Some Differences Between a Real Trijicon ACOG and a Chinese Fake.
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The people who thumbs down this just realized they highly overpaid for a fake ACOG
Nah, there's just a little group of fucksticks and hanger dodgers that follow my shit and downvote every video because they can't get women to have sex with them....It's not a big deal, they still give me algorithmic preference with downvotes...
@@MikeB128 Every channel has them.
@@MikeB128 hangar dodgers... im fucking weak!!!🤣🤣🤣
Dummies, down votes are still votes. Plus half of them watch the video to the end to take as many shots as possible at him. Some of them are his biggest fans even if they don’t know it.
@@nulnul6633 simp
I went to a gun show last weekend and there wasnt a single genuine acog there. They had hundreds of knock offs of all different kinds of trijicon products but no real ones. One lady got mad and yelled at me because she heard me mumbling in disappointment to myself, and told me to get away from her booth.
The same thing happens in the car community with wheels all the time.
You could've reported them for selling fakes. It's illegal as shit
@@Lukyan So is selling fake watches. No one will do shit
Yeah I had a guy get mad at me for pointing out fakes at a gun show I said I paid money, I’m not in your booth and if you’re ripping people off they have a right to know. Security got involved because he was yelling loudly, I pointed out I was a vet and law enforcement and wouldn’t you know it they told him to stop being loud and to let it go “he’s allowed to comment as long as he isn’t breaking you stuff” yep fuck you buddy
They Probably Know. ;)
Chinese con artist watching this: *Chinese copycats furiously taking notes on things to add/upgrade for there fakes*
I actually bought a fake acog (on purpose; doesn't even say Trigicon) and the tritium piece was actually pinned and not glued, unlike this one, and the adjustment knobs could be turned by hand without a coin, so I guess they're getting better. (In case anyone is curious, I bought it as somewhat of a place holder; I'm not going to pay to put $1k+ optics on all of my guns bc there's no point, so I figured I'd put a cheap optic on that I could at least shoot with, and if I planned on using it for anything other than the range (competition, hunting, etc.) I'd put a good optic on).
Michael B i remember reading that if you buy a gun spend twice on the glass
@@duhubs That's fairly accurate.
Michael B yes some replicas are so spot on you literally can’t really tell the difference. But they’re not common so...
@@duhubs Or alternatively, use that money on training and ammo and get really good on iron sights. And once your a range commando, buy an expensive optic. However, if you are using your weapon for professional applications then ALWAYS buy the best equipment available.
"Tririum" .....AAAAH LOL! that made my day. a good way to spot fakes is the metal, cheap imitation scopes/sights are usually made from shiny pot-metal and the finish will have lots of glare. the real ones generally have a more dull finish with very low glare.
Ya the fake ones usually sell for 80$ lol they do work surprisingly well for a knockoff
Good enough for airsoft.
@@Matt_The_Hugenot "gEt tHe ReAl ThInG fOr AiRsOfT"
Satori Komeiji get the real thing if you can afford it. It’s nice having stuff you know won’t fail in the rain mud and shit of an airsoft battlefield. Plus the amount of time Iv had flashbangs go off in the room with me and Iv stumbled into the wall rifle first is hilarious.
Ive use one on my sks and its banged thro some 5000 rnds with no problems been treated like dirt for a cheap optic less than 100$ its performed just as well as my more expensive brand name stuff
ARGOS CENTURIAN don’t bubba the sks
“A real genuine fake” - mike b 2020
Is that like full semi automatic?
With the shoulder thing that goes up?
miKE wilL GET iT DoNe
hi iM MIkE BLooMBErg aND i SUPPORt THis mesSAGe
Thanks for the instructions, you saved me from buying a fake one
Glad to have helped.
The Trijicon ACOG is one of the finest combat optics ever produced.
Yes it is a very advanced combat optical gunsight
Marines still found a way to break the darn thing.
@@manupontheprecipice6254 Yeah, we DO, don't we....🤣
Why are you guys paying for them? Just go into the company armory and get one. Theres a bunch of them and they're free!
S4 wants to know your location
Graham Lopez e4 mafia wants to know your location
Did someone say lockdown
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@Hi There LMAO
we all make mistakes in the heat of passion jimbo
I can't afford an ACOG, they cost more than any of my guns.
Save up. Not hard.
William Johnson It could be, you never know other’s situations.
“700 dollar ACOG vs 100 dollar ACOG”
More like "1100 Dollar ACOG Vs 80 Dollar ACOG"...................
@@MikeB128 For that money you can buy 10 of the cheap ones maybe one of them will work ok.
@@shawnr771 Yeah I'd rather have the real one. Built way better, parallax is non existent, and they have a lifetime warranty.....You get what you pay for..
@@MikeB128 I understand the optics but I have always been a fan of iron sights.
Me and scopes have a bad history.
Pajamapants Jack lol see u everywhere
Thanks for the heads up.
Spot on. Only thing to add is when I was active the RCOs we used had the coin slot (similar to the knock off, but noticeably different) zero adjustment. We used casing after firing the first string to get our BZO.
Excellent vid and coverage on the identifying features of genuine vs fake, Mike. And don’t be ashamed that you got took. We’ve all been there. At least you’re allowed to return it.
beginning to become one of my favorite channels aha
Next update: Mike B coming at us from a Coronavirus quarantine facility 😆
MrSniperdude01 yes
Solid review, one super small caveat: the bases can be removed and rotated for user preferences of clamping side. Besides that little detail, great write up.
Last fall I built two clone rifles, MK18 and M4A1 FSP SOPMOD Block II. I've heard these fakes were out there and made damn sure I got a real one. But thank you so much for admitting and showing your mistake to us, much respect, and I hope you saved someone, or many from repeating this same mistake. What a great video and thanks again. Peace!
I realised that the fiber light was too much for the day, the tape on the fiber helped alot. We had to use either a tool, or a casing to adjust wind/eleva. It would loose zero sometimes.
They both are actually different then the ones I used in the Marine Corp especially the adjustment dials. They actually looked like the ones on the fake, we used shell casings to make the adjustments. Maybe we just got the old broke ones. I like being able to turn it with your hand like that one.
keyon amado they just upgraded them I have the ones you can turn with your hand
you might have been issued a really old one
Thanks for the good info. Too easy to be ripped off now days. Awesome video. You might have saved us a lot of money.
Thank you
Don't own any scopes for my AR but thanks for making a vid on this so now I know how to spot a real Acog and not get scammed.
Great video and timing!!! I have recently been thinking of buying a Trijicon ACOG for sometime. But it hurts me to pay for the real and full price of the real Trijicon ACOG. I do miss using that rifle scope/sight since I got out of the USMC. Still wandering if I could use a fake one for a while just for range purposes while saving up.
Might take a look at the Primary Arms Cyclops. It ain't an ACOG but it comes pretty close and costs way less.
Joshua Rooker you could always get like a Sig Sauer Romeo 5, they’re an incredible optic and you can find them for around $100. It’ll definitely hold you over until you can get the acog you want and it’s only like $20 more than a junk acog from wish
Man shame Trinity Force doesn't make it anymore but if you can find one look for the Trinity Force Titan 4x. It's no ACOG and there's no tritium night sights but its cheap and it works for the price.
Joshua Rooker just keep saving, buy once cry once.
Very useful video. Made the mistake before and after one round being fired it broke. Ebay got me once but Wish won't get me a second time!
I had a knockoff on my M&P 15-22, worked well for what i was doing with it as a plinking gun
The biggest give away to tell the difference between real and fake is the eye relief and infinity when viewing. It should be clear in the scope and foreground outside of the scope view to be real. Usually the fakes will have either the scope magnification blurred or the foreground. Use both eyes open to see the difference while viewing.
certainly one of the best on CZcams.in my top 5
I love my genuine TA-31F. I've had it 9 years and the "Tririum" still burns bright. Lol
I have learned from gun shows that people try to pass off air soft quality stuff as the real deal. Hard to tell but most of the time if the price is to good to be true, it probably is.
The Surefire x300 is like this. I've got a real one and a fake one. Some fakes come out and say they are fake but some pretend they are legit. I think it comes Down to the old saying, "If it sounds too good to be true it's probably a quacking duck." I've got to admit that my fake X300 isn't half bad.
Not all are. I got a fairly decent red dot off eBay. Only paid $10.
You can switch the dot to green by reversing the turn dial.
Not saying it's super accurate, but works great for backyard plinking & freaking out the neighbors 😆
That's like my fake Inforce APLc. Shockingly works and survived alot of abuse. Makes you wonder.
I had an acog on my M4. Dropped it off the back of the Stryker, it landed on the scope. I thought I would need to be rezeroed. Nope held zero and was scuffed but none worse for wear.
That’s the dif between a real one and the knockoff.
The knockoff loses zero sitting in the safe lol
@Good-riddance-PROPAGANDAtube just like a real eotech!
Fancy that, I just picked up an ACOG, from my local pawn shop, in a southeastern state LOL however, I could tell it was real as soon as the proprietor of said pawn shop set it on the counter. I could hear that it was Rock Solid as soon as it made contact with the counter. The lettering is raised as shown in this video. it had definitely seen better days and was pretty rough but I could see all the serial numbers and forging marks as plain as day, and for three hundred bucks, I had to say yes. It's the older model Ta01, which I thought was perfect for my dad's old Bushmaster A1 style xm15.
A question about the tritium (and yes it's spelled correctly) in these scopes. I've heard they can be re-lamped, and if the tritium fails Trijicon's brightness test they can have internals replaced for free, however if it passes the brightness test it will be around $550. Has anyone reading this had their Trijicon re-lamped or other internals replaced? I can't detect any glow from this particular scope, I'd love to have it freshened up but that certainly would sting to find out that I need to drop another 550 on this thing. A few more bucks in total and I could pick up a brand new one.
Some acogs require a tool for adjustment. Just as a point of reference, so someone doesn’t base their assessment solely on that criteria.
For this model, which I said in the video, tools are not required...
Mike B yeah, just putting out more info for whoever happens to read it.
Burnn
I felt an alden joke coming on at about the 10 minute mark but you caught yourself. :P Good video!
Wait until tomorrow bby...
Fuck, just found out I do have a fake ACOG. TBH it actually works really good and I dont think real one is better than this one. I've been using it for like a year and it work just as new.
Use a real one, and you'll notice the difference immediately.
learn something new everyday, thanks Mike.
The fake one has a quick detach base. You can take that off and it will look much closer.
There are tons of these fakes on rifles in Syria, I get the feeling they treat them as disposable.
Will Mike ever move out of his mom's basement so he has space to bust more myths?
Can confirm, the knockoffs do hold zero. I bought one off of wish because I can't afford a real one in my current situation. Got mine for about 100
Just to add all the acogs ive seen in the marines, need to be adjusted with tool/shell. but im sure they are all older scopes.
You helped me save my buddy buying a knockoff for 850$ at an El Paso gun show. Thanks mike👌🏻
that said, terminus optics are 75 bucks and are amazing as an optic as far as i know
If you are purchasing through Amazon, beware. I purchased a Trijicon RM06 RMR and a genuine box and kit arrived with a fake RMR inside. What some shitbags do is purchase a legit optic from Amazon and return it but with a fake/airsoft optic inside, keeping the optic as a free score. They’re straight up stealing them. They think it’s a victimless crime but an Amazon employee who doesn’t know the difference just checks to see if the turns on and has all components and throws it back into circulation. It’s a pain in the ass.
If you’re going to spend the money, do the research on genuine products and airsoft toys. I also recommend going through certified vendors and online stores.
When I purchased my 1.5-6x Elcan Spectre DR from Scope-List, a real knowledgable rep called me with assurance and insurance on the purchase, this was in 2016 but it was a great experience with them.
If you aren’t sure about an online purchase, ask for a photo of the serial number next to a post-it with your username or date. You can call Trijicon and they’ll tell you within 30 seconds whether it’s legit or not. Cheers.
i sure do love my tririum glock night sights!
Can you do one on the M145 Elcan’s?
I want one for my FN15A4 but see so many where the price ranges from $500 to $1200
I don't have one..........They're huge and heavy for the AR.
Sorry about your situation, that’s cool that eBay will make it right though.
I bought one of the fakes for like 55 euro and I was happy with the quality for the price. it's not real, but perfect for my airsoft rifle or just like an air rifle. If you want to replicate an M16a4 using an airsoft M16, then yeah these work great. Not sure for how long they would really hold zero on a real AR-15 though.
Frankpolly airsoft is for pussys with no real guns
@@dick-parker He said he paid in euros, therefore we can assume he had his penis removed by the government upon birth and isn't allowed to own guns.
You guys are kind of annoying. I'd like to see you guys shoot your friends with your "superior for playing games " real guns. I own an ar-15. And airsoft. Airsoft is pretty fun too
I don’t have to watch the video to know but I’m going to watch it anyways for your witty banter while I scroll the comments section looking for all the but their people with their jimmies rustled
I was told the RCO A4 is used with M193
I got one when Gander Mountain went out of biz. Ok price. Wonder how much it costs to produce the real acog. Big mark up maybe. Acog is a very nice scope.
I am sorry but they are overpriced my man but I'm on that viewpoint of scopes shouldn't even cost no more than 500. But thank you for the info on spotting a fake one compare to a real one.
"Shouldn't even cost no more than 500". Yeah, I don't think you have the mental capacity to be commenting on price-points of quality optics....
@SHOTRED555 You need to look at some fucking Leupold Scopes then if you think that an ACOG is pricey
Two Tones luckily my dads rem 700 he gave to me already had a Leupold scope, glad I didn’t have to buy one
They dont all come with turret retainers, thats more of an RCO specific thing. They break pretty easy tho so its not hard to find a real one missing the wire retainers. As far as the fiberoptic i have had a fake in my hands that had a pin holding it in, but the silicone skin over the cord was much more clear. Also the mounts on fakes only lock onto one t-mark so theyre weaver compatible. Real ones wont fit a weaver out of the box. That is an easy fix tho, eBay have knock off Arms throw lever mounts for $20 or Amazon has a "Sniper" 25mm scope mount for $13 that uses a TA51 mount and locks onto two t-marks. Some have letters, some dont, some use different brand names and dont claim tritium (tririum lol). Thats what happens when high end optic companies dont renew their trademark rights claim ;'-D
I paid ~$120 for a Trinity Force acog-type magnified optic. I wasn't going to use it for anything more than airsoft but damn, that little TF was pretty nice and I put it on an little plinking AR. Yea you don't have a nice tritium night sight or illuminated dot but the quality was decent, it held a zero and did a good job for seated range plinking.
If you want an ACOG and aren't gonna be using it in a shitty combat situation then honestly, get a cheap Trinity Force or a less expensive 4x optic... Dont drop 2k on something that's gonna go on a rifle that disappears into a safe for most of the year, it's just not worth it.
Happens to the best of us.
Good thing that we can at least trust iron sights...
Awesome! Can you do the same to an EoTech? If you have one?
I don't have a fake Eotech. Maybe someday...
Great Vid Mike B., I was considering a knock off ACOG or EOtech. A true ACOG will cost more than my rifle. If you could track down an Ebay knock off EOtech and submit a video on your thoughts. If these knock offs do 50% of the real thing at a 1/10th the price, I kinda say it's worth it for a budget AR or AK..
Aaand gotta throw it out there, purchased a Barska 1x4 30mm red/green reticule scope for a little over a bill. This thing was worth every penny for a plinking AR. Even talked another coworker into buying one as well.
Cool little fun fact. I'm not sure when it started or when it ended, but a lot of the older ACOG Scopes had Bible references on them. I do believe near the bottom of the mount
They have it now under the info and logo. It's just the name of the verse, and not the actual verse itself. Look at mine.
@@MikeB128 cool to know. I thought they stopped it completely because of the backlash it was getting
The fake one seems to be good for range shooting and maybe Airsoft.
I feel the seller knew what he was selling
64maxpower no shit
@@hazardous458 😂 😂 😂
Have a $60 VLIFE scope, tried to mount it on an SKS and it almost fell off the 3rd shot and the shot placement was more than a foot off of where the reticle was, and for some fucking reason theres a laser pointer in the side of the scope.
TY 4 making folk's aware lotsa fake crap out thier. Also rail is EZ way 2 ID them!
Infantryman here..... never remembered if it actually worked at night.... humm?
Someone gave me one of these things, w/ the caveat (might be a Chinese fake...) Is it worth keeping??
Never heard of trijicon. And immediately noticed the fake
You get one of those Sabre Defense parts kits too?
No. Video about that will be tomorrow. Went with the FN. Explained in the vid why.
@@MikeB128 I need to check out your videos, and see what you are cloning. If you are in NC you should come to kalash bash coming up soon.
Too bad I didn’t know if the serial number was on top instead of on the side SMH 🤦♂️
Ty
What about that insane gap between optic and main body ? Moisture will get inside trough there
Getting drunk on EBay. The bain of my life!
You would make a great USEC Voice actor for Escape From Tarkov.
Tell the devs that. Maybe I can get my money back in exchange for some voice-over, as that game is goddamned impossible for a n00b to play and I rage-quit after getting one-shot sniped from across the map 3 fucking times in a row on my first 3 matches.
"Contains tririum..." 😂
Anybody who has ever served knows the difference
ACSS ACOG is the bees knees
Does the replica use radioactive material?
Considering it's expensive...Probably not..
Believe it or not I own the fake acog mike just showed us in this video and I have it mounted on my airsoft replica ahah.
But to be honest if you don't want to spend + 1000 euros (geez, it cost more than a real steal gun, why these sights are such expensive?) on a real acog sight (since if you are searching one you are surely not gonna be deployed in warzones) I suggest it.
I personally paid it 139 euros for it here in italy (but that's because I went to a store and well...I assume everyone knows buying things in "real" store is much more expensive than buying things in online stores), and it woks perfectly.
It's resistent because the whole structure is made out of metal (even if it's way more heavier just like Mike said), and has very nice lens (it works really well in very bright locations too), but unfortunately (as advertaised) it won't work in the absence of a source of light (it's powered by fiber optic so you won't need a battery in order to use it tho).
Conclusion:
If you don't want to spend a lot of money and want a 4x optic I would consider looking into it (if for you, aestethic autenticity and a heavier weight aren't a problem)
P.S.
There's written "tririum" on mine as well, lmao I laughed so hard when Mike made me notice it ahahah
I'll use a kuhnife
Honestly because I can't have real guns anyway and play Airsoft the 80$ or in Germany 100-120€ ones are perfectly fine. But I searched for one that has the "realistic" markings like the qr code.
You can have real guns in Germany.
@@chrisbrent7487 I know but I can't at the moment even though I nailed the theoretical and practical exam.
@@itzztim6987 12 months waiting period for competitive shooter's license? Get the hunting permit and buy as many long guns in as short amount of time as you want (or can afford). No waiting period, no minimum amount of training sessions, 2/6 rule or any bullshit like that. And all the nice stuff which is banned for competitive shooting like semi-auto AKs or MP5s as well ;)
The field of view is a lot less on the fakes
Thx for the vid!
Ya know it's important not to buy Acogs with coronavirus.
Why are the sights more expensive than the weapon
Welcome to the world of rifles. Where people buy a $1000-1500 bolt action but put a $2500 scope on it.
Quality optics and lenses are very expensive and hard to make. If you think scopes are expensive, you should see how much cinema camera lenses cost. Some of them are TENS of thousands of dollars. ARRI prime lenses can be easily 50 grand.
You just saved me $500!!! Lol
I paid $50 for the fake one, works fine for airsoft
You got triji-conned out of a couple hundred bucks. *not 80 bucks
I think you missed the entire point... I paid way more than $80 for an $80 optic................
@@MikeB128 oh I see, I thought you paid 80 bucks for that optic due to one of your other comments.
“Tririum” is just how the Chinese say tritium 🤣
I think you get what you pay for but I don't think the sum of the parts and the labor to build+profit is equivalent to the cost. Trijicon has been around for ever and they make huge amounts of product. the cost of machines and R&D has been paid off for a while which should result in drop in cost.
Seeing how you can purchase after market aluminum heads for an engine that weigh 50 lbs plus they had CNC machining for around 500-800 each, the cost of making the body is close to zero. The glass and reticle can't make up the other $500-800 in price.
Agreed, but the price hasn't really come down in 15+ years, so I waited long enough. Been eyeballing these for about 10 years, waiting for the price to drop. It is what it is.
@@MikeB128 they are good. I will eventually buy one.
I was just making the case that they should be cheaper.
Maybe only $100 or so less.
Looks like jäger is getting desperate
So how you get the real acog ??
Opticsplanet.
So wait, why didn't he take the tape off of the fiber optic
Uh, because it was fake and I had to return it exactly how I received it. Pay attention to videos and you'll have to ask less questions :)
$30 nerf gun + $800 eotech = Infinite death
Ok didn’t even know there were Chinese rip-offs of an ACOG xD
Acorg
Cool now I know how to get a fake ACOG to flex on my tacticool frens
Don't know if you're trying to make some snide remark towards me, but I figured I'd make a video because I fucked up and don't want others to do the same...Not a "Flex"....
Chinese knockoff Leopold scopes are being sold on eBay at this very moment.
Don’t buy sights on amazon, I ended up buying my Vortex Spitfire at a store for $60 off and it’s genuine while a lot of people complained about it being used and a Chinese knock off when they bought it from amazon
I got my real ACOG from Opticsplanet. Really good and reputable place.
Contains Cheerios? So it's an optic and a Breakfast Cereal 🤔?!
The fake comes with a corona.
It's the "cheaper" Tritium lol
Bosg acog