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Eww, WNDODY has baby fundie voice, just like Mormons and other fundies! It's universal!

Sounds a lot like Scientology

Ooooh, please circulate a clip of the timestamp around 1:38 on social media! The desertion of family based on ritualistic fetishes is a great highlight from this. Thanks Randy!

I was on the internet at that time and had a friend send me a link to their website asking my opinion. Told him I thought that guy was nuts.

And is Ironic, that Joseph Smith, is in hell and Bruce R Mac, said that he was afraid to cross over to the other side because he and the church hadn't Been honest with the people

Love Randy!❤

Oh my gosh! More of this! I was in a few presidencies and this my experience entirely. I have / had so much love for the sisters and stayed in the church for so long because I was trying to change things in my own space. Ultimately the truth claims being false were the reason I lost any desire to participate. But I feel so much for the sisters still there who have no idea what the church actually is. Lots of love to these sisters for coming on here and to the whole Mormon Stories team. ❤

I do remember that issue. That was complete madness.

I will never forget one of their broadcasts. I was babysitting and flipping through channels. Stumbled across the broadcast. It was very weird. Two weeks later they were dead.

Boiled water, in tea and coffee, in the early 19th century is arguably more healthy at that time. Its arguably a step backwards for human health in that regard.

Back in 2005 when I went back to school to become a Civil Rights attorney, my bishop told me if I helped an LGBTQ+ couple adopt or find housing, I would be ex-communicated. That place is poison.

This sounds like the People’s Temple.

Thank you guys for making this episode. What a great description for measuring any type of organization. Thank you for remembering the families.

Jim Jones looked like a goober, too. lol. Like a bad Elvis/Wayne Newton impersonator.

Bring on the smaller and more insular and extreme. Let's have everyone see the institution for what it is. That would benefit informed consent.

Charismatics are not the only ones who project their own bad behavior onto others. That’s a common occurrence in society. Not only in the “charismatics.”

The reason my mission spurred my departure was because I met people who contradicted the narrative I’d always been taught that people without mormonism are miserable. The people I met on my mission were all far happier than I’d ever been! 😂

First off!! What a fascinating career!! This should be a fascinating watch. @Mormons Stories Podcast thank you always for such amazing content and message@

I have listened to you and i do understand*** really and i see your heart condition here. This is the way Religion has survived all these years andu see it also in the Morman faith Doctrins and Principles and it hurts your heart@@ i can feel your pain. What you have done as a b BISHOP WAS GOOD AND U PUT YOUR HEART INTO IT AND REFLECTED JESUS CHRIST. I have studyed the Religion and laws and honestly the Book of Morman is GODS EXPRESSION HERE ON ESRTH AND IT IS BASED BY HOLY SPIRIT. BUT WHAT U HAVE A OBJECTION TO IS WHAT MAN IS DOING AND OVERSTEPPING JESUS AND GOD ENFORCING MANS IDEAS AND THAUGHTS. BUT THIS IS BASICALLY GODS TRUE RELIGION. IF U LOOK TO MAN FOR SUPPORT U WILL BE DISAPPOINTED IN ALL RELIGIONS AND GOD SAYS@@ U WOULD COUNCEL ME. NO WE CANT TELL GOD BUT GOD DOES SEE AND THIS IS A WEEDING OUT OF THOSE WHO DONT FEEL GOD CAN TAKE CARE OF THIS PROBLEM WITH MEN. LOOK HOW BAD IT WAS FOR MOSES AND MANY PEOPLE THAT HAD JUST BEEN SAVED DIED. WHAT A SHAME THEY CHOOSE THIS ACTION. MOSES SAID THAT ONE MUST EXERCISE FAITH @@ AND WE DO TODAY BECAUSE OF THE TERRABLE CORRUPTION. WE MUST STAY FAITHFUL TELL THE END OF OUR LIFE OR THIS SYSTEM. IT HARD BUT WE MUST BE FAITHFUL AND TODAY THE CHURCH IS GODS TRUE CHURCH AND WE CANT LEAVE IT BUT STAY FAITHFUL TO GOD. LET THE CHURCH DEAL WITH YOUR PROBLEMS BUT STAY THERE AND BE FAITHFUL TO GOD. DONT LET MAN OR SATIN RUN U AWAY AND IF U STAND ALONE DONT WAVER. HELP THE CHURCH SEE AND UNDERSTAND AND BE FAITHFUL. WE ARE IN THE END OF TIME DONT GIVE UP AND HELP OTHERS OVERCOME AND BE STANDING AT THE IN. I AM NOT A MORMAN BECAUSE OF ANY MAN BUT I AM STAYING IN MY PEW TELL JESUS COMES AND TAKE ME HOME. MAN CAN DO WHATEVER RHEY WONT I DONT CARE I NOT IN THE CHURCH FOR THEM BUT FOR God the Father And i love him and Jesus Christ

You guys are both heroes - you’re stopping the insanity cycle in your own lives and this has trickled out to your families and all of your supporters in educating us - thank y’all for being awesome examples of critical thinking and curiosity. Best regards!

Jesus exists, dear sweet one. Do not let the false teachings of this religion to deceive you. The Holy Bible and history exists thousands of years before the fake prophet Joseph Smith came along. You’re precious, you are loved and you were created by a loving God. I pray you get to know him and all of your family and those leaving the church. It’s my prayer for my LDS family too. A personal relationship with the True Lord is so freeing and wonderful. ♥️🙏🏼

Agree John - it’s insidious and sneaky to sucks peoples’ lives dry over their lifetime and carrying it on through generations 😢

My mom said. Oh ya some bad people did that…. I stopped her there.

I felt this as a Young Women’s President. I was completely overwhelmed. I resigned from the calling and was chastised for leaving the calling. I was put into a RS presidency as Secretary and could NOT handle the blatant gossiping about members by the RS presidency. I had had a baby and was suffering severe postpartum depression. The RS Pres. pushed me so much , made me feel guilty for not able available, I finally resigned from that calling. It took me a year to recover and no one noticed or cared. I was isolated and forgotten; no home visits. I left the Mormon church and felt a tremendous amount of relief and freedom from all the psychological abuse and neglect. It’s been 20 years now and every once in a while I still feel a triggered emotion by the treatment I suffered in the Mormon church. They are mean, manipulative and heartless people.

NannyOggUK ​​Basho, lao tzu. buddha, Jesus, all have wonderful wisdom. But don't join any man-made religion, which they all are!!

Great job guys!! Secrets keep people sick!!!!

That speech at the end! As John Larsen is John Dehlin will become.

Should not a true church respect the words of God in the Bible, instead of bowing down to what is politically correct in the world.

Will you please add subtitles or a written transcript in the description? I'm having trouble understanding him on my device, and what he's saying I am certain is massively important. I am Mormon and am considering resigning so am binge watching all these videos and this one I especially want to hear, but his microphone is muffled and the background noise is causing my device to not transmit clearly. So I'd be most grateful if you'd please add subtitles or a written transcript. Please. Please. Thanks 😊

Sounds about right for the LDS church. Putting people in roles when they do not have the time or skills to adequately perform said role with zero training and zero help with other tasks and obligations, such as caring for children/families while their parent fulfills the duties of said role. My daughter was going to activity days with friends for a while, and the leaders couldn't even remember her name. As annoying as that was, I felt bad for the one woman who was heavily pregnant with other small children at home. Doing activity days required her to find a sitter or make arrangements with her husband. The other leader was a grandmother who had part-time custody of her grandchildren due to the parents having to work long hours. These women needed help, not another thing piled on their plates, and neither of them had any kind of trauma-informed training despite one of the girls in the group having severe autism and another coming from an abusive background. The girl with autism had really supportive and helpful parents who would often stay for the whole activity, but that doesn't necessarily negate the fact that the activity days leaders themselves did not have the training or resources needed to effectively manage the difficult dynamics of the different girls in the group. My child was abandoned by her biological father, so the family tree activity was.... less than ideal. But how can they approach it differently when church doctrines themselves promote nuclear families while condemning all others, and the church just throws these jobs at members with no training and no support? It's absolutely criminal the way the church exploits their members while simultaneously promoting the kinds of practices that create and perpetuate trauma and exclusion.

My Relief Society never had to assess my house and never checked my phones, lol. I am extremely grateful for the bishop store house. No matter where my husband and I lived, we received help from bishops. People cannot judge the whole church based on this one lady's experience.

"Where there is no counsel, the people fall; But in the multitude of counselors there is safety." Proverbs 11:14 Any time someone says not to seek other's opinions, that is a HUGE RED FLAG!!! I am still Mormon but have written my resignation letter. I am struggling please pray for me. I have spoken out against some ward behaviors, and am now going through the extreme psychological abuse of a formal shunning. Not sure what the shunning is supposed to accomplish, but if they are shunning me in hopes of me returning as a submissive woman, it has failed. Anyway can use prayers and any advice you can provide, bc I haven't sent the resignation letter yet. Im scared to leave I think. I really don't even understand what is happening right now. But I do know a couple folks in my ward are giving me Jodi Hildebrandt vibes. But am I misreading? There's serious red flags. Help please. thanks in advance

Exhausting. I'm out. Good luck.😁 PS: Touching to see the host so unsettled by the telling of a story that clearly goes against the inherent directness I appreciate him for. If it weren't such a warped, contradictory & fundamentally flawed story, I may have stuck with it to the end.

I know a guy leads a 'cult' just like this, his closest followers change their apoearance, give up family, don't engage in sex. His name is the Dalai Lama.

A double-minded man is unstable in all his ways - James 1:8 I think this is exactly what we now call "an unauthentic life." Cognitive dissonance, etc etc I am going through this right now. I am in the Mormon church and am finding I believe very little it teaches. Yet I am faking it and she is right, eventually there will be a breaking point. I am at that point.

Heartbreaking. I just want to give her whole family a hug and get them away from this monster. So harrowing.

So creepy that he doesn't blink

Mansion would be an interesting BNB!

My daughter got engaged in Paris to a Scotsman and will be moving there by the end of the year! And when the babies start to come, we will be moving there tooooo!! Congrats!

“Look at the Church as a business” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 DAMMIT 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Cause you can't fool all of the people all of the time

Religions have been teaching people unbelievable crap for thousands of years. It's 2024. Let's move on from these man made cults that control so many.

This is one the most honest, real, helpful and important interviews on MS. Thanks to all!

Senine - I wonder if there's an early money counterfeiting thread to pull on there? 🤔 Money seems to be something that would be on a counterfeiters or money diggers mind than the other metrics like a "mile". I've not yet studied enough on the counterfeiting claims to go beyond a ponderence of a potential hypothesis.

Did any of you see Passion of the Christ ? Jim C is in it, did you caught the meaning when he covered his one eye??? That signifies “the all seeing one eye,” do you understand the meaning, it’s “evil,” it’s NOT anything good or holy!!

My favorite podcast about religion. Very smart but not so smart it goes over my head😂

Members of the LDS church always take great pride in the fact that they don't have paid clergy and their leaders don't get professional training in a seminary or Bible college. And even though I think the training clergy might receive in those institutions is far from perfect at least they go into their ministries with the expectation that they are going to be counseling people. And since it is their profession they can devote the necessary resources to it. That fact that the LDS church takes random people and throws them in the deep end like this AND expects them to do what is essentially a full time job in their spare time with little to no training is ridiculous. I heard a sibling and his friends talking about a stake bishops' training they went to last week and they made it sound like it was a hot mess.

My father, who works with the churches missionary programs, told me this about a month ago.

Mormanism is a systematic, structured, intense oppression and antiliberation of women and their freedom.

I feel Ike you are all humble women and should not take on any shame around being “called”. An ordinary man told you this and you believed him because of his position. The men who gave the assignments without giving you any training are at fault. Be proud of your talent and don’t be ashamed that you were not qualified.