The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism - Max Weber

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  • čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
  • We cover the basic ideas from Max Weber's "The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism" to set the foundation for the colonizing of New England and explore one theory for how modern capitalism came into being.
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Komentáře • 52

  • @Sunfried1
    @Sunfried1 Před 10 měsíci +9

    Regarding your example of the Asian work ethic, keep in mind that countries like Japan and South Korea have been heavily influenced by Confucianism and its work ethic which is traditionally interpreted in terms of diligent loyalty toward one's superiors.

  • @Alex-zl5ht
    @Alex-zl5ht Před 4 lety +20

    0:00 prelude- Martin Luther ect.
    16:10 Max Weber
    17:50 economic traditionalism
    19:40 economic rationalism
    31:00 work
    52:50- 53:40 Weber's parents
    57:00 persecution? Calvinists

  • @CBlade0
    @CBlade0 Před 2 lety +2

    Excellent episode to be sure. From breaking down his arguments, it really sounds like his conclusion is a series of inferences, not actually stated by leaders at the time in any way, or without sources.

  • @Goofy8907
    @Goofy8907 Před 5 měsíci +1

    For such a long episode, it would be been awesome if you initially explained what "selling indulgences" and "purgatory" even is
    I had to search to figure it out, which is fine
    But it would've been nice if it had been explained
    I did not at all know it was a thing
    It is truly crazy and again shows all the contradictions with hierarchical institutions as well as how their defenders are completely unaware of how messed up they are while blaming others
    Anyways, great episode once again

  • @waywardgeologist2520
    @waywardgeologist2520 Před 5 měsíci

    50:13 because “you don’t work, you don’t eat.” As for the vacant house, it’s someone’s private property, not yours, not mine. If a person wants their own house let them do like I did build it with their own hands.

  • @Goofy8907
    @Goofy8907 Před 3 měsíci

    36:15 there are no goats for chickens as "money"
    Have you not read Graebar?

  • @JoeyAfrika
    @JoeyAfrika Před rokem +2

    44:00 is everyone really a capitalist? Can you be a capitalist if you don't own the means of production?

    • @RevolutionandIdeology
      @RevolutionandIdeology  Před rokem +4

      Good philosophical question...though things have become more diffuse since Weber's days. The answer is complex (and thus one way capitalism perpetuates itself ideally).

  • @waywardgeologist2520
    @waywardgeologist2520 Před 5 měsíci

    51:09 no, those who have certain things worked hard for them, spent time and personal energy to obtain things, practice frugality, and avoided destructive devices.

  • @JohnSmith-vm8rx
    @JohnSmith-vm8rx Před 11 měsíci

    “Marxism teaches us that history is not meaningless. The present situation is not an expression of the madness or the inherent wickedness of men and women. The great philosopher Spinoza once said: “neither weep nor laugh, but understand!” That is very sound advice, for if we are not able to understand.” - Alan Woods, What is Marxism?

  • @mrkappas6146
    @mrkappas6146 Před 4 lety +1

    Nice podcast, I have really enjoyed it thus far, but I would like to make an argument on the last segment regarding the persecution(3 last minutes of the episode). It is very dangerous to justify a persecution, even more dangerous to say that they brought it upon themselves.

    • @beenasfarastodecidetouseve6733
      @beenasfarastodecidetouseve6733 Před 3 lety

      I liked this podcast, but found this part funny. Imagine applying the same logic to the countless Jewish persecutions throughout history. With the same logic: "how could everyone who persecuted them be wrong? What are the chances! They brought it upon themselves."
      Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to discuss when particular groups DO bring persecution on themselves. But I doubt these two would speak so openly about any other group that isn't Christian.

  • @bille6428
    @bille6428 Před měsícem

    Just wish there were more commercials breaks

  • @waywardgeologist2520
    @waywardgeologist2520 Před 5 měsíci

    49:35 strange left out China.

  • @GarySmith-vi9fi
    @GarySmith-vi9fi Před 2 lety +4

    This podcast seems takes a Revisionist historical view of all the issues. It appears to repeatedly interpret Calvin through the lens of those who would take the most carnal position rather than those who reasonably assess Calvin in line with Scripture. This podcast seems to assume the former were not only the most dominant but the only position worth discussing. But I would think the theology of the Sabbath in relation to the importance of "rest" would be a an important part of the Protestant work ethic and would balance the position presented here.

    • @RevolutionandIdeology
      @RevolutionandIdeology  Před 2 lety +2

      "This podcast" is merely discussing the ideas of Max Weber.

    • @captainzork6109
      @captainzork6109 Před rokem

      Good points, I think

    • @Shindler39
      @Shindler39 Před rokem

      Great point, the theology of the Sabbath and the importance of the day of the Lord is part of calvinism.

    • @bungalowlogic7676
      @bungalowlogic7676 Před 7 měsíci

      Just read the book. Weber mentions the publication of the Book of Sports in the 1630s by King James I and Charles I which made allowances for leisure activities on the Sabbath Sunday. Implied is that it was decreed maybe as antagonistic to the strict rules Calvinists adhered to.

  • @JoeyAfrika
    @JoeyAfrika Před rokem +1

    Another great video! Getting through the myth is amerikkka series. Can yall please repost the video on the trilateral commission? That was one of the most powerful video on CZcams! Anyway Peace yall

    • @RevolutionandIdeology
      @RevolutionandIdeology  Před rokem +1

      We can't. They keep taking it down. It's here if you want: odysee.com/@RevolutionAndIdeology:2/the-trilateral-commission-and-the-crisis:c

    • @JoeyAfrika
      @JoeyAfrika Před rokem +1

      @@RevolutionandIdeology thanks for the link. Just shared it with about 5 people. I think the trilateral commision took the crisis of democracy PDF down

    • @RevolutionandIdeology
      @RevolutionandIdeology  Před rokem +1

      @@JoeyAfrika It's on the Internet Archive: ia800305.us.archive.org/29/items/TheCrisisOfDemocracy-TrilateralCommission-1975/crisis_of_democracy_text.pdf

  • @ArmandoPineda-fc1wl
    @ArmandoPineda-fc1wl Před 9 měsíci

    Talk about the looting of catholic monasteries.

  • @ArmandoPineda-fc1wl
    @ArmandoPineda-fc1wl Před 9 měsíci +1

    Luther decentralized religion.

  • @waywardgeologist2520
    @waywardgeologist2520 Před 5 měsíci

    50:49 it isn’t. The question should be why are they homeless? They are in control of their own lives and what choices have they made? Probably bad ones.

  • @waywardgeologist2520
    @waywardgeologist2520 Před 5 měsíci

    49:00 Jesus did it because it was being done in the Temple, God’s house, not specifically the act.

  • @ChicagoTurtle1
    @ChicagoTurtle1 Před rokem +1

    Wait. First printing press was invented in Korea? It seems like even before that, it’s China or Sumer.

  • @robertbergdahl
    @robertbergdahl Před 7 měsíci +1

    John Calvin held the inverse of capitalism. His view on usury would prohibit the rise of a commercial banking class and absolutely prohibited interest on loans to the poor, which would have been most of the working class population of all Europe. Capitalism rises from the civil nation state and empire, not the church. Nationalized greed not individual works of piety. Way too simplified theological history in this episode. Jesus cleansing the temple of moneychangers proves the theological point. Protecting the poor from the business class is required for the christian. Chicago School be damned!
    Frederick Nymeyer, John Calvin on Interest, Progressive Calvinism , vol. 3 (1957), 55.

  • @09diz
    @09diz Před 4 lety +1

    faith in currency is way older than the protestant movement.

  • @09diz
    @09diz Před 4 lety

    i cant believe! you´re blaming vanity on calvinism? like it is some sort of a branch of it.

  • @dougknibbe7053
    @dougknibbe7053 Před rokem

    Anyone who is prideful in association with the doctrine of election has missed the point. The beauty of capitalism is that you benefit by serving others.

  • @09diz
    @09diz Před 4 lety

    status is a biological pursue.

  • @reachvictoria3386
    @reachvictoria3386 Před 3 lety +1

    The level at which you misrepresent Calvinism/Calvinists is almost shocking. But based on the agenda of this channel is hardly surprising.

    • @RevolutionandIdeology
      @RevolutionandIdeology  Před 3 lety +7

      Be mad at Weber.

    • @reachvictoria3386
      @reachvictoria3386 Před 3 lety

      @@RevolutionandIdeology right. Anyway, I don’t recall saying anything about being mad, but if that’s your takeaway, fine. Like I said, the misrepresentation was “almost shocking,” but not really shocking, all things considered. The first commented (deleted?) was likewise not really shocking. This one wasn’t really necessary or relevant.

    • @Moodboard39
      @Moodboard39 Před 8 měsíci

      @@reachvictoria3386did he really or u just blaming

  • @PL-jm8ew
    @PL-jm8ew Před rokem +1

    Wow, these guys have no understanding of Protestantism.