This was the plan of the state before even this case began that they will no payments should be paid deliberately to sabotage and wat to collapse this case
Why is it that the law cost so much? Our kids qualify for higher education and loose out because we don't have. We look at those higher easy peasy. Lord help us
People are quick to point fingers at Ratha !! Yes I don’t agree with how he conducts himself at times . I however find it very disturbing that these so called advocates too this long to make this application which they have known about. I am not sure what their intentions are whether they are making this fragile case a money making scheme. It’s just ridiculous how these people take this case.
Isono shame ngabo coz everyone who live in SA siyaz ukuth uLongwe owambulala uSenzo... Today bayamveza ufakaz but AboGininda zange bebaveze naboZandy ey eSA Aycha bandla 😂😂😂
When Judge Ratha raised his concern about black judges there was a lot of noise. Why did they wait from August until April? They enjoy wasting time like our government.
Akukho mgodi wokucasha lapha wena, ayikho into eyiqiniso kuleli cala. But ngiyolokhu ngishilo,umuntu owadubula uSenzo wayesendlini, there was no intruders, finish.
They handled it so well,finances are the main course of those who lack it to be jailed even when they're not guilty .Big up to the defence for trying all they can
Yes this is conspiracy why legal aid are now so much are they not supposed to help the needy or who can't afford to help themselves. Yoh they are now with the state nna I'm lost now they are the ones who confuse defence
This Ratha is concerned about time wasted by defense but says nothing to Baloyi who calls all sorts of useless policemen who were not even in that Spaza shop mnxxm
The defense was still accumulating funds first before they asked for assistance there's nothing wrong that the defense did but the judge is also disruptive during the proceedings that alone is confusing and tricky. No train smash on that even if it takes two years. The state has been playing for 10 years already on this case.
@@ernestmlambo166engathi uwe ohlulwa isingisi. They only made the application on the 5th of April this year. Bebehlaleleni bengayenzi sonke lesi sikhathi? And umzwile umama wakwa Legal Aid echaza nokuthi abashongo nokuthi umalini abacela ukusizwa ngawo? That's utterly ridiculous 😒.
Weleleeee!!! Ay lama professionals ethu🙆♂️🤦♂️. I hear all the comments, but why make the application on the 5th of April 2024 when they discussed this matter back in August of last year!? That's the most pertinent issue. And why apply for funding without divulging the costs involved?
@@mondisematshana5597 The defence has a right to ask the judge to compel any witness to come to court, the defence also failed to request the judge to call Mjiyago to the witness stand
I think this is why they want to meet judge in chambers and off cause he can see he's going to waste his time that's why he did not agree 💯 to meet in chambers 😂😂😂
This advocates. Stories,Stories.... This is a joke.You 100 % they now and do nothing.Sentece all of them .And then this advocates can answers them .Shame for you
There is an explanation if defence think the balastic expert can exonerate their clients so be it if the legal aid board is captured then u use other resources if takes 2 years let it be
@butha55 bru, they only applied for funding on the 5th of April, but basho last year ukuthi bazobiza their own ballistics expert to refute the state witness' testimony. Bebehlaleleni bengayenzi sonke lesi sikhathi? Phezu kwalokho abasho ukuthi jow much this expert of theirs will cost? So u Legal Aid kumele ubhule ukuthi bafuna ifunding kamalini? Musani ukudlala ngo Legal Aid🤦♂️.
Uyabonake le abangeni oBaloyi no Ratha, it's all on the defense. Bebehlaleleni bengayenzi i application for funding bazi kahle ukuthi abasolwa abanayo imali yokukhokhela usolwazi ozothula ubufakazi ngesibhamu esasetshenziswa ukubulala uSenzo? August kuthulwa ubufakazi ngesibhamu, bona bacela uncedo lwezimali manje ngo April? Kahleni bo!
What about the 10 years that has lapsed icala lingathethwa, ekabani ke i delay lapho, stop this excitement eninayo, defence ayenzelutho nje, so akenphume kubo, babhekene nsma millionaires phela, give the a break😮
But even the defence is delaying this trial its been 8 months not yet finalised to bring their expect i dont like judge but this time he was telling the truth
The judge does not repremand baloyi when there is a delay .
Can i check,,, were there delays encountered from the state side? Pls share
😂😂😂😂
Uyahlanya Baloyi is competent
Ngyaphinda futhi ngithi sekuseduze bavele ababulali Baka Senzo Mr meyiwa 😂 please God
Haibonah can these be true now I believe Advocate Teffo about the plan of the case
This was the plan of the state before even this case began that they will no payments should be paid deliberately to sabotage and wat to collapse this case
This is a true display of naked incompetence displayed by the defence especially Mnisi.
Disappointing indeed
bengithi ngizobabona abameli befuna umgodi la enkantolo abazocasha kuwona 😂😂😂
U advocate teffo wakhuluma kuthi basebenzela ugininda chicco twala
I think if you are poor nothing works fr you
I agree with you. Rich people get things done even on weekends and holidays
Happy that you are in this space
Kule Mantshi ikhanda lìkhulu ubala
So abameli sekuyavela ukuthi bayingxenye yokucindezela abasolwa.Sonke leskhathi bebehlaleleni😮
Why is it that the law cost so much? Our kids qualify for higher education and loose out because we don't have. We look at those higher easy peasy. Lord help us
Please GodUma bekhipha umphefmulo wakhebewukhona baveze Nkosi
What about umngomezu
People are quick to point fingers at Ratha !! Yes I don’t agree with how he conducts himself at times . I however find it very disturbing that these so called advocates too this long to make this application which they have known about. I am not sure what their intentions are whether they are making this fragile case a money making scheme. It’s just ridiculous how these people take this case.
Bawswele nini umgodi wokcasha aw hhay kahle bo Sthembiso
Bawuswele sibili ngamanga abawaqambile
Inaba lokuswela umgodi wokucasha, ai akenmeni nani
Isono shame ngabo coz everyone who live in SA siyaz ukuth uLongwe owambulala uSenzo... Today bayamveza ufakaz but AboGininda zange bebaveze naboZandy ey eSA Aycha bandla 😂😂😂
They were exposed on their incompetence
Kumoshwa imali ye state la😢
Yerrr ei Mnisi disappoints me
Ratha is trying by all means to discredit the defense
U can see that the person they want is Ntanzi if he goes free the state will have to pay big time
They need to be discredited vele. Their delay from August to April is unacceptable.
@@CeeMotsoeneng100% correct
He has concluded on what was a very clear case.. They are guilty
Ngalabofakazi bamaphoyisa ababengekho espaza house, kuchithwa iskhathi vele yilengudulu kaVaseline.
Yazi, lento enekhanda elicwebezela ungathi isende lenja
Oscar was well-informed addressed the judge as '... my Lady'
Mnisi speaks very well
And lies very well
When Judge Ratha raised his concern about black judges there was a lot of noise. Why did they wait from August until April? They enjoy wasting time like our government.
Yes 100% correct
Money milking tactics,,, thats lawyers for you,,, collecting and collecting and dragging cases
Ayikho leyonto yini efihlwa abameli ngoba nakhu ku amend ama affidavit. No Gimba banikwa ama cellphone ukuthi bawa investigate kodwa kuqala ngabo baningi abasolwa ejele abatholwa nama cellphone abaphenywa..babenzani ogimba calakabusha ebusuku
Kumoshwa imali ye State la😢
Ngaze ngasimosha isikhathi sami ngithi ngizozwa iqiniso😢
Benza ngabomu o gimba nomloyi nogogo ba confuse yonke lento ugogo uvele aqambele abammeli amanga nhoba naboke behlonipha bathule usiphikisa uthini isalukazi
Mr 50 years experience liyakuhlula lelicala kungani unganikezi omunye usaba lobaloyi angakhuluma nje uvele ulokhunqekuzisa ikhanda nganthi awunantamo
You’ll be suprised soon
And yet u failed to pay Mngomezulu😢
But who invented Mngomezulu in the trail not legal aid but Ramosepele so he was supposed to pay mngomezulu
I'm not sure who invented Mngomezulu, but I'm sure his parents did 😂😂😂
Eish leyo it's Soo painful
Akukho mgodi wokucasha lapha wena, ayikho into eyiqiniso kuleli cala.
But ngiyolokhu ngishilo,umuntu owadubula uSenzo wayesendlini, there was no intruders, finish.
😂 follow up the case !!
@@nosiphomkhize9264khululeka siyalilandela icala, futhi we're not stupid ukbona i delay yama witness ayinkulungwane, so chill
Only God's know 😢Kaz yin le uSenzo anidlela yona ey indlala iyanibulala Ratha I baloyi n gininda😢😢
I wonder they needed umgodi for what cause nna I don't see any train smash also Ratha is concern ABT I can't remember answer
They handled it so well,finances are the main course of those who lack it to be jailed even when they're not guilty .Big up to the defence for trying all they can
Yes this is conspiracy why legal aid are now so much are they not supposed to help the needy or who can't afford to help themselves. Yoh they are now with the state nna I'm lost now they are the ones who confuse defence
They wasted time, is that hard to understand his complain?
This Ratha is concerned about time wasted by defense but says nothing to Baloyi who calls all sorts of useless policemen who were not even in that Spaza shop mnxxm
Same here🎉
Hay bo!!!!baswele umgodi wokungena ngamagama athini?
The defense was still accumulating funds first before they asked for assistance there's nothing wrong that the defense did but the judge is also disruptive during the proceedings that alone is confusing and tricky. No train smash on that even if it takes two years. The state has been playing for 10 years already on this case.
Uyanhlanya 8 months to apply and get quote
Ubaloyi naye uyayenza i delay akalethe ama eye witness
😢 again postponed ijooh 😭
Mina angisalibheki lelicala linamanga linobuqili nejaji lakhona angilizwa noBaloyi wakhona uma evula umlomo wakhe nje ngivala i tv
Ubummenemene njee lapha kuphela kaze ubani lona one malini yonke abamesabayo kodwa kuyayiwa khabo jesu 😢
i GIVE UP ON THE sENZO mEYIWA CASE, always we see irrelevant withnesseswill come back when Kelly K comes too
That’s the most important witness
All amounts to story for children..
May Senzo's soul rest in peace..
We are dealing with seasoned liars here this side
At High Court, replies are addressed to the judge '... my Lord"
Its not there yet bcoz everything is money and everything had to go via certain processes like anyone
What a shameful case carry on like amateurs
Nale 1 month efunwayo yokudlala nje akukho okuyokwenzeka la.......Senzo akatilalele aphumule wa Meyiwa.
Ey bengikthemba yaz
Why ubuza ubaloyiumsabani lobaba ubaloyi.
8 months this case already delayed from 2014 Defence not serious at all
Baloyi is something that i can't understand 👁️👀👁️👀👁️👀👁️
Prosecutor
Udoti womuntu loyo
how could he have started on the report without approval for payment??
This advocates is fo lazy.Sies, do rather garden work.
Amanga ukuphela
He is lying lomnisi Lo....wish they can find them guilty and sentence
According to me a Delay is coming from the defence lawyers, from last year ungust they just submitted their request 2 weeks back that's a problem
Do you understand isingisi noma ifrench,defense yafuna imali kodwa ilegal aid no respond
@@ernestmlambo166engathi uwe ohlulwa isingisi. They only made the application on the 5th of April this year. Bebehlaleleni bengayenzi sonke lesi sikhathi? And umzwile umama wakwa Legal Aid echaza nokuthi abashongo nokuthi umalini abacela ukusizwa ngawo? That's utterly ridiculous 😒.
Yes maybe English is a problem i defence lawyers i apply ku Lega aid board 2 weeks back Why from last year ungust,umbuzo uthi why maybe uyazi wena
😢😢😢only now
Weleleeee!!! Ay lama professionals ethu🙆♂️🤦♂️. I hear all the comments, but why make the application on the 5th of April 2024 when they discussed this matter back in August of last year!? That's the most pertinent issue. And why apply for funding without divulging the costs involved?
Nganekwane
Insumansumane straight
Why is SENZO MEYIWA case to techinical and refusing to end
Too much lies, framing, it is cooked and there is no truth, why doesn't state bring people who were in the house
Too much lies, framing, it is cooked and there is no truth, why doesn't state bring people who were in the house
Lies and truths
@@mondisematshana5597
The defence has a right to ask the judge to compel any witness to come to court, the defence also failed to request the judge to call Mjiyago to the witness stand
Ayikho into elungile kulecala
Yaz makukhuluma lobaloi ngevele ngidineke nje unamanga lobaba yeses
He is prosecutor do you expect him to side with the defence! People
Don’t understand the law at all
😂 you guys nihlekisa ngathi as black personnel
What the defense was doing from August up to two weeks back?
And people want this case to run as they wish, Baloi please do your work baba bakuthanda bangathandi
29 May is coming we will see 🙄
8 months?!!
I think this is why they want to meet judge in chambers and off cause he can see he's going to waste his time that's why he did not agree 💯 to meet in chambers 😂😂😂
Example of incompetant defence lawyers.
This advocates. Stories,Stories....
This is a joke.You 100 % they now and do nothing.Sentece all of them .And then this advocates can answers them .Shame for you
Nxumalo is a visit in this case
Is waar
Ratha and Baloyi are finished the funds of legal aid😮😮😮😮
Ballistic "expect"
😮😮😮 this case is real or it's a staged play😮😮😮
8 months time waisted accused suffering in prison I loss interest the fact there was no intruder
FL b3ngishilo ukuthi lanbameli bayadlala bazonidla imalie eningi
Keep delaying, keep pocketing😮😮😮 same as divorce
The all apply late but they did apply maybe they didn’t know the time limit
😂
@@nosiphomkhize9264😂😂😂😂😂 hhayi futhi...what's so difficult ngempela la? Time limit yani manje!?
Dom kop ke wena
EY.nalomqothuka.wekhehla.akayolala.bakithi.senele.ngaye.kwakhe.ahlale.nabazukulu.kuphelile.ngayebo😸🤪
This Judge acts like a prosecutor and is against the defense, it is clear that Ratha has been bought
No explanation for the 8 months waisted.!!!!!mhhhhhhhh
There is an explanation if defence think the balastic expert can exonerate their clients so be it if the legal aid board is captured then u use other resources if takes 2 years let it be
@butha55 bru, they only applied for funding on the 5th of April, but basho last year ukuthi bazobiza their own ballistics expert to refute the state witness' testimony. Bebehlaleleni bengayenzi sonke lesi sikhathi? Phezu kwalokho abasho ukuthi jow much this expert of theirs will cost? So u Legal Aid kumele ubhule ukuthi bafuna ifunding kamalini? Musani ukudlala ngo Legal Aid🤦♂️.
😂😂😂 i wonder what the word " phalaphala" means except for rampant corruption.😂😂😂😂😂
Iyo Ratha Biden and Ramaphosa 😢
Ratha n baloyi yini Lena engaka eyenziwa kin nguSenzo Meyiwa??????? 😢😢😢
But what took the defense this long to send the application ? Surely we all know those who did law that there is that option .
Uyabonake le abangeni oBaloyi no Ratha, it's all on the defense. Bebehlaleleni bengayenzi i application for funding bazi kahle ukuthi abasolwa abanayo imali yokukhokhela usolwazi ozothula ubufakazi ngesibhamu esasetshenziswa ukubulala uSenzo? August kuthulwa ubufakazi ngesibhamu, bona bacela uncedo lwezimali manje ngo April? Kahleni bo!
Why ni blamer defense ninezindlebe kodwa anizwa.Mnisi uyasho ukuthi kudala belindile imali inkinga impendulo abakayitholi,idefence ayi delay legal aid iyo enenkinga kanye nobaloi ngokuletha ofazi abangekho
Nawe engathi awunazo izindlebe illegal aid ayikatholi yonke imininingwane izobhatala kanjani ingazi nokuthi loyo muntu uzofuna malini
Banga manipulathi iresults kuba bekhokha
What about the 10 years that has lapsed icala lingathethwa, ekabani ke i delay lapho, stop this excitement eninayo, defence ayenzelutho nje, so akenphume kubo, babhekene nsma millionaires phela, give the a break😮
What a waste of time 11:08
But even the defence is delaying this trial its been 8 months not yet finalised to bring their expect i dont like judge but this time he was telling the truth
These lawyers are playful.