Horses that Bite - How to Fix Anything With Horses presented by Elite Horsemanship
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2017
- New series on how to fix anything with horses. How to fix horses that bite. Make sure to subscribe and follow us on / elite_horsemanship
At Elite Horsemanship, we are passionate about improving the relationship (on the ground and under saddle) between each horse and their riders. We do this by focusing on the way a horse thinks, the way they learn, and what makes them tick. Having this knowledge, backed with a few simple groundwork and riding skills, we aim to show the general equestrian public how to fix any issue they may be facing with their horse.
This video is focused on horses that bite their human partners..... It is a very common issue and one that has been highly misconceived as a horse being bad. We talk about the 3 different types of biting:
1. Playful
2. Defensive
3. Aggressive
We explain the reason why horses bite and some simple techniques to help you fix this issue yourself once and for all so that your horse either starts to respect your space or starts to trust you more and does not feel the need to protect itself and bite in self defense.
We hope that the information presented in this video serves you well and that you find value in the time you have spent watching this.
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Until next time. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
This is great! I have a 3 year old who has this playful biting problem, and after this, I was able to get him to respect me. he would barely be able to walk with a halter and lead because he would get too close and bite clothes, but after this he just started respecting and is a much easier horse to handle. Thanks!
Don't follow this advice! It's old school, and has nothing to do with horse psychology. So, why troubles he this horse, it doesn't do anything wrong? Maybe? - he is not able to correct a horse, that makes really trouble? It's fake.
Don't hurt your horse! Never!
why is this reply pinned?!
Same
@@mantisamygdala he's not even touching the horse.
I got the same problem, but mine is 19 years old
I don’t do anything that has to do with horses, but I watched this whole thing.
LOL same
I love that there’s no hitting or abuse, awesome. I’m gonna try this today
I worked with a rescued appy that had been gelded after being labeled too aggressive after he had been used for breeding til he was 10. He was donated to an organization that taught handicapped kids to ride for therapy. They'd been holding nails in their hands when leading him!! I spent about 1 hour in a box stall making him move every time he got nippy after that we were besties. He ended up being my all time favorite horse that I've ever worked with. I could trail ride him bareback with a halter and he became a great lesson horse.
Well done!!
Awesome!! Thank you for writing a really positive experience!!👍👍👍
I have been doing this for years without actual taught, now that I know the reasoning behind it, it makes a lot of sense!
so pleased you found it useful
Awesome brilliant explanation in a very short video. Massive thx !
You’re welcome!
I’ve been working with a 2 year old filly that bites and kicks and this really helped me
I like this guy lol he's making me feel like I can be more confident around horses
This is the first time I have heard of this guy or seen a video of his. He is a horseman.
He understands horses.
It is also the first time I have seen this guy. He knows what he is talking about. I will be watching more of him. I believe if you are kind but firm then you get more out of your horse, there is no need for hitting, their are others ways with pressure and release which works much better. Trust goes a long way.
@@missbonniedee yes no need for hitting but he is not really hurting the horse and he is just using an example. I never saw him beating his horse.
you can see by the horses face and expression he trusts this guy and the guy understands him.
Brilliant!!!!
would love to see this with a horse that actually bites.
I love the Parelli influence here...considering the psychology of the horse. Good job sir and thank YOU for making the world a better place for horses.
Woww when you were throwing the whip around and your horse was totally relaxed that showed me that you are a good horseman and really the horse doesn’t fear you he respects you. Love it
Thank you.
Having just had a beginning riding class where the very first thing the horse nipped me, this is really great. I was looking for how the person introducing me to horse care would handle being nipped. When they did NOTHING I was really baffled...was this nipping behavior just endured? I knew THAT couldn't be correct.
THIS gives me substantial actions to engage the horse so that it can't think about continuing biting yet works toward showing that you as the rider are in control, not the horse.
Frankly, after witnessing how the other person did nothing, I thought I might not continue taking the class. If they couldn't stop the horse's bad behavior, how could I? This shows me that to cause the horse to move backward engages the horse's mind so that they're influenced to feel you're the dominent one without abuse. Thank you so much! After all increasing fear in this world, whether fear in the rider or the horse isn't enjoyable for either party. Much better to show who's in control by thoughtful application of behavior modification.
The fact they didn’t correct the biting is a red flag. Correction MUST be within 3 seconds or it’s not effective. Backing a horse up everytime they are even THINKING about biting you ( pinned ears and loading its weight to the front )will soon make them think maybe it’s not a good idea because it’s going to cause them more pressure. You move their feet then you become Alfa. Imagine pinning your ears and owning their space and they will move. Also no eye- balling. Don’t make it personal. Concentrate on their feet.
What a fabulous video for all level of trainers...very impressive, a lovely relaxed manner you have and an excellent way of explaining the method and theory of the situation...i have been training horses naturally for 30 plus years and still learn new ways constantly, thank you
I hope the readers understand the the level 4 correction of hitting the rope IS a physical correction. Hitting the rope pulls the rope, the horse feels it. Physical corrections ARE needed in training, regardless if they are sugar coated by hitting the rope. I typically only need sound of the whip pop. But some people believe ANY physical correction is "violent" or "cruel". No. They are necessary, and to be used by trained people, with a plan and purpose. Know the difference between physical correction and abuse. Stop lumping the two together. Good video btw.
This is one of the best equestrian videos on CZcams. A very sincere thank you for making it!😃
You can tell his horse has great respect for him and is not afraid of these demonstrations. I used a similar technic on a horse that was aggressive when I got him and now use him for demonstrating also. Best horse I ever had.
There was one horse in riding school I'll never forget. His name was Rex. He never bit me but he had a thing about grabbing one of my coat buttons, flattening it but not pulling it off and then lifting his lip like he was laughing at me. And he loved to step on my foot. He wouldn't get off no matter how hard I pushed until I asked politely for him to get off my foot and a light push got him off. I'd say hello to Rex and he's slam me with his nose. I loved that horse. He knew I needed more time to get on him as short as I am and he'd stand and wait. Other people he'd start moving and it took them so long to get on him. When I see videos of horses I think fondly of Rex. If he ever bit anyone he never bit me. But he sure liked to flatten my coat buttons!
Excellent video! Thank you for such straightforward, no bs explanations! Please do more
I have a 2 1/2 year old friesian percheron cross. I had issues a couple wks ago over him pushing by me to get in his stall for his hay. I brought him immediately out and backed him up big time down the barn isle and he got it..he respected me he waited. It really works. You don't have to beat your horse to get respect. I also longe him like when he wouldn't give me his ft to clean and he changed his attitude.
I have been a loss to stop my horse from biting and this has been helping me a lot. 😁😁
I like this Guy he talks sense. I have been doing exactly what he just demonstrated with my horse. He was biting, I kept attracting his attention to something else while all the time backing him up everytime he tried to bite or wasn't listening to my commands or paying attention to me. Now he is terrific and and improving each day. It only takes a little while each day even a few times a day. Just Small steps .
Perfect . Keep it up
Excellent video, we're dealing with an 8 year old Canadian that the previous owner spoiled. I've been riding for 40 years and this is exactly what needs to be done with our spoiled 1100 lb "boss". I can see through his body language that he thinks he's dominant, thanks for the refresher.
This is helpful, thank you. I have a yearling filly who has recently been testing boundaries. I've tried a few things (no hitting, ever, though) and will now also try backing her up when she gets nippy. The Arabian in the video is beautiful, btw.
Thank you.
I have an aggressive yearling, and this demonstration makes me feel like I can have the confidence to correct it.
Wow. Great video. Love the way you handle that horse.
Thanks +ShadowDancer
This is so helpful! I’ve been tapping my horse on her nose and I can’t believe the progress she made in such i short amount of time
I work on a farm in Kentucky I have two Mares that attempted to bite me when I'm grooming them down. This looks good I'm going to try it out when I do it again today.
Good video. I’ll work on this situation tomorrow.
4 type, when horse mistakes your hands for food.
Lol true
mmm carrots
🤣😂😅yeap
BTW, only stupid horse do that. Smart one touch your hand with lips, and then turn away, or begin to lick it.
Yup. Mine bites my clothes for some reason and attempted to eat my phone
Wow very good I've got a Shetland pony and he always nippled on me when I wanted to get him out of the box and after 2 days he stopped that thanks😊
The Secret Dancers Flex Fit brilliant. Thanks for letting us know.
Everything is about understandin the horses natural behaviours. So many people want to ride like professionals, but don't want to really learn about the basics. Thats sad and unfair 😑 I Like the way you explain all that stuff ❤
Val Ry well said my friend. 👍
"Unfair???" You thought life was supposed to be "fair???"
ROTFL! Bwahahaha! Now that's hilarious!!!
Thank you wonderful video, explained v well.
U solved my problem 😃. Thanks a lot.
Great Great job i learned alot from your video. Thanks
Great video!
Fantastic tips! Much obliged
You’re welcome
Beautiful Boy 🦄 very helpful thank you for posting 🙌🏼
Thank you! You have really helped me a lot !!!
my pleasure.
Fantastic! Thank you! 🎄🥂
Best video on this problem
I'll have to use this for my boy Wick. He is around 20 and was owned by an abusive family. I've gotten him so quiet these past few months but the biting is still there if I'm trying to ground mount or if im moving him from a place he was grazing. But he has gone from kicking, rearing, charging, biting and pushing to just every now and again nips. He is a lot better spookiness now. I just ponied him next to my SxS RZR that is very loud and bright and has lots of things to spook at but he was so trusting that we walked for about a half mile yesterday and he was chill the whole time
Great advice
Could hear what you are saying better without the music.
Thanks. Message received.
Awesome explanation!
Thank you
Thank you. Very helpfull
This is a great easy to understand video. Would you suggest this for a cinch you horse or know that is sour about being tacked up?
Thank you 🙏❤🐴 so much I have one that gets pushy I'll work with your ideas
This trainer makes total sense to me! Wonderful!
Thank you 🙏🙏🙏🙏
My horse is 18 and just recently started biting me playfully, but constantly. Can’t wait to try this!
Unapologetically Nikki how did it work?
American Horse it didn’t 😫
😂😂😂 it felt your energy!!!
@@elitehorsemanship8765 he’s an old ex racehorse lol his energy is chaotic enough on it’s own 😅
Thank you So much!
great video
Great stuff here.
Amazing trainer and horse 🤩
Excellent discussion and video of these concepts. Only a few horse people understand these concepts and know how to put them into practice like you do. Well done.
What is the type of lead line that you are using? Is it sail line?
Yes sir! The best to use.
Thank you!
Please make more videos!!!
Very nice !... I will try this !
Thanks. ☺️
This is all nice but... The method should be demonstrated on a horse that actually bites. This arabian isn't doing anything wrong and he doesn't understand why is he getting all this disciplining from the human. And of course he doesn't bite the human after backing up, because he wasn't biting before! But please show a horse that was biting, and then it stops biting after backing up.
aikitbliambanu completely agree!
aikitbliambanu yeah this poor horse is getting punished for nothing. I don’t like this to me it’s abusive. Fine if he’s actually biting or kicking but not for no reason. So confusing for the horse
I'm guessing you are a person who wants everybody to do things the way you would. You don't realize that you have no clue what you are talking about--it doesn't matter. It indicates a lack of respect for the individuality of others. I'm responding because you put your criticism on the trainer, and I'm putting it back on you. He knows what he's doing.
I am not criticising the trainer or the method - I am criticising the way of demonstrating the method. I'm sure he knows what he is doing and the method probably works. It is the demonstration that could be improved. If a teacher wants to show how to make a statue from ice, he would get a block of ice to show it, not a block of clay. If a trainer wants to show how to deal with a biting horse, he needs to find a biting horse for the demonstration, not a horse with no vices. This video was not the only one on the biting subject, there were others, and people were showing actually biting horses. Here is an example of a good demonstration: czcams.com/video/T6hdRLEsaRY/video.html - an actually mouthy horse in the video. Now a little bit about "respect" which you mentioned. In your opinion, I would show "respect for individuality" if I didn't criticise the video? Well, if I was watching some creative art, the purpose of which is to express individuality, then I won't criticise it. But this is an educational video, the purpose of which is to teach. If the video doesn't teach well, the trainer may actually benefit from the criticism and improve his future videos, and get more viewers because of that. I don't comment on every video on CZcams, in fact I only comment when I think that my comment can be useful to the author or to the others watching. Criticism does not equal "evil", dear Elizabeth Staeheli.
Okay....
Nice. Thanks. What about horses biting before your even halter them? How do u halter them?
Thank you.
That is a very good natured horse haha! Thank you for this video
Excellent
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS ADVISE, I’m going to try it from now on. I have a rude 4 year old stallion :)
How do you put a halter on such horse? Thanks!!
Awesome looking boy! The horse is pretty, too!
My horse is a 12 year old connemara. He likes to bite other horses that are near him, chase them and pin his ears back when they go past him, he also bites when there is feed around. I don't what it means?
I have dealt with defense biting more than I care to count because I used to be a rescuer. Every time they have bit, they bite then run. Never was out of wanting to be mean. They was just scared. They never stayed and attacked. The most fearful horses I received was from the Amish. I always tried to teach my space and to keep butt away from me as 1st steps. I miss having land to use for rescue. I unfortunately had to move to the city. People, please work the tools and whips around them a little at a time. Don't immediately go out and whip the ground next to your horse. I am a big believer in knowing how to train a horse before owning one. I also had several horses gave up to me or dumped in a park because the horse was smarter than it's owner.
Great advice 🙏
Very nice! I liked this a lot, I agree 100. I always get so upset when I see recommendations to smack the horse. The worse I saw was hold a needle in between your fingers and poke them with needle when they go to bite. I will be sharing this video!
cowg bootz thanks for the comment. And yes the typical solution is to just hit the horse. And believe me, if that would work I would do it. But it doesn't. And ouch!!!! A needle?!!
Elite Horsemanship yes! A needle or a pin people were suggestion on a fb group!
maybe share this video with them!! However just to clarify, I do not like to criticize anybody because I believe that everybody tries to do the best they can and every action has a positive intention, so people try whatever they can to help the horse to understand that it should stop biting. They will choose the best option that they have, so sharing this video will help those that have tried everything and have resorted to the good old 'whacking to punish' method, to have an additional option which will actually work.
Oh my gosh
Hey i just acquired two thouroghbreed mares and they really dont like the lead and brush i noticed you talked about de sanitizing them to your tools what would be the best way in doing so also really like the video and your methods definitely going to attempt this with the younger mare to stop the nibbling thank you!!!
Best way is to have your tools ready during your groundwork session. Move them and do some work, then rest them and use the tools, if they act up, ok, back to work for a little longer and repeat…… 🙏
I cannot wait to try this tomorrow with our horse. My horse has been nipping now BITING at me ALL WEEK! Can’t wait to see if this works!
How did it go?????
I recently bought a wonderful 9 month old pinto lusitano stallion!
He's a gorgeous baby and has an amazing character, but he's awfully mouthy...
(In a playful manner)
I'm looking forward to trying out this method soon!
Let's see how it goes :")
Very good tip for horses who bite. Desentise is a key with all horses Thank you very much for the lesson. 😁👌🏻
I 'll try with a thoroughbred mare (5 years old) who was a race horse and bites rather often. Not myself, strangely. We have a kind of bond, since we met. I put off her halter one day she put it till an eye, eating crazy with a too short rope. That was the moment she could have bitten me badly but she was so grateful I made her rid of it! We started to really meet. She loved my caresses. Now she loves my apples too.. Not the same thing. She 's older, one year later. Unfortunately I fell two times when riding her. I used to be a good rider in my young years. Now my balance is not very good. Bad knees. She was never guilty, some riders fear her. I do not understand. Some are silly jealous, girls riders !!! 😅😅
Anyway the last time I saw her, she was unhappy with me, standing in front of her with another rider. She nipped me, not very strongly. I showed her my finger saying NO. She stepped back. All went ok.
Later I was again in her stall to say good bye and she did not looked at me, only eating. I took this as a proof of confidence, that she knew it was me. I caressed her neck tenderly and she did not stopped eating too. I most of the time speak to her with a soft voice. She 's a stressed, nervous horse and I don't know what happened to her during her race horse career...
I fear she was hurt mentally and physically unfortunately.
I love her a lot but with health issues I can not go horse riding or simply go walking at the moment. I cross fingers that it will go better soon.🤞🏻😉🐎💓
Thanks for the college I'm trying to handle a Stud/Stallion and I'm trying to get to listen to me so he doesn't get too nippy this is a good example. 🙏🐴🏆👏
I have an Andalusian (actually Azteca) gelding, who is very dominant with people (broke my toe when I was leading him, because he gets so close), and was very mouthy. We had him to one trainer who quit on us. He said he never rode him, because he was unpredictable--but the horse hated him, because he slapped him every time he tried to bite. The second trainer worked on him for a whole month just to get him to stop "biting," (doesn't bite hard--he's very mouthy). This is the first time I have seen the dominance issue addressed as the primary motivation and the cure prescribed. My son usually works with him after I broke my toe, but I will get the steel toed boots out and try this once the snow melts!
Elizabeth Staeheli thanks for your story! Just make sure that the horse doesn't get aggressive otherwise you may want to find another trainer to get the worst part out of the way and then you guys can maintain the progress. Good luck. All the best.
I think this is one of the best training videos I have seen. My only issue is that excessive backing can lead to rearing. Maybe less backing and more hip and feet moving. Backing is very foreign to a horse.
Check out Warwick Schiller
@@jgerl100 I agree
I share Equine Reiki with a five-years-old, male rescue horse who bites. It is a continuous problem. I need this horse to stand calmly while I share this Reiki. I am here to learn. I will share this with his owner. Thank you.
Check out Warwick Schiller videos on biting.
Amazing! I'll definantley try this method! :D sorry for my bad English! :P
Let us know how your experience was if you have tried this. :-)
Kt is how horses 'talk' to each other.
Great vidéo but what do you do when you try to put the halter and lead rope on and the horse always bites it?
This is great thank you I'm going to try it! Unfortunately I've done many exercises to make an aggressive horse I'm working with to move back even with a crop or flag but she tries to run me over even if she gets tapped with the crop or flag she'll try to push in my space and kick. So I make her feet move she just won't back
Possibly get some help from a trainer to get them through the first couple of sessions.
So TRUE
That's very interesting . I'd like to have an opinion on how you conside the type of byting of a horse like mine that tent to bite you when you are near on inside his box expecially if you passing by with food or something that he consider to contain food.
These are territorial horses. It would be good if you are able to work them inside their stall after a normal session with them. Wouldn’t recommend it unless you feel comfortable. Will try to find a horse like that and show you
Can’t wait to try this on my mustang who has recently started biting while being groomed.
Thank you for good videos. I have a very sweet and calm 1 year old, he does not bite me, but he bites the children and other people. How do I fix that? Do I need to teach my 7-year old daughter to do this work with him? And some other people too, so he learns it. Or is there another way? I'm thinking, maybe he eventually grow out of it if I do nothing, but I do not like this behaviour, and I could get to be a habit.
Shure is a beautiful animal you are training !
thank you. he's my demo partner.
I needed this, I was told to hit their mouth to stop them but it has not worked at all.
Great! Thank you! What can you tell me about my horse that is starting to pin his ears? He did this before he tried to bite me...
michele tremblay he is telling you to move your feet! Best to contact a professional that understands how to deal with these issues. Best of luck and wish I could have helped.
He warned you. You did not move your feet. He upped the pressure to get you to move. You want to do that to the horse, not have the horse do it to you.
I have a 10 year old mare and when I put the saddle on she trys to bit me. I will try this out thanks
Where have you been
I agree!
Thanks, this is really helpful! Although I'm wondering, I've just recently engaged a "half pension" horse, so he's not mine, he's a gelding but still thinks he's a stallion in some ways. Bit me bad the first session when grooming, but a horse doesn't do things for no reason. Under the saddle he's almost too slow, but with ground work he tends to walk through me (not only me by the way) He tends to try to come "up" unto me during ground work also, he's an 11 y o gelding, is it something to still unlearn for him? NB he's in good condition, no abuse, no undernourishment, he's a happy horse living with a mare outdoors in pasture half day etc. so that's not it.
Some horses are too docile and prefer to do nothing. I don’t want to say that the pressure needs to be turned up BiG time as a default, but it has more to do with when and how you apply the pressure and when you release it. See it as a learning curve and be curious.
Excessive backing can lead to rearing...so maybe not so much backing and more feet and hip moving. Not a fan of rope wiggling" No need to do that when backing the horse. "Rope wiggling" whatever you call it, irritates the horse....you would get the same effect by just walking in on him with the whip. But, nice video. One of the better videos. You got right to the point. Really helpful. Thank you.
I’m going to try this in the morning, I’ll let you know how I go 😊
How did it go?
Yes how did it go?
It worked the first time 😘
how you do this in closed area
I'm good with your philosophy, but how did you get the halter on in the first place?
Some won't allow that.
D Beverly
I dealt with a defensive horse and I suggested taking a handful of grain and holding your hand out like, your getting the horse to take a bit and slide the halter up. Hold onto the nose band and stand behind the horses neck when clipping it
Stand at the horses neck not behind
Through roundoenning and getting the horse to hook and follow. Things become much easier then.
Nice 🐎
How would you recommend interpreting this method for a horse that only bites when stalled? Coming into the stall he is totally fine but walking past him in the barn aisle can be dangerous. Once in the stall, you can work with him safely.
He's simply claiming dominance over his personal space. Seems like this has got to a dangerous level and could get worse. I normally work with them in the stable, or from outside the stable, until he has accepted that I am allowed to be in his space. Hopefully one day I'll film a case like this and upload it to show you how quick the transformation can be. Thanks for the question.
How do you stop a horse from biting if they are in the crossties and you can't back them up??
Don't put them in crossties until the biting problem is solved.
Teach them to ground tie, thats a huge respect training thing right there.
I have a stud colt who has started biting, I have tried the moving his feet method in the last couple days, but he has started rearing at that, any recommendations on how to help with the biting and rearing?
Theresa Jacobse thanks for your q. Keep in mind there are many ways that Horses respond to you asking them to move their feet. Rearing is one of them. Remember if he rears and you take away the pressure, you will just teach him how to rear. When a Horse rears with me I keep the pressure on (and actually increase the pressure) until he takes 1 step back. Then o release. If he is really bad, I would put a snaffle bit in his mouth and just bump the rope until he backs up. Wish I could be there to show you how quick the change happens. Just go for 1 step on day 1 and build on that day by day. 👍
You haven't done it correctly.
And what I should do if my horse started to bite only in her stall?
I have an unexperienced horse for 6 months now, she was never aggressive towards me, she let me touch her anywhere, but lately she tried to kick my friend and she bit me when I tried to clean her feet in the stall ( I cleaned 2 right legs and moved to another side to clean her left front, she bit me in my elbow when I asked her to pick up her left front foot). She never did that before when I cleaned her in the stall, she is never aggressive during training, on the pasture, in the roundpen etc. I did clean her feet in all those places before to get her used to me doing it in a different circumstances and she never showed any aggression towards me so I don't think this is a defense reaction.
When she bit me my reaction was to rise my hands and make her back up, was that correct? then I took a lead rope, took her out of her stall and finished cleaning her feet in a more open space - she did not try to bit me again there.
How am I supposed to get her feet moving in the stall? It wouldn't be an instant reaction if I have to take her outside so I don't know if she will connect the work that she had to do with the fact that she bit me a few minutes earlier.