Vintage MTB reality: everything wrong with my 1994 S-Works Prestige
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
- Behind the social media veneer lies the harsh truth: the most popular retro MTB on this channel is in fact riddled with faults and fails, some I can fix and some I'll have to live with.
Let's take a closer examination of this 1994 Specialized S-Works Steel superbike with full XTR and plenty of exotic parts. As always I welcome your comments and suggestions... - Sport
This is one of my most favourite bike channels. So cool content! I always drop my activities when I see a new video and I am always satisfied.
Great work, great bikes! Keep it on!
Thanks for watching! Glad to know there are other people out there that are as into this stuff as I am. Plenty more to come…
@@red_dread of you know you're building your very own bike cartel
The cut to the dremel action killed me!
Ha, I’d been planning that killer gag for ages! It was high stakes because unless you have a drawer full of Ringles you only get one take.
Would give 2 thumbs up if possible for the Brügelmann bag alone :D
Anyways, very beautiful bike. I appreciate that you dont tend to modernize those classics but preserve the parts to a sensible degree 🙌🏿
Yes! You are the first person that has spotted that bag - I got a pair from a vintage bike jumble sale, I've never seen that brand in the UK before but anything that comes from the real cycling heartland of Northern Europe is extra cool as far as I'm concerned. I bet Big Jan Ullrich kept his shoes in bags just like these in the 80s.
Hats off for keeping it real with the warts and all rundown ✌️
Looking forward to seeing what comes next.
I keeps it real, 24/7/365. What's next is a real piece of wreckage.
I edited out most of the hard parts with my S-Works restoration, but it was quite difficult! Especially putting modern parts on it.
You can still tell how many hours went into your project! Especially the painting - you really took it to the next level.
I found your channel after scoring a free rocky mountain off Facebook. It has race face cranks which attracted me to it, but when I saw it in person it had full Shimano xtr m900 groupset minus the cranks and seatpost. Feeling very blessed, and I appreciate the history lesson you've given me. Going to respect the shit out of it!
That titanium bell just blew my 06 transit connects 6x9’s. Incredible
Make sure you get the legit Spurcycle ti one and not the Jekyll Rockbros one off Amazon. Having tasted the real thing I will be haunted to my grave by the fake.
Haven't read all the comments so I don't know if there has been any solutions to the brake hood, but I'll give my two cents.
Black silicone Bonding in that pinhole would work lovely, especially if the bike is not going to be ridden hard.
Get a small bit on your finger and smooth it in. Get some glue cleaner on a rag and gentle smooth it over. You'd probably get a result that would be hard to see even under close inspection. I've done this a few times on black weinnman hoods for road bikes.
Lovely - I'll definitely give that a try!
There is a big difference between perfect and works perfectly. Some things don't matter to work perfectly.
Very true - all this really needs is the shifter freeing and some more dependable spoke nipples and then it’ll go forever.
At last your back have missed your great vids and love the elitist content, but for the love of god sort the pink forks out!!!!
I love that colour, but not the fact that it looks like it was sprayed on with a water pistol. It will be remedied one day, sure enough.
That long and low cockpit on my 90’s Stumpjumpers (94 FSR, 96 M2 FS) persuaded me to avoid proper restorations and instead mod them to fit my senior body. Not as cool as OG for sure but they’re living an easier 2nd life as gravel bikes and townies.
I like to have a mixture in my collection for sure - the gravel and town bikes are certainly much nicer to ride and live with, but I still love to have a handful of "proper" restorations that look as extreme, racy and uncomfortable as they were originally intended. I feel cool riding them, but certainly wouldn't do any distance on them!
Love all your content but I can't hold back this rant:
For gummed up shifters, experiment with lubricants. Inox MX3 is by far the best thing I've used (but might only be in Australia) and will completely fix your shifters long term. DO NOT USE WD-40 on your bicycle for anything, it is not a lubricant and encourages rust after it has evaporated. It doesn't work on the shifters because it doesn't interact with the grease in there and once it evaporates it stops working. Use a lanolin for most of the things you would use WD-40 for and be amazed at the difference. Do not use WD-40 branded lanolin, it is also garbage.
Also don't use lanolin on the shifters it is too sticky.
When they build the shifters, do they use any lubricant inside? If you open the shifter, clean it, it might work as new
I take them off. Take the covers off. Flush them out with penetrant. Work each one in until there snappy. Lube them with wurth HHK silicone penetrating grease. I have 6 sets. All were malfunctioning and now work flawlessly.
@@backcenter2 pretty sure they used grease as most of them get gunked up at old age
Rest assured I’d never use WD40 as a lubricant! It will always be a favourite as part of the cleanup process, but in this case there’s no cleaning or lubricant agent that can fix this shifter without taking it apart. Which is fine, I’ll enjoy that.
It always astonished me how the finish and decals of DX hubs are so superior and durable, whereas XT and XTR, the decals would start disappearing at the appearance of a muc off bottle!!
I believe 7 speed XT rapidfires had the same rubber hoods. Think I may have some in a box somewhere....
Quite right - the answer of course is never to get the bike dirty again, so it’ll never need cleaning. As for those rubber hoods, I have all different varieties from Exage to XT and they’re all just different enough to be incompatible. Clever Shimano!
Just got back into the MTB scene. So enjoying your videos. But! Please put those XTR brake pads on the right way. The fronts are arse about face.... Long edge to the rear - think about it. More videos please. Best regards.
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There’s a reason for that. Off camera, those cantis had been mounted on my Pace RC36 fork, where the bosses are reverse-facing. Haven’t decided which bike to keep them on yet, but when I do they’ll be set up depending on the fork.
@@red_dread Now it makes sense.🤣
I bought myself a silverline bench polisher & wire wheel great for alloy components with different grade polishing compounds 👍
I am so tempted to do this. I think it will be a lovely thing to have, and so much nicer than the current Dremel or drill attachments I use.
@@red_dread have you tried 1000 grit wet & dry or 800 grit with autosolve chrome polish & wire wool, that gives good results 👍
I believe a fiber wheel would be more gentle than a wire wheel. Have you tried fiber wheels? What's been your experience? After using fiber wheels I have rarely had a need to use sand paper.
@@vintagebikewurx3730 I watch the CZcams channel old shovel, he uses a bench polisher but I don’t know what product he uses with it
Perhaps for the rust spots you could try a drop of "owatrol". It's a kind of oil but somehow dries to something resembling a clear-coat finish and is antithetical to rust. So in theory it would be almost invisible while preserving the existing level of patination in aspic.
Thanks, I'll look that up. The current stuff I have is messy and leaves a nasty grey residue so any improvement on that is worth having.
Did I see a crack on that left XTR shifter (on the top half)? 😱
Fear not - it's just the gap where the two halves of the clamshell-style casing meet. The harsh lighting doesn't help, makes the whole bike look even more ragged than it actually is.
You can repair the rubber hood with a product called "Sugru". A kind of plasticine that turns into rubber. Available in black. Remarkable stuff.
I did think of that - Garys Projects has even used that stuff to fill scuffs on a Turbo saddle, looked effective enough. Will give that a try, thanks.
A fiber wheel then a polishing wheel on a bench or multi speed angle grinder would make short work of those seat post scratches. Or any scratches on aluminum components. Carnuba wax keeps the parts from oxidizing. A chrome like polished finish in minutes.
Thanks for the tip on Carnuba wax, will definitely do that. The problem here is I don’t want a mirror finish - I want to somehow restore the satin finish, which the manufacturer achieved by milling the seatpost in tiny ridges. No idea how to reproduce that, but the polishing wheel will certainly sort out the worst of those awful gouges at least.
After the fiber wheel the amount of polish is controlled by the grit of the compound used and time spent polishing. You might prefer the finish left by the fiber wheel alone. Compound bar kits have 4 different grits. The white bar a mirror finish. The red bar a satin finish. Work your way up to the finish you want. It really is the best solution for diy old parts restoration without having things professionally done.
Beautiful Bike from nature... When a bike like yours is waiting outside my door to go on an adventure with me, then I would be a really happy woman and above all grateful! I really like your Videos, but this one sounds too dramatic and disproportionate to our present, where people are starving, have no water, are even dying. We have a lot, including many unused things.We should be lucky to born into this country (civilisation), which has a lot to offer us. This is by no means a given. So, let's be more humble and grateful for that! In this video I can't find anything about,how grateful we should be for such a great bike. Appreciation - yes, appreciation is the essence that was missing here. Thank you for charing your restoration-projekts with us. PS: Mostly I'm your fan ;) best wishes, your Juli
I have some of those rubber hoods on my broken muddy fox xt leavers! At least they aren’t totally worthless
Never bin any XT, broken or not! Sorry to say however, there’s incompatible differences between XT and XTR lever hoods. XTR are softer rubber and a different shape.
@@red_dread the hunt is on for new shifter pod. As a true northerner nothing gets binned
been watching for days now...watched a few last year but retro MTB is getting even more poular so im back. is there an instragram i can follow?
excellent bike & i enjoyed the humour!
Hi, I do have an Instagram but it's not retro bike related so I don't link it so as not to disappoint my CZcams subscribers. It's just the very occasional family holiday snaps which nobody really wants to see! Glad you're following on CZcams though, thanks for watching and stay tuned for more coming soon.
So red dread looks like you like nice bike l have 1993 Specializes Ultimate S-Work with all Shamano XTR components completely all around this mountain bike. Only thing is I add in is Easton Monkey Lite with 3/4" raise handle bar. Everything is for sale. I didn't like the ride it's a racing bike, it's not comfortable. It's very lite in weight, and everything is original since 1993. Looking for a new home, this bike is made in Mission Hill California.
Well if you're in the UK I'd recommend Retrobike.co.uk, which has a buy/sell section. That's the best way to share it with connoisseurs - and good luck finding a home for it.
I'd take it closer to period racing spec if possible. Number one would be the forks, would look great chromed
Would love to - I'm still half tempted to source a period RockShox Judy FSX at some point, then the Pace can go onto one of my other builds where it might look a little less incongruous. I suspect this project will never be truly complete.
Loving your vids sir as an old school mtb fan. I do wonder if you should be looking for a bigger frame to swap that shiny kit to :)
You're not wrong. I look like a circus bear riding most of my collection, always did. Of course the answer back in the day was just to compensate with an ultra-long stem and ultra-long seatpost, which did look extreme and therefore cool, but in retrospect no good for my posture.
Have you got the Stumpjumper anniversary book produced by specialised . If not send me an email and I will post to you as no longer have a stumpy myself ..
@@spacemanonemillion2500 That's a very kind offer, thanks - I do have it, I think I paid 50p for it at the Manchester Velodrome cycle jumble!
No worries. Loving your content. Early marins are my favourite vintage bikes, as I started riding on an Eldridge grade back in the day.
The scratches on the seatpost might come out with a green or dark red scotchbrite pad. But perhaps experiment first on another post in case it makes a mess of it.
That's pretty much my next plan - I'd rather have a uniform satin finish than a gouged shiny one.
@@red_dread I guess the thing to do actually is to try on the bottom of the actual post first. If it looks terrible well that part is inserted into the frame anyway.
Okay. I will start with an observation and not a complaint. Clearly dents and patina are fine for frames but not for components. Can...worms...opened. Carrying on, since I don't know the history of bikes very well, I am sincerely wondering, why, aside from esthetics, there is a rigid fork on this bike. (Don't count those commas) I have commented on your channel, long ago. I came across a Specialized Stumpjumper with a "Future Shock" fork. Why would that fork not be better suited to this bike? It is a lovely looking fork... brushed aluminium....strange air valve....suspect engineering...right up your alley! If it is period correct, and doesn't dent your affinity for the Pace forks, I would happily remove it from this lowly Stumpjumper and send it across the ocean. Apologies for the slightly adversarial bent. The offer is sincere. I run a home bike shop (In Calgary, Alberta) dedicated to giving away bikes to kids for free. Your humour, and passion for an unsung niche in cycling history, are greatly appreciated.
@codysbikes
Good question about the fork. I believe this bike would have been available with the option of either rigid or a Specialized/Rockshox Judy FSX back in 94, neither of which was with it by the time it came to me. So my options were basically to find a fork for it that was worthy of its dignity - and a period correct suspension fork would have been expensive! So that was my reasoning really. I am very interested to see your FutureShock fork though, if you still have it? Can you send pics to oliver.chesher@yahoo.co.uk?
So those grips are definitely a dog's breakfast
My car is nowhere near as nice as yours, but I do have aftermarket rims, and fortunately with off-road tires there is no chance I can scratch the rims on the curb
Thankfully I mainly use a Land Rover - just like you I find it preferable when I keep clattering into things. I suspect these AMG wheels aren’t going to simply buff out and once again I’ll have learned an ugly lesson!
I actually know a guy who's selling the original forks for this same bike
Hello dear man, missed the bike porn.
Can you swap the brake covers round?
I’m always brewing something… Unfortunately those hoods are asymmetrical and XTR-specific, designed to cause maximum inconvenience. To be fair though, you can tell the difference between these and XT even with eyes closed. Soft, satin to the touch, maybe worth a hundred quid for a spare set?
@@red_dread Ah, sorry mate, I meant swap left to right, not swap for XT. If they are symmetrical then the hole would be underneath. Or am I getting confused? ;-)
@@badger67 unfortunately the asymmetric design means they’re left and right hand specific - so that hole stays where it is.
@@red_dread 😕
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why are you jet washing your bikes dude, you're blasting all the paint off them
It’s definitely possible (with the right equipment, technique and care) to jet wash a bike very effectively. However you are completely correct: all too often I go at it like a gorilla, hence so much of my bikes’ destruction is entirely my own fault.
Stop being elitist dude.
I am The Elite. I cannot be stopped
The elitism is mixed with a healthy dose of humility if you've been paying attention. Love it!
@@red_dread lool
@@vintagebikewurx3730 I'm a retro biker myself...