I worked for a Carrier Dealer back in the later 80’s. That was the premium air conditioner. The furnace was a 120,000 btuh and was touted as a premium mid efficient furnace due to the spark ignition. I never had one that leaked in the transition from the copper to aluminum. The big problem in those days was the compression fittings on the service valves. We ended up just brazing the line sets to eliminate the problem. You ain’t buying nothing today that will last like that stuff did. Thanks for the walk down memory lane Theodore.👍👍🇨🇦
Bout 3 yrs ago I replaced an old 2 spd lennox 88 model tough old bird. I did see an old westinghouse unit wedge shape entire top flipped open its was dead no pad
I had a Lennox unit that was installed in 1969 and work until 2007. The only reasons for replacing it was 1. The evaporator was clogged and not accessible 2. R-12 was being phased out and got too expensive to replace. It was a beast, running through nearly forty years of Texas summers.
I grew up with a blue 1972 Carrier Round One. Was ALWAYS enamored with everything about it. The sounds it made, its appearance, how it operated, etc. The compressor finally DID die in 2014, and my dad entered it in my local HVAC company’s “Oldest AC Contest.” Turns out…we had the oldest air conditioner in the Lehigh Valley (PA), and won a brand new Lennox unit!
That just comes to show how well things were built back in the day, when most if not all products were made in the USA. My Aunt & Uncle still have their Kennmore washer & dryer set from 1982 when they brought their first home, the washer is a real workhorse and sets the standard for clean clothes.
Ted, I just worked on one just like this one...40 years old and like you said purring like a kitten after repairing a burnt connection at the compressor terminal like this one. My customer was over the moon happy she did not have to replace her system. Great job as usual.
I actually just fixed a womans AC that she had another company tell her she needed a whole new $8,000 unit and all it was was the compressor start cap. It was a Goodman from 1977...!!!
It's real sad that two other repair techs looked at it, probably saw how old it was and just straight up told him he needs a new one without actually taking the time to open it up and see exactly what went wrong. The reason he hovered around you, too, is probably because he thought one of the other techs might have compromised the unit or maybe he had experience with something like that in the past. Just you being there, letting him follow and explaining what you saw, fixing it even if it's temporary, makes all the difference.
Our company takes care of a school in our town that still has several old Carrier round ones from 1984 and 85. They look just like this unit, except they’re silver. And those things are tough as nails from what I’ve seen. There’s one in particular that I worked on in ‘21, and I noticed the compressor sounded like it had pieces of metal bouncing around inside of it, and I figured it wouldn’t make it through the rest of the summer. That sucker is still kicking today.
In S Florida the round ones were popular with builders, but became inefficient with age and most lasted about 10 years ... people who pushed them got about ~ 15 years tops. You could hear the holdouts because the startup sound is so iconic
Five star service call Ted. Wow that Carrier is 2 years older than my perfect running 3 ton York condenser. I never condemn a piece of equipment until I’m positive it’s not repairable. It’s a pleasure to watch a knowledgeable and honest tech work.
My dad's house was built in 1961. Had a Carrier 3 ton unit. We sold the house 10 years ago. The AC was still working like a champ. Freon 504 system. Incredible!
At your age and the Quality of your company, your reputation is VITALLY important! YOU>>>>do the right thing for the right reason! It's a pleasure to watch you preform on these videos!!
Much respect for your work ethics, we younglings definitely can learn a thing or two about being honest with our clients and at least bother to get our hands dirty to diagnose.
It's got my Lennox beat by about 6 months. I'm on season 4 with the Ole thing and it's running great. Love that you took a minute and actually looked and found a problem when everyone else just wanted to bum rush him a new system. Surly you earned his business. Nice work Ted.
A new system would likely be much better for him. Sure, it's lasted a long time, but he's probably paying 3x more in electricity to run the thing than he really needs to.
Wow, so cool to see these old units. It's why I'm subscribed. Such a simple fix, and while it may not have much time left, I do hope it at least sees it's 40th before it's time to go.
That connection on the compressor may have just corroded and created a high resistance point. That would account for the melted insulation on the black wire. I wouldn't be surprised if that condensing unit gave another season of good performance. The compressor sounded very healthy. The fan motor - - well, time will tell! Good repair Ted.
Just had a job. We went in months ago and gave a quote for a full reinstall for ac and the homeowner declined and sad they can get someone cheaper, a couple weeks ago we got a call from the same homeowner that there ac wasn't working so we looked into it and whoever did the job only replaced the condenser and not the coil and mixed R22 with 410a. its always the we can get it cheaper then having it done right and you get what you pay for
Great video! Especially as I’m sitting here listening to my 1986 Trane heat pump humming away outside. Fantastic that you got the old girl working again.👍
You're right about those fan motors. Installed AC last summer. This year started it up and the fan motor was bad. Wasn't difficult to replace it myself.
I serviced a Carrier liquid cooler with three 06E compressors from 1982 for a number of years until I moved to a different location in 2020. Changed the oil and the valve plates but that is all. Would not be surprised if it is still running.
The way that Carrier unit looked & ran ( could use a good interior cleaning though) I'd say he has a few more yrs left in it even with it being nearly 40 yrs old.
That same age compressor and brand about 30 years ago at are house the fan blade broke my dad goes in the garage comes out with a piece of aluminum cuts it shapes it drills the holes in it I think he riveted it on there puts it back together works perfectly. Now my dad was definitely not an a/c tech he was a lineman by trade. But about a year later the a/c tech came to replace a capacitor they got too talking about the fan blade and the tech says I don’t know how it’s running so smooth and you got the bend just right the guy was really impressed.
I would replace that wire (and the yellow one as it is looking a bit melty near the connection), clean it and call it good. It would probably live a good while longer.
F.I.L has a mobile, contained unit Payne 50EE024 self-contained unit, 1982 I believe.Replaced the blower capacitor supposed to be 15ufd, testing at 3 ufd. Replaced the run cap 35/5, reading at 25/2 ufd.Replaced the smoked contactor. Sounds normal, runs beautiful.
Trane isn't the only company that uses spine fin tubing... Old GE room air conditioners use spine fin as well. I have several of them from the 70s and 80s still working great. They also used glued refrigerant lines, which is amazing because it actually stands the test of time very well.
My parents have a 1988 Carrier High Efficiency Plus. I am pretty sure its a 38ES036. The unit has been completely flawless, but Its been a true disappointment dealing with service providers. Ever since around 2010, nearly everyone they called just for a checkup every couple years, really didnt want to do anything but sell my parents a new unit. Some made up issues, pointed out alleged leaks that were just minerals or corrosion, or they said they were on borrowed time and that they should just get it out of the way before prices allegedly went up during the summer season. Year after year, it works perfectly. Cant say the same for this Lennox piece of crap I have myself. Nice to see honest people out there leading by example.
I saw what I believe was a heat pump version of one of these the other day on top of an office building, it was the kind that has the hail guard where the coils are visible/fan motor is not grille-mounted. It was running and the line was frozen, hopefully it lives
Somebody sold them an IWAVE Air cleaner! LMAO. That yellow run winding wire was swollen and melted as well, will be the next one to go if he waits to long to replace it. I was 13 when that was installed, damn!
Yessir. Did the same thing yesterday on a circa 1989 Rheem rectangle. One burnt terminal and 5 minutes later she was whistling dixie!!! This lady also had a couple jacklegs out that wanted to only sell her a full system replacement.
Boy those Carlisle compressor’s were a tough smooth running and a little noisy at times. Yep and I remember those coils and their leaks occasionally, but I didn’t see as many as the sort of things you folks run into today that leak.. 👍👍
Those old ribbon burners 3 wire pilot assembly . I always say sweet music when I hear that compressor. Only thing bout get someone by they'll end up using someone else replace unit . I love a god challenge like that good ole carrier. My mother in-law tech 2000 I installed lasted 29 yrs not bad
I’ve always had trane units at the houses. One at our old house and one trane and two carriers at my current one. The trane ones are awesome and I expect to last like this one
I've got a 1985 Hyundai Pony with working air conditioner. Brakes are shot, lower control arms and front spring cups are about to fall apart from rust, engine smokes, but it has ICE COLD AIR.
Many times, that's the best solution......get the customer's existing rig working for now.... then make a replacement suggestion. I fix computers... I had one I fixed (old) for someone and I told them it wasn't going to last a LOT longer... they got 9months more before it failed, and ordered the new PC from our shop.
it's interesting to see how little things have changed since then. Other than the fact that this unit has 2 squirrel cages, The internals look almost exactly like the AC at my house.
That's almost modern compared to my 1978 Luxaire which I just recently replaced. The blower fan seized and I was told the refrigerant had also leaked out. I was going to replace it myself seeing I was told the refrigerant was gone. But when I cut the line it was clearly still at full pressure. Took almost half an hour to fully depressurize. The dishonesty of some companies. Though thanks to the blower design I was going to have to fully remove the unit anyway.
Wow!! "Garbage Can Series" with the electrical all around the circumference. I knew a tech that tap on a comp. Terminal and the pin came out like a bullet narrowly missing his eye
I have a roof mounted Trane it’s going on 26 years old never had a service and is still running like a champ I n the phoenix, Arizona weather. Still ice cold and only thing I’ve done is about every 3 months i change out air filter. They don’t make things like they used to that’s for sure
I have Carrier system we installed around 04-05. The condenser fan motor failed in the first year or two and the TX valve froze up and had to be replaced, probably about year five. The company that originally installed it went out of business. I think the young guy that owned it decided to go back to the Air Force. We contracted with another company to do routine maintenance on it. Then they would come in and tell me the condenser fan motor was "amping up" and would die soon, and the capacitor was about to go bad. I bought into it for a time, at $500 for a condenser motor and another $200 for a new capacitor. Then a couple of years later they tried to sell me another condenser fan motor and this time they said my evaporator coil was stopped up. This would be about $2500 worth of work. I was like if the evaporator coil is plugged up it wouldn't be cooling. I told them to basically get lost. Then called another company out for a second opinion. They said it needed about a pound of Freon and the evaporator coil was a little dirty. I asked them point blank about my fan motor and the evaporator coil. The tech kind of looked at me strange and said no, everything was fine except for the refrigerant level. I used that company for several years after that, the other guys tried to get back in, the companies have very similar names, and my wife almost said yes, but she called me and I said, wrong company. I also learned from a friend of mine, that they tried the same thing with him, until he caught on. Then company number two's tech tried that routine. "You must have a condenser fan" I wonder if they got him from the other guys. I dismissed them and the next season hired a third company. Their guy came out, and said everything was basically ok, but the capacitor was getting weak. He showed me the meter readings. He didn't pressure me to change it. He was like it might make it through the season, it might not. He quoted a reasonable price to change it out, so I said yes. Ran good ever since. That company did plumbing too, so I hired them to replace an outdoor faucet for me. It was leaking, a washer was not the fix. It was a totally obsolete model, couldn't not find parts anywhere. So I spent $450 to get a modern one put in. Up at work we stop Tranes all the time. We've explained to upper management numerous times, about the corrosive atmosphere at the plant is going to be very hard on the solder joints, and the dirty power in the place will eat the electronics. Indoors it's a chemistry lab, and an even more corrosive atmosphere, all metal eventually gets eaten. Hey, I worked in that environment for a long time, but doing good.
I finished a commercial project last year with 30 heat pumps. Some 1984 were still in use. Granted maintained and many parts changed along the way. But still going. I fell just the housing on newer u its don't stand a chance to last outside.
How cool sword burners! These were great and easy to work on except for the dual blower assembly. Worked on many of these in the day. No Carrier back than used GE not Marathon motors. Tech's today (if you can call them that) are not thorough. That is an easy find. Everyone today want's to change units out right a way. If it can be fixed and the customer wants to put that money in the old thing that's fine with me. I fix it !
The weak link on those units was the compression fittings on the line sets. The o ring frequently failed causing refrigerant leaks… but the aluminum coils were bulletproof… those industrial capacitors were also indestructible…
It's nice to see these old timers still running. Shows how well they were built back in the day.
you said it.
you talking about repairman?
That's for sure
Built like a rock but so dang inefficient compared to todays units.
Today's split units are lucky to see 10-12 years or so.
I worked for a Carrier Dealer back in the later 80’s. That was the premium air conditioner. The furnace was a 120,000 btuh and was touted as a premium mid efficient furnace due to the spark ignition. I never had one that leaked in the transition from the copper to aluminum. The big problem in those days was the compression fittings on the service valves. We ended up just brazing the line sets to eliminate the problem. You ain’t buying nothing today that will last like that stuff did. Thanks for the walk down memory lane Theodore.👍👍🇨🇦
Agreed!
Exactly what I mean bout that new compressed coupling they will leak especially heatpumps
Bout 3 yrs ago I replaced an old 2 spd lennox 88 model tough old bird. I did see an old westinghouse unit wedge shape entire top flipped open its was dead no pad
Rheem units are still 30 year units...icp products are good for maybe 8 before they need a heat exchanger lol
i doubt new rheems will last 30 years. @@chevysaregr8
I had a Lennox unit that was installed in 1969 and work until 2007. The only reasons for replacing it was 1. The evaporator was clogged and not accessible 2. R-12 was being phased out and got too expensive to replace. It was a beast, running through nearly forty years of Texas summers.
Now our lenox unit leaks after 4 years of having it here in texas lol
Money make them last forever
I grew up with a blue 1972 Carrier Round One. Was ALWAYS enamored with everything about it. The sounds it made, its appearance, how it operated, etc. The compressor finally DID die in 2014, and my dad entered it in my local HVAC company’s “Oldest AC Contest.” Turns out…we had the oldest air conditioner in the Lehigh Valley (PA), and won a brand new Lennox unit!
Sure it wasn't the compressor capacitor?
@@TheMatsushitaManWho cares? They got a free system. Do you think anyone cares you know what a capacitor is..??? Like really???
dang yo i live in pa too peace love and happiness
@@SzymczykProductions Yea, they could have kept it together with the new one
@@SzymczykProductions Lighten up Nancy.
R2D2 is good to go! 😎👍
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That just comes to show how well things were built back in the day, when most if not all products were made in the USA. My Aunt & Uncle still have their Kennmore washer & dryer set from 1982 when they brought their first home, the washer is a real workhorse and sets the standard for clean clothes.
Would love to find one of that era Kenmore/Whirlpool Washer!
Ted, I just worked on one just like this one...40 years old and like you said purring like a kitten after repairing a burnt connection at the compressor terminal like this one. My customer was over the moon happy she did not have to replace her system. Great job as usual.
I actually just fixed a womans AC that she had another company tell her she needed a whole new $8,000 unit and all it was was the compressor start cap. It was a Goodman from 1977...!!!
All people care about is money not doing the right thing More people need to be like you. Thanks people like you make the trades GREAT again
It's real sad that two other repair techs looked at it, probably saw how old it was and just straight up told him he needs a new one without actually taking the time to open it up and see exactly what went wrong. The reason he hovered around you, too, is probably because he thought one of the other techs might have compromised the unit or maybe he had experience with something like that in the past. Just you being there, letting him follow and explaining what you saw, fixing it even if it's temporary, makes all the difference.
Its wore out
Great tech but this one definitely should have been condemned. You ever see Frankenstein? That's what I felt I watched here! 😂
Our company takes care of a school in our town that still has several old Carrier round ones from 1984 and 85. They look just like this unit, except they’re silver. And those things are tough as nails from what I’ve seen. There’s one in particular that I worked on in ‘21, and I noticed the compressor sounded like it had pieces of metal bouncing around inside of it, and I figured it wouldn’t make it through the rest of the summer. That sucker is still kicking today.
In S Florida the round ones were popular with builders, but became inefficient with age and most lasted about 10 years ... people who pushed them got about ~ 15 years tops. You could hear the holdouts because the startup sound is so iconic
Five star service call Ted. Wow that Carrier is 2 years older than my perfect running 3 ton York condenser. I never condemn a piece of equipment until I’m positive it’s not repairable. It’s a pleasure to watch a knowledgeable and honest tech work.
Wild. That unit and I were born the same month and year. Good job keeping her alive Ted 👍
My dad's house was built in 1961. Had a Carrier 3 ton unit. We sold the house 10 years ago. The AC was still working like a champ. Freon 504 system. Incredible!
We have an old cylinder carrier like this one, but from the late 90’s. Still going strong all this time later.
At your age and the Quality of your company, your reputation is VITALLY important! YOU>>>>do the right thing for the right reason! It's a pleasure to watch you preform on these videos!!
Much respect for your work ethics, we younglings definitely can learn a thing or two about being honest with our clients and at least bother to get our hands dirty to diagnose.
It's got my Lennox beat by about 6 months. I'm on season 4 with the Ole thing and it's running great. Love that you took a minute and actually looked and found a problem when everyone else just wanted to bum rush him a new system. Surly you earned his business. Nice work Ted.
A new system would likely be much better for him. Sure, it's lasted a long time, but he's probably paying 3x more in electricity to run the thing than he really needs to.
Wow that’s in really nice shape for its age always makes me happy to see an old unit brought back to life
Wow, so cool to see these old units. It's why I'm subscribed. Such a simple fix, and while it may not have much time left, I do hope it at least sees it's 40th before it's time to go.
That connection on the compressor may have just corroded and created a high resistance point. That would account for the melted insulation on the black wire. I wouldn't be surprised if that condensing unit gave another season of good performance. The compressor sounded very healthy. The fan motor - - well, time will tell! Good repair Ted.
Had that same outdoor unit until 2010. Was still running. Only replaced b/c the interior components wore out and it made sense to replace everything.
Love seeing that machine get fixed and a relatively easy one, Good for you and them !!!
That's the year I got into the trade. I installed lots of those units !
Just had a job. We went in months ago and gave a quote for a full reinstall for ac and the homeowner declined and sad they can get someone cheaper, a couple weeks ago we got a call from the same homeowner that there ac wasn't working so we looked into it and whoever did the job only replaced the condenser and not the coil and mixed R22 with 410a. its always the we can get it cheaper then having it done right and you get what you pay for
Nice job Ted, it's so nice to see that old Carrier up and running again 👍 AU
Dang...I thought my 93 model was living on borrowed time...still running strong in the Houston Texas heat...(knock on wood)
Great video! Especially as I’m sitting here listening to my 1986 Trane heat pump humming away outside. Fantastic that you got the old girl working again.👍
As an 84 baby, thanks for reminding me that I'm almost 40 😆
You definitely do great videos!! Thanks
You're right about those fan motors. Installed AC last summer. This year started it up and the fan motor was bad. Wasn't difficult to replace it myself.
They sure don't make em like they used to, Ted! Thanks for the video.
Congratulations ❤😊 great story adventure.
I have the same unit from1984. My father bought new. Gosh they are so good! We keep a 12ft tall roof over it for element protection
I serviced a Carrier liquid cooler with three 06E compressors from 1982 for a number of years until I moved to a different location in 2020. Changed the oil and the valve plates but that is all. Would not be surprised if it is still running.
The way that Carrier unit looked & ran ( could use a good interior cleaning though) I'd say he has a few more yrs left in it even with it being nearly 40 yrs old.
I cut my teeth on those old Carriers and the old Sears brand. Worked on an one GE couple weeks ago. Glad to see you highlight one the good ones
That same age compressor and brand about 30 years ago at are house the fan blade broke my dad goes in the garage comes out with a piece of aluminum cuts it shapes it drills the holes in it I think he riveted it on there puts it back together works perfectly. Now my dad was definitely not an a/c tech he was a lineman by trade. But about a year later the a/c tech came to replace a capacitor they got too talking about the fan blade and the tech says I don’t know how it’s running so smooth and you got the bend just right the guy was really impressed.
I have this model unit. 1.5 ton. Round Brown Carrier. Built in 1987. Still humming along.
Where can you gets parts for these I need a fan one blade broke😢
I would see how long it lasts. Run it until the wheels fall off. No one else wanted to look at it because everyone is trying to sell installs.
I would replace that wire (and the yellow one as it is looking a bit melty near the connection), clean it and call it good. It would probably live a good while longer.
Antique?! It's 5 years newer than my GE units (Trane before they were Trane). Quietest running, coldest blowing AC systems I have ever had.
I remember our air conditioner was made when the house was built in 1979, lasted until 2003. Probably lucky to get 10 years out of one these days.
We just replaced our 20 year old Keep Rite with a Lennox system. As nice as the new Lennox runs (really quiet) I wonder how long it will last.
Before we got a new AC unit about 4 or so years ago, we had a AC unit that was built with the house... in 1972.
Have a carrier on my house that's from 1993 still running like a champ.
F.I.L has a mobile, contained unit Payne 50EE024 self-contained unit, 1982 I believe.Replaced the blower capacitor supposed to be 15ufd, testing at 3 ufd. Replaced the run cap 35/5, reading at 25/2 ufd.Replaced the smoked contactor. Sounds normal, runs beautiful.
The Round One.... One of the best Carrier's ever
Trane isn't the only company that uses spine fin tubing... Old GE room air conditioners use spine fin as well. I have several of them from the 70s and 80s still working great. They also used glued refrigerant lines, which is amazing because it actually stands the test of time very well.
Yep. I have 4 of the ge carry cool units, and they are great.
If I'm correct, Trane uses it BECAUSE they bought out GE Air Conditioning.
Good on ya Ted. It’s techs like you that keep the frauds on edge. Wish there were more honest and trustworthy techs like you out there.
I remember seeing a vintage unit from the late 70’s still in service. I believe it was a Frigidaire unit!
Mine on my house are from 1982! replaced a motor and capacitor on one of the units a few years ago running like a champ.
Very good Ted like seeing these old units trucking along
They don't make em like they used to. Keep that unit working!
It’s a shame things are not made well in today’s time, everything….washing machines, water heaters, furnaces, appliances in general.
its all china junk now
My parents have a 1988 Carrier High Efficiency Plus. I am pretty sure its a 38ES036. The unit has been completely flawless, but Its been a true disappointment dealing with service providers. Ever since around 2010, nearly everyone they called just for a checkup every couple years, really didnt want to do anything but sell my parents a new unit. Some made up issues, pointed out alleged leaks that were just minerals or corrosion, or they said they were on borrowed time and that they should just get it out of the way before prices allegedly went up during the summer season. Year after year, it works perfectly. Cant say the same for this Lennox piece of crap I have myself.
Nice to see honest people out there leading by example.
I saw what I believe was a heat pump version of one of these the other day on top of an office building, it was the kind that has the hail guard where the coils are visible/fan motor is not grille-mounted. It was running and the line was frozen, hopefully it lives
Old Carrier GR series running still. I was in the 2nd grade when that unit was installed and now I am a grandpa.
Somebody sold them an IWAVE Air cleaner! LMAO. That yellow run winding wire was swollen and melted as well, will be the next one to go if he waits to long to replace it. I was 13 when that was installed, damn!
Yessir. Did the same thing yesterday on a circa 1989 Rheem rectangle. One burnt terminal and 5 minutes later she was whistling dixie!!! This lady also had a couple jacklegs out that wanted to only sell her a full system replacement.
39 years. Impressive. Thx.
I work at a refinery that has a couple units from the 70s 80s and up still running and running well
I’ve got an old carrier ac and all that been replaced is fan motor and the contactor never added any Freon still works great.
Boy those Carlisle compressor’s were a tough smooth running and a little noisy at times. Yep and I remember those coils and their leaks occasionally, but I didn’t see as many as the sort of things you folks run into today that leak.. 👍👍
Thank you Sir for your honesty
I can’t believe as badass a hvac guy you are, you call refrigerant (freon) 😂
i have a ge furnace and condensor from 1976 and still working great
Those old ribbon burners 3 wire pilot assembly . I always say sweet music when I hear that compressor. Only thing bout get someone by they'll end up using someone else replace unit . I love a god challenge like that good ole carrier. My mother in-law tech 2000 I installed lasted 29 yrs not bad
Amazing, that’s a nice unit for sure.
The AC unit for my place was installed sometime in the early 90's and it's still going.
My Trane Executive from 1984 still blows ice cold air! Have only replaced the contactor and the capacitors a few times over the years.
Yes remember that crazy compression kit for carrier aluminum coil . Be 42 yrs July 16th for me still doing service calls and change outs.
I’ve always had trane units at the houses. One at our old house and one trane and two carriers at my current one. The trane ones are awesome and I expect to last like this one
I have a carrier for 82' still running.
I've got a 1985 Hyundai Pony with working air conditioner. Brakes are shot, lower control arms and front spring cups are about to fall apart from rust, engine smokes, but it has ICE COLD AIR.
*R-12 rocks!*
Many times, that's the best solution......get the customer's existing rig working for now.... then make a replacement suggestion. I fix computers... I had one I fixed (old) for someone and I told them it wasn't going to last a LOT longer... they got 9months more before it failed, and ordered the new PC from our shop.
That thing belongs in a museum 😊 I was 14 years!
Nice little ole girl still moving around like a dream.
it's interesting to see how little things have changed since then. Other than the fact that this unit has 2 squirrel cages, The internals look almost exactly like the AC at my house.
That's almost modern compared to my 1978 Luxaire which I just recently replaced. The blower fan seized and I was told the refrigerant had also leaked out. I was going to replace it myself seeing I was told the refrigerant was gone. But when I cut the line it was clearly still at full pressure. Took almost half an hour to fully depressurize. The dishonesty of some companies. Though thanks to the blower design I was going to have to fully remove the unit anyway.
Wow!! "Garbage Can Series" with the electrical all around the circumference. I knew a tech that tap on a comp. Terminal and the pin came out like a bullet narrowly missing his eye
I had a round carrier from 80s i upgraded and put it in a friends house and it’s running today original cap recip compressor spider coil
I have a roof mounted Trane it’s going on 26 years old never had a service and is still running like a champ I n the phoenix, Arizona weather. Still ice cold and only thing I’ve done is about every 3 months i change out air filter. They don’t make things like they used to that’s for sure
That is a great find!
I changed out many of these old units back when I was doing HVAC work 20 years ago.
Great Job. What a quiet old Carrier.
It looks so cooool man.
I have Carrier system we installed around 04-05. The condenser fan motor failed in the first year or two and the TX valve froze up and had to be replaced, probably about year five. The company that originally installed it went out of business. I think the young guy that owned it decided to go back to the Air Force. We contracted with another company to do routine maintenance on it. Then they would come in and tell me the condenser fan motor was "amping up" and would die soon, and the capacitor was about to go bad. I bought into it for a time, at $500 for a condenser motor and another $200 for a new capacitor. Then a couple of years later they tried to sell me another condenser fan motor and this time they said my evaporator coil was stopped up. This would be about $2500 worth of work. I was like if the evaporator coil is plugged up it wouldn't be cooling. I told them to basically get lost. Then called another company out for a second opinion. They said it needed about a pound of Freon and the evaporator coil was a little dirty. I asked them point blank about my fan motor and the evaporator coil. The tech kind of looked at me strange and said no, everything was fine except for the refrigerant level. I used that company for several years after that, the other guys tried to get back in, the companies have very similar names, and my wife almost said yes, but she called me and I said, wrong company. I also learned from a friend of mine, that they tried the same thing with him, until he caught on. Then company number two's tech tried that routine. "You must have a condenser fan" I wonder if they got him from the other guys. I dismissed them and the next season hired a third company. Their guy came out, and said everything was basically ok, but the capacitor was getting weak. He showed me the meter readings. He didn't pressure me to change it. He was like it might make it through the season, it might not. He quoted a reasonable price to change it out, so I said yes. Ran good ever since. That company did plumbing too, so I hired them to replace an outdoor faucet for me. It was leaking, a washer was not the fix. It was a totally obsolete model, couldn't not find parts anywhere. So I spent $450 to get a modern one put in. Up at work we stop Tranes all the time. We've explained to upper management numerous times, about the corrosive atmosphere at the plant is going to be very hard on the solder joints, and the dirty power in the place will eat the electronics. Indoors it's a chemistry lab, and an even more corrosive atmosphere, all metal eventually gets eaten. Hey, I worked in that environment for a long time, but doing good.
Had the same type of Carrier unit until 2010. The paperwork said it was a 8 SEER. Replaced with 18 SEER and summer electric bill went down by 30%
I finished a commercial project last year with 30 heat pumps. Some 1984 were still in use. Granted maintained and many parts changed along the way. But still going. I fell just the housing on newer u its don't stand a chance to last outside.
How cool sword burners! These were great and easy to work on except for the dual blower assembly. Worked on many of these in the day. No Carrier back than used GE not Marathon motors. Tech's today (if you can call them that) are not thorough. That is an easy find. Everyone today want's to change units out right a way. If it can be fixed and the customer wants to put that money in the old thing that's fine with me. I fix it !
Great Video. Thank you for sharing
They just don't make stuff like they used too. Like the way you try to do the right thing to try and save customers money. Great Job Ted
1993 Lennox just shot today at home ,went on overload,cooled it down ,but when it cranked back on ,nothing worked the same again ..
My dad still has that same unit installed at his house it’s still running strong
My parents got married in September of 84. Christ above that thing is older than I am and it still works. Not bad.
Just replaced my 38 year old trane units with some new trane units. Only replaced due to house remodel. They kept going!
I just replaced one that was maybe 5 years newer than that. It was still running like a champ.
I was born on October 23, 1984, this unit is only a couple months older than I am!!
The weak link on those units was the compression fittings on the line sets. The o ring frequently failed causing refrigerant leaks… but the aluminum coils were bulletproof… those industrial capacitors were also indestructible…
I was born in 84 so I can assure you all that the AC is NOT an antique, in fact it's in the prime of its life.