I think we all have access to acid phosphate. In my region I can only find 80% food grade phosphoric acid. Can you teach us how to work away with what we have?(phosphoric acid) like what other salt compound and how do we proceed?
How was acid phosphate made? I know it's basically buffered out phosphoric acid, but is there a way to make it at home with someone who knows how to balance buffered solutions? If so, what salts were used as the buffering agents and how much of it? I wonder if they used bone meal originally along with phosphoric acid to buffer out the acid since bone primarily is made out of calcium, phosphorus, magnesium, and several other trace elements. I remember seeing in some old manual a way to use some kind of strong acid with bone meal. I was curious on how to make an alternative, as it seems like there is only one manufacturer now that makes it, but with no details on how it's actually made.
Aqui no Btasil, eu tenho uma fórmula de bebida refrigerante de Guaraná da Amazônia de 1920 e em sua base ácida leva ácido fosórico, combinado com ácido cítrico e tártarico
You can use it anywhere lemon or lime juice is used. It is used in many cocktails and non-alcoholic drinks, and I even use it for cooking when I need something acidic, but don't want it to taste lime lemon or lime.
Yes, that is exactly what it is for, the only difference is that it is just a straight sour flavour (obviously, no lemon or lime aromas) but the salts in the Acid Phosphate do provide a touch of flavour enhancement.
No, phosphate of soda is just a salt, Acid Phosphate is a combination of phosphate salts with phosphoric acid that buffers the pH so it isn't excessively harsh and won't burn like pure phosphoric acid would.
Ice makes the drink less carbonated, making it flat. Plus the low alcohol nature means it doesn't need to be super-chilled, just cool, so chill your ingredients and the drink comes out great.
So, if you were to make a shaken drink with this, would you be tempted to shake everything but the acid and stir that in afterwards? Or would you put it right in? Have you ever A/B'd this?@@Artofdrink
If you have any questions about Acid Phosphate, let me know and I'll get you an answer.
I think we all have access to acid phosphate. In my region I can only find 80% food grade phosphoric acid. Can you teach us how to work away with what we have?(phosphoric acid) like what other salt compound and how do we proceed?
nice, unfortunately for US and Canada only. Product is not currently available to international customers. Bad luck for us here in Europe.
Most home brew stores sell 10% phosphoric acid. They also sell some of the salts used in acid phosphate.
Love that lemon bit!
we had a pharmacy in town that had the soda fountain until early 1970's.
Would love to recreate the lemon phosphate I enjoyed as a youngster. Thanks for your work!
How was acid phosphate made? I know it's basically buffered out phosphoric acid, but is there a way to make it at home with someone who knows how to balance buffered solutions? If so, what salts were used as the buffering agents and how much of it?
I wonder if they used bone meal originally along with phosphoric acid to buffer out the acid since bone primarily is made out of calcium, phosphorus, magnesium, and several other trace elements. I remember seeing in some old manual a way to use some kind of strong acid with bone meal.
I was curious on how to make an alternative, as it seems like there is only one manufacturer now that makes it, but with no details on how it's actually made.
Is this product still available? It looks as though it is discontinued.
Aqui no Btasil, eu tenho uma fórmula de bebida refrigerante de Guaraná da Amazônia de 1920 e em sua base ácida leva ácido fosórico, combinado com ácido cítrico e tártarico
Well, maybe heath claims were excessive but those particular electrolytes are not a bad thing to consume for sure.
Great videos! I’m learning so much. 🎉 plan on joining your Patreon.
And, do you have legs?
😂😂😂
The question of legs will be revealed in a future video! And thanks, glad you enjoy the content. Cheers
Very interesting
Where can you find phosphate?
Oh, BTW, is a cherry smash a phosphate?
Sorry but I can't see how to download the ebook? Going through all your videos now. From New Zealand
You can get a copy here: www.artofdrink.com/Fix-the-Pumps-2019.pdf
Can phosphate sodas/drinks be bottled or canned or must they be made and consumed immediately?
They can be bottled/canned and the benefit is that phosphate is stable and last a long time.
What is soda water? Seltzer water or club soda?
I will be making a video about this shortly.
what about uses for acid phosphate in other types of cocktails? is it used anywhere else? or is it mainly a soda fountain ingredient?
You can use it anywhere lemon or lime juice is used. It is used in many cocktails and non-alcoholic drinks, and I even use it for cooking when I need something acidic, but don't want it to taste lime lemon or lime.
@@Artofdrink oh duh. you did explain that -- i just didn't carry it through to the world of cocktails. *slaps forehead*
is acid phosphate pure phosphoric acid or is it bufferized with some phosphoric salts?
Buffered with salts
Could I use Acid phosphate to replace lime and Lemon , Will the acid phosphate increase the the other cocktail flavours ?
Yes, that is exactly what it is for, the only difference is that it is just a straight sour flavour (obviously, no lemon or lime aromas) but the salts in the Acid Phosphate do provide a touch of flavour enhancement.
Are you shipping to the UK?
In a few weeks (mid February) the updated online shop will be able to get shipping rates for UK/EU.
@@Artofdrink thanks can't wait.
Can acid phosphate be made at home?
It probably shouldn't.
Nobody ships acid phosphates to Germany. Is there a way to buy it in Germany or can I make it myself from 85% phosphoric acid?
I am updating my online store and it will having shipping to Germany, in a couple of weeks.
@@Artofdrink Thanks a lot !
@@Artofdrink Can we buy in Europe ?
@@olivierhuens5569 not at the moment, the demand is pretty low in the EU (a few bottles a year) so haven't been able to get a distributor.
Is this the same as phosphate of soda 🤔
No, phosphate of soda is just a salt, Acid Phosphate is a combination of phosphate salts with phosphoric acid that buffers the pH so it isn't excessively harsh and won't burn like pure phosphoric acid would.
@@Artofdrink thanks for the knowledge 🙏
Why no ice.
Ice makes the drink less carbonated, making it flat. Plus the low alcohol nature means it doesn't need to be super-chilled, just cool, so chill your ingredients and the drink comes out great.
So, if you were to make a shaken drink with this, would you be tempted to shake everything but the acid and stir that in afterwards? Or would you put it right in? Have you ever A/B'd this?@@Artofdrink