For those that think corporal punishment works, Nope! Most of the kids I grew up with (1970's, 80's) were raised in homes where life was lived at the end of verbal abuse, a slap, fist or worse. Eg. My mother broke my sisters fingers with a steel fish spatula and then hit her again for crying for asking 'stupid' questions. I had my head bounced of a radiator for not tying my shoe laces quick enough. She would lie to my dad and he took her word. A cane, slipper? Amateurs! The only thing it taught us was how to turn our backs, lie better and see any authority as the enemy. "It did us no harm", Maybe, but I can say it did no good either. Corporal punishment at school was just another form of violence wrapped up in a cheap, easy, quick and unimaginative means to gain compliance. Violence only ever benefits the perpetrator. What worked for me, was gaining a sense of worth and PURPOSE (really important). nurturing love gave me value, positive role-models showed me how, invested space for ideas, imagination and challenge built my confidence, time gave me room to grow, providing responsibility along with positive accountability moved me forward and owning the outcomes brought the discipline and drive to keep the momentum. If you think im all "namby pampby" think again, the ride should be hard, but meaningful and rewarding.
This. I'm still suffering from trauma at almost 60. I witnessed sadists beat girls and boys in front of classes. The sadistic sexual element is forever haunting. I wouldn't beat my pets in the way kids were treated then.
@@adeofbass Hello there, THankyou for your honest comment. The pain we feel from this kind of trauma is life long, it is a wound to our soul and we never realy get past the cruelty, and people think that treating children this way is 'good' for them. But hurt kids grow in to hurt adults. I hope its ok to say, but I hope that peace finds you. Take Care my friend. CC
My grandfather used to get caned He and his mates would deliberately piss off the teachers to see who could take the most amount of pain as a game of one up man ship
Reminds me of a kid I saw while I was studying to be a nurse. He and his brother and some other idiot would compete to see how far down they could get the brothers' mother's thin knitting needle down their you-know-whats. One of them had to be surgically repaired and had to have a temporary cystostomy, an opening in the bladder wall in his abdomen with a tube draining urine into a bag attached to his leg.
It may not look like much but it seriously does hurt, a *lot*. I was caned several times on my hand and school and you need to remember that the hand is a very sensitive part of the body. And with a thin cane like that that's a lot of force on a relatively small area of skin. And bare skin too, no protection from clothing. So believe you me, it certainly hurts!
@@reddwarfer999I got 6 strikes across my arse when I was 14 and it drew blood. The bruising lasted for weeks. The headmaster who served me my punishment raised the cane right up above his head with each strike.
one of the best kids drama ever and nothing could ever replace this. Epic and loved it made me laugh at times. The cane was being stopped when I first hit junior school around about 1977. Teachers were bullies when I went to school. Teachers got away with murder
Wrong. A tiny few rogue teachers were bullies. 99 % of them were very decent people who cared about the kids EDUCATION....not about being their best mate. The cane, the pain and humiliation of it stopped the idiots , the troublemakers, and the bullies in their tracks. Nowadays they tell the powerless teachers to fuck off and laugh in their faces. If this is " progress " take me back to the Victorian era.
My eldest sister had board rubbers thrown at her and she was once given a ruler on the hand in around 1983. I was a baby at the time and to me it sounded old fashioned but the birch was used into the 80's I believe.
@@Antpeople1the whole point of the board duster was it left a white mark on your blue jumper so everyone knew you’d be in trouble. I got it almost daily but I’d prank and stamp the duster on pupils so others thought they had been in trouble. The mark didn’t come out until washed so mum always knew too 😂😂😂 best days ever. I got 6 of the best and then you couldn’t write and teachers had names for their canes. Wood works was called Arthur and it was long and flat and hurt like hell. Metal works was a lethal one too as you can imagine. Headmaster had a special traditional one but quite thick and somehow it was the worst
@@Brasslantern007 😲Sounds horrific!!! Everything has gone so backwards now, it is is so evil. Children killing their teachers in front of the class now. I cannot believe this happened not that long ago, all these forms of torture in schools. It seems like a stupid thing that the Teachers threw the board rubbers KNOWING it would make a stain in the uniform. Some of the these Teachers I have heard they were child molesters and pedophiles. Truly dangerous and evil criminals. The metal one sounds SO painful and dangerous! the injuries?! At least you have happy memories though!
@MrPolicekarim Granted, the teaching profession has largely been loaded with leftie progressives since the late sixties/early seventies, so its use had become much less fashionable.
There was a time when parents used to side with the teachers when little Johnny misbehaved. Now, all a teacher has to do is say something which makes little Johnny slightly uncomfortable and the parents will go all out to destroy the teacher's career.
Exactly... they should bring back limited corporal punishment at schools and schools should be more firmer and regimented with kids. It's all about being "nice" in the last 20 years... not doing what's right and doing the right thing.
Very true. It was much better when I was at school in the 1970s and early 1980s when this scene was set. Schools then were places where we learned, and we had respect for our teachers and parents, and had discipline when needed.
they stopped caning people for a reason. it was abused, badly and the teachers tended to be quite biased about it sometimes. you could get 5 kids called in to the office for the same offense and 3 of them would be let off with a warning, whilst the other 2 would be caned and it would usually be the same 2 kids over and over and over again
Had a teacher whack me into a pulpit in church once. I wasn't a naughty kid and said teacher took out his anger at two other kids on me. Was so frightened I ran away...hid for the day, went home...dad kept me off school for a week and went fg apeshit at the headmaster. Headmaster brought teacher in and he was fg awful to my dad....kinda proved the point really. Dad says....right, touch my girl again and you will fg know about it. Departs school with me in tow....dad was my hero. Funny thing....said teacher lost his job for punching a 7 year old kid not long after....😮
We had a teacher in middle school who was adamant that the cane be brought back. At the time we thought she was nuts but looking back on it, from how certain kids behaved in my school, I can see where she was coming from although I do not endorse corporal punishment in any shape or form.
I have to be honest, in a profession dominated by leftie progressivist beatniks since the seventies, I rather admire her for actually having the courage to speak her mind.
@@theradgegadgie6352 Me too. Especially with some of the insufferable and antisocial vermin who were at that school. The cane is still fully legal in countries like India by the way.
@@nicolenicole1873 How's that possible??? I still remember the sting of my mom's cane! She used to give 3 strokes on each palm... it would hurt like hell!!!
When I started at my senior school, I already knew they had the tawse. All I knew about the tawse was it was a type of leather strap. During my first week there, in the biology class, I noticed hanging from the wall, a thick leather strap, with a heavy handle at one end and a brass buckle on the other. "Is that the tawse?" I thought. "No way can they be hitting kids with that!" It looked more like something used to discipline the ratings in Nelson's or Drake's day, not for schoolkids. Hey, you could even use it for twatting the French with in battle. I later learned that it was a strop, used for sharpening blades with.
I was a few years younger than this episode was portrayed but at my school in Aberdeen me and my mates used to get the belt across our hands,but it was called the Scud inScotland and we used to have a league every year to see who got it most,but can’t remember any of us getting nowt if Ye won
My head used his walking stick ' my class teacher was a woman who had a nasty temper ' even a bit over the top ' slaps ' rulers across the knuckles for trivial stuff.
The cane was still around but going out when I was at school but I'm going back to primary school so a bit different to secondary. But I got the belt from my old man a few times in the 80s. Taught me a valuable lesson.. respect
At school, we still had the paddle, not a cane, and it was given on the seat of trousers for boys, not on hands. Only once for me at school in my HS freshman year. Aware too that many boys got the belt from their dad at home and often trousers were lowered. It did teach respect.
@@davefilms345 you used the word "taught" and I'm afraid respect can only be "taught" using respect. Perhaps "ordered" or "forced" would've been a better word. And respect in its true form can't be forced either. Btw what's being TAUGHT here is violence. In many rural areas in my country this misconception is still being passed on from one generation to another, with hardly any hope of change.
In primary school we got the slipper. You hoped it was the headmaster who gave it to you because his heart wasn't in it.God help you if the dept head gave it to you his swing could put you through the wall!
geesh...my now ex-boss did this all the time - year was 2017...some people complained and even tried to get the police involved, needlessly they (co-workers) where not seen again (fired not sent to sleep with the fishes)
Although ironically, if someone threw a bit of wood at your head, you'd either have them charged with assault, or you'd punch their lights out. Why was it not assault to hit someone who is weaker than you?
I’m a 2000s kid (Nov 2002) to be exact and tbh they should bring this back to an extent. Clearly this works better than a detention or exclusion for a week. I definitely don’t agree with beating kids black and blue in the same fashion that you hear about in these parent on child abuse cases but a few strokes on the hand seems to be effective still. also I heard Mrs McCluskey passed away last week. RIP to her. I hardly know anything about Grange Hill. My mum and dad watched it but I’ve grown up with Waterloo Road and Ackley Bridge.
I'm a 70's kid & was around when Borstals & Kids home were all over the UK. I've been in Refuges, Orphanages, Kids homes. In all these places & Schools the staff assaulted you, it was the culture then, even the Police assaulted you if you played truant. I remember getting the ruler so many times in Primary School & they didn't need much of a reason. If you have to resort to assaulting Kids then you've failed already. It's a different era now.
@@speedy692 ok I can't disagree with that. The reason I made that comment is just because some kids these days seem to just get away with anything. Discipline seems to have gone out the window but of course that is down to the parents. I should mention that I intended for that kind of punishment to be a very very last resort, if grounding or confiscating devices do not work. But then again, I suppose it is a bit hypocritical - I'd never imagine assaulting my own children.
@@speedy692 Also, what I want to know is why was it the culture then? Without wishing to sound dramatic but was there just a level of tolerance regarding children back then? Or maybe they didn't get the love they do now? I'd like to think most parents did love their children just as much as parents do now even if they didn't show it.
@@evanslater4551 Back then we didn't have anything to confiscate. We went out & played all evening. I suppose if kids didn't conform back then they were seen as a problem, but Teachers & Care home staff assaulting you was far worse than anything kids done back then. You weren't allowed to answer adults back or question them or you'd be punished. Some people may be thinking a kid must've been a right handful if they put him in a home or fostered them out, but believe me some Parents just didn't want you & Social Workers have a lot to answer for back then. Things evolve, before Care homes there were Borstals & if you go back even more Kids would be put in the Workhouse. I know things have gone the other way now & you'd know more about that than me, but it all starts at Home.
I want to know how Mr. Keating knew to bring the cane. Or perhaps he always brings it in the hope he might be allowed to use it on someone. He was disappointed today though!
I thought she was being tickled .When I had it in 1973 .He transferred his weight from the back foot to the front and bought all his weight behind it . I had 2 sleep on my stomach and put a load a cushions under my bum The 3 strips lasted 3 weeks .
If a cane or paddle is used to punish, I think it best across the bottom rather than the hands. Sounds like you got 3 painful stripes on your bum at school.
I went to school in the 1960s, corporal punishment was normal back then, the punishment was carried out by the school secretary with the cane, usually there were between 8 and 16 strokes with the cane on the bare bottom
Oh if only that was brought back into schools. Good old discipline. When I was at junior school, not only the cane was used, a slipper, ruler, blackboard eraser and in the music class, a drum stick.
And the reason it was banned was that more often than not, an innocent pupil would be caned and some teachers abused the punishment and would go too far.
What I chiefly remember from this and subsequent series of GH is that while the head and staff came down like a ton of bricks on pupils who did things like smoking or skipping school to go to a gig, they seemed powerless to prevent Benson and his cronies from vandalising the classrooms, or to protect children from a teacher who practiced violent abuse, or to stop Gripper Stebson in his campaigns of bullying and racism. (Except for Baxter of course, who seemed the only one who did anything positive in that direction.)
i was glued to Grange Hill growing up realising that it's the only school in Britain where the pupils didn't swear yet Mary Whitehouse got it banned for a while. Damn she even tried to get Tom and Jerry banned.
@@briangatt2956 she always talked about protecting children and that what she did was due to being Christian. Could never understand her silence about the activities of countless catholic priests.
Whereas nowadays children get a way with murdering teachers..literally. Like the Pupil who murdered their teacher in front of the class. You go to prison for disciplining them now...Teachers used to beat the pupils badly and it is all backwards...this is all by design of course!
wingobingo Spelleded? A whank is a combination of a whack and a wank - you get whacked with a cane as you wank - best not progress any further down that route - leave the rest to your imagination!
@@waynespencer3036 I'm 52 from Scotland i don't recall any teachers having a cane just 2 prong belts. Loved that sting especially when it wrapped around your fingers.
At my school they fenced off an area in the playground and sent you in like gladiators to face local hoodlums, armed only with a bucket and a short rounders bat. We realise now it made us good citizens.
@@SesameR7sh lol. I’ve just re-read my post from a year ago and I have NO recollection of typing that, nor do I know hope I came up with it!!! It sounds like pure fiction - I was probably ‘sleep-typing’. If it made you laugh then that’s good I guess.
How dare someone think they have the right to injure and degrade someone's body! When I was in school we were punished by being made to sit in the kindergarten. Also, we were threatened with being expelled, and told that your parents would have to pay for you to go to private school or you would end up washing dishes for a living.
This was the 1970's when this was made; school corporal punishment was legal back then, though by that decade it was toned down across state schools across the UK, or banned completely in some schools. It wasn't until 1986 when corporal punishment in state schools across the UK was finally outlawed, however private schools (unless they were partially funded by the government) were legally allowed to still use it until 1998 in England and Wales, 2000 in Scotland and 2003 in Northern Ireland.
Its called instant justice ' i agree you shoudn 't take it too far ' but moderate chastisement never hurt anybody ' even a copper used to clout you if you gave him lip ' sad times we live in now.
Wow shocked me seeing thus on GH. I remember watching it from mid 80's to mid. 90's. I looked at comments that said the show had to factor to much politics, which lost it's realism. You can say black board it's called information board. I say bring it back for the kids today. It helped me through a few growing up things, seeing clips of the old days brought back memories of my own childhood and what I was facing when these episodes were on the air, thanks BBC for GH I'm writing a play and book which if it wasn't for GH I'd never consider it.
+lee Lewis Okay but will your play and book feature pretty girls being caned? That's the most important thing lol. But on a more serious note, it's interesting that you were shocked by it. I'm guessing you're a fair bit younger than me. The idea of corporal punishment in schools may seem very controversial now but a few decades ago it was standard practice. I left school in 1982 so I was among the last generation of kids to experience it (it was banned in state schools in 1987). In the school I went to only the headmaster was allowed to use the cane, but classroom teachers frequently used the plimsoll or dap (we called it the slipper), often for quite minor "offences" such as forgetting to do homework or being too noisy in class. It was usually just one whack on the bottom but if you did something really bad you could get as many as six. The amount of pain it caused varied. Sometimes it was just a mild sting but other times you'd be jumping around! We didn't like it but we accepted it as part of school life.
johnny b The law as it stood at the time was that only the head or deputy head could inflict corporal punishment on a pupil in a state school - no other teacher had the authority to do so - could only issue lines or detention or whatever - no teacher was permitted by law to put their hands on a pupil, other than to pull two or more would-be pugilists apart - any actual slippering could be done by either the head or deputy head on the bum - only the head could inflict the cane on a pupil on either the bum or, invariably, the hands - a bit annoying just before a music lesson or something requiring the hands - and the most they could issue was six whacks per day (hence the expression "six of the best") - so, if you were really naughty - and we're not talking about not eating your greens, here - and earned 30 whacks, you had to report to the headmaster every day and get six, then come in next day for another six and so on - in fairness to the recipient, each stroke counted, hit or miss - any state school that allowed the English teacher to impose physical punishment on you because you misspelt a word or the maths teacher to hit you because you said that 2+2=5 or the geography teacher to clobber you because you said that Prague was the capital of Poland or the history teacher to beat the crap out of you because you thought Julius Caesar was the emperor of Carthage or whatever was, even back then, breaking the law! Private (so-called public) schools had their own separate set of rules - giving senior pupils the authority to treat the younger pupils as errand-runners ("fags" they were called - the errand-runners, that is - the senior pupils were called prefects) - as for convent schools - the late comedian Dave Allen built a comedy routine around them - some of them were not above forcing pupils to eat everything on their plate, whether they liked it or not - one item I read in a women's magazine - I find the content of women's magazines more interesting than those aimed at men - all fishing and football and motorsport - related the story of a convent school near Sunderland called Nazareth House - dubbed "Nazi House" by its pupils - a combination of a shortened form of Nazareth and the fact that the nuns acted like they were Nazis - one girl was being force-fed food she didn't like and was throwing most of it back up - the nun said "You will EAT it!" - and started feeding her the sick! My two boarding schools - the first one was anti-corporal punishment - instead getting pupils to do the work of cleaners, only without the pay - the second one did practice corporal punishment - but the deputy headmaster could only issue the "slipper" - a plimsoll - on the bum - never had the cane in my life - but, by all accounts, only the actual headmaster could issue the cane on either the bum or the hands! Both my schools did adopt a zero tolerance policy, however, on food being left on the plate or whatever - you had to eat all of everything - that only, it seemed, applied to the main course - they were quite happy to force feed you sprouts or cabbage or cauliflower or all that stuff you don't like, say that, if you eat all your main course, you will get your pudding - sometimes it was pudding - although how half a grapefruit with a glaçé cherry on it constitutes pudding - or counts as cereal in my last boarding school, I don't know - whilst they force fed you fruit as if it was pudding, on the occasions when they SERVED a proper pudding, having been promised - PROMISED - that, having ate all your greens, you would get your pudding, you barely managed to eat a mouthful, only to be told, "Spoons down, please - meal is over!". Funny how nice puddings were returned, but not greens! My first boarding school occasionally served the kind of stuff you get in Holland & Barrett - eventually it became the exclusive menu - always brown bread or sugar, never white throughout my entire time there! If it wasn't yellow, brown, green, purple or beige, it wasn't on the menu!
@@arthurvasey What I know about school corporal punishment (well at most since May 1972 after the pupils went on strike to protest about it) is that it got toned down by the 1970's across all State Schools in the UK because it would only be used as a last resort for misbehaving pupils, as seen in this example, however a number of them banned it completely because their local council felt that it was wrong, most notably London's Primary Schools; they had already began phasing out corporal punishment in the late 1960's.
In my infant school Mr Lee welcomed us to top infants with the news that he could slipper the girls on their hands and boys on their bottoms. One day I was sitting in the tiny 'library'.…just a couple of shelves ..and I saw two boys in the corridor looking terrified. Mr Lee came striding down. Without stopping he seized one boy, lifted him by the collar and gave him a huge whack. Then boy 2. I will never forget when he hoisted him, the boy began running in the air to escape. It was a really hard blow. There was no more in sorrow than in anger stuff
The cane may work but I don't like the idea of it being done I am basically a pacifist. I think there are far more effective methods of punishment such detentions groundings and tempoary withdrawal of sweet money. Grange hill along with casualty and prisoner cell block h are my 3 favourite dramas. From Michael from Yorkshire and proud of it.
Indeed there are far worse and more sophisticated psychological punishments that are dished out to kids by passive aggressive liberal parents. I’d rather get the cane and be done with it tbh.
I got the cane and the slipper as well as getting half strangled by the Headmaster for smirking in assembly, and thumped around the head so hard by a teacher that I fell off my chair! And I was one of the better behaved ones. All in a school day's work back in the 70's.
I got the cane only once at secondary school and I was more worried about the fact the school told my parents, so I'd get punished again once I got home. With detention you could just tell the folks you had football training or something.
That's extreme we only got the belt and it was so wide it just felt like the head was giving me five after a bunch of us got in trouble for having a fish'n chip fight at lunchtime.
I remember when I was eleven and I'd just started high school, I was just stood in the dinner queue with my friend and this big kid (he was a first year just like me but a lot bigger and taller) just came up to me and punched me in the face. It turned out that he was bragging that he was the hardest kid in his old school and his friends were like.. "Prove it, go and punch someone" He hit me so hard I fell down and I had a huge black eye that lasted for over a week. The headmaster got us both in his office and asked if I was okay. Then he told me to watch. He groped on top of this huge cabinet that looked more like a wardrobe and retrieved a bamboo cane that looked about six feet long. Then he said "Hold out your hand boy" and the kid put his hand out.. "This is what happens when you hit girls.." He brought his arm right back in a well practised move and brought the cane down hard on the kids hand.. To this day I remember the sound of the cane whistling through the air and the loud crack it made as it hit the boy. He screamed out loud.. and then burst into snotty tears. I'd cried when he punched me but he yelped and cried at least twice as much. The head cooly informed him that the next time he laid a hand on a girl (curiously enough he didn't mention hitting boys) that he would get two strikes, and if there was another time it would double again to four and so on.. I don't recall that kid putting a single foot out of line for the rest of his years at high school..
Speaking as a Teacher (music) I once worked on an International school and the amount of language and bad attitudes the kids though they could get away with , was unbelievable. That level of disrespect and behavior was definitely not tolerated in my day. Sadly though, I was never allowed to discipline the kids and had a flood of emails from parents whenever I did have to raise my voice and exercise my authority.
Raise your voice? Lol. That was standard in my day,which was from: September 1988 until June:2000. It was hilarious to see the scumbags getting shouted at(Like bad recruits on a parade-square:-) & it worked too. It was nicknamed a verbal-cane,by one old-fashioned teacher. This included at my:infants,prep-school,primary & secondary schools. Caning was banned in 1986(In state-schools:-) but continued in private schools up until 1998:when the EU banned it. The PE teachers at my private-school,used to slipper naughty children with plimsoles. I think kids of today,don’t know the boundaries & they don’t care,either. Ive seen children,younger than 10:verbally abusing police officers too & in my day that would have resulted in a:twisted-ear. My music teacher was called:Nikki Windgrove & not someone you wanted to cross either,as she was like the sergeant-major with a very,loud voice & a habit of throwing those xylophone-sticks at pupils for:disruption & no homework. They just about missed the head & arms.😂
I think I still bare the scars, though I'm not sure cos I can't see my own backside, a number of our heads of year and indeed the head were brutal when it came to giving you a canning.
Do not overlook the fact that kids who are allowed to do just as they like at home , at school, with total impunity then go out into the world and become the lawbreakers.
And by the same token, kids who were routinely beaten at home, go on to be abusers themselves in adulthood. Why does everything have to be expressed in extremes?? You'll probably find that kids who are given a free reign at home, go on to be the entitled narcissists in adulthood, but not necessarily the law breakers.
Live in America I never got the cane but I got the paddle on a few occasions but the thing about it is I was bullied -picked on and people lied about what I did not do which got me sent to the office or out in the hallway to receive the paddle
I never got caned at school my father allowed no one but him to punish me or my brother's. Sometime the punishment he would deal out when called by the school would he severe you'd wish you got the cane at school.
She told a teacher that her grandmother was ill/dead (can't remember which) so she could leave school early. Bridget was going to expel her, which seemed excessive to me, but Cathy's mother suggested caning instead.
I don't know what the girl did, but wouldn't it make more sense to have the kid fix what they broke, replace what they can't fix, and clean up the mess?
because after the third stroke you tensed your arm you could not help it, and each stroke after that it made your bicep go into spasm, and it hurts like merry hell, the hand is sore and tender after but your whole arm is in pain, it wears off in a couple of hours, and it was always on the hand that you do not write with.
To say I'm here for the comments barely hints at the truth. I shook with laughter... Let's summarise, this comments were one if the following: 1) "yes that's the way to do it! I was spanked for picking my nose in 1933 and it never did me any harm" 2) (unnecessarily detailed description of a previous spanking) 3) "if the socialists had been given this they might have behaved themselves" 4) "Cathy was a looker" 5) "I'd cane one of them myself" Etcetc
@@alanmackenzie2811 well the sewers came with the Victorians. That, and the Broad Street pump/Cholera history is an extraordinary story. I'm not here to say corporal punishment is all wrong, either - though I've never much liked it. I'm in the middle of discovering just how difficult kids can be, and I remember a few years ago a certain Laurie Penny describing child-smacking as "abuse" - and not seeing why her apparent complete lack of experience of parenting might make her opinion a bit suspect
I remember a male teacher who would punch older lads espc if he caught them bullying anyone smaller ' good deterrent if you want my opinion ' pretty cool teacher he was with a great sense of humor ' just never get on the wrong side of him ' like jeckl and hyde character.
I remember Cathy being caned my mate what was watching this with me said stand up there's nothing to be scared of, I cant remember what Cathy were caned for, Anyone know it was bad behaviour obviously like what though?
+ceri nolancerinolan I remember seeing it too (I was about 13 at the time). She was caned because she'd been playing truant in order to sing with a local band.
What do you mean can't? Of course they can, they work for us. Our taxes pay them. We tell them what to do. The problem is they been telling us for so long while we sit back and let them. If you want it back put it back. Simple. Grow some balls. The only power a school department has is what we allow. Take back the schools and save the kids.
I don't see why it has to be about extremes; beating the child or pandering to them. There has to be a middle ground, far more effective than physical punishment.
At another school I attended canings were carried out on the school yard by professional caners , bottoms were caned at 100mph, often the poor kid getting caned got 25-99 lashes and rest of school had to watch. Buttocks ofter got turned to mulsh and bits of bottoms would sometimes fly into the assembled spectators, sometimes the poor kid would poo and bits of poo would fly into those spectators. Very harsh back then, very harsh
For those that think corporal punishment works, Nope! Most of the kids I grew up with (1970's, 80's) were raised in homes where life was lived at the end of verbal abuse, a slap, fist or worse. Eg. My mother broke my sisters fingers with a steel fish spatula and then hit her again for crying for asking 'stupid' questions. I had my head bounced of a radiator for not tying my shoe laces quick enough. She would lie to my dad and he took her word.
A cane, slipper? Amateurs!
The only thing it taught us was how to turn our backs, lie better and see any authority as the enemy. "It did us no harm", Maybe, but I can say it did no good either. Corporal punishment at school was just another form of violence wrapped up in a cheap, easy, quick and unimaginative means to gain compliance. Violence only ever benefits the perpetrator.
What worked for me, was gaining a sense of worth and PURPOSE (really important). nurturing love gave me value, positive role-models showed me how, invested space for ideas, imagination and challenge built my confidence, time gave me room to grow, providing responsibility along with positive accountability moved me forward and owning the outcomes brought the discipline and drive to keep the momentum.
If you think im all "namby pampby" think again, the ride should be hard, but meaningful and rewarding.
Good comment.
This. I'm still suffering from trauma at almost 60. I witnessed sadists beat girls and boys in front of classes. The sadistic sexual element is forever haunting. I wouldn't beat my pets in the way kids were treated then.
@@adeofbass Hello there, THankyou for your honest comment. The pain we feel from this kind of trauma is life long, it is a wound to our soul and we never realy get past the cruelty, and people think that treating children this way is 'good' for them. But hurt kids grow in to hurt adults. I hope its ok to say, but I hope that peace finds you. Take Care my friend. CC
My grandfather used to get caned
He and his mates would deliberately piss off the teachers to see who could take the most amount of pain as a game of one up man ship
or BDSM as some would call it.
Reminds me of a kid I saw while I was studying to be a nurse. He and his brother and some other idiot would compete to see how far down they could get the brothers' mother's thin knitting needle down their you-know-whats. One of them had to be surgically repaired and had to have a temporary cystostomy, an opening in the bladder wall in his abdomen with a tube draining urine into a bag attached to his leg.
We did that too sadly the belt was banned in Scotland 1987 a year after i left.🤣
That’s not a canning, that’s a love tap.🤣
Literally, barely hit
Yea, my year head was a c..t when it came to delivering the cane, I think he enjoyed it. Bastard he's dead now
@@AR-ei3fs Gwnneth Powell didn't want to do it.
It may not look like much but it seriously does hurt, a *lot*. I was caned several times on my hand and school and you need to remember that the hand is a very sensitive part of the body. And with a thin cane like that that's a lot of force on a relatively small area of skin. And bare skin too, no protection from clothing. So believe you me, it certainly hurts!
@@reddwarfer999I got 6 strikes across my arse when I was 14 and it drew blood. The bruising lasted for weeks. The headmaster who served me my punishment raised the cane right up above his head with each strike.
Mrs McCluskey showed great strength and respect to all around her. Exactly what a head should be.
It’s not real... just acting.
@@davidmccormick4319 she was a trained teacher
@@dpinto6278Lol
one of the best kids drama ever and nothing could ever replace this. Epic and loved it made me laugh at times. The cane was being stopped when I first hit junior school around about 1977. Teachers were bullies when I went to school. Teachers got away with murder
Wrong.
A tiny few rogue teachers were bullies.
99 % of them were very decent people who cared about the kids EDUCATION....not about being their best mate.
The cane, the pain and humiliation of it stopped the idiots , the troublemakers, and the bullies in their tracks.
Nowadays they tell the powerless teachers to fuck off and laugh in their faces.
If this is " progress " take me back to the Victorian era.
We got smacked throughout the 80's up to the mid 90's. Bully is the right word.
My eldest sister had board rubbers thrown at her and she was once given a ruler on the hand in around 1983. I was a baby at the time and to me it sounded old fashioned but the birch was used into the 80's I believe.
@@Antpeople1the whole point of the board duster was it left a white mark on your blue jumper so everyone knew you’d be in trouble. I got it almost daily but I’d prank and stamp the duster on pupils so others thought they had been in trouble. The mark didn’t come out until washed so mum always knew too 😂😂😂 best days ever. I got 6 of the best and then you couldn’t write and teachers had names for their canes. Wood works was called Arthur and it was long and flat and hurt like hell. Metal works was a lethal one too as you can imagine. Headmaster had a special traditional one but quite thick and somehow it was the worst
@@Brasslantern007 😲Sounds horrific!!! Everything has gone so backwards now, it is is so evil. Children killing their teachers in front of the class now. I cannot believe this happened not that long ago, all these forms of torture in schools.
It seems like a stupid thing that the Teachers threw the board rubbers KNOWING it would make a stain in the uniform. Some of the these Teachers I have heard they were child molesters and pedophiles. Truly dangerous and evil criminals.
The metal one sounds SO painful and dangerous! the injuries?!
At least you have happy memories though!
Yes,, they still did the canning in the 1980's at my school. up until the 1990's!!!! 🏑
1986, to be specific. Unless you're referring to independent schools, in which case it was 1998.
GOOD !!
@@theradgegadgie6352 They had it until 1998! Bloody Hell!
@@MrPolicekarim Indeed.
@MrPolicekarim Granted, the teaching profession has largely been loaded with leftie progressives since the late sixties/early seventies, so its use had become much less fashionable.
There was a time when parents used to side with the teachers when little Johnny misbehaved. Now, all a teacher has to do is say something which makes little Johnny slightly uncomfortable and the parents will go all out to destroy the teacher's career.
Totally agree.
Exactly... they should bring back limited corporal punishment at schools and schools should be more firmer and regimented with kids. It's all about being "nice" in the last 20 years... not doing what's right and doing the right thing.
Very true. It was much better when I was at school in the 1970s and early 1980s when this scene was set. Schools then were places where we learned, and we had respect for our teachers and parents, and had discipline when needed.
And then we wonder why each generation just gets worse and worse and worse.
they stopped caning people for a reason. it was abused, badly and the teachers tended to be quite biased about it sometimes. you could get 5 kids called in to the office for the same offense and 3 of them would be let off with a warning, whilst the other 2 would be caned and it would usually be the same 2 kids over and over and over again
Had a teacher whack me into a pulpit in church once. I wasn't a naughty kid and said teacher took out his anger at two other kids on me. Was so frightened I ran away...hid for the day, went home...dad kept me off school for a week and went fg apeshit at the headmaster. Headmaster brought teacher in and he was fg awful to my dad....kinda proved the point really. Dad says....right, touch my girl again and you will fg know about it. Departs school with me in tow....dad was my hero. Funny thing....said teacher lost his job for punching a 7 year old kid not long after....😮
I kinda agree
I wouldn;t let anyone hit my kids
If its anyone that would discipline my kids, its me
There is also a level of hitting
There was still bare bottom caning at a boarding school I was at in the 1970s.
We had a teacher in middle school who was adamant that the cane be brought back. At the time we thought she was nuts but looking back on it, from how certain kids behaved in my school, I can see where she was coming from although I do not endorse corporal punishment in any shape or form.
I have to be honest, in a profession dominated by leftie progressivist beatniks since the seventies, I rather admire her for actually having the courage to speak her mind.
@@theradgegadgie6352 Me too. Especially with some of the insufferable and antisocial vermin who were at that school. The cane is still fully legal in countries like India by the way.
@@vinaymulukutla358 I feel your pain.
OMG,my mom used to cane me in this same fashion,but 3 strokes at least!
Same but I had 60
@@nicolenicole1873 60 strokes on the palm!!! Are u kidding???
I got 10 with a ruler when I was growing up.
@@prasadprasad4872 no I'm not joking
@@nicolenicole1873 How's that possible??? I still remember the sting of my mom's cane! She used to give 3 strokes on each palm... it would hurt like hell!!!
When I started at my senior school, I already knew they had the tawse. All I knew about the tawse was it was a type of leather strap. During my first week there, in the biology class, I noticed hanging from the wall, a thick leather strap, with a heavy handle at one end and a brass buckle on the other. "Is that the tawse?" I thought.
"No way can they be hitting kids with that!"
It looked more like something used to discipline the ratings in Nelson's or Drake's day, not for schoolkids. Hey, you could even use it for twatting the French with in battle.
I later learned that it was a strop, used for sharpening blades with.
The tawse was mainly used in Scotland, but some schools in parts of Northern England also used it.
I was a few years younger than this episode was portrayed but at my school in Aberdeen me and my mates used to get the belt across our hands,but it was called the Scud inScotland and we used to have a league every year to see who got it most,but can’t remember any of us getting nowt if Ye won
A slap on the back?
It was banned on the 22nd July 1986.
Mrs Mcklusky. The best headteacher of Grange Hill. Strict but fair.
And pretty too.
I would have liked to have had such a beautiful and strict teacher
not always fair
Stern.....stern but fair
@@beardtrick she wasn't always fair.....as this video shows.
That brings back memories ! Proper punishment dished out, thats how you got kids to behave back in the 70s and early 80s.
I agree use the strap in the board on boys and girls butts in school and then get it get it at home
shame some teachers were biased with it i.e. targeting student s they just personally didn't like it
My head used his walking stick ' my class teacher was a woman who had a nasty temper ' even a bit over the top ' slaps ' rulers across the knuckles for trivial stuff.
So you're saying you think it's ok for adults to assault kids? Do you also think it's OK to assault your wife? Other adults? Pretty weird pal.
I remember a male teacher when I was at boarding school in the late 70s ' ' who used to punch the older kids ' espc if they were bullies.
The cane was still around but going out when I was at school but I'm going back to primary school so a bit different to secondary. But I got the belt from my old man a few times in the 80s. Taught me a valuable lesson.. respect
At school, we still had the paddle, not a cane, and it was given on the seat of trousers for boys, not on hands. Only once for me at school in my HS freshman year. Aware too that many boys got the belt from their dad at home and often trousers were lowered. It did teach respect.
No it didn't. Fear does not equal respect
You call that respect!
@@parasjaiswal4212 teaches you you not to do it again
@@davefilms345 you used the word "taught" and I'm afraid respect can only be "taught" using respect. Perhaps "ordered" or "forced" would've been a better word. And respect in its true form can't be forced either. Btw what's being TAUGHT here is violence.
In many rural areas in my country this misconception is still being passed on from one generation to another, with hardly any hope of change.
Super!
How did Mr Keating know to bring a cane to Mrs McClusky's office? she only asked the secretary to get Mr Keating to come to her office.
Haha, I wondered the exact same thing 😂
@@eclecticjon1019 It's like it was written by Coronation Street writers.
In primary school we got the slipper. You hoped it was the headmaster who gave it to you because his heart wasn't in it.God help you if the dept head gave it to you his swing could put you through the wall!
wood work teacher used to throw bits of wood at your head if you werent listening, little getts dont know their born now.
geesh...my now ex-boss did this all the time - year was 2017...some people complained and even tried to get the police involved, needlessly they (co-workers) where not seen again (fired not sent to sleep with the fishes)
Yes, my wood work teacher used to pick whatever piece of wood was at hand to whack kids that were misbehaving.
Although ironically, if someone threw a bit of wood at your head, you'd either have them charged with assault, or you'd punch their lights out. Why was it not assault to hit someone who is weaker than you?
Had a big crush for Cathy , and Kimberley from Different Strokes 😘
always fancied mrs mcluskey
This boy as girl!!! Very nice!
😂😂😂 back in the days I have experience this hahahhahaha
Hmm.....I don't remember this, what series/episode was it from?
mistofoles Series 4 its from
I’m a 2000s kid (Nov 2002) to be exact and tbh they should bring this back to an extent. Clearly this works better than a detention or exclusion for a week. I definitely don’t agree with beating kids black and blue in the same fashion that you hear about in these parent on child abuse cases but a few strokes on the hand seems to be effective still.
also I heard Mrs McCluskey passed away last week. RIP to her. I hardly know anything about Grange Hill. My mum and dad watched it but I’ve grown up with Waterloo Road and Ackley Bridge.
Poor youstill ' each to their own I say.
I'm a 70's kid & was around when Borstals & Kids home were all over the UK. I've been in Refuges, Orphanages, Kids homes. In all these places & Schools the staff assaulted you, it was the culture then, even the Police assaulted you if you played truant. I remember getting the ruler so many times in Primary School & they didn't need much of a reason. If you have to resort to assaulting Kids then you've failed already. It's a different era now.
@@speedy692 ok I can't disagree with that. The reason I made that comment is just because some kids these days seem to just get away with anything. Discipline seems to have gone out the window but of course that is down to the parents. I should mention that I intended for that kind of punishment to be a very very last resort, if grounding or confiscating devices do not work. But then again, I suppose it is a bit hypocritical - I'd never imagine assaulting my own children.
@@speedy692 Also, what I want to know is why was it the culture then? Without wishing to sound dramatic but was there just a level of tolerance regarding children back then? Or maybe they didn't get the love they do now? I'd like to think most parents did love their children just as much as parents do now even if they didn't show it.
@@evanslater4551 Back then we didn't have anything to confiscate. We went out & played all evening. I suppose if kids didn't conform back then they were seen as a problem, but Teachers & Care home staff assaulting you was far worse than anything kids done back then. You weren't allowed to answer adults back or question them or you'd be punished. Some people may be thinking a kid must've been a right handful if they put him in a home or fostered them out, but believe me some Parents just didn't want you & Social Workers have a lot to answer for back then. Things evolve, before Care homes there were Borstals & if you go back even more Kids would be put in the Workhouse. I know things have gone the other way now & you'd know more about that than me, but it all starts at Home.
We got the strap when I was at school.
I remember getting the cane
I want to know how Mr. Keating knew to bring the cane. Or perhaps he always brings it in the hope he might be allowed to use it on someone. He was disappointed today though!
I thought she was being tickled .When I had it in 1973 .He transferred his weight from the back foot to the front and bought all his weight behind it . I had 2 sleep on my stomach and put a load a cushions under my bum
The 3 strips lasted 3 weeks .
If a cane or paddle is used to punish, I think it best across the bottom rather than the hands. Sounds like you got 3 painful stripes on your bum at school.
At our school the cane was on bare buttocks in assembly without any mercy!!
Like when I was whacked with a rolling pin by a witch of a sculpture teacher. Awful
I went to school in the 1960s, corporal punishment was normal back then, the punishment was carried out by the school secretary with the cane, usually there were between 8 and 16 strokes with the cane on the bare bottom
My one unty ( Mami ) was gave me hand caning punishment for decipline .She was gave me 50 strokes on my palmwith the help of wooden scale in childhood
We had it on the back of the legs in shorts
Nail 'er up, I say! Nail some sense into 'er!
WoooooW
Oh if only that was brought back into schools. Good old discipline. When I was at junior school, not only the cane was used, a slipper, ruler, blackboard eraser and in the music class, a drum stick.
Ah the sting of the belt after it wrapped around your hand brings great memories back
And the reason it was banned was that more often than not, an innocent pupil would be caned and some teachers abused the punishment and would go too far.
not really
@@matthewleslie4448 Me, usually
I remember the cane at my school .. used to frighten the hell out of kids ..
Cane we got the leather I got 6 on each hand once for not telling on another class mate for something he had done.
It’s not as bad as when the boys got paddled and if I’m not mistaken they cut off the ending because they wouldn’t be allowed to show that
What I chiefly remember from this and subsequent series of GH is that while the head and staff came down like a ton of bricks on pupils who did things like smoking or skipping school to go to a gig, they seemed powerless to prevent Benson and his cronies from vandalising the classrooms, or to protect children from a teacher who practiced violent abuse, or to stop Gripper Stebson in his campaigns of bullying and racism. (Except for Baxter of course, who seemed the only one who did anything positive in that direction.)
i was glued to Grange Hill growing up realising that it's the only school in Britain where the pupils didn't swear yet Mary Whitehouse got it banned for a while.
Damn she even tried to get Tom and Jerry banned.
@@briangatt2956 she always talked about protecting children and that what she did was due to being Christian. Could never understand her silence about the activities of countless catholic priests.
Whereas nowadays children get a way with murdering teachers..literally. Like the Pupil who murdered their teacher in front of the class. You go to prison for disciplining them now...Teachers used to beat the pupils badly and it is all backwards...this is all by design of course!
What is the episode number
ممكن رقم الحلقه من فضلكم
time 4 a whank
Lol
Prenton_Dice hear hear
wingobingo Spelleded?
A whank is a combination of a whack and a wank - you get whacked with a cane as you wank - best not progress any further down that route - leave the rest to your imagination!
Really??
good.I like
Did keeting just wander about with the cane just in case he gets the call? 😂
Yeah how did he know about the cane as Mrs McClusky only passed a message to secretary-
Yes he was always ready lol. Constantly on Cane Alert. He liked to call himself Caner Keeting.
@@waynespencer3036 ah those were the days 😆😆
They definitely were. I didn't feel like I'd been school if I hadn't had the cane that day 🤣🤣
@@waynespencer3036 I'm 52 from Scotland i don't recall any teachers having a cane just 2 prong belts.
Loved that sting especially when it wrapped around your fingers.
Yeah but what is that grey object sat on the desk?
Caning the hands can cause permanent damage, they did it on the buttocks at my school, flipping hurt but no real risk of lasting injury.
Was it just as a last resort
At my school they fenced off an area in the playground and sent you in like gladiators to face local hoodlums, armed only with a bucket and a short rounders bat. We realise now it made us good citizens.
Given this is the internet i can't tell if you're joking. Brilliant if you're not.
@@SesameR7sh lol. I’ve just re-read my post from a year ago and I have NO recollection of typing that, nor do I know hope I came up with it!!! It sounds like pure fiction - I was probably ‘sleep-typing’. If it made you laugh then that’s good I guess.
How dare someone think they have the right to injure and degrade someone's body! When I was in school we were punished by being made to sit in the kindergarten. Also, we were threatened with being expelled, and told that your parents would have to pay for you to go to private school or you would end up washing dishes for a living.
This was the 1970's when this was made; school corporal punishment was legal back then, though by that decade it was toned down across state schools across the UK, or banned completely in some schools. It wasn't until 1986 when corporal punishment in state schools across the UK was finally outlawed, however private schools (unless they were partially funded by the government) were legally allowed to still use it until 1998 in England and Wales, 2000 in Scotland and 2003 in Northern Ireland.
Its called instant justice ' i agree you shoudn 't take it too far ' but moderate chastisement never hurt anybody ' even a copper used to clout you if you gave him lip ' sad times we live in now.
Stop being woke, Carol..
We Got Yardstick or Pointer across our Back..
Should bring back a similar consequence for bad behaviour they way kids are now.
Wow shocked me seeing thus on GH. I remember watching it from mid 80's to mid. 90's. I looked at comments that said the show had to factor to much politics, which lost it's realism. You can say black board it's called information board. I say bring it back for the kids today. It helped me through a few growing up things, seeing clips of the old days brought back memories of my own childhood and what I was facing when these episodes were on the air, thanks BBC for GH I'm writing a play and book which if it wasn't for GH I'd never consider it.
+lee Lewis Okay but will your play and book feature pretty girls being caned? That's the most important thing lol. But on a more serious note, it's interesting that you were shocked by it. I'm guessing you're a fair bit younger than me. The idea of corporal punishment in schools may seem very controversial now but a few decades ago it was standard practice. I left school in 1982 so I was among the last generation of kids to experience it (it was banned in state schools in 1987). In the school I went to only the headmaster was allowed to use the cane, but classroom teachers frequently used the plimsoll or dap (we called it the slipper), often for quite minor "offences" such as forgetting to do homework or being too noisy in class. It was usually just one whack on the bottom but if you did something really bad you could get as many as six. The amount of pain it caused varied. Sometimes it was just a mild sting but other times you'd be jumping around! We didn't like it but we accepted it as part of school life.
johnny b how old are you and what country do you live?
johnny b The law as it stood at the time was that only the head or deputy head could inflict corporal punishment on a pupil in a state school - no other teacher had the authority to do so - could only issue lines or detention or whatever - no teacher was permitted by law to put their hands on a pupil, other than to pull two or more would-be pugilists apart - any actual slippering could be done by either the head or deputy head on the bum - only the head could inflict the cane on a pupil on either the bum or, invariably, the hands - a bit annoying just before a music lesson or something requiring the hands - and the most they could issue was six whacks per day (hence the expression "six of the best") - so, if you were really naughty - and we're not talking about not eating your greens, here - and earned 30 whacks, you had to report to the headmaster every day and get six, then come in next day for another six and so on - in fairness to the recipient, each stroke counted, hit or miss - any state school that allowed the English teacher to impose physical punishment on you because you misspelt a word or the maths teacher to hit you because you said that 2+2=5 or the geography teacher to clobber you because you said that Prague was the capital of Poland or the history teacher to beat the crap out of you because you thought Julius Caesar was the emperor of Carthage or whatever was, even back then, breaking the law!
Private (so-called public) schools had their own separate set of rules - giving senior pupils the authority to treat the younger pupils as errand-runners ("fags" they were called - the errand-runners, that is - the senior pupils were called prefects) - as for convent schools - the late comedian Dave Allen built a comedy routine around them - some of them were not above forcing pupils to eat everything on their plate, whether they liked it or not - one item I read in a women's magazine - I find the content of women's magazines more interesting than those aimed at men - all fishing and football and motorsport - related the story of a convent school near Sunderland called Nazareth House - dubbed "Nazi House" by its pupils - a combination of a shortened form of Nazareth and the fact that the nuns acted like they were Nazis - one girl was being force-fed food she didn't like and was throwing most of it back up - the nun said "You will EAT it!" - and started feeding her the sick!
My two boarding schools - the first one was anti-corporal punishment - instead getting pupils to do the work of cleaners, only without the pay - the second one did practice corporal punishment - but the deputy headmaster could only issue the "slipper" - a plimsoll - on the bum - never had the cane in my life - but, by all accounts, only the actual headmaster could issue the cane on either the bum or the hands!
Both my schools did adopt a zero tolerance policy, however, on food being left on the plate or whatever - you had to eat all of everything - that only, it seemed, applied to the main course - they were quite happy to force feed you sprouts or cabbage or cauliflower or all that stuff you don't like, say that, if you eat all your main course, you will get your pudding - sometimes it was pudding - although how half a grapefruit with a glaçé cherry on it constitutes pudding - or counts as cereal in my last boarding school, I don't know - whilst they force fed you fruit as if it was pudding, on the occasions when they SERVED a proper pudding, having been promised - PROMISED - that, having ate all your greens, you would get your pudding, you barely managed to eat a mouthful, only to be told, "Spoons down, please - meal is over!".
Funny how nice puddings were returned, but not greens!
My first boarding school occasionally served the kind of stuff you get in Holland & Barrett - eventually it became the exclusive menu - always brown bread or sugar, never white throughout my entire time there! If it wasn't yellow, brown, green, purple or beige, it wasn't on the menu!
@@arthurvasey What I know about school corporal punishment (well at most since May 1972 after the pupils went on strike to protest about it) is that it got toned down by the 1970's across all State Schools in the UK because it would only be used as a last resort for misbehaving pupils, as seen in this example, however a number of them banned it completely because their local council felt that it was wrong, most notably London's Primary Schools; they had already began phasing out corporal punishment in the late 1960's.
This is the old GH.
In my infant school Mr Lee welcomed us to top infants with the news that he could slipper the girls on their hands and boys on their bottoms.
One day I was sitting in the tiny 'library'.…just a couple of shelves ..and I saw two boys in the corridor looking terrified. Mr Lee came striding down. Without stopping he seized one boy, lifted him by the collar and gave him a huge whack. Then boy 2. I will never forget when he hoisted him, the boy began running in the air to escape. It was a really hard blow. There was no more in sorrow than in anger stuff
Why did he hit them?
The cane may work but I don't like the idea of it being done I am basically a pacifist. I think there are far more effective methods of punishment such detentions groundings and tempoary withdrawal of sweet money. Grange hill along with casualty and prisoner cell block h are my 3 favourite dramas. From Michael from Yorkshire and proud of it.
Indeed there are far worse and more sophisticated psychological punishments that are dished out to kids by passive aggressive liberal parents.
I’d rather get the cane and be done with it tbh.
I got the cane and the slipper as well as getting half strangled by the Headmaster for smirking in assembly, and thumped around the head so hard by a teacher that I fell off my chair! And I was one of the better behaved ones. All in a school day's work back in the 70's.
I got half strangled by the Headmistress with pair of HER thighs wrapped around my head.
I got the cane only once at secondary school and I was more worried about the fact the school told my parents, so I'd get punished again once I got home. With detention you could just tell the folks you had football training or something.
Did she get caned for real in this scene?
That's extreme we only got the belt and it was so wide it just felt like the head was giving me five after a bunch of us got in trouble for having a fish'n chip fight at lunchtime.
That CV wasn't a caning
me next !
I remember when I was eleven and I'd just started high school, I was just stood in the dinner queue with my friend and this big kid (he was a first year just like me but a lot bigger and taller) just came up to me and punched me in the face. It turned out that he was bragging that he was the hardest kid in his old school and his friends were like.. "Prove it, go and punch someone" He hit me so hard I fell down and I had a huge black eye that lasted for over a week.
The headmaster got us both in his office and asked if I was okay. Then he told me to watch. He groped on top of this huge cabinet that looked more like a wardrobe and retrieved a bamboo cane that looked about six feet long.
Then he said "Hold out your hand boy" and the kid put his hand out.. "This is what happens when you hit girls.." He brought his arm right back in a well practised move and brought the cane down hard on the kids hand..
To this day I remember the sound of the cane whistling through the air and the loud crack it made as it hit the boy. He screamed out loud.. and then burst into snotty tears. I'd cried when he punched me but he yelped and cried at least twice as much.
The head cooly informed him that the next time he laid a hand on a girl (curiously enough he didn't mention hitting boys) that he would get two strikes, and if there was another time it would double again to four and so on..
I don't recall that kid putting a single foot out of line for the rest of his years at high school..
Lyca31 what year did it happen in?
Saw a girl at my school punished in a similar way in class..think her name was Keetch, she got 1 on each hand and cried her eyes out
This just some story u made up or something
Speaking as a Teacher (music) I once worked on an International school and the amount of language and bad attitudes the kids though they could get away with , was unbelievable. That level of disrespect and behavior was definitely not tolerated in my day. Sadly though, I was never allowed to discipline the kids and had a flood of emails from parents whenever I did have to raise my voice and exercise my authority.
Explain yourself better ... If you had been allowed to discipline, would you have used the same method? Your comment is unclear.
The systems a joke now ' and a bad one.
Raise your voice? Lol.
That was standard in my day,which was from: September 1988 until June:2000.
It was hilarious to see the scumbags getting shouted at(Like bad recruits on a parade-square:-) & it worked too.
It was nicknamed a verbal-cane,by one old-fashioned teacher.
This included at my:infants,prep-school,primary & secondary schools.
Caning was banned in 1986(In state-schools:-) but continued in private schools up until 1998:when the EU banned it.
The PE teachers at my private-school,used to slipper naughty children with plimsoles.
I think kids of today,don’t know the boundaries & they don’t care,either.
Ive seen children,younger than 10:verbally abusing police officers too & in my day that would have resulted in a:twisted-ear.
My music teacher was called:Nikki Windgrove & not someone you wanted to cross either,as she was like the sergeant-major with a very,loud voice & a habit of throwing those xylophone-sticks at pupils for:disruption & no homework.
They just about missed the head & arms.😂
I think I still bare the scars, though I'm not sure cos I can't see my own backside, a number of our heads of year and indeed the head were brutal when it came to giving you a canning.
Why the hand and not her bare bottom?
Idk I had won my bum 100 times
Do not overlook the fact that kids who are allowed to do just as they like at home , at school, with total impunity then go out into the world and become the lawbreakers.
Truth Teller. No only that. In this day and age people who were born post 1975 think they can do what they like at work.
And by the same token, kids who were routinely beaten at home, go on to be abusers themselves in adulthood. Why does everything have to be expressed in extremes?? You'll probably find that kids who are given a free reign at home, go on to be the entitled narcissists in adulthood, but not necessarily the law breakers.
@@simonshreeve5580 That long /early? I thought it was more late 80s or 90s onward .
Live in America I never got the cane but I got the paddle on a few occasions but the thing about it is I was bullied -picked on and people lied about what I did not do which got me sent to the office or out in the hallway to receive the paddle
Tony Stephen use son
I never got caned at school my father allowed no one but him to punish me or my brother's. Sometime the punishment he would deal out when called by the school would he severe you'd wish you got the cane at school.
Omg good old Cathy what did she even get the cane for??
She told a teacher that her grandmother was ill/dead (can't remember which) so she could leave school early. Bridget was going to expel her, which seemed excessive to me, but Cathy's mother suggested caning instead.
I don't know what the girl did, but wouldn't it make more sense to have the kid fix what they broke, replace what they can't fix, and clean up the mess?
+MondoBeno She hadn't vandalised anything. She'd been playing truant in order to sing with a local band.
Good old days teachers took no shit then to much pc now
R.i.p
Qweeen.
Why is Cathy rubbing her arm when she comes out when Mrs McClusky caned her hand ???
because after the third stroke you tensed your arm you could not help it, and each stroke after that it made your bicep go into spasm, and it hurts like merry hell, the hand is sore and tender after but your whole arm is in pain, it wears off in a couple of hours, and it was always on the hand that you do not write with.
To say I'm here for the comments barely hints at the truth. I shook with laughter... Let's summarise, this comments were one if the following:
1) "yes that's the way to do it! I was spanked for picking my nose in 1933 and it never did me any harm"
2) (unnecessarily detailed description of a previous spanking)
3) "if the socialists had been given this they might have behaved themselves"
4) "Cathy was a looker"
5) "I'd cane one of them myself"
Etcetc
What we need is a good war. And bring back hanging. And open sewers. Like the good old days.
@@alanmackenzie2811 well the sewers came with the Victorians. That, and the Broad Street pump/Cholera history is an extraordinary story.
I'm not here to say corporal punishment is all wrong, either - though I've never much liked it.
I'm in the middle of discovering just how difficult kids can be, and I remember a few years ago a certain Laurie Penny describing child-smacking as "abuse" - and not seeing why her apparent complete lack of experience of parenting might make her opinion a bit suspect
I never had you figured for a sadist, Mrs McCluskey. Shame on you!
She was only doing at the time what was expected of her in certain circumstances.
Only perverts and sadists do this to people .
nope, non sjws and non left wingers do this
I remember a male teacher who would punch older lads espc if he caught them bullying anyone smaller ' good deterrent if you want my opinion ' pretty cool teacher he was with a great sense of humor ' just never get on the wrong side of him ' like jeckl and hyde character.
Bollocks.
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Today’s generation are a bunch of weaklings who want to have it easy with everything.. Bunch of weasels…
Didn’t have a load of little stabbie joes walking around when we had the cane and proper discipline.
Yes but some teachers were abusive.
Girls never got the cane as I remember.
we need a return to the cane and the application should be severe.
Severe corporal punishment with the cane should be reintroduced, thereby promoting obedience and discipline
Quite right this was banned as it was abhorrent.
Keating was massively disappointed when McCluskey told him she’d do the caning. The sick pervert!
What year was this?
S4 was 1981.
This is nothing my Dad used to use a motor bike chain
Just the chain? You were lucky, my dad used the entire bike!
@@reddwarfer999 you win good sir
after mrs Hargreaves says "she'll get over it" it sounds like someone farts.
Cathy's mum is different to the mum in series 2
BOW CHICKA WOW WOW
How old is this movie
its grange hill - it was a childrens tv show that ran for 30 years, i think this was season 2 (1979)
This tickles if youre an asian kid
Still can't beat the caning scene in kes
That scene was actually a mistake. From what I gather, it was for real and not expected to be so!!
"A proper little cigarette factory", the poor kid who was accidentally caned! Could not but feel sorry for him...
@@EarlEBird-fz6yr I saw this come up in my notifications. “Proper little cigarette factory” is like a meme!!
I remember Cathy being caned my mate what was watching this with me said stand up there's nothing to be scared of, I cant remember what Cathy were caned for, Anyone know it was bad behaviour obviously like what though?
Playing truant and shoplifting I think.
+ceri nolancerinolan I remember seeing it too (I was about 13 at the time). She was caned because she'd been playing truant in order to sing with a local band.
Brko
Bringbackthepalingyouwoodnothavekidstryingtokilleachotherifthaydid
Those who grew up with corporal punishment knew it was normalised. Pain is a deterrent.
Shame they can't bring the cane back into schools discipline has gone down the toilet after they banned the cane.
You are so right and I say that as one who experienced corporal punishment at school.
What do you mean can't? Of course they can, they work for us. Our taxes pay them. We tell them what to do. The problem is they been telling us for so long while we sit back and let them. If you want it back put it back. Simple. Grow some balls. The only power a school department has is what we allow. Take back the schools and save the kids.
I don't see why it has to be about extremes; beating the child or pandering to them. There has to be a middle ground, far more effective than physical punishment.
Can we cane troublesome adults too.
D CANE PUT IT DOWN
At another school I attended canings were carried out on the school yard by professional caners , bottoms were caned at 100mph, often the poor kid getting caned got 25-99 lashes and rest of school had to watch. Buttocks ofter got turned to mulsh and bits of bottoms would sometimes fly into the assembled spectators, sometimes the poor kid would poo and bits of poo would fly into those spectators. Very harsh back then, very harsh
Where was your school? Malaysia?
Whatever pal
That i have to say is barbaric ' six of the best on his bum is fine ' but no need to half kill or desect him.
I don't believe that story not one bit.
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When I went 2 s hook girls were canned across the hand .
This is great!
had a few occasions of corporal punishment myslef, good old 1970s education.
In our school, corporal punishment was carried out with the cane, which made us obedient and attentive students
Do you think you deserved it?
Grange Hill was entertaining but nothing like a real school. The teachers talked bollocks most of the time and none of the kids ever said f*#k!
who liked it sado masochit