The Future of the American Dream

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  • čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
  • Are we on the verge of a new American Dream?
    Welcome back to "The Ben & Marc Show," featuring a16z co-founders Marc Andreessen and Ben Horowitz. In this timely new episode, Marc and Ben explore the foundations of American life and identity.
    From the material aspects of home ownership, education, and healthcare, to the intangible aspects of community and self-actualization, Ben and Marc reveal what it truly means to be American today. They also examine the numerous challenges our nation now faces, as well as reveal how technology can soon revolutionize American life, business and culture in unprecedented ways. That and more. Enjoy!
    Topics covered:
    00:00:00 Teaser
    00:00:31 Intro
    00:02:28 Home ownership, education and healthcare
    00:05:43 Self-actualization
    00:07:57 Industrial Revolution's impact on the American Dream
    00:09:21 Cultural aspects
    00:10:02 The Promised Land
    00:15:52 Anybody can become American
    00:20:24 Protestant ethics as a foundation to the American Dream
    00:27:40 Tribalism
    00:31:53 Economy bifurcated into Fast vs. Slow categories
    00:36:33 Subsidizing demand and restricting supply leads to high prices
    00:39:18 The Doom Loop
    00:41:30 How tech can help us achieve the American Dream
    00:43:43 Accreditation process in higher ed
    00:48:25 Zero-sum mentality as a foundation for populism
    00:50:19 Are we on the verge of a new American Dream?
    00:53:10 American Dream in the AI era
    00:57:20 Rise of general purpose robotics
    01:00:16 Automation of bureaucracy
    01:02:24 Sign off
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Komentáře • 136

  • @dharmaone77
    @dharmaone77 Před 12 dny +35

    I need a CZcams speed setting that slows Marc down 0.5x and speeds Ben up by 1.5x 😅

    • @serajmehrabkhani7333
      @serajmehrabkhani7333 Před 10 dny +2

      The fact that they have been able to work with one another for 30 years with that difference is fascinating

  • @ricardochavez6720
    @ricardochavez6720 Před 12 dny +8

    this is becoming my favorite podcast. i love the topics / commentary and open dialogue. great job to you both

  • @marctwashere3653
    @marctwashere3653 Před 13 dny +7

    Yes please do another episode going into more detail
    Marc is increíble at explaining the economic inner workings of things

  • @zuma404
    @zuma404 Před 13 dny +9

    Thank you for the great conversation, guys! Keep it up!

  • @pleasurepoint
    @pleasurepoint Před 13 dny +5

    Enjoyed the listen--thanks fellas!

  • @davidkey4272
    @davidkey4272 Před 13 dny +22

    More than likely, the poor economic situation, and the social distress is largely a caused by an unusually large generation which has held the ring of power for much longer than any generation has a right to. that time is ending and I can see a lot of this turning around in the next 20 years.

    • @jaythefox
      @jaythefox Před 13 dny

      Well... a large elite layer of a large generation, not all got lucky!

    • @mkperez7465
      @mkperez7465 Před 13 dny

      @@jaythefox its deeper than that, the boomer generation were all indoctrinated completely by the state, gen z is getting access to information earlier than any other generation in our species existence. we are on the verge of either going off the deep end or falling off.

    • @cyberft
      @cyberft Před 11 dny

      @@jaythefoxthey all vote themselves benefits regardless of social class.

    • @jaythefox
      @jaythefox Před 9 dny

      @@cyberft Benefits can't keep up with inflation. The rich dominate us all!

  • @thephilosophicalagnostic2177

    Benjamin Franklin was famous for his sayings praising delayed gratification. But John Adams also addressed this in a letter. He was convinced delayed gratification would lead to progress. Here's the famous quote: “I must study Politicks and War that my sons may have liberty to study Mathematicks and Philosophy. My sons ought to study Mathematicks and Philosophy, Geography, natural History, Naval Architecture, navigation, Commerce and Agriculture, in order to give their Children a right to study Painting, Poetry, Musick, Architecture, Statuary, Tapestry and Porcelaine.”

    • @bradm8529
      @bradm8529 Před 13 dny +2

      Incredible

    • @riumudamc4686
      @riumudamc4686 Před 12 dny +3

      While that may be true it needs to be approached with caution:
      “Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times” is a quote from a postapocalyptic novel by G. Michael Hopf

    • @LeveragedFinance
      @LeveragedFinance Před 11 dny

      Pray for autodidact kids who learn from chat gpt tutor. Because human labor will be so expensive, traditional education will cost $200k a year

  • @jaythefox
    @jaythefox Před 13 dny +9

    45:30 "If you have a school that's not accredited, it's likely not recognised by employers"
    Interesting. Shouldn't the "free market" have quickly routed around such inefficiency by employers simply ignoring accreditation and examining transcripts or samples of student work instead?
    Seems to me that the corporate system, including Silicon Valley, is dominated by a large comfortable class who graduated from Ivys and don't want too much genuine creative-destruction or "disruption" as they put it.
    Seems to me that the system isn't trying to get the best out of employees, but just looking for excuses to keep them subordinated, performing inefficient tedious work while the Ivy League elites get all the interesting jobs and all the promotions/raises.
    No wonder productivity growth has been trending down. No wonder there's rampant inflation. No wonder political leaders are poor quality. No wonder healthcare costs the earth and is inefficient. No wonder San Francisco has become a corrupt crime-ridden hell hole.
    No wonder, when your whole economic system is heartless and inhumane, built on privilege and denial of opportunities.

    • @joythought
      @joythought Před 13 dny +3

      I think they are too lazy to figure out the inefficiencies and are too risk averse because they don't want to be laughed at by their golfing buddies for hiring outside of the top universities. They are so lazy that they are way too lazy to actively oppress you. Instead they are busy protecting the importance of their benefits that ensures you going to the wrong university matters...

    • @ChrisAthanas
      @ChrisAthanas Před 13 dny

      These boomers are very far out of touch
      Prepare for a violent decade

    • @Decocoa
      @Decocoa Před 10 dny

      Nailed it

  • @cscottblev
    @cscottblev Před 13 dny +3

    Great session, guys. I always appreciate your perspectives. I wouldn’t mind a deeper dive on several of these very important topics ❤

  • @gregorypitts5880
    @gregorypitts5880 Před 13 dny +2

    Great episode! Definitely hope there is a follow up deep dive into the individual topics.

  • @LicoInvestments
    @LicoInvestments Před 12 dny +1

    This is now one of my top favorite podcasts. Amazing thoughts and insights. Great info guys.
    I'm now long health insurance. Now I understand why Michael Burry has them in his portfolio.

  • @viybzcontact
    @viybzcontact Před 10 dny

    Absolutely loved this. Please continue to dive deeper down this rabbit hole. Appreciate you two.

  • @drewpac927
    @drewpac927 Před 12 dny +2

    The American Dream is to have great hair. Many successful men have made their riches yet still fall short of reaching this marquee moment in life.

    • @rafa374
      @rafa374 Před 11 dny

      And Esau is an hairy man. So true

  • @jwolpert
    @jwolpert Před 13 dny +2

    Is the causal factor of the slow sector price rises government regulation or that these sectors are complicated by fundamental balance issues like “let’s not poison the food” or “there’s only so much land to parcel out to private owners” or “parents have really complicated triggers over what they will go nuts about if they hear about something going on at school, and we can’t please everyone”? It seems reasonable to suggest that maybe on some cases regulation is the y variable and competing interests over scarce resources (including time and what rules we set) are the x variables. No?

  • @joeym7960
    @joeym7960 Před 13 dny +2

    Great discussion. Would be fun if Marc and Ben wore a different wig each week to represent the topic.

  • @michaelmcbride2045
    @michaelmcbride2045 Před 13 dny +2

    The algorithm keeps recommending this channel, and I do agree with the points made about housing. However, the section on religion felt out of place and relied on stereotypes, which made me downvote. Additionally, the discussion on price increases ignored the role of corporate profiteering in areas like healthcare, education, and food. The argument about American manufacturing also seemed inaccurate, given our strong global presence in industries like cars and software which are heavily regulated too.

  • @lionbliss
    @lionbliss Před 13 dny +2

    Intro scared me, excited for the show!

  • @sagarvarma4700
    @sagarvarma4700 Před 13 dny +2

    Great video!

  • @foswa6335
    @foswa6335 Před 13 dny +2

    I will enjoy !

  • @bzzt88
    @bzzt88 Před 6 dny

    Omg Ben is the son of THAT Horowitz! Awesome! ❤❤❤

  • @mgetommy
    @mgetommy Před 10 dny

    Enjoyed this a lot

  •  Před 4 dny

    Kudos for taking on this subject. The American Dream, like the idea of Empire for the British, is a cultural construct fraught with contradiction and largely fueled by conquest of land and people. If history has taught us anything, it is that people, masses of them, will be the catalyst for change and adaption for the future Dream. Or despotism, which is what we've operated under far longer as humans. One immediate answer to lowering costs of the 3 pillars discussed is immigration. Housing costs are not just because of local zoning laws. We have tons of land to build. We don't have the labor. Want to decrease healthcare costs, bring in more immigrants who want these jobs, especially for elder care, and break up the monopoly on training doctors. Want more tax dollars for education, bring in more immigrants who are consumers and driving down the cost of production. It isn't easy, but we've done it before. Completely agree that technology should make the current education model obsolete.

  • @BradleyJH
    @BradleyJH Před 8 dny +1

    Is the supply side of education actually limited? How hard is it to become accredited university?
    Small colleges across the US are closing rapidly as enrollment falls.

  • @tocatlian
    @tocatlian Před 5 dny

    I found that it got real interesting right around the 30-minute mark.

  • @ChrisAthanas
    @ChrisAthanas Před 13 dny +5

    52:04 the boomers expectation of endless technological breakthroughs to solve these deep social problems underlies why these issues will never be resolved by these kinds of fools
    We all suffer these dolts in the mean time

  • @ReflectionOcean
    @ReflectionOcean Před 11 dny

    By YouSum Live
    00:16:38 Founding ideals of American dream and societal evolution.
    00:16:51 Struggle for black freedom and realization of American dream.
    00:17:12 Unique aspect of American dream: inclusivity and participation.
    00:17:32 America's progress towards equality and societal inclusiveness.
    00:17:59 Immigrant and descendant of slaves' integration into American dream.
    00:18:22 America's equality and inclusivity compared to other nations.
    00:18:43 Citizenship process as transformative American experience.
    00:20:43 Protestant work ethic's significance in American dream.
    00:22:01 Protestantism's influence on American values and rights.
    00:28:03 Contrast between Protestant work ethic and tribal mentalities.
    00:29:03 Impact of Protestant work ethic on American culture and society.
    00:30:00 American Dream: Material & Aspirational Components.
    00:31:53 Comparison of tribalism and Protestant work ethic.
    00:32:00 Home Ownership: Rootedness, Stability, Freedom.
    00:32:02 Challenges to historical concept of American dream.
    00:33:08 Dichotomy of fast and slow categories in modern economy.
    00:34:39 American dream sectors: housing, education, healthcare.
    00:35:31 Rising prices in key sectors surpass inflation rates.
    00:35:37 Massive inflation in housing, education, healthcare costs.
    00:37:00 Government subsidies fuel rising prices in essential sectors.
    00:37:10 Subsidized demand and restricted supply inflate prices indefinitely.
    00:37:18 Student loan forgiveness exacerbates education cost crisis.
    00:41:00 Education: Advancement, Prosperity, Economic Mobility.
    00:44:03 Accreditation process controlled by incumbents limits innovation.
    00:47:00 Healthcare: Access, Quality, Longevity.
    00:47:26 Local zoning laws hinder housing supply, driving prices up.
    00:48:46 Economic impracticality challenges the realization of the American dream.
    00:50:36 Transition from Industrial to Information Age.
    00:51:46 Potential for radical societal reinvention.
    00:53:27 Education revolution with AI accessibility.
    00:55:19 Healthcare transformation through diagnostics and AI.
    00:56:09 Housing advancements with 3D printing and cost reduction.
    00:57:38 Robotics revolution for household liberation and productivity.
    00:59:00 Cultural Backbone: God, Family, Work Ethic.
    01:00:32 Governmental reform through Information Technology.
    01:02:00 Historical Evolution: Industrial Revolution Impact.
    01:06:00 Land Ownership: Inalienable Right, Pursuit of Property.
    01:15:00 Ethnicity & Religion: Tribal Affiliations vs. American Identity.
    By YouSum Live

  • @k.k8291
    @k.k8291 Před 13 dny +4

    Great conversation.

  • @grahamlawlor8361
    @grahamlawlor8361 Před 13 dny +1

    Great conversation. I think your "most important chart ever" should go back a lot further than 20 years. I wonder how it would look if it went back to the Declaration of Independence. Also, could your definition of the American dream have been formulated after you learned about that chart and you cite it so often because it confirms your pre-existing biases (against regulation)?

  • @ReasonableHuman1
    @ReasonableHuman1 Před 12 dny

    This is actually good 👍

  • @TuitionNearMe
    @TuitionNearMe Před 13 dny +9

    I stepped out of the airliner, inhaled deeply and thought to myself, "Yes, the American dream!"
    30 mins later, bumping around in a Lyft, holding onto the handrail and thinking (screaming internally), "What kind of aging road infrastructure is this?!"
    1 hr after, riding in a metro, thinking, "What kinda metro is this? Its basically trying its best to chug along!"
    2 hrs later, in a restaurant. Waitress, "Hey, it will be great if you can tip yeah? I dont really earn a lot." Me thinking to myself, "What? Dont the restaurant pay you enough? ????"
    3hrs later in a Lyft again. "Excuse me, im curious about why you dont use the blinkers when you switch lanes?" Driver, putting his five fingers together upright and shaking it at me,"Never ever show anyone your weakness! Never!"
    4 hrs later, strolling along the road. A person walked past and said," Yo, MF, what's up?" Me thinking,"Wait a minute, did that person called me a MF and walked away?"
    3 years later.....

    • @stevebuscemi4185
      @stevebuscemi4185 Před 13 dny +1

      Sounds like a you problem

    • @sp123
      @sp123 Před 13 dny +1

      America's biggest strength is that they don't tax as much as European nations so you get to keep more income

    • @joythought
      @joythought Před 13 dny +5

      OP, yes that's a common experience of people coming from the developed world to the US. Yes, US infrastructure is frequently awful. Terrible roads, dirty streets, poor rail equipment with signs of wear, rust, and age everywhere, smelly metros, etc. There is a sense of private space is valuable and the commons is abused. But as you say "3 years later..."
      Americans are very unaware of how much of the world has passed them by in terms of living standards, social trust, etc. But most people around the still love the idea of a healthy American democracy able to be a shining light on the hill. Gotta hope to get back to that. Reagan is looking a lot better from here than from the day he was inaugurated and flailed over his words.

    • @ChrisAthanas
      @ChrisAthanas Před 13 dny +3

      The hypocrisies of these hosts is being revealed for the absolute lies they are

  • @joewilder
    @joewilder Před 13 dny

    Did you take inspiration from Toyota's EV (Bz4x) for the name of your show?

  • @JessicaQChen-lv5uk
    @JessicaQChen-lv5uk Před 13 dny +1

    I like Ben's T shirt and want to purchase one for my husband. Where can i purchase one?

  • @petersuvara
    @petersuvara Před 4 dny

    9:40, this actually tells me the American Dream is based heavily on Protestant cultural roots. God, Family, Work... It's definitely not the piety of orthodoxy which I don't find has the same application of "work".

  • @user-yf6vm4rz5g
    @user-yf6vm4rz5g Před 9 dny

    so, what is the relationship between this channel and the podcast a16z?

  • @ChairmanHehe
    @ChairmanHehe Před 13 dny +1

    i absolutely love this show guys- also nice logo color 😀

  • @kahwatv
    @kahwatv Před 13 dny +2

    Ben you are wrong about citizenship being so special in U.S vs other democratic country (like France). Citizenship can be granted the same way. I guess American exceptionalism is in the eye of the beholder.

    • @ChrisAthanas
      @ChrisAthanas Před 13 dny +1

      Anyone can become a Mexican citizen by having a kid with any Mexican
      So a16z is wrong once again

  • @bettercallsha0
    @bettercallsha0 Před 11 dny

    Expected VC evangelism, pleasantly surprised with the religious evangelism.

  • @driz77
    @driz77 Před 13 dny +2

    American Dream? It died over the last 40 years. Since 1980, HALF of 60%-middle-class real-wealth has been redistributed into the top 10%. And that trend continues. it's why our social polarization today is at historically high levels, and worsening. It's why middle-class personal debt is at its highest historical level. It's why personal real savings (middle-class) is at its historical low. From 1945-1980, every class rose to its highest potential -- the American Dream -- true Pareto wealth and income distribution. This was not an accident. It was designed by Truman-Eisenhower demand-side policies (tax, fiscal, regulatory). Since 1980, supply-side policies (by design) have caused the greatest Pareto class-deviation since 1928. By design. Watch Galloway's recent TED talk for just a few symptoms of 40 years of neo-liberal economic policy. The American Dream is dead.

    • @captcurthess
      @captcurthess Před 11 dny

      Before Ronnie cut taxes for the rich (and started taxing Social Security) selling the ridiculous “trickle down”, high marginal rates (90% over $4M), owners would give the profits to their workers…hence a strong middle class with the folks who actually earned the profits. Republicans have been selling that same principle for 50-years…and now only the rich get the American Dream and elect inherited wealth like Trump run the country. So sad that the poor people who vote for him don’t get this fundamental fact.

  • @josephbrown4342
    @josephbrown4342 Před 9 dny

    "Owning a home is outdated and harmful" sounds like the luxury beliefs of a wealthy home owner.

  • @rafa374
    @rafa374 Před 11 dny

    Great analysis minus one factor. The rich have paid less and less taxes and their share acquired more and more power and influence and the poorer have had less and less to buy the skyrocketing basics

  • @serajmehrabkhani7333
    @serajmehrabkhani7333 Před 10 dny

    Give us part 2

  • @brandonreed09
    @brandonreed09 Před 13 dny

    I think what we need is to have mortgages for investment in lower risk ETFs rather than homes. Without the leverage limits which currently exist and longer term investment horizons.

  • @satioOeinas
    @satioOeinas Před 13 dny +2

    America is in need of more technology innovation, but our social / economical problems can be entirely solved in a sufficiently manner simply by tweaking social / governance structures and regulations.

    • @jaythefox
      @jaythefox Před 13 dny +1

      America needs higher **quality** of innovation, not higher **quantity** of innovation.
      There's plenty of stupid innovation in fancy gadgets like AI chatbots, crypto tokens, etc. Also plenty in overseas military campaigns. Not as much innovation in infrastructure, home building, medical services, things real people care about.
      What America needs is better incentive systems and more open, accessible and participatory institutions. Such as universities that don't charge an arm and a leg and that genuinely help students to learn and grow. And that target **economically** diverse students, not just already-privileged who fit a certain profile of the ideal student.
      And on the military side, more sophisticated diplomacy and "soft-skills" in foreign relations to prevent conflicts in the first place.

    • @ChrisAthanas
      @ChrisAthanas Před 13 dny +1

      Tweaking or by making everyone tweakers?

    • @satioOeinas
      @satioOeinas Před 13 dny +1

      @@jaythefoxI generally agree with your statement. I’m not from America, so I wish you luck!

    • @jaythefox
      @jaythefox Před 13 dny

      @@satioOeinas Thanks, I'm from Australia actually 😄 maybe an outsider sometimes can be more objective.

  • @andre-le-bone-aparte
    @andre-le-bone-aparte Před 12 dny +1

    LOL - Update the tax code and eliminate the loop holes - That's the disruptive startup that is needed.

  • @foundational
    @foundational Před 13 dny +2

    VCs saving america. Nice 👍🙂

  • @andrewdrewchin
    @andrewdrewchin Před 13 dny +1

    This was good!

  • @huasonia1
    @huasonia1 Před 8 dny

    Just let community college offer MIT /Harbard Yale classes

  • @ChrisAthanas
    @ChrisAthanas Před 13 dny +4

    58:56 cmon man
    People just do drugs or get into trouble
    1% may do something useful
    What about the other 99% who will just cause trouble?

  • @dadsonworldwide3238
    @dadsonworldwide3238 Před 10 dny

    You guys nail it. The elusive prosperity is born first in uks 1300s global peasant revolt that is small in scope even records of it in the Islamic world is recorded as an eccentric protest.
    But this was profound on the orgin of mechanics and launching the 2nd big enlightenment in Europe in concert with printing press.
    Very similar in drawing on the mosaic alphabetical exodus that sparks the Helenistic enlightenment in concert with paper scroll production.
    This uk separatist pilgrim puritan classical ( esoterica America) ancestry is born in mechanics with eccentric fundamentalistic Christian foresight of the computational age.
    The Amish bail on the american experiment over this idealism as many where talking of literally measuring the left over fingerprints of jesus christ in life itself. Ideas dna God fsmiky and country .
    After the witch trials they had enough old world and pragmatic common sense objectivism with educating serfs snd slave alike in concert with technology used to eradicate needs and demands that drove good men to do bad things for survival was already established.
    This what everyone migrated and even abroad has been a magnet to .
    1900s the world intervened and postponed this slow cooking longer-term healing and the mass displacement immigration didn't understand esoterica America they didn't have the patience for bottom up and you heard things like this is to trinitarian or not nicean creed enough.
    Ww2 got in the way reagan and thatcher extended temporary waiver bringing us up to date.
    We achieved all these goal ,liberated common sense marginalized groups leaving only extremist or criminals. We've industrialized the 3rd world.
    It's not perfect but we charged the native family cells in doing all this from woman's suffrage to affirmative action. From farming out entire electronic industry to South Korea with full access to patents and loans to giving tiawan microchips far from American domestic courts jurisdictions until recently bringing it home.
    We still havnt full filled our serfdom dreams of becoming kings of our own castle live out our dreams through a love of labor useing tech to overcome handicaps.
    We havmt placed all markets under one roof in one domain where private individuals can sub contract out they're skills and trade online.
    We have reduced training to universal operating systems where youth can quickly enter the workforce and spread out medium density better quality of life local ownership of infrastructure.
    Saving one soul at a time bottom up rule
    All this is born in uk in concert with English orientation and direction
    Profoundly changed lives forever till this very day
    X,y,z man made time hierarchy knowledge of Good and evil equations.
    Identify the fall in man not nature.
    Soul agency correlated with eternal cosmos ground floor of reality itself Saint Paul metamorphosis in reverse.
    Mri machine line of thought simulation creation inspired modeling.
    Jesus ( 1 for-m Dx 2 thru dy 3 dz by = reorientate saved.
    3 degrees of separation = physically mystified minds 3 body problem if you look at it wrong it ends in uncertainty. Lol
    3 of any shape grinded together creates the flattest surfaces known standards of all precision instruments.
    3 body government of selfless actors can obtain balance the most precise objective standards.
    Sigma 6 measure in idealism, subjectivity just like physical properties.
    Pragmatic common sense objectivism is designed with computational future beast in mind.
    That physicalism is subject to changchawithout notice just like any other idealistic or subjective systems.

  • @captainoctonion9045
    @captainoctonion9045 Před 7 dny

    Why are they so certain that people with too much free time are going to explore the world, learn something new etc. I believe it is not the natural inclination after losing a job and having free money handed to you. I'm in fact pretty certain of that

  • @MrTerrorFace
    @MrTerrorFace Před 9 dny

    We need a Javier Milei-esque figure in the US.

  • @darkerisbetter8699
    @darkerisbetter8699 Před 13 dny +1

    The labor constraint - on housing, healthcare, and education - was not discussed enough.
    We haven't found a way (yet) for a doctor to see hundreds of patients in a day.
    Durable goods (e.g. TVs) scale much much better than services.

  • @jonbrouwer4300
    @jonbrouwer4300 Před 13 dny

    Good point about people these days demanding a comfy life without contributing good work in exchange.
    However, just because the market puts a high dollar value on some set of tasks doesn't make those tasks fulfilling. Only a psycho could be religiously devoted to writing emails about the graphics on labels for cans of soup, or any of the other mind numbingly boring jobs people spend their lives on.

  • @mariamathews5312
    @mariamathews5312 Před 11 dny

    Can the entire us government bureaucracy be eliminated and replaced with AI?

  • @michaelmeram6156
    @michaelmeram6156 Před 13 dny +4

    Dude i'm gonna save America

  • @captainoctonion9045
    @captainoctonion9045 Před 7 dny

    "AI is gonna tutor better than any teacher"
    Highly doubt that. That's not how you learn, you learn by solving a real world problems, not the generated by chatgpt ones. I can't believe I have to type something this obvious

  • @BakedBotAI
    @BakedBotAI Před 13 dny +1

    Marc and Ben-
    I think we have to be careful calling asking LLM models "learning" when we query them.
    Learning involes understanding underlying mechanism, context and more.
    In that sense, we are more "memorizing" rather than learning.
    As builders, we have to have human in the loop experience embedded in the process so we can actually learn from these models 😊

    • @ChrisAthanas
      @ChrisAthanas Před 13 dny +2

      They are fully in the AI hype cycle and severely out of touch with the common man

  • @cyberft
    @cyberft Před 11 dny

    The solution you guys are discussing is called #rebasement.

  • @jaientenduunevoix726
    @jaientenduunevoix726 Před 13 dny +1

    Import the entire world, import the problems of the entire world

    • @ChrisAthanas
      @ChrisAthanas Před 13 dny +1

      All the squabbles now require your attention and taking of sides
      What KIND of American are you?
      Prepare for a violent and dumb decade

    • @jaythefox
      @jaythefox Před 13 dny

      Well if you just import people but don't improve any conditions in the host country, such as inequality and regulatory capture, yeah things will sort of decline and stagnate, but surely the smarter move is to import the world *and* improve country, thus gaining the benefits of both.
      But if Americans won't take immigrants, certain other countries will (one with a Kangaroos, another with maple leaves), so you'll just miss out on lots of skilled and/or ambitious people.

  • @kcorreia86
    @kcorreia86 Před 13 dny +1

    A lot has been written about the price changes over the last 2 decades. A nuanced view that I heard in Capital in the 21st Century is that deflationary prices come from importing goods manufactured by cheap labour (TVs) and this cannot be done with services (childcare).
    Maybe there is a company in stealth mode creating Phillipino nanny as a service on iPads supervising a room full of toddlers that will break this graph.

    • @ChrisAthanas
      @ChrisAthanas Před 13 dny +3

      I’m sure they will all be very well adjusted humans
      Lol

    • @jaythefox
      @jaythefox Před 13 dny

      TVs and tech gadget's aren't that important in the big scheme of things. Deflation was really about cheap energy (fracking) and mass-scale farming / agriculture. It's impressive how far we've come but surely we can do better with housing and services.
      A lot of non-childcare-related service jobs such as fast food and medical care could be automated, freeing up those people to work in childcare. A lot more work could be remote, freeing up parents to spend more time raising their kids, reducing demand on childcare services.
      Elon Musk's "dirt bricks" are a bit of a joke, but with some serious organised effort, I'm pretty sure production of housing and related services could be commoditised and automated. Solar and a bit of clever architecture could easily allow off-grid power, off-grid toilets and off-grid water harvesting from the atmosphere.
      My best guess as to why we don't have all the above is some combination of:
      1. Regulations prohibiting construction and innovation
      2. Capital tied up in an extremely tiny number of individuals who don't care about solving these problems
      3. Stagnant wages and high living costs forcing the bulk of the population to work such long and stressful hours that they don't have any leftover cognitive capacity to tinker on these projects themselves
      Point (3) may begin to be eroded as things like the FIRE movement and living in cheaper countries gain steam. Points (1) and (2) will be much more difficult and seem to have become calcified, probably only a major change in the voter demographic will budge them.

  • @bobbycosmic
    @bobbycosmic Před 13 dny +3

    Im so afraid... i need help... my whole generation needs help :[

    • @eric.aaron.castro
      @eric.aaron.castro Před 13 dny +7

      Be a law onto yourself. Don’t depend on the philosophy of others to guide you. “I am a law only for my kind. I am no law for all.” - Thus Spoke Zarathustra

    • @bobbycosmic
      @bobbycosmic Před 13 dny +1

      ​@@eric.aaron.castro thank you for nietzsche in these trying times ❤

    • @eric.aaron.castro
      @eric.aaron.castro Před 13 dny

      @@bobbycosmic of course. I used to listen religiously to Marc Andreessen some years ago. However, over time, I started to fade away from the business gurus and develop my own value judgement system. Also, when I started to see Marc grifting for the scammy crypto and Web 3.0 as well as being a fan boy for the con-man, Elon Musk… it sealed the nail in the coffin to go my own way.

    • @ChrisAthanas
      @ChrisAthanas Před 13 dny +1

      They will gain a spine through the coming hard harsh events that will strengthen or destroy
      The soft days of America are closing fast

    • @MrTerrorFace
      @MrTerrorFace Před 9 dny

      Read some sacred and holy texts.

  • @zaharizahariev
    @zaharizahariev Před 11 dny

    Well in Martha's Vineyard they practice cousins marriage like there’s no tomorrow. If the elites do it Surely it has to be good for the poor and oppressed precariat.

  • @TheEtrepreneur
    @TheEtrepreneur Před 13 dny +1

    I reeeeeeealy like the fact that you two took the podcasting driving wheel after so many years of "delegating" (not hating at all to previous hosts, it's just the nature of intellect + entrepreneurship). Come on now!
    Regarding the Catholic faith: 1. Was instructed by God on Peter as the first pope, 2. The fact that men deviate with particulars doesn't touch the Central faith (not changing even a comma), 3. Sub branches of Protestantism surpasses 1000+ denominations, proving fallible for a human intellect to judge upon "branching". 4. This is just a test of Faith, thank you God Almighty for this luck of lucidity.

  • @ChrisAthanas
    @ChrisAthanas Před 13 dny +3

    The ai push is all sci fi and these two dolts are fully out of ideas

  • @BakedBotAI
    @BakedBotAI Před 13 dny +2

    We need to rethink how we fund education. The government has been a complete failure on this.
    Business could help subsidize attendance at these tech enabled, AI schools. In that way, the market could regulate payments and be a check on costs rising in private education.

    • @brandonreed09
      @brandonreed09 Před 13 dny +2

      I could see possibly a freemium model being used.

    • @ChrisAthanas
      @ChrisAthanas Před 13 dny +2

      Or maybe it’s been a total success
      Most people want to be employees
      That’s the purpose of public education
      Keep out the competition

    • @marioarguello6989
      @marioarguello6989 Před 13 dny

      The GubMent has NOT been a failure at education, they have accomplished EXACTLY what they aimed to accomplish.

  • @whatifgodimagineinfinity5526

    I am the first person here which is of zero relevance

  • @AIOperationsCenter
    @AIOperationsCenter Před 13 dny

    Hey Marc and Ben I love this podcast. I heard of A16z about a year ago when I decided to found my company as a solo preneur. The first time I heard Marc thoughts was on the Huberman podcast in September on innovators. It really resonated with me because I'm that guy. I got a challange for you. Let's make the American Dream a Reality I will dedicate the next decade to develop this company and you guys can drive. I have a great concept, brand and the technical skill to boot. I was recently was accepted into an accelerator program to offset my cloud costs.

  • @kilosierraalpha
    @kilosierraalpha Před 13 dny +4

    New American dream is to make enough money so you can afford to leave America.

  • @user-wy2on5py7d
    @user-wy2on5py7d Před 10 dny

    in judaism did god promise israel to the jews on may 14th 1948, because thats when they became a state lol. always confused when people say things like that? make it make sense?

  • @dh6037
    @dh6037 Před 9 dny

    "God, Family, Work".....but what if God doesn't exist?
    p.s - God didn't "give "Jews" ANYTHING. W as a living organism have earth as our home. That is what we have been given. Nobody is pre-ordained to get a specific part of that, no matter what someone wrote in a book a few thousand years ago.

  • @Velakowitz
    @Velakowitz Před 12 dny

    Also, I think you guys have a misunderstanding of the reformation. Very low IQ understanding of what happened. The reformation destroyed Europe. It was a revolutionary act.
    The American revolution was actually reactionary, not revolutionary.

  • @andreas.9175
    @andreas.9175 Před 13 dny +2

    🫡

  • @ChrisAthanas
    @ChrisAthanas Před 13 dny +1

    56:57 how does Z propose that this work effort will return when all answers will come from ai and housing and food is free?
    lol
    So much ZIRP foolery

  • @Velakowitz
    @Velakowitz Před 12 dny +1

    America is a Christian, more specifically Protestant country.
    This is the cultural ethos, even for non believers in this country. This is the moral / values background.
    I won’t deny though that America is rapidly transforming into a post Christian country. For worse in my opinion.

    • @MrTerrorFace
      @MrTerrorFace Před 9 dny

      I would disagree. Gen Z is actually open minded to spirituality and religion compared to other generations. Look up Ryan Burge and the Graphs about Religion.

    • @Velakowitz
      @Velakowitz Před 9 dny +1

      @@MrTerrorFace Still Post-Christian, I knew Atheism would not survive.

  • @zoellazayce6796
    @zoellazayce6796 Před 13 dny +1

    Hey a16z, I'm raising funds for a pre-seed for a Reality-to-3D streaming startup, focusing on Apple Vision Pro. Let me know you are interested.

    • @satioOeinas
      @satioOeinas Před 13 dny +1

      What is the function of the product?

    • @ChrisAthanas
      @ChrisAthanas Před 13 dny +1

      The function is to raise money and exit

  • @firstlast8258
    @firstlast8258 Před 13 dny +24

    Its called the American dream because you would have to be asleep to believe it

    • @ChrisAthanas
      @ChrisAthanas Před 13 dny +1

      It died in 1933

    • @quantumpotential7639
      @quantumpotential7639 Před 13 dny

      Belief in yourself is gold. Belief in an exterior construct lead.

    • @buckyzona
      @buckyzona Před 12 dny +3

      @@ChrisAthanasskill issue. American dream is not dead, it’s just harder. Don’t impose your limitations on me or others. Plenty of people still choose the US to immigrate to when looking for opportunity.

    • @rameshpudhucode6862
      @rameshpudhucode6862 Před 12 dny

      What made you to come to America?

    • @XShollaj
      @XShollaj Před 12 dny +1

      Still better than everywhere else

  • @santoshgaikwad7900
    @santoshgaikwad7900 Před 12 dny

    There are scammer in name of a16z