How to make a Fuller - Forge/Grind/Mill/Scrape - Your Edge
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
- In this Your Edge episode we show you the many different ways to create a fuller in your knife or sword blade. Whether it's forging , grinding , milling or scraping you can learn it all and it this skill to your bladesmithing tool bag.
Tools Used - Horizontal Mill - Spring Swage - Bader B3 Variable Speed Grinder - Drill Press - Hand Scraper
Thanks to Gater over at / blackbeardprojects for letting us use his technique in this video.
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Videos Shot, Produced and edited by - Matt Stagmer
Co-producer Ilya Alekseyev
Machinist - Kerry Stagmer
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Thanks a lot for the shoutout guys! So cool to see all these different techniques. Great work putting all this together!
Is this how you get your blacksmithing skills?!?! I am a big fan
I absolutely love the format of this video
thank you
Best blade fullering video on youtube, hand down :)
Loving the new channel lads. MaA:R was cool, but the format was getting stale and this is way more useful to us beginners! Good luck to ya's!
Excellent information! Thanks for helping give the community an edge in their craft!
I wish I had this video a few weeks ago. Ground in a fuller with a rotary tool and it ended up about as straight as you would imagine. Using some scrap barstock as a guide along with a grinder would have saved me so much effort!!! Good thing that was the learning blade and will use your idea on the next one! Thank you!!
i did some free handing with a grinder, not that i didnt know about using a guide, but the blade was curved, so we cant always rely on guides
This new series is awesome
Great Video! I didn't realize that aspect of creating a fuller in order to prevent setting on a bend. Great Stuff!
Had no idea how to make a fuller besides using a grinder, searched for how to make one, this video came first in the results. So glad I found it, excellent detailed video!
Regardless of whether or not reforged comes back, I hope this channel continues, the content is killer!
Thank you! It will!
Ilya mesmerises me and Matt is fabulous, this is the best series on CZcams, love from Scotland. Keep it going lads. X
This is so awesome. I love to see how things like this are made :D
The guys of man at arms cool nice to see another channel from you all :-)
Gotta love how well the 1812 overture goes with ilya's explanation )
I've been following you guys for years and I love the educational and information based content that is getting geared up here. The only thing I will say is I don't think the background music is necessary for 90% of it. The shop noises and sound and what you all are saying is fantastic and I don't want it to come off wrong. Just a random comment from an internet stranger that likes your work.
Very useful vid! Thank You! I've been trying to work out how to do a fuller with the limited range of tools I have available, and the drill press technique is ideal!
Again a great video. thank you.
Great video. Very informative. I like that you covered multiple methods to achieve the same goal.
Video on how to avoid/prevent fishmouth/birds beak when forging blade tip
Great video! Please continue with more.
Great video, very informative and fun. Now I know function and making of fullers!
This is awesome always wanted to see you guys do a informational teaching channel. Keep the videos coming loving this
Another great video, boys!
I learned a lot - thanks!!
Thanks for this video. Awsome thank you.
Great video guys. I am so glad I found this channel. You'll rock! I resently had a wheel made just like your "knife wheel". It's awesome!
This video is a treasure trove of information!!! Awesome and well done!!
I love the Ilya lessons
Герои и Злодеи!)) шарфик хорош)
КиШ вечен!
this video saved my project, thanks guys
This came up on my feed again, and is still the best video on fullers so I had to watch it agian. Still, every time I utilize a fuller the blade tends to be sharper and easier to bevel especially the the dreaded double edge dagger. I'd really like to mention since I always include fullers in my blades now: I've experimented with putting a hamon down the middle of blades. as well as both the spine and or a reverse hamon so it looks like the hamons are clashing. It works great and gives the blade a very unique look If anyone is looking for something different and more artistic to try out.
Great Video, it helped me a lot! Currently planing a cutlass build
i like the style of these videos
Lots of info thank you
Just ordered a 75$ fullering tool from Blacksmith's depot so i am glad this video came out. I made one myself before but honestly screwed it up so i bought on thats pro made and high quality and what not and will make my own again later.
I agree with matts assessment on learning to do things. Better to learn the hard way to do something first then do the easy way.
Thanks! Be sure to let us know how the fullering goes once you get your tool!
Hello, I forged a scraper today but I'm not sure what angle to grind it. Do you have information about the good angle to grind efficiently?
so good ! great work
Very cool series!
thanks for these!
very informative.
brilliant. i had no idea that fuller grooves were removed by abrasion or cutting. i thought they were all forged. I thank you for your excellent education skills
Glad to see you guys again. Was wondering what happened when the Man at Arms stopped with new episodes.
Subscribed and glad to see you guys at the grind!
Enjoyed your video and Thumbs Up as well
Very interesting.
What a great video, really like that.
SurvivalAustria
from Russia with respect to your work !!! Молодцы! Удачи вам! Ждем нового выпуска. Поставьте спонсора
The vidioes are awesome !!!
you are the best
Also if you want to burnish a fuller then I find ball bearings work wonderfully personally I use tapered pin bearings because I had to replace the bearings in the head of my drill Mill. Yes I did bring them back up to a mirror polish and then I reset the temper on the bearings to 73 Rockwell C scale. Then I built a brass housing that looks like a spokeshave except extra white of course we are talking about putting a mirror finish on the bottom of pullers which means the blade is sharp enough even when it is resting on a scraping Timber. Having a properly inlaid scraping Timber is very valuable it keeps your knuckles with leather over the top of them.
That's another thing you only do once in your life. I now have three Knuckles that will never get tan.
Really enjoyed this and the long video format. I
I really like these videos and I think you should do a forge welding one, many beginning smiths have a lot of trouble with that, also, I was making Damascus today and it’s on the brain
Great video! The only bad thing is i usually see you using a grinder without the guard and i think is really dangerous.
I want to know more about tempering and clay tempering and how you can calculate the cover of the clay (a quarter of the blade or a half or wath). Really thanks for make this kind of videos!
Just sub @34k i didn't know you have chanel.. Now it's my new fav chanel..
I have a feeling that this will be the most important channel on CZcams. Keep up the good work!!
You are far too kind, but I hope that you are right!
Really glad you started your own thing. Just hope all the subs from awe me come here
I hope so too! Feel free to help them out and share their channel! Thanks for stopping by =)
@@CannonDollX I sure did and do. Gladly people like Jimmy Diresta are talking about it too so that's gonna help a lot.
have to make a spring fuller, thanks for the tips
No problem!
Thanks I going to make one for knife making to help draw out the blade
Организованная помощь от русских фанатов тому кто может это прочитать (это Илья но и Мэта мы тоже любим и поддерживаем.) Быстрого вам развития парни мы за вас болеем!
vodka putin :)
Gamers & Geeks alum here to say you guys ARE bad ass!
Thanks Mia! You rock!
Thank you guys!
Btw I do often think of myself as milling machine :)
Awesome content guys. Would you guys do a video about all the different metals you use or types of metals? Thanks.
БЫло интересно. Спасибо!
I really like how your fullers aren't run down past the shoulders and onto the tang. Thinning it like that right there makes for a weak point just asking for the blade to snap off
The drill press fullers just changed my life...
Great video! Enjoyed watching it. Can You do more stuff about Japanese swords? I'd like to see something about the hamon clay layout.
I'm your newest subscriber cause of this. And this was my first video of yours!
Robert Lombardo excellent! The Your Edge series means a lot to us. It’s not just a look what I can do video but a look what you can do video as well!
I'd love to see you do an in depth series on all the parts making a Japanese sword. Eg the tsuba etc please
What I would love to see is the making of a "modern Japanese sword" using all the techniques and types of metal that came later that would improve the Japanese sword
I really appreciate the time and effort you put into your content. I see a reforged test from Altair's blade will you be doing more reforged in the future
we sure hope so!
Оооо)) Наконец-то увидел свой шарфик, который подарил Илье) Носи с удовольствием и радуй русскоязычных подписчиков!)
I this video very interesting.
I would love to see a video on making engraving cutters/chisels e thinggys (i forget the proper term) as i have been interested in teaching myself this skill and have a good book however i am not sure on just what the geometry of the tools should optimally be and just what the heat treating should be. i have mad a few tiny W2 chisels for doing some custom panel lining on the models in my picture
There is another option if you do not want to go freehand. I have a grinding backer plate with three pulleys and a small belt that I borrowed from a hand sander. My table already had a channel in it for keynuts, do I build a backer plate that I could lock in to that channel and drilled six holes into the backer plate to hold my small pulleys. The three holes on the top are slotted horizontally and the three holes on the bottom are slotted vertically, in the backer plate itself is mounted on four guide rods one in each corner. The guide rods go through a backup plate frame and our spring loaded from the back so it's to hold the back of plate against the frame, and then attached a large block to the back which I use as a Plunge button. I will draw my lines where I want to cut in my folder and then set up with the grinding belt turned off. This way I can get the positioning of the grind as precise as possible and be able to readjust the blade blank with the grinder on simply by keeping it against the backer plate and when I want to grind I simply apply pressure to the plunging button. The three wheels and the belt I have set up so that on a curved surface I have my choice of writing against one pulley two pulleys or between two pulleys on the Belt. For straight grinds I simply attach a backing bar. True transitions are still difficult however with a little bit of practice I find that it is not so difficult to complete a transition between pulleys on the Belt. However if you trust your hand rotary tool more by all means. The other way to deal with complicated transitions is to get into epoxy casting, like your friend who's using the drill press. Using a Sharpie to apply appropriate layout lines and angling lines for grinding as well as shaping the outside Edge of the epoxy, can give you what other people can only describe as magical results. However this table does not work without the plunging button and those four guide posts. Major warning for people who have never built tools before those guideposts cannot be sloppy so use the largest diameter drill rod possible for your table and Mill that frame to ensure that everything slides smoothly with minimal slop.
LoL, I wasn't going to comment, until I heard the aiming a rifle comment. I keep both eyes open when shooting. Learning to focus with a dominant eye is a skill that takes time, so I understand what was meant. It just made me laugh.
its hard for me to forge one in straight and even havent tried grinding or scraping thanks for sharing .
8:40 perfect grinding stance.
Is Ilya a wizard? Great history/info. I love the freehand grinding Matt, I concur that if you can do it freehand it's better. I also think it will save you time in the long run.
You can make a knife edge wheel by placing your stock piece on a drill press then grinding it out with a regular angle grinder, slowly, as to not heat it too much. Done it, finished in half an hour.
I like this channel a lot. Entertaining but not as theatrical. Just the guys showing how they do what they do
Wow.
Do you think you guys could show how to make a scraper please? Brilliant video!
For the next episode best way to make a hot cut tool
so i don't have a belt grinder or such but i do have an angle grinder with plenty of very worn grinding disks
a trick i learnt is to use very worn and small grinding disks on a very acute angle to grind in fullers. they're rough and it's easy to slip but it works
how have 22,000 people watched this and not given it a like???
pound that like button!
Thank you so much guys. Is there any way to make the fuller look like the point of the sword or knife?
What grit polish and angle do you give your fuller scrapers?
You should do a segment just on craftsman fabricated tools.
Great informative video! Did you make the Knife edge grinding wheel or did you buy it and turn it down to that shape? Looking forward to viewing more of your content!
Very informative video as always, also congrats to over 12 000 subs, also could you make an episode for forging bevels?
Thank you! We certainly will do a bevel forging video real soon!
Good luck from Ukraine. And good channel development👍🤘
So good been looking for something like this, I don't have a grinder like that, my belt is 100 mm is there a way to grind fullers with a belt that wide?
Привет от TWG и успехов Илье и Мэту )))
Hey, do you guys have any tips when working with bloom steel, like how much material do you normally expect to lose when consolidating it and how to tell if the pieces that fall off when consolidating is steel or slag?
Can you do a general episode on handle/guard/pommel design?
Awesome video!
I suggested something like this a while ago, when you asked what people would like to see.
And boy o'
you did a damn good job!
A little follow up question.
What grit sandpaper would you recommend when rough grinding the fuller?
36-50 somewhere around there
Will you ever do any episodes in your old man at arms way? I miss your builds. Either way, good luck. You guys rock.
I'd like to add a note to the engineering aspects of sword fullers. The theory of "reduces the weight while barely compromising the strength".. is somewhat correct, however, a fuller can actually reduce weight while IMPROVING the structural integrity of a blade. Think about the design of bridges and archways. You could take 1/16" flat stock and bend it very easily, but if you changed the shape of it to be half round, it would be much more difficult to bend...
I could be missing something about my theory and be wrong though, haha, so I welcome any corrections to it. Just thought I'd add it in there. Its the theory I've always operated under.
i just found this channel! are you stopping mat at arms?? the vides here are different but still awesome!!! cool channel!!
Would hot filed edges look the same as cold filed edges? If hot filed, they may still be fairly hard, correct?
Is there any value to creating a fuller during the forge process and then heat treating vs fuller after heat treating?
In the edge bevelling video it was explained how pinching is bad for the internal grain of the steel atleast in ancient steels, would this mean forging in the bevels with those steels would cause the same problem, or does the fullering tool work more like the proper bevelling technique ?
Also, can you guys please do a video about sanding?
What anvil do you recommend for sword and knife making? I see you use a Nimba anvil sometimes - is this your favorite?
I haven't seen an episode where you discuss case hardening. Many of my old books describe the techniques, but not as much was said about when it is most appropriate. Is it best just for rifflers and such or it there more use to this hardening method?