Best Pixar Movie (CinemaSins vs. Honest Trailers) - MOVIEFIGHTS!
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CinemaSins' Jeremy Scott and Chris Atkinson and Screen Junkies' Andy Signore and Dan Murrell square off with guest judge Kristian Harloff (Schmoes Know) on these topics for the week of 5/15:
0:03:30 FIGHT 1 - Pitch Spider-Man's introduction to the MCU
0:10:26 FIGHT 2 - Worst cinema sin
0:22:27 FIGHT 3 - Best movie chase scene
0:32:45 FIGHT 4 - Best Pixar movie
0:45:35 FIGHT 5 - Dream versus movie
0:54:05 FIGHT 6 - Most sinful movie
1:06:03 FIGHT 7 - Speed Round
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I haven't been able to sleep since that Matrix Reloaded point was awarded.
But seriously, thanks for having us... dicks. :)
You guys were awesome! Big fan of cinema sins really enjoy your videos but have found myself tallying sins whenever I watch a movie or tv show lol
CinemaSins I think its time you guys re visited The Last Airbender EWW just out of spite…
CinemaSins Might as well comment this on a screen junkies video too.
Everything Wrong With Star Wars A New Hope. Thank you and goodnight
You guys were awesome. It was cool to finally see the guy behind the voice on the Prometheus sins. His intonations and accent makes that one so funny. You guys are the winners of this Movie Fights as far as I'm concerned.
Dr. Curt Cockings.
CinemaSins you commented on this video!? thats just awesome!!! first i thought nick was bad but andy is worst
I would love to see Cinema Sins do an Everything Wrong With Honest Trailers, and Screen Junkies do an Honest Trailer for Cinema Sins. Who's with me?:)
They already do that with amazing spiderman 2
ZenHorakti I think he means sin an Honest Trailer and do an Honest Trailer about Cinemasins.
Tyler Swanson hahahhaha epic
Honestsin-ception
Tyler Cloke yep :)
"I just think it's more original"
"YOURE ARGUING FOR A SEQUEL" 😂😂
The cinemasins man voice is fucking amazing
+MattsAttack-BRFC the one with the cap
His name is Jeremy and you can see some of his videos at cinema sins Jeremy
Right!!!! His voice is so compelling!! I'm like yea he gets this point.
+Orpheus 010 They're all being passionate about it, so obviously it's going to be heated arguments when someone disagrees and diminishes something you like. Duh
Cory Weston please elaborate
So the entire hour and a bit boils down to... Jet Li vs a talking raptor.
Sweet.
Smexi Jebus Perhaps someone should have argued for that one in the dream versus movies round.
TheDisasterfreak I can already see the long lines of people wanting to see that one.
MOAR!!!
Smexi Jebus I think Jet Li vs a talking raptor would have been Bourne vs Bond.
I'd rather watch Jet Li than a talking raptor.
This was an insane one to judge and I was honored! Hope you guys enjoy!
Yeah the shmoes
Amen Kristian!
So refreshing to see a different perspective as a judge
schmoesknow Finally, we get an unbiased judge. Andy is a horrible judge but a very good contestant.
The worst movie had to be cloverfield
Seeing this AFTER civil war. Impressive how Andy got close to the actual Spider-man introduction. :D
From the trailer.... They did tell that the trailer was out... They were quoting from what they saw in the trailer.
The trailer was not out til 7 months after this was uploaded. You're waay off buddy.
+Tom Praytor thank you for that
That's exactly what I was thinking.
I think the director watch this and then mixed up two ideas.
Does anyone else want to see a three way fight between Andy, Jeremy and someone from HISHE?
y?
yes but with Dan, not Andy
yeah I hate andys face
I'm not hate Andy as judgeman but as a fighter the guy is just an pain in the ass. Sereiusly the guy only point is to talk louder , interrupt the oponent and say the same fanboy criticism over and over again. Dan on the other hand is the most well speak smart guy i've ever seen in Movie Fights
or just a threeway.
I was cheering Jeremy on in the Pixar argument.... This was everything I expected it to be. Andy was annoying, the judge was amazing, Dan was underused, and Jeremy Friggin Killed. Cinema Sins should've taken it honestly...
Isac Horvat Dude for real. Soon as Andy started mentioning Toy Story 1 or 3 they should have lost. i thought Jeremy was gonna lose it when Andy brought up orginality.
Isac Horvat Totally agree with the underutilization of Dan. You don't just leave your MVP on the bench. And as for the Pixar Argument I love all the Toy Story movies but I think TS1 and 3 are better than 2. The Incredibles was awesome too. Either way it's Pixar you can't go wrong no matter what you choose.
Saying cinema sins should have taken it is like saying you didn't like the judging. I thought it was completely fair since it's based on the arguments. Someone shouldn't win just because you like them more. There were good arguments on both sides and Christian told us exactly why he picked each winner based on the argument. I will say I'm glad the Pixar round went to cinema sins. Andy wasn't making a proper argument for the one movie.
Andy has too much control, this felt like Pacquiao and Mayweather where it's "his house, his rule" thing and I think he needs tone it down and let others have a chance, still love ya andy.
...also where the hell was the FIERCE DAN!? I want a rematch with only Dan and Jeremy and Kris as judge. I WANT LIMBS FLYING!
Isac Horvat I did enjoy Toy Story 2 and thought it was one of the better Toy Story movies but I totally agree Andy is annoying and that it seems Andy just argues over the top of people (riles me up). Incredibles just is the better movie though, definitely in my top 5 movies of all time.
it's weird seeing the CinemaSins voice guy talking
kietasss he is even a more aggressive fighter than Roger Barr.
Watch the "conversations with myself" videos on the cinemasins channel
So you haven't see him talking check his channel cinemasins jeremy
dantelo88 I agree.
This Video Doesn't Contain A Lap Dance
The Screenjunkies guy in the green shirt totally bulldozed the pixar argument. It was really really annoying. Like, not really an ARGUMENT when you're interrupting your opponent mid-way through his own points to re-hash your points on three movies does not a good debate make, dude.
+Andrew DeVita Oh and I know and he was just like toy story 2 is better because it just is kind of thing...
+Enderdude17 I agree whole heartedly man. Andy gets really annoying when he tries to debate. See the Jurassic World episode for another example. He's disrespectful
+Enderdude17 I'm late for the party but whatever. God Damn, Andy's pixar argument was annoying. He just would not shut up. His opening just went on and on.
+Enderdude17 sore-loser-itis
late to the party, but damn he had no argument at all. he was generally arguing 'Toy story 2 is better than 1 and 3. All the 3 are better than Incredibles. Why? Nobody knows lol.'
Andy : Well Incredibles is great but it's not that original
Jeremy : (Internally screams "WTF?!") You're arguing about a SEQUEL!
Mad Max Fury Road makes Furious 7 look like Cars
Michael Voorhees you just earned a like!
Dr. Olympus Thank You Sir
Michael Voorhees Preach!
Mad Max Fury Road was pretty shit
Michael Voorhees Even Cars made Furious 7 look like Cars 2 :/
Kristian is a great judge. He is so into the arguments, so involved in the fight without inserting his own opinion into it. Well done.
so the opposite of andy?
Rashaad Lockley Oh, Andy is fine. Andy is good. He is a little _too_ involved sometimes.
Isaac Thefallenapple Andy is a douche.
DangDangPictures I want to disagree and would like to get some reasons. He's a big teddy bear who likes his movies.
Isaac Thefallenapple Agree fully. Andy stubbles too much and gets too involved and is a bit more biased where at least Kristian was neutral the whole fight.
Still waiting for Jeremy to be able to finish a statement during the closing argument.
i'd fucking love for Jeremy to lose it and just roast andy, which he looked like he was gonna do at one point
5:55 OMG Andy was so close to how it actually ended up
i know right!!! im like "OMG Andy! youre right for once" XD
Seriously, I already wrote this but Chris is the best judge hands down. The way he closes every round by saying what he liked about both keeps the suspense up and makes it really interesting until the very end.
Andy, take some notes buddy.
Jay Venne I Strongly disagree, he mentions the loser first => no supsense.
But as far as the not really well mad arguments go, he did the best he could. I was wishing for more emotional envolvement from him. It is just for fun, so having fun might be ok? But then people would have given him shit for being unreasonable and biased....ahhh it just doesn´t work either way....
Str4vv True, it is impossible to please everyone. I prefer when there is little to no emotions involved when judging.
I think we can all agree that we all watch movie fights because its fun and silly and nobody takes it too serisouly.
Emotions do not make you biased in my opinion. Like the Jackass argument was AWESOME and it won. Even though it might be objectively stupid. I liked that :D
Yet again, this fight gave the judge so little to work with...
I dislike him as a fighter, but he did an awesome job as a judge. So much better gthan Andy. Sure he mentins the loser first, but thats beside his reasoning, which I found on point.
Jay Venne I actually used to find him really annoying. But I really like Kristian now. He seems very down to earth and humble about his opinions
That Pixar argument was so frustrating! Why didn't Cinema Sins talk about the themes within The Incredibles! It deals with dullness of suburban life (something almost all westerners can relate too!), it deals with the idea of a small minority of individuals having their rights restricted for being different (comparisons can be drawn with gay people and even African-Americans) and it puts a spin on growing up and feeling different, on parenthood, on reaching your full potential! So much ammunition that could have used in their arguments AND THEY WASTED ALL OF IT!!!
Ben Braddock It depends on what your opponent is arguing, and it really didn't help that his opponent is Andy, who's notorious for interrupting people to make his point.
comicking428 Andy can go a little over the top, but personally I don't have a problem with his style of argumentation.
During that argument, Andy kept referring to the themes within Toy Story 2, it seemed logical to me that Cinema Sins would immediately reply with "well how about all these relevant, important themes in the Incredibles"! I think that The Incredibles is way better then Toy Story, it frustrated me that Cinema Sins didn't do it justice!
Ben Braddock They're only given a limited amount of time, and I agree that cinemasins could have elaborated more, but the problem is Andy was arguing originality and was comparing the one Incredibles movie to the Toy Story trilogy (which was unfair), so Jeremy emphasized more on presentation.
comicking428 Well that is why Screenjunkies lost. I just find in this show that so often there are 3 or 4 knock-out points in arguments that never get used!
Cinema Sins spent more time attacking Andy's (flawed) points instead of letting the Incredibles talk for itself! I guess what I am saying is the Incredibles didn't win, Toy Story 2 lost, if that makes sense.
Ben Braddock I understand, the thing about arguments is that you want to balance improving your own point but also taking down your opponent. If you let your opponent get away with certain points they are more bound to win.
Why does it come across that Screen Junkies are arguing that Toy Story 2 is better than Toy Story 1 rather than better than Incredibles?
Because that's basically what they did. The guy in the green shirt even said it outright.
why did they not pick kaitto kid vs sherlock holmes...thats my dream matchup..
Damn, rewatching this really makes me dislike Andy more as a judge. Christian is amazing at this. He recaps each argument, what was compelling and what didn't work or what wasn't mentioned, and very articulately shows his thought process and reasoning for why this led to his decision. I didn't necessarily agree with the decisions every time, but his reasoning was clear and rational and well stated enough that I don't fault any of the decisions- they just come down to personal differences in interpreting the arguments. Then Andy judges, and he just blusters for 30 seconds, occasionally repeating a phrase or two said by someone, says "this is tough", and goes, "*blank* gets the point!" Andy just isn't good at EXPLAINING his reasoning, which I think is why you see so much backlash from people who disagree with his decisions. If he was as clear and articulate as Christian in talking through his decisions, I don't think people would be as upset- Almost no one in these comments are mad at Christian for his decisions even if they disagree with them. And I think that's because he explains well enough to leave no doubt that personal bias didn't play into it, where Andy doesn't explain his reasoning, making some of his decisions seem arbitrary. I know Andy is the established judge, but damn, I just wish he would either get better at it or recognize that he's not great and find a replacement. I like the show, but I'm slowly getting sick of Andy specifically.
I enjoy Andys more just because they are short, this guy takes 2 minutes to decide the winner and who really cares about the whole thought process.
I enjoy Andys more just because they are short, this guy takes 2 minutes to decide the winner and who really cares about the whole thought process.
I enjoy Andys more just because they are short, this guy takes 2 minutes to decide the winner and who really cares about the whole thought process.
I enjoy Andys more just because they are short, this guy takes 2 minutes to decide the winner and who really cares about the whole thought process
After watching this, I somehow became annoyed at the fact that Andy is the main judge because he clearly isn't even a good fighter. In fact, he's one of the worst I've seen.
Dan Murrell vs. Chris Stuckman vs. Jeremy Scott = Would be the Most Awesome Movie Fight to date.
Tony Waweru This NEEDS to happen!
Vs jeremy jahns
Tony Waweru I've been saying this for months!!
Tony Waweru
Doug Walker would be great as well
I want Hal vs. Jeremy vs. Daniel Baxter from HISHE!
Jeremy is the best.
Andrew Walker agreed
The "big emotional scene" in Toy Story 3 wasn't when the toys were holding hands in the incinerator. I mean sure it was an emotional point, but the movie had a lot of those. The scene that nearly brought everyone to tears had to be Andy's goodbye to Woody -- that moment when Bonnie reaches for Woody, and Andy hesitates and pulls back a little, but realizes that he has to let go... That's nostalgia done right. A worthy end to a momentous Pixar era.
Mmmmmmmmm! i could not agree more
I don't think the cinemasins guys got to finish a single thought throughout the whole show. SJ guys kept interrupting them and stealing all the wins from them.
Not SJ guys. Only Andy was being obnoxious. I think the other SJ guy Dan was being respectful and fair.
Crystal T. I'll give you that.
Yeah no one here likes Andy he's not cool. Dan is pretty chill it seems like tho
I disagree- it's a movie fight, not a movie friendly chat. Nick gets so much more heated than these guys and yet people still love him.
+CarelessWhispers ASMR Andy goes too loud and steps on the CS guys arguments. Dan listens and counterargues.
CinemaSins fighting Screen Junkies on their own turf
How is that supposed to work? CinemaSins doesn't have live studio capabilities as part of "their turf" in Nashville TN.
***** guys, guys, the sinners are first time fighters and took the champ and Andy down to the last point. They did fantastic, they don't need their own turf, and they'll be even better for the rematch.
I don't know if CinemaSins will ever come back. At a few moments, Jeremy looks like he wants to just punch Signore in the face.
Am I the only person NOT seeing these so called moments of animosity and friction people think they are witnessing?! It's like when Chris Stuckmann was on several LA based shows (this, SchmoesKnow, etc) and fans on the Internet just knew he was pissed or bored, or upset about something, when it was the furthest thing from the truth.
StudioInkblot I know right?!
Best Leonardo Dicapprio movie that should have earned an Oscar?
Cameron O Wolf of Wall Street, no question.
Inception
Cameron O He should have won for Django! Fuckin Bloody Hand Madness!!
Inception
Cameron O best leonardo dicaprio PERFORMANCE that deserves an oscar!
Andy did not let Dan talk enough, Dan is the undisputed champion of Movie Fights and he's a master of this!
Also I would say Incredibles is way more emotional than Toy Story 2 because Mr. Incredible discovers all his friends have systematically been murdered and he was willing to kill someone after he thought his family died on the plane. Emotional in such a raw real way other than disregarding your childhood memories.
i agree. Toy Story 2 is the least emotional one of the 3 IMO
man i hate when andy argues, hes a good judge but not a fighter. he just cuts everyone off and laughs at the opposing opinion
anusdestroyer69 even as a judge he more than often breaks his own rules and gives a point for a funny argument over a better argument. especially towards Dan who he will never let lose
vanasco la porta well,from what I have seen dan usually has good quality arguments so I dont think he makes dan win...
Funny argument,well maybe underneath funny argument there is something you cant see :P
I think Andy still had better arguments the Nick Mindy did in the last championship episode. It was almost as if Nick didn't want Dan to lose his belt.. A lot of good debates were ruined that day lol. Andy though loud and overbearing at times at least was passionate and in the debate to win.
Most emotional Pixar scene: sully has to say goodbye to boo. I wasn't prepared emotionally for that shit.
bas vigil The jesse scene wasn't sad at all imo
Sully
bas vigil And when Sully gets back in Boo's room, it makes me smile everytime.
Octosoufre But that scene means much less when they learn that they can visit. It is just like how Andy and Dan argued that fake character deaths are there only to get a cheap emotion out of the watcher. Why was that scene so sad when it was made irrelevant by another scene only minutes later. There's also something to be said about how cheap the death of a character is in a movie. It is one of the easiest and cheapest ways to make characters and the audience feel emotional about the movie. Jesse's scene is sad, not because somebody died and left her alone, but because she was left alone by somebody who had forgotten her. That is a much bigger wound to heal.
😂
It's funny watching this after seeing Tom Holland in Spider-Man Homecoming
I actually agree that Toy Story 2 is better than 1 & 3... but in terms of THE BEST Pixar movie, it's got to be either The Incredibles or Finding Nemo for me. :)
+Jake C From The Incredibles, I love the family component, the art style is AMAZING, the music is absolutely fantastic. But my favorite thing is the little crazy moments make it not just another super hero movie. When have you seen Mr. Fantastic being stretched out three hallways for a comedy skit, someone realizing they can run on water, and a superhero asking his wife "Where's my super suit!". I can't name a single character that wasn't fully flushed out. The background characters were at the wedding, in Edna's "no capes!", and in the Kronos log. I could name so many things. Toy Story 2 was the best Toy Story by far, but it doesn't establish a universe very well, which is what I like.
I do agree with finding nemo, being that finding nemo broke many barriers, but as they were talking about it, although many may think it's strange, I'd have to say Up is the best Pixar film.
+Jake C i find your lack of walle disturbing.
:') Sorry.
+Jake C What about A bugs life?
is it just me or was kristian a better judge than andy has ever been
Bunny Chan I agree.
I'dsay so but his hosting was kinda lacking.
Andy is arguably the worst part of Movie Fights. Which is awkward since it's basically his baby.
Andy's voice is the problem. Not really his fault but still...
CanOn TheCounter I wasn't even really looking at this string of comments until here, and for a second I thought you were talking about Andy from Toy Story. Funny coincidence, or something far more sinister?
Incredibles is the funniest movie in Pixar history, with the funniest scene in Pixar history. "Where's my super suit" is the most iconic and quoted scene in any pixar movie ever
TheRdvlshp09 "Incredibles is the funniest movie in Pixar history, with the funniest scene in Pixar history"Maybe." "Where's my super suit" is the most iconic and quoted scene in any pixar movie ever"No.
Tom Waits could you possibly name one that is more quotable?
I believe "Finding Nemo" is more quoted (it even has a meme of Dory) than The Incredibles: "Just keep swimming", ""P. Sherman, Wallaby Way, Sydney", "Mine, mine!"
TheRdvlshp09 Also it's relatable, at the end of the day it's about a family going through a hard time, anyone can understand that, Toy Story 2 didn't make me feel shitty for leaving my toys in a box, they're toys, they're not actually real.
Alexander Forbes But, they see everything...
I think Cinemasins won every single argument regardless of their choices. Jeremy and Chris are some of the smartest movie fans I've ever heard.
I think finding out all of your old superhero friends had been murdered by a man who you made evil was much more traumatic for Mr. Incredible than Jessie being left in the box. There are a lot of hard hitting themes in the Incredibles too.
Best movie chase scene?? It clearly has to be the full two hours of Mad Max: Fury Road
Raul Mejia Going to watch it next Tuesday but by what I got told by friends, you are probably absolutely right!
Raul Mejia, Niki Lauda vs James Hunt in Rush
Raul Mejia what a lovely day!
Raul Mejia You're right about Mad Max, but it's the final tanker scene in the Road Warrior.
Swadhin Sangram Swain i agree rush is an awesome movie and the scenes with niki lauda and james hunt are awesome, but that is a race, not a chase
Basically ScreenJunkies invited CinemaSins on their show to prove they were better than them but honestly CinemaSins should have won.
***** agree completely.... highlight of the day. Kristian being a badasss judge
***** I concur, this guy knew his business!
MrPobanz still better than andy.
My only problem with this is that the honest trailer guy doesn't know how to debate, like yeah you can be passionate but it's not a debate if you don't let the other person make their point without interrupting. He'd make a great politician.
I love Jeremy's voice. I am used to it from his videos, but I like it even more when I see him talking normally/relaxed, lol.
Hey, Brad Bird actually wrote the original outline of the screenplay for the Incredibles without any of the super powers included and added the powers in to reflect the personalities of the characters, so a mom trying to stretch everywhere to make things work, a hyperactive boy running all over the place, a shy teenager afraid to show herself to her crush but can lash out forcefully at times, and a father lifting his family up as much as he can! Any similarity to the Fantastic Four was therefore coincidental, and Brad Bird did NOT draw from the Fantastic Four and replace them with new characters. So you can't argue that it's a generic Super Hero movie
Holy crap! If this is true I will worship the ground Brad Bird walks on even more so. That is brilliant writing!
Do you have a source for that? I'm not trying to be rude, but I really want to read about that, and use that as a defense against people calling Incredible unoriginal.
froboythestud sorry but the fantastic four goes back to 1961 ... even without knowing the serie it had an impact on society so he cant be original unless you show me that he grew up in a hole and then produced the film ... that its as valid as the author of hunger games saying she got the idea alone ... too many similiarities to be coincidence; btw further half of the fun watching the Incredible is because it refers to comics
froboythestud They whole argument that it wasn't original killed me inside. How dare they say it was a generic superhero film. That is the most bullshit thing I've heard a week, and I just saw Matix Reloaded win over French Connection.
The film opens up with the Superheros on a downward spiral. They started getting sued, the government couldn't pay for the damages, and the public thinks they are more harm than good. Because the superheros in that universe doesn't have a Tony Stark or a Bruce Wayne to pay for all "saving the day"damages. That already makes it different from your average superhero movie because most don't even acknowledge the gross amounts of property damage, and how they might even injure the people they are trying to save. Screenjunkies was getting hung up on their powers. Sure they aren't brand new powers the world has never seen before, but that doesn't mean the story isn't original or the characters aren't original.
And thank you CinemaSins for stating something I have been saying for years. The Incredibles is one of the best superhero films of all time. It often gets overlooked because it is animated. It blows most of its live action counterparts out of the water.
Time to watch Andy Vs. Cinema Sins. I doubt Dan will get to say much.
Pretty much arguments 3 and 4. You could tell dan was like "that's not what I would've picked"
Dantania nice prediction man seems lyk you know how the SJ team thinks and behaves
I have watched every episode and whenever he can steamroll he will.
Couldn't have summed it up better.
Yeah but the reason why andy steam rolls and always gets loud is because he always sitting in the judges seat for the majority of fights, so when he does get a chance to have his say its completely understandable why he can be a bit over bearing.
Did nobody remember the scene in The Incredibles when Bob basically hears his family die? I mean yeah they survive, but he didn't know that. How can anyone not find THAT heartbreaking?
Incredibles wins hands down. Wall-E and Up are contenders, I also like Toy Story 2 the most, but I could watch Incredibles probably like 4x a year and enjoy it everytime. None of the Toy Storys have legs like that.
MattrickBT inside out > Wall-E (and Wall-E use to be my favorite before it)
+MattrickBT Totally ridiculous. Up's first 10 min are among the best of cinema EVER MADE. Just because the rest of the movie doesn't measure up to THAT doesn't mean it's "awful". It just means the last 2/3rds of the movie was great and among the best of the YEAR, not ALL TIME.
I mean, seriously?! Do you even know the definition of awful? Superman IV, Batman and Robin, Battlefield Earth, The Last Airbender, Movie 43, The Legend of Hercules, and even this year's Fantastic Four. These movies are AWFUL. The last 2/3rds of Up? You're high if you think that is awful.
+Darin Michael It's definitely not among the best of cinema EVER. Perhaps top 10 of the last 20 years.
+Harkness78 Incredibles wins for style, depth, and unique character interaction. Wall-E is awesome, and Up has the saddest and best starting in all of movies I have seen. The middle part of Up is garbage, but anything to do with "Ellie" is the most emotional thing in all the movies.
+Harkness78 The winner has to be Toy Story; no other Pixar movie comes close.
Best pixar film? Wall-E.
On the basis that it's amazing it even exists. A film with no humans in the main cast and no dialogue for the first half of the film.
Yes! They didn't even mention wall-e:(
Jayfive276 I loved wall-e. But I still think Incredibles is better
Jayfive276 Unfortunately the movie has a second half
I would say Wall-E, Up, and maybe Ratatouille (I like to cook) are my favorites
I loved Wall-E, and the Incredibles, but without Toy Story neither of them would exist; not to mention it was completely original.
CinemaSins has SO much more of a mature understanding of movies across genres than Screen Junkies does. Seems like Screen Junkies can't ever go beyond the basic Hollywood, blockbuster action films...
Sad, but true.
Sarah Miller You get more $$ with more clicks. Integrity go bye bye.
Kasper TK yea but those blockbuster movies mentioned have been included over and over in other movie fights videos. Every time they mention a movie I've never heard of or seen it is immediately added to my to watch list. They always complain about how Hollywood no longer has creative ideas and people only go to see the movies that were made to make money, so by mentioning other movies beside the generic types I believe they would be introducing their views to good fashion entertainment.
Well your example centers around the general public. The fans of these videos are typically movie enthusiasts. If screen junkies do not branch out with their choices the show will never evolve and it will eventually come to a point were it is just rephrased versions of arguments we have already heard.
if that is the case they should rename the show to 'BLOCKBUSTER movie fights'.
best Pixar movie needs a rematch. a LOT of minutes went to just "this movie is better", barely any arguments.
Man, we need another one of these fights. MAKE IT HAPPEN GUYS!!
Jesus christ! Andy just talks over everyone and repeats himself, or uses 3 toy stories to fight 1 incredibles
Ricky Mckinnon I agree, he's really annoying, Jeremy def is a better sport and actually stuck to the rules.
Ricky Mckinnon yeah, he's rather unbearable.
Ricky Mckinnon how is that different then the normal HT fights he's in?
Kidlike101 true
andy is a sore winner. when cinemasins won a point you didn't see them jump up and celebrate like children.
Rahul Varma Exactly. This is a fight. So you dont cheer for your enemy! In my opinion, thats the right way to do this movieFIGHTS.
keen hes just excited, him interupting in other movie fights battles is whats annoying but tolerable for me
keen i love his passion tbh its better than just sitting there and moving on the next one.....also I'd love the show to have a small crowd in there cheering and booing :D
Rahul Varma one is to be passionate, one is to be respectful.
"I know you are arguing for the Incredibles but here's why TS2 is better than TS1 and TS3". He is essentially arguing with himself instead of CinemaSins.
"YOURE ARGUING FOR A SEQUAL"
Not even Dan could keep the giggle in xD
This was really fun. I would not have liked to be the judge in that one, but Kristian Harloff did a great job of being impartial and listening to the arguments. I don't watch the SchmoesKnow channel, if you were to tell me that he has some experience hosting podcast, I would totally believe you.
Thank you for the kind words, hope you will come explore the Schmoes Know movies show!
At schmoesknow you are missing out on watching one half of the best film punditry team on CZcams this side of Siskel & Ebert! Plus +KristianHarloff ain't no ball bag, but he can preside over "BallBag City" with the grace and care they truly deserve, so he can definitely handle the likes of these guys! Lol
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***** You should watch the SchmoesKnow videos, he is just as great hosting their show together with a great and fun crew
To me Cinema Sins wiped the floor with Screen Junkies this episode, and Screen Junkies came off as pouty and spoiled. I'm normally a big fan of Andy, but he was very disrespectful and constantly changed the terms of the argument to justify his muddled points.
MrHootiedean I thought Cinema Sins got pity points in half the things they "won". Screen Junkies team had by FAR the better choices overall, and definitely the better arguments.
Alexander Nevsky I'm fine with agreeing to disagree here. It's all just opinions.
***** NO. Andy is amazing... You dont recognise it thats all...
BDWJ1986 I had no personal investment in who won as I enjoy both of their respective shows equally. What I expected was that Andy would employ the same criteria he has in judging these fights when he is on the other side fighting, specifically the Toy Story/Incredibles round where he was flailing to justify his choice(s), constantly interrupting and taking it personal when this is just an entertainment show without any real stakes other than to entertain and possible internet bragging rights. To say I just wanted CinemaSins to win, though I never stated that nor have ever expressed that sentiment is just you projecting your own bias.
***** are you saying Andy is more annoying than Hal Rudnick when arguing?
Does Andy ever let anyone else talk?.. He hogs both his sides time and the other sides time and ironically, it's almost always nonsensical word salad.
The Honest Trailers epic voice guy's voice I can easily match with his face. I cannot, at all, match Jeremy's voice with his face. Like, it just doesn't add up in my brain for some reason.
Great fight, but am I the only one who thinks that these should be a solid 90-120 mins every week
I would love that
Smokey McJoint That's what she said.
yea my main issue is cus there trying to get it done as quick as possible they rush through some fights, I feel every fight should run its course
the Y2J Guy -ChaosX2limited No, I would watch these daily. Hell, I would pay to watch these daily!
AlmostLikeHuman my issue is that they would be sacrificing quality for quantity
To me CinemaSins definitely won!
littlemissmello French Connection chase all the way!
littlemissmello The Incredibles VS Toy Story one was really hard. I love Toy Story more but I'll agree on the fact that the Incredibles was perfect in every way.
littlemissmello Its based on the argument though, and Andy kept argueing for all 3 Toy Story movies instead of picking one. That should already disqualify him in that round
Michael Colby Agreed. Which is also why Toy Story is a hard one because ALL the Toy Story movies together is pretty much what makes it so great and if you're talking about the best Pixar movies they are definitely in the top, however it's a difficult one to argue and I don't think it was argues very well here. "I just love the movies so much" is not an argument, although I agree.
littlemissmello I also got so pissed when they kept calling The Incredibles just another super hero movie, its not. Its one of it not the greatest animated movie of all time.
Damn Andy let Dan talk!
40:42 Jeremy was fed up with his bs and went off. God, I love Jeremy.
Kristian Harloff is really great as a judge.
And I am saying that as someone who has not been a huge fan of him when he was a contestant.
Appreciate that bud, thanks for giving me a shot!
schmoesknow You're a cool dude, but sometimes you seem kinda sloshed when you compete.
Ha not sloshed, just thought it was supposed to be WWE style the first few times I was on and realized you guys prefer the straight shooting facts first. I like listening to the fans so let's see how the next battle goes!
schmoesknow Lookin forward to it. See you then.
schmoesknow I definitely prefer the fights that are not too loud and shouty and this fight delivered.
On that note I (and some others) gave +andysignore some grief for being too loud a few weeks ago as a contestant, but he was really on his best behavior this show. I liked that.
everytime Jeremy stops talking I expect to hear a * *DING* *
Hey Honest Trailers, you wanna let someone else talk for a bit? You spent the entire Pixar argument shouting down Cinema Sins about literally one scene in TS2.
It's crazy how right Screen Junkies was about the introduction of Spider-Man.
"You're arguing for a SEQUEL! DON'T TALK TO ME ABOUT ORIGINALITY!"
Fxcking lost it! XD
Great episode! I've said it before and I'll say it again: Red Letter Media vs Screen Junkies.
NivekJ1 I don't think Screen Junkies could handle that.
Stefan Kovacevic When it comes to tearing movies apart, there really isn't anyone who does it better than Red Letter Media; even CinimaSins pale in comparison.
For example, they have an hour long review solely dedicated to why the Phantom Menace sucked.
sjbrooksy45 I agree. If you love film/movies, or wanna be a filmmaker, who better to learn from than Red letter media. Their in depth, creative, and hilarious reviews are so damn informative. These guys really know how to make valid and concise points about every single film they watch. Jeremy Jahns pales in comparison to these guys. I personally think he did horrible on screen junkies and really did a fine job of showcasing his lack of film literacy. Cinema Sin's nitpicks. That is their style or gimmick with EVERY MOVIE and i must say; Its a tired gimmick.
Stefan Kovacevic The personalities are too different and I think they would just end up pissing off Andy. Despite the shit they talk, Screen Junkies wants to be accepted by people in the industry.
NivekJ1 Red Letter Media is awesome, but they aren't hardcore geeks with the exception of Rich Evans. They would just get shit faced and insult the Screen Junkies crew by saying they pay male prostitutes for butt sex or something like that.
I forgot how badly Jeremy slayed Andy in the Best Pixar movie fight
During the "Most Sinful" Argument, I feel that if Jeremy had interrupted with the CinemaSin line, "The [Source Material] doesn't matter." They would have gotten that point.
24:00 Andy spends 45 seconds getting a head start on rebuttal before stating what chase scene he was arguing for. Kristian should have shut that down - you don't get to trash the other guy's choice until you have one of your own on the table. Weak sauce, dude....
Jeff Godley And at the end they win that round?!? Dirty....
....I am way too emotionally invested in this.
I couldn't even bring myself to debate Best Pixar Movie. I love them all too much.
Agreed, I could split them up into categories of which ones I like more, but to pick just one favorite, I couldn't do, not without rewatching them all or most of them first
doody magoob Well, Cars 2 was not good... Brave was better and Monsters University was an improvement as well, but my point is: I can't say I love them all anymore. Even if you like Cars 2, you've got to admit it's not as good as previous Pixar movies.
You're right. I'm pretty much referring to pre-Cars 2 Pixar (Toy Story, Ratatouille, Up, Incredibles, WALL-E).
doody magoob Same
doody magoob Recently pixar has gone downhill after Toy story 3. Cars 2 was horrible, Brave was mediocre, and monsters uni was good, but could have been better. Hopefully inside out and the good dinosaur are pixar quality.
Can we just remove andy signore from screen junkies in general he is sooooooo arrogant and not open minded his way is the only way jesus please...
Looks like you got your wish
I really like Movie Fights, but, whenever Andy is in the fight I can't watch. His method of shouting, talking as fast as possible, interrupting everyone, and, belaboring his points is very tiresome. He sounds like a stubborn child. Andy we are grateful that you started the channel, but, that is not an excuse to act this way. If you are going to be in the fight; please use proper debate etiquette when coming to the table so that all the fights are fair, and, balanced. That way we all have fun. Thank you. ~~*~~
This was the MOST intense MOVIE FIGHTS EVER MADE CINEMA SINS PlZ comeback ON THE SHOW :D
And Chris (SHCOMES) Best judge EVER! :D
Yes Kristian Harloff judging.. I know he's gonna be awesome :]
Kelly Davis Why are you on all the videos I watch, what is this right now
Kelly Davis He did a fantastic job.
Amphibious Lycanthrope about to ask the same
There was a TONNE of tension in this one hahaha
Every screenjunkies argument is just the big guy geeking out about a movie he likes
I can't help but hate Andy when he is actually fighting, 'cause he talks like 90% of the time, and actually does what he (as a host) never wants the fighters to do, like interrupt others, make a waaay to long arguments and don't right away say what their chioce is... Is there a petition I can sign to NEVER let Andy be a fighter again?
Ilja Svetnik You can do something even better. If he's plugging something like a Screen Junkies T-Shirt or a sponsor like Lootcrate, you can opt not to buy a shirt or go for whatever he's plugging. It's like voting with your wallet. You can say "Hey, I choose not to support this" and there's not a damn thing he can do about it.
***** Calm down lol... and enjoy the fight... You could say the same of Dans poutiness...
Just enjoy the fight! We wouldnt be here without Andy, remember that.
Sushil Selvarajan What he's saying is that Andy makes the fight near un-enjoyable, I was looking forward to this episode and Andy absolutely ruined it for me with his awful "debates" (they looked more like throwing a big tantrum to me) and Dan barely talked the entire show, how could you complain about him LOL.
Nic Howard I don't dislike Andy although I have to agree and say this episode would have been better had Spencer Gilbert taken his place, especially as he writes Honest Trailers.
Kristian is a much better judge than Andy
Extramark9 I really like Andy as a judge, I agree that sometimes he chooses what "he thinks is better" not the best argument, I won't argue on that BUT to be fair with Andy, Kristian had it easier because all the fighters were controlling themselves hahaha. I mean, Andy sometimes comes out as a douche because he makes people shut up, trying to make the arguments short and in turns. I'd love to see Kristian as a judge with Mundy on the table hahaha
Everyone complaining about Andy judging must take into account he is the producer and show runner which means he is responsible for getting the show down to a reasonable length and moving things forward before they get boring or out of hand.
Extramark9 The loudest person barking doesn't win the fights, Andy, lol.....
That's what I was thinking the entire fight
Extramark9 He's also a better fighter. They gotta get Andy outta there, I can't listen to him.
catching up on old movie fights I missed, and this is probably the best one they've done. Very little semantics, no douchey yelling over each other for the entire argument, great moderation, etc. Hope they keep going down that road!
in the end it was basically just, "who did the judge want to win?"
"Don't talk to me about originality when you're arguing for a sequel!"
I lost it at that point
Poor Dan Murell. Barely could say anything
Ikr i wish the judge would have told Andy to shut the hell up
Couldn't agree more. Andy needs to let others talk when he's not judging. I think Andy should just stay as a judge cause he continually interrupts everyone else (even the host).
Pc_Chris Well they're a team and that could have been their way of competing so the judge can't do anything.
jakdax77 I ain't sad...This guy have the worst argument...''Incredible is not the best because it's a superhero movie'' is the dumbest point made in this fight
jakdax77 Andy really should STFU.
So happy they had Kristian judge, I wanted him to judge a show for sometime now yay 😄 He did a great job!
This was one of the best movie fights I've watched. Hoping to see more cinemasins vs honest trailers in the future!
36:33 jeremy says "it's technically flawless" is it a movie without sins though?
***** very true, now CinemaSins has to do a video about incredibles.
***** For example, scene with Mirage does not contain a lapdance.
TheMemphibian And make it they have.
Lonelynightm so happy
TheMemphibian They just did :D
Current Movie Fights Standings (Rankings are based on win percentage. Ties are broken by Points Per Game. In the event that those are the same, the total points will be the deciding factor.)
Current Champion
Dan Murrell (8-0, 1.000) (47 points) (5.86 PPG)
T1. Amy Nicholson (1-0, 1.000) (6 points) (6.00 PPG)
T1. Chris Stuckmann (1-0, 1.000) (6 points) (6.00 PPG)
3. Alicia Malone (2-2, 0.500) (21 points) (5.25 PPG)
T4. Marc Andreyko (1-1, 0.500) (9 points) (4.50 PPG)
T4. ComicBookGirl19 (1-1, 0.500) (9 points) (4.50 PPG)
6. Spencer Gilbert (3-4-1, 0.478) (31 points) (3.88 PPG)
7. Mike Carlson (3-4, 0.429) (29 points) (4.14 PPG)
8. Nick Mundy (3-6-1, 0.350) (41 points) (4.10 PPG)
9. Mark Ellis (1-2, 0.333) (14 points) (4.67 PPG)
10. Jason Inman (1-3, 0.250) (11 points) (2.75 PPG)
11. Hal Rudnick (1-7-1, 0.167) (32 points) (3.56 PPG)
12. Roger Barr (1-6, 0.143) (27 points) (3.86 PPG)
13. Trisha Hershberger (0-2, 0.000) (11 points) (5.50 PPG)
T14. Tiffany Smith (0-1, 0.000) (5 points) (5.00 PPG)
T14. Steve Zaragoza (0-1, 0.000) (5 points) (5.00 PPG)
16. Michael Barryte (0-1, 0.000) (4 points) (4.00 PPG)
17. Andy Signore (0-2, 0.000) (7 points) (3.50 PPG)
18. Kristian Harloff (0-3, 0.000) (9 points) (3.00 PPG)
19. Kassem G (0-1, 0.000) (3 points) (3.00 PPG)
20. Erin Robinson (0-2, 0.000) (5 points) (2.50 PPG)
T21. Alison Haislip (0-1, 0.000) (2 points) (2.00 PPG)
T21. Scott Mantz (0-1, 0.000) (2 points) (2.00 PPG)
T23. Pat Healy (0-1, 0.000) (1 point) (1.00 PPG)
T23. Jovenshire (0-1, 0.000) (1 point) (1.00 PPG)
T23. Matt Raub (0-1, 0.000) (1 point) (1.00 PPG)
*Team fights have been removed from the record
*Screen Junkies have separate records that don't include ties and have removed certain fights, thus, our records may differ.
ashowofhands7 to make it a bit more fair, the record should be based on number of wins rather than win percentage. For example, I think that nick (3 wins and 41 points) deserves a higher ranking than amy and chris (1 win and 6 points each)
Davin Morrison However, Nick has had far more chances to fight. And he has a substantial amount of losses. (6 losses). I think it's more far to go off win percentage because some people have been in only a couple fights whereas the Screen Junkies crew have been in 10+.
CinimaSins won that. CinimaSins pointed out true facts, ScreenJunkies just pointed out one fact or retort and just repeated it every time. Not to mention Birdemic is WAAAY worse than Last Airbender. I don't like Avatar and have never seen it and I could stand the movie.
finally get to see the legend who is the voice of cinimasins.. great video, I would love to see a re match or a speed run with 50 questions
I agree with the Deus Ex Machina, Age of Ultron did that a bunch and especially at the end when Fury came in with the Hellicarrier and transport ships.
Zombeastsqurl That is a good catch when that scene came. I was shocked and disappointed because having an entire city and it's surrounding population die be on the shoulders of the heroes would have been an interesting start off point for civil war. Yay for happy ending (sarcasm)
DarthZann07 Quicksilver died though, and he's not coming back.
DarthZann07 Yeah I feel like the script tried a little too hard to save EVERYONE. I was really hoping when Cap lost control of that car that they would have died, if only for him to have that internal conflict that he can't save everyone. I don't understand how this event is not what sparks Civil War, but whatever.
It was Coulson's Theta Protocol. He found a decommissioned hellicarrier, recruited people, and stockpiling supplies
Name one movie/book where it's not done. It's done to death in everything. I'm a writer, even I shamefully do it! However, I would never bring back a dead character. Bringing back a dead character is the biggest sin.
Nice video ScreenJunkies!! Can you do an everything wrong with Up?
Lol
The irony. Is to much!
Cinema Sins’ pitch for the best vs is literally just death note; the worlds greatest detective trying to catch the worlds greatest serial killer.
the fights Andy is in, are the proof why he should not be the judge as well
I shut my eyes and listened to Jeremy! It was super weird because I hear that voice so much!
He gave a point to Matrix Reloaded over French Connection. *ding
Toughest thing I've ever done in my life. Had to base it off the argument though and not the movie! Thanks for watching! -KH
I still would've gone with Cinemasins, but you were the judge, not me - and you did a great job. It was a blast to watch this one.
schmoesknow You did fantastic, I feel you were generally impartial which means you did a good job.
Spidey did catch it in webbing.
From the trailer.... They did tell that the trailer was out... They were quoting from what they saw in the trailer.
The trailer was not out til 7 months after this was uploaded. You're waay off buddy.
Seriously, people only subscribe to Screen Junkies just for the Honest Trailers.
Both are on cable, "The Godfather" or "Twilight".
Whoever has to pick Twilight can't have an argument. Not even Dan. The Godfather is one of the best movies of all time. Twilight is one of the biggest pieces of shit i have seen
President Erik Cool name.
President Erik I could have an argument because frankly The Godfather bored me to tears... now if you said Godfather 2 then I could be persuaded to thinking "I'm fucked"
President Erik The only argument I can think of is that I've seen The Godfather about 1000000 times, and Twilight can be fun if you have friends around and maybe make a drinking game out of it.....
Everytime they stare, you do a shot. I would be half brain dead at the end of the movie...
Dream Fight. Jeremy from CinemaSins, Jeremy Jahns and Dan the undisputed champ with Kristian as judge, jury and executioner. Pretty please.
A Dyers and Brit Fofana on the dan cam?
A Dyers I would way prefer Chris Stuckmann to Jeremy Jahns
Awesome fight!!! really evenly matched loved it.
God, Chris and Jeremy are such humble guys. Man, what I would give to see a movie with 'em!