I'm glad to see someone else who loves antique HVAC stuff. This is a really well built machine. I can tell by the sound of that compressor; it runs at about 1200 RPM. The new ones run at 3600 RPM or so. That would allow the compressor to live much, much, longer! In my opinion, I would carefully consider replacement of the compressor motor's capacitor. They often fail and end up taking the compressor with them. It is inexpensive insurance. Get a Titan HD capacitor. They are still made in USA and have a very good reputation. One thing to watch for; the condenser fan really needs the shroud to be in place around the unit. That will direct the air from the fan through the condenser coil, to cool it. You didn't run it long enough in this video for it to be a problem! But if it were run a long time like that, the compressor would be overloaded because the condenser would overheat. Really hope to see this come together. I would also be interested to see how the power use compares to a modern unit of the same BTU capacity. I would expect it's not as far off as many of the "mainstream" people would like you to believe. Thanks for saving and documenting your repair s to this!
Thanks David, you're absolutely right about the air flow. Though I didn't say much about it in the video, this unit requires the exterior casing, fan shroud, and the front plastic grate to be properly installed for correct air flow, both to cool the condensing coils, and for routing the air usefully into the space to be cooled. Wish the front grill wasn't in quite so poor condition (cracks, breaks, missing mounting tabs). Thanks also for your opinion about replacing the capacitor with something good quality and new. Not a bad idea at all.
@Penney's Modding Channel That symptom does sound like a bad capacitor (if it has one); or possibly a bad start-relay. Could, unfortunately, also be a stuck compressor.
Yesterday i bought a 40 year old “General” AC unit, made by Fujitsu in Japan... uses R22 which i can still get in Africa for quite cheap. Unit has almost no rust and also everything still works.
I've got a 1970 GM (yes that GM) Frigidaire casement window air conditioner and it's the heavy! These casements by design are heavier but I couldn't imagine how heavier yours is because of the 2 evaporator coils and huge compressor. Mine has a big Tecumseh AJ compressor and 2 fan motors. Both are standard fans no blower wheels. It amazes me how these old units get right down to business cooling. Like yours mine blows ice cold pretty much instantly. I've got videos of it up on my channel if you're interested.
I personally worked on about 3,000 room air conditioners from 1979 to 1990 and I never saw one like that one. I worked on some Westinghouse air conditioners that would have dated from the early 1960's. That is a true tank of an air conditioner a real strongly made unit.
That so cool I have a 1968 kelvinator and it works amazing older units work so much better than the newer ones the new ones only work 5 years. But mines 51 years old and yours is 64 years old we got some good units!
good to see...amazing stuff back then i feel window ac back then were long lasting pieces of equipment not like these days where people used t say in inverter ac if PCB goes or brakes down your ac is useless......👍
I didn't know the O. A. Sutton Company made air conditioners. Ottis Sutton was an aircraft engineer himself, who experimented with propellers and aircraft propulsion. He was the inventor of the ducted fan propulsion system and tested it successfully on a model aircraft in Oklahoma back in the 1920s. Vornado was the name of this model aircraft.
Thanks for the info. I've been a fan collector forever, thus I was aware of Vornado being an OA Sutton product, but had no clue they made air conditioners. Saw my first Vornado window AC unit this past year and it has 50's some style to it but this Westinghouse (being a casement design) is uniquely different, and the fact that it's a re-branded product is interesting.
@@BackusBreeze Westinghouse was having union problems in the early-mid 1950's. That is why they contracted with O.A. Sutton to manufacture their window air conditioner line for 1954-56. In 1956 Westinghouse started to make window air conditioners again for the first time after the war and by 1957 Westinghouse was making their entire line.
Your going to have to take the insulation out because its a 50's modle and in the 50's asbestos was used in every thing so the insulation in that unit is asbestos so yeah
🤘🤘 pretty awesome brother! Wish they made shit now days like they did back then. But I guess if they did we would have a lot less work in the service field. New sub here thanks for sharing
Those compressors were just built very well had a Coke machine that had a slow run compressor on it talked to a guy and he said them things will practically run forever
that’s because things back then were made to last! now days they make them weak so it can break so we can purchase another. it’s all about money now vs quality
It's much lower pressure and much thicker tubing than modern stuff - which leaks out after several years whereas this still hasn't after decades.. and CFC's don't harm you at all, this is R-22 as well which was commonly used into the 2000's and only has 5% the ozone depletion of R-12, aka Freon.
@@BackusBreeze Bearings go, if it has been sitting forever, stuff happens. Just might want to replace the bearings to be on the safe side before using it too much.
BackusBreeze hello friend I have a Sanyo SA-FWL1671 (BW) All I need is a spare part for it to start working but I have no idea what it’s called. It’s what holds the spinning blower at the top & bottom, something that looks like a round rubber cap. Can you help me ? It’s a casement aircon.
Happened upon it during a house showing. Kept thinking about it and after exercising some persistence and patience, the owner was more than happy to give it away. I knew it was unusual looking at the outside of the unit.
Those really old vintage units were made like tanks very hard to take one down. Amazing start up!
It does feel very tank-like. Heavy like one anyway! Thanks :-)
I'm glad to see someone else who loves antique HVAC stuff.
This is a really well built machine. I can tell by the sound of that compressor; it runs at about 1200 RPM. The new ones run at 3600 RPM or so. That would allow the compressor to live much, much, longer!
In my opinion, I would carefully consider replacement of the compressor motor's capacitor. They often fail and end up taking the compressor with them. It is inexpensive insurance. Get a Titan HD capacitor. They are still made in USA and have a very good reputation.
One thing to watch for; the condenser fan really needs the shroud to be in place around the unit. That will direct the air from the fan through the condenser coil, to cool it. You didn't run it long enough in this video for it to be a problem! But if it were run a long time like that, the compressor would be overloaded because the condenser would overheat.
Really hope to see this come together. I would also be interested to see how the power use compares to a modern unit of the same BTU capacity. I would expect it's not as far off as many of the "mainstream" people would like you to believe.
Thanks for saving and documenting your repair s to this!
Thanks David, you're absolutely right about the air flow. Though I didn't say much about it in the video, this unit requires the exterior casing, fan shroud, and the front plastic grate to be properly installed for correct air flow, both to cool the condensing coils, and for routing the air usefully into the space to be cooled. Wish the front grill wasn't in quite so poor condition (cracks, breaks, missing mounting tabs). Thanks also for your opinion about replacing the capacitor with something good quality and new. Not a bad idea at all.
NO leave PCB capacitor in there... new titan pro are china junk might last couple years around my aria....
PCB Cap will last longer.
And in my experience older window units use the same if not less electricity.
@Penney's Modding Channel
That symptom does sound like a bad capacitor (if it has one); or possibly a bad start-relay. Could, unfortunately, also be a stuck compressor.
@Penney's Modding Channel
That's very likely to be the capacitor!
Yesterday i bought a 40 year old “General” AC unit, made by Fujitsu in Japan... uses R22 which i can still get in Africa for quite cheap. Unit has almost no rust and also everything still works.
Time to head to the scrap yard and find one of these.
And here I thought I was all in collecting ac units lol
I've got a 1970 GM (yes that GM) Frigidaire casement window air conditioner and it's the heavy! These casements by design are heavier but I couldn't imagine how heavier yours is because of the 2 evaporator coils and huge compressor. Mine has a big Tecumseh AJ compressor and 2 fan motors. Both are standard fans no blower wheels. It amazes me how these old units get right down to business cooling. Like yours mine blows ice cold pretty much instantly. I've got videos of it up on my channel if you're interested.
I'll be sure to check it out, thanks!
I personally worked on about 3,000 room air conditioners from 1979 to 1990 and I never saw one like that one. I worked on some Westinghouse air conditioners that would have dated from the early 1960's. That is a true tank of an air conditioner a real strongly made unit.
It's still working! even with dusts and mold.
It has a good quality,
That would be the great Tecumseh S Series compressor. One of the best of all time.
Agreed!!
That so cool I have a 1968 kelvinator and it works amazing older units work so much better than the newer ones the new ones only work 5 years. But mines 51 years old and yours is 64 years old we got some good units!
MustangLover 1970 you mind making a video of the unit?
Will Butter this is mustanglover 1970. This is my hvac channel my 1968 kelvinator is featured here
Thanks for the comment. Look forward to checking out your Kelvinator 👍🏻.
That has to be one of the best sounding compressors I’ve ever heard. That by the way is a Tecumseh S series compressor. 1 hp is the rating.
I have a 1964 model I wish I could get checked!!
This is interesting. Hard to find videos about old hvac stuff
Glad to provide some hard-to-find info. I agree, there's not much posted yet about the first decade of HVAC equipment development.
good to see...amazing stuff back then i feel window ac back then were long lasting pieces of equipment not like these days where people used t say in inverter ac if PCB goes or brakes down your ac is useless......👍
I didn't know the O. A. Sutton Company made air conditioners. Ottis Sutton was an aircraft engineer himself, who experimented with propellers and aircraft propulsion. He was the inventor of the ducted fan propulsion system and tested it successfully on a model aircraft in Oklahoma back in the 1920s. Vornado was the name of this model aircraft.
Thanks for the info. I've been a fan collector forever, thus I was aware of Vornado being an OA Sutton product, but had no clue they made air conditioners. Saw my first Vornado window AC unit this past year and it has 50's some style to it but this Westinghouse (being a casement design) is uniquely different, and the fact that it's a re-branded product is interesting.
@@BackusBreeze Westinghouse was having union problems in the early-mid 1950's. That is why they contracted with O.A. Sutton to manufacture their window air conditioner line for 1954-56. In 1956 Westinghouse started to make window air conditioners again for the first time after the war and by 1957 Westinghouse was making their entire line.
Great info, thanks 👍🏻👏🏻
Amazing.
Here we are in 2021, how's it goin so far?
Your going to have to take the insulation out because its a 50's modle and in the 50's asbestos was used in every thing so the insulation in that unit is asbestos so yeah
Good stuff. Probably better than fiberglass
@@DRNEGOLICIS hell no it aint
@@joshuaryanferguson3702 hell yes it is
Awesome stocking that it works!
🤘🤘 pretty awesome brother! Wish they made shit now days like they did back then. But I guess if they did we would have a lot less work in the service field. New sub here thanks for sharing
I like that unit you should install it I’m getting a vintage ac unit this week
Крутое видео! Было приятно смотреть хоть я и средне знаю английский.
you need to do a full on restoration on it an repaint it because they used lead in it
It does not need to be repainted. Also lead paint is not dangerous.
@@MrWolfSnack how dumb are you lead based paint can harm anyone even though its small amount of paint look it up
That's probably a Tecumseh s reciprocating compressor!
The coating on the compressor windings.
Those compressors were just built very well had a Coke machine that had a slow run compressor on it talked to a guy and he said them things will practically run forever
It's a Tecumseh s series compressor.
Are you going to do a video of it running when its clean?
Max Grawe Yes, will do!
Ah the big round compressor. Must be F12 system judging from tubing size. Never to be made again like it.
Valuable. Museum thing
Any updates? Did you restore it? I wanna see a long running video of it
Vann Berg HVAC Not yet, but soon, I hope! Priorities, you know how that goes.
Can you make a current video of it?
Its gold
Make sure you clean the coils with Nu-Brite. That stuff is available online on Amazon
Thanks for the recommendation. I plan to use some.
it's impossible to find a vintage air conditioner that still works
Soy boys keep scrapping them "oh this is destroying the ozone layer" - NOT!
I have been pleasantly surprised. I have four A/C units here, and they all work.
I'm not really sure one of my units would be considered as vintage but it's a 79 fenders 8k and it blows colder than my newer artic king
Hahahahaha I haven’t found a old unit that didn’t run
@@kenb1918 i was about to comment the same thing
Apparently you really can be sure if it's a Westinghouse!
that’s because things back then were made to last! now days they make them weak so it can break so we can purchase another. it’s all about money now vs quality
The scary thing is that it could explode at the high pressure side because its so old. and it contains CFCs for sure.
It's much lower pressure and much thicker tubing than modern stuff - which leaks out after several years whereas this still hasn't after decades.. and CFC's don't harm you at all, this is R-22 as well which was commonly used into the 2000's and only has 5% the ozone depletion of R-12, aka Freon.
Sounds like a bearing is worn out but if it's blowing cold, I guess it still works.
Funny, it wasn't making that noise before I first started messing with it. Good lesson to leave well enough alone.
@@BackusBreeze Bearings go, if it has been sitting forever, stuff happens. Just might want to replace the bearings to be on the safe side before using it too much.
I’d get rid of and replace the insulation.
do you plan on restoring it
ITS NAKED!!!!!!!!!!!
Did you get the insulation out asbestos you can?
Ha! 😏🤦🏼♂️. Not yet. But I will.
Can you do an update and finished video
SouthOCElevators Will do! It patiently waits. Other projects abound 😁👍🏻
@@BackusBreeze hopefully soon but we realize your busy too
Impressive how 70 year old units that haven't been ran in decades still work great but new modern units break within a year. What happened to quality?
Is it out back together? Can we see how it looks now?
Michael Moynihan Not yet. Other priorities. It patiently waits! Thanks for the interest. I will be sure to post a follow up video.
You can be sure if it's Westinghouse
That was made when shit was built to last
they don't make them like they used to and nice old ac
update please!! wondering how much power it sucks could be a surprise
razzorbladz No update yet, sorry. But soon, I hope!
@@BackusBreeze I'm wondering what it uses power wise for to possibility of running it on a AC inverter off solar
BackusBreeze hello friend I have a Sanyo SA-FWL1671 (BW) All I need is a spare part for it to start working but I have no idea what it’s called. It’s what holds the spinning blower at the top & bottom, something that looks like a round rubber cap. Can you help me ? It’s a casement aircon.
@@PhenomenalDiva
A bearing perhaps?
Any update on this one did you sell it ?
bv ramana No update yet, sorry. But nope, not selling it, just holding onto it until I get to restoring it 👍🏻.
@@BackusBreeze hopefully soon 😊
10,000watt 1000btu 0.1 EER.
🤦🏼♂️. Sounds about right
And still better than the new garbage made today
The greatest generation built things to last a lifetime, before the planned obsolescence rubbish became a thing.
Is r22 or r12 refrigerant?
R-12 I believe
Where did you find this!!!
Happened upon it during a house showing. Kept thinking about it and after exercising some persistence and patience, the owner was more than happy to give it away. I knew it was unusual looking at the outside of the unit.
@@BackusBreeze Wow thats awesome great find.
Forsale?
Alex Jones NFS, but thanks for the interest.
Oil the motor
U must restore this air conditioner