Loving this is interview! As interesting and as informative as any Ken Burns documentary I've ever watched. I've been listening while Googling key terms used during the interview. Lloyd has researched this topic and his information is spot on. Good job, both of you!
I cant believe I missed this interview I love you john and I love Lloyd Evan's my family was half jehovah's witness and my dads family was regular Christian's sorry not sorry if it wasn't for my dad I would have probably been a jehovah's witness I'm glad I listed to my dad it's been close to 2 years since I lost my dad I wish I could tell him how right he was and I will say he was 100 percent right on Jws the #1 in cults #2 is definitely Mormonism
Nice to see you getting to people from similar groups. Can I suggest a few people to interview? Can you interview Rob Schenck and the Judaism Unbound podcast team?
The story about Lloyd objecting to coloring on a Christmas project because of his religious beliefs and having the teacher make an example of him hit hime for me. I was raised in the Church of Christ, and I had a similar experience over my religious objection to dancing at a young age.
@ 42:39 Mr Evans makes a good point about an authoritative watchtower book being theologically inconsistent in 1999. This was due,my research shows,to the fact that watchtower writers of the 1990s and beyond were grappling with the difficult task of interpreting watchtower theology after the passing of a certain individual,who more than others,was the 'mind' behind watchtower theology. This was so because from the 1940s to the 1990s Watchtower theology was largely the product of one mind. The mind of Frederick Franz. Franz was a man so central to the theology of the JW that among his peers at the upper echelon of the watchtower society he was known as 'the oracle'. Franz died in 1992.
About experiencing Armageddon … there were graphic pictures and a book about how Armageddon would look. I didn’t realize the impact until a therapist suggested that although I didn’t believe in a physical resurrection, the Armageddon was taking place internally. It made so much sense.
When I was in my early 20’s and my kids were little I was looking for a religion for us. I talked to Mormons. I thought wait they wrote there own book this isn’t the Bible. Then I let the Jw’s in we had a great conversation but it wasn’t In line with my belief that god loves everyone regardless. He created us all therefore he loves us all. Then my sisters sister in law invited to her church it freaked me out! People would go to the alter be touched then “pass out”! Never went back. Then the Catholic Church. I went to the classes got baptized. As I went more questions than answers. It just wasn’t sitting right inside. I decided to give up on it. I thank god i didn’t end up in a high demand religion. It so easily could have happened.
Wow! JWs are allowed to kiss in the UK?? Here in Québec it's a big no-no! You'd definitely at least be put under restrictions if elders found out you're kissing someone before marriage. So technically a couple's first kiss is the kiss they exchange during their wedding ceremony. I always felt it didn't make sense, but they'd talk about these rules very often at meetings here.
God talked to me because i turned down BYU that i had applied for. And he has been talking ever since non-stop. NO where does the bibles expression to confess your sins to one another means to confess them to those uninvolved. It means confess to those you sin against.
Elders meet with you for Causing Divisions? Verse 11= My brothers and sisters, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. 12 What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas”; still another, “I follow Christ” said 1st to Corinthians at 1:11-17. Would the WatchTower disfellowship Chloe’s house for causing divisions?
I adore Lloyd, thanks for having him.
Loving this is interview!
As interesting and as informative as any Ken Burns documentary I've ever watched.
I've been listening while Googling key terms used during the interview. Lloyd has researched this topic and his information is spot on.
Good job, both of you!
I cant believe I missed this interview I love you john and I love Lloyd Evan's my family was half jehovah's witness and my dads family was regular Christian's sorry not sorry if it wasn't for my dad I would have probably been a jehovah's witness I'm glad I listed to my dad it's been close to 2 years since I lost my dad I wish I could tell him how right he was and I will say he was 100 percent right on Jws the #1 in cults #2 is definitely Mormonism
Nice to see you getting to people from similar groups. Can I suggest a few people to interview? Can you interview Rob Schenck and the Judaism Unbound podcast team?
No don't get a jew haha they dodgy .. why not get a muslim haha yea you wouldn't.
The story about Lloyd objecting to coloring on a Christmas project because of his religious beliefs and having the teacher make an example of him hit hime for me. I was raised in the Church of Christ, and I had a similar experience over my religious objection to dancing at a young age.
@ 42:39 Mr Evans makes a good point about an authoritative watchtower book being theologically inconsistent in 1999. This was due,my research shows,to the fact that watchtower writers of the 1990s and beyond were grappling with the difficult task of interpreting watchtower theology after the passing of a certain individual,who more than others,was the 'mind' behind watchtower theology.
This was so because from the 1940s to the 1990s Watchtower theology was largely the product of one mind. The mind of Frederick Franz. Franz was a man so central to the theology of the JW that among his peers at the upper echelon of the watchtower society he was known as 'the oracle'. Franz died in 1992.
About experiencing Armageddon … there were graphic pictures and a book about how Armageddon would look. I didn’t realize the impact until a therapist suggested that although I didn’t believe in a physical resurrection, the Armageddon was taking place internally. It made so much sense.
Great podcast, thank both of you!
When I was in my early 20’s and my kids were little I was looking for a religion for us. I talked to Mormons. I thought wait they wrote there own book this isn’t the Bible. Then I let the Jw’s in we had a great conversation but it wasn’t In line with my belief that god loves everyone regardless. He created us all therefore he loves us all. Then my sisters sister in law invited to her church it freaked me out! People would go to the alter be touched then “pass out”! Never went back. Then the Catholic Church. I went to the classes got baptized. As I went more questions than answers. It just wasn’t sitting right inside. I decided to give up on it. I thank god i didn’t end up in a high demand religion. It so easily could have happened.
I knew Lloyd was referring the CES Letter.
Wow! JWs are allowed to kiss in the UK?? Here in Québec it's a big no-no! You'd definitely at least be put under restrictions if elders found out you're kissing someone before marriage. So technically a couple's first kiss is the kiss they exchange during their wedding ceremony. I always felt it didn't make sense, but they'd talk about these rules very often at meetings here.
I wish someone would of raised there hand and been like .. sister I know a good brother...for you
I would love to do a Mormon stories episode. It would be nice getting to voice my story...
My secret my jw mom was acting narcissistic..I got baptized a Mormon but raisesd jw...and had five bible teachers who can't get baptized...love is key
That brother was stupid having his own opinion on grounds for devorse
..come on man on man is not ok
Sisters not looking out for other sisters
Atheist do things not because it is left but because it is right.
God talked to me because i turned down BYU that i had applied for. And he has been talking ever since non-stop. NO where does the bibles expression to confess your sins to one another means to confess them to those uninvolved. It means confess to those you sin against.
Good men marry ugly women..bad men marry beautiful women..
Elders meet with you for Causing Divisions? Verse 11= My brothers and sisters, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. 12 What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas”; still another, “I follow Christ” said 1st to Corinthians at 1:11-17. Would the WatchTower disfellowship Chloe’s house for causing divisions?
Born in 1979? he's a baby, my niece was born in 1975.
People in their 40s are babies?
I’m