolutely can't stand the surgical tubing type methods because as you pull back, the tubing scrunches your fingers together, which is not at all what happens in a normal draw . . . well not that much anyhow. What I would like is something that has a string that angles when I pull it similar to how my bow string is angled upon full draw. Also prefer to have an actual grip in the front hand, but that is not as important. Needs to be portable so I can practice draw at work or anywhere. My actual full draw weight is 38lbs, so I would like it to be at least 38lbs or greater.
Need to get the forearm and fingers stronger. Can you please help? Tubes and bands just won't cut it. At 54 years old, I need strengthening tools as much as technique.
Thats very interesting. What poundage are you shooting? Finger strength has never been an issue I have encountered.
😁 im not paying for that you can
If the arrow is in flight does it really matter?
Yes, as the reaction after the shot shows the tension built up while the arrow is still in the bow. Does it matter? Not if EVERY shot you made was the same, but its near impossible to do. Controlling the system with forgiveness in mind is ideal.
guess I need to start working on my bow arm DX poor wet noodle