Were Drop Bars Faster at the Leadville Trail 100 MTB Race? Race Tactic and Power Analysis

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  • The Leadville Trail 100 is a mountain bike race... or is it? I decided to ride with drop bars on my hardtrail mountain bike this year to give me an aero advantage. Did it work out? Here is the full race analysis with power numbers.
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Komentáře • 291

  • @jakegleeson1554
    @jakegleeson1554 Před 9 měsíci +255

    Love the diss at gcn😂

  • @grantrutenberg2847
    @grantrutenberg2847 Před 9 měsíci +108

    Dylan, huge thanks and respect for your cutting edge application of the data and the kind education you give to all around you!

  • @randyhale4181
    @randyhale4181 Před 9 měsíci +132

    It will be amazing to see how many drop bars are at the Leadville race next year

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan Před 9 měsíci +8

      5:30 for Keegan and his drop bars next year

    • @ezramullen4551
      @ezramullen4551 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Said he tried drops and couldn't get the fit right? Flat bars are better off road anyway clearly

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan Před 9 měsíci +1

      @ezramullen4551 if they're better off road, everyone would be riding flat bars on their gravel bikes if they don't ride much pavement.

    • @pgn666
      @pgn666 Před 3 měsíci

      @@veganpotterthevegan off road =/= off pavement :) gravel road is a road :) single track is off road.

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan Před 3 měsíci

      @@pgn666 semantics. That's not what this conversation is about.

  • @mtbrichard
    @mtbrichard Před 9 měsíci +5

    A few miles southwest of Leadville, Tomac is sitting in his CZcams chair marveling at this new drop-bar mountain bike idea.

  • @kr7epj4x
    @kr7epj4x Před 9 měsíci +36

    Running it so close with Logan is great! He is a former US cross champ and spent like 3 years in the world tour!

  • @mattkretchmar6374
    @mattkretchmar6374 Před 9 měsíci +22

    Thanks Dylan. You continue to put out the best performance oriented bike content on the tube.

  • @gregtitus2467
    @gregtitus2467 Před 9 měsíci +17

    Outstanding race...not only for your performance, but for 1. having the courage to take a risk w/the dropbars & 2. nailing the balance between your self−perceived prerace form and the wattage goal you set for pacing. That seems to be an especially delicate decision, which you nailed, but I can see how easy it would be to miss-calculate. Well done! I enjoy your humility and objective evaluation of your performance. I never feel, when watching your videos, that you're arrogant or ego-driven. Backwards Hat is a very good feature of your videos...keep 'em coming! I enjoy the chuckles. :)

  • @Utaheyelid
    @Utaheyelid Před 9 měsíci +5

    Spotted you instantly on Columbine as you passed me with those drop bars. Gave you a shout out coming out of Golden Burro with your takeout. Thanks for the great videos. Your pacing advice worked great for me as well. Kept to my lower power at the start and did a negative split. Such a cool race.

  • @georgehugh3455
    @georgehugh3455 Před 9 měsíci +9

    *_Big Time Congrats, Dylan!!_** You beat Lance's '09 Course Record ride (and his **_"Patented Winning Formula"_** 😂) by over 2 mins!!*

  • @whip113
    @whip113 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Dylan, your Leadville setup finally convinced me to try out a drop bar mountain bike. I'm really liking it for my z2 endurance rides as I can mix in single track and gravel to keep it interesting.

  • @maritimezombie7684
    @maritimezombie7684 Před 9 měsíci +6

    Now Leadville is a Monster Gravel race! Love these Drop bar MTB updates!

  • @Andy-qp7eq
    @Andy-qp7eq Před 9 měsíci +6

    Love the monstercross look regardless of if it’s faster

  • @becausewin
    @becausewin Před 9 měsíci +2

    dude i love your race analysis

  • @USMC7178
    @USMC7178 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Very entertaining Dylan!

  • @djiembefolaDan
    @djiembefolaDan Před 9 měsíci +25

    Awesome content and forward thinking. Congrats for crushing it with dropbars!

  • @RoadHardened
    @RoadHardened Před 9 měsíci +21

    Best cycling content on youtube!! Absolutely love it! Keep it up!

  • @jrbowens
    @jrbowens Před 9 měsíci +3

    You made us wait a WHOLE WEEK for this recap...worth it. ;-)

  • @DonnyDonnMendoza
    @DonnyDonnMendoza Před 9 měsíci +1

    Love the video & the (not so) random pot shots taken at the big guns

  • @adamgurule1458
    @adamgurule1458 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Super cool Dylan! Thanks for sharing!

  • @TheEquineImage
    @TheEquineImage Před 9 měsíci +2

    Great content as always on my favorite cycling YT channel.

  • @michaelhotten752
    @michaelhotten752 Před 9 měsíci +8

    Another amazing job Dylan. You are quickly becoming a pacing guru. I know many Leadville citizen racers are wowed by what Keegan did but for real advice they should be looking at you and your strategy. It's way more applicable to the folks behind the Gold corral. Congrats and looking forward to that Leadville bike video.

  • @michaelstoecker4178
    @michaelstoecker4178 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Love your race reports!

  • @robertcatuara5118
    @robertcatuara5118 Před 9 měsíci +26

    Shots fired!! GCN look out.
    I like GCN for what they are. Just as I watch you. Completely different content but enjoyed just the same.

  • @matismud
    @matismud Před 9 měsíci +1

    Dylan, you are my hero🥇

  • @ekimviewmaster5010
    @ekimviewmaster5010 Před 9 měsíci +2

    ALWAYS a good day, when a new DJ race video breakdown comes out ❤

  • @JayRappa
    @JayRappa Před 9 měsíci +4

    Great job pacing again. I wish I had the same discipline on race day….

  • @brewster84067
    @brewster84067 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Great breakdown Dylan. Congrats on the spectacular race. Though I'm nowhere near your numbers, the pacing lessons you hammered home is something that I certainly can learn from. Keep the great videos coming!

  • @mikeherring6960
    @mikeherring6960 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Great race recap. I love the channel and your content. Keep up the good work.

  • @FrankAllen-fx2hw
    @FrankAllen-fx2hw Před 9 měsíci +2

    hey!!! where the love? GCN training videos changed my world

  • @fgiraffe8751
    @fgiraffe8751 Před 9 měsíci +11

    Awesome video, congrats on the fantastic ride. Of course "everyone" will probably focus on your use of drop bars which is somewhat unique for your skill set. But your discipline to stick to your pacing strategy is something any old fool could implement and have a huge positive impact on their day. Love your videos keep it up and good luck with the rest of your season.

  • @martinnavarre745
    @martinnavarre745 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Thank you Dylan for thinking outside the box ... one of your best videos. My only criticism is not using the word monstercross, but perhaps you are just too young - not your fault. Congrats on the excellent result!

  • @akersj1973
    @akersj1973 Před 6 měsíci

    Dylan, I wanted to let you know that I totally agree with your drop bar MTB setup. As a mid-pack age grouper I found myself at Big Sugar last year (2022) deciding between my Canyon hardtail with 2.2 RaceKings and a Cannondale CAADx with 40mm tires. Due to your recommendations on tires I went with the hardtail and could not have been happier. The suspension fork, larger tires, more relaxed geo all led to an awesome day on the bike. Only drawback was the flat bars for riding position and aero. Since then I have built up a steel hardtail with suspension fork and drop bars. I love this setup. At age 50 and not expecting to ever be in the "winning" group at most gravel events I cannot see any reason to race a different setup. I have the comfort, extra control on descents, traction in chunky or sandy stuff, and the list goes on. I can see the guys at the pro level wanting the lightest and fastest setup but for the majority of riders out there the drop bar MTB is the way to go!! Keep fighting the good fight sir!! 😁

  • @jeffreykluge401
    @jeffreykluge401 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Nice ride, Dylan! I really appreciate your videos. So many good digs. :)

  • @tomhenry3062
    @tomhenry3062 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Absolutely love your content, lad and these race breakdowns are awesome 👍

  • @peterknight7880
    @peterknight7880 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Another very well executed race. Kudos dude. 👍

  • @justinofboulder
    @justinofboulder Před 9 měsíci +2

    Not a bike racer but I always enjoy your content, especially the data and interest in optimization (athletically and equipment). Having run the LT100 several times, and ridden the LT100 MTB (Leadman in 2009) I would agree that pacing is so much more important at that altitude than at sea level. Congratulations on improving your time by so much this year!

  • @alainpfammatter8224
    @alainpfammatter8224 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Congrats for this excellent result👏

  • @ticklefritz5406
    @ticklefritz5406 Před 9 měsíci

    Nice work Dylan!

  • @Jazzysoda
    @Jazzysoda Před 9 měsíci +2

    Love the Segment backwards cap bit lol. Well done man! Field is getting seriously intense for sure......just bonkers!

  • @richardvaughn168
    @richardvaughn168 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Congratulations on a great race. Outstanding discipline in following your race plan.

  • @1cb2bc
    @1cb2bc Před 9 měsíci +2

    unusually good race recap / analysis. great videos - thanks dj

  • @robbchastain3036
    @robbchastain3036 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Congrats on running in the Top-20 in the series and thanks for giving us the play-by-play on your success at Leadville. And not to fuss or anything, but aren't there ten climbs on the course, five out and five back? And I really like your bike set-up, particularly getting low and fast with drop bars and a dropper post. And it was a bit cheesy of your competitor to snatch the place ahead of you after not helping, It would seem to be more in the spirit of gravel for a rider in that situation to get to the line like a low rider on Main Street on a Saturday night.

  • @marcfarrelly5944
    @marcfarrelly5944 Před 9 měsíci +5

    I am pro drop bar all the time, plenty of MTB courses I have done well on a CX bike

  • @OGillo2001
    @OGillo2001 Před 9 měsíci +13

    Sterling work and great breakdown. Hoping you can gain a few notches in the last few for the LGP. Cheers, Rory

  • @kazzz6666
    @kazzz6666 Před 9 měsíci +1

    What an amazing job on the bike and a perfect one on the video as well. Must take some time to build such videos but they're getting better and better like your power :-D Best recap's out there!

  • @PlumpyDelicioso
    @PlumpyDelicioso Před 9 měsíci +1

    Great info and content. Love watching this stuff. Congrats of the smart pacing and riding! You killed it

  • @jwfriar
    @jwfriar Před 9 měsíci +2

    Great video as always - enjoyed going in the journey with you. Great finish as well

  • @GerritD
    @GerritD Před 9 měsíci +4

    Watch Specialized come out with a dropbar 100mm travel mountain bike within a year. They'll call it the Leadville and it will MSRP for $6,500

    • @Mas421
      @Mas421 Před 9 měsíci

      Yes, and all the gravelbike-enthusiast will sell their bikes to follow the new hype

  • @ChrisWagner-bh3vn
    @ChrisWagner-bh3vn Před 9 měsíci +22

    I predict that at Sea Otter next year, Canyon,Specialized,Factor, etc..will all release a new "hybrid"MT/Gravel Bike with drop bars and Gravel tires. Or not.

    • @lechprotean
      @lechprotean Před 9 měsíci +4

      the correct and catchy name IMO is monster-gravel and I'm drifting towards such setup for my bike adventures where I don't know if I end up on fine fine gravel or a rough patch of desert or a gnarly singletrack. Which is almost never, but still.

    • @Emolokz
      @Emolokz Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@lechprotean isn't it monstercross?

    • @richeeg3271
      @richeeg3271 Před 9 měsíci +5

      Something like that kinda already exist. Look up Salsa Cutthroat, it's a drop bar bike that can fit 2,25" tyres. It's been specifically designed for the tour devide bikepacking event

    • @Emolokz
      @Emolokz Před 9 měsíci

      @@richeeg3271 insanely overpriced, honestly. We just need more 12x148 rear dropout frames rather than 12x142 frames for gravel imho. That makes them much better for being the best of both worlds.

    • @kokonanana1
      @kokonanana1 Před 9 měsíci

      750B tires? See: The Ride with Ben Delaney

  • @markokitzing4291
    @markokitzing4291 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Awesome review! And congrats for this great result!

  • @anthonyharris483
    @anthonyharris483 Před 9 měsíci +4

    I converted three of my mountain bikes to drop bar and love it.

  • @MaxwellPowers666
    @MaxwellPowers666 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Fun to watch you progress

  • @petenovak131
    @petenovak131 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Good content my man. appreciate the work you put in.

  • @christoflorenz9059
    @christoflorenz9059 Před 9 měsíci +1

    brutal. much respect!

  • @jamest2660
    @jamest2660 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Great video! I am always so amazed with how in depth your data analysis is and how you use that data to continue to prepare for future races. Good luck in final series races!

  • @Jinedan
    @Jinedan Před 9 měsíci +2

    Awesome job and way to innovate! Love your channel.

    • @bikeski970
      @bikeski970 Před 9 měsíci

      he didn't innovate it. he copied it from tour divide riders.

  • @LexDiaz89
    @LexDiaz89 Před 9 měsíci +3

    BHD is and will always be my spirit animal 🤣😆

  • @kellyperkins4139
    @kellyperkins4139 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Grats! Nice result and analysis, so hard to be disciplined enough to pace as you did.

  • @Ghostina1
    @Ghostina1 Před 9 měsíci +8

    Love that GCN bit!!!

  • @davidfidler6449
    @davidfidler6449 Před 9 měsíci +5

    The lower temperature this year played a big role in the faster times. Great effort!

    • @MarlowWhere
      @MarlowWhere Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@BGRANT777Xit was in 40s in Leadville that morning.

    • @davidspagnolo4870
      @davidspagnolo4870 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@BGRANT777Xare you in Leadville? Is it still August 12? Because if either of those things aren't the case it doesn't really matter what the temperature is where you are, because we're talking about the temperature in Leadville on August 12th, not "the general climate conditions at whatever random place BGRANT777X is"

  • @MrScottyt76
    @MrScottyt76 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the great content. Also great to hear about a few Aussies I have raced against mentioned in Brendan and Tasman (further back in the field though 😂)

  • @robrigg8045
    @robrigg8045 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the altitude power adjustment recommendations in the past couple vids. Going to implement a ceiling for BWR Utah this weekend since I'm arriving from sea level, along with Pathfinder Pro 47s since it's 92% Unroad. Really appreciate all the marginal and significant gains info!

  • @kivriel2660
    @kivriel2660 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Great video, great content!

  • @alolympic
    @alolympic Před 9 měsíci +2

    Another great video by providing in depth insights. But more importantly, great performance. Great experiment. Your results are great. And damn, the competition has got insane.
    I’d love you to do a deep dive into how and why the off road US racing scene has come to dominate and brought in so much pro talent. Is road racing dead forever?

  • @ijs14
    @ijs14 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Hilarious shade thrown at gcn. Should have been backwards hat Dylan I think lol

  • @AM-bl2cs
    @AM-bl2cs Před 9 měsíci +1

    Gravel bike with front suspension fork like the Revolt X or Canyon Grizl, or something racier like the endurace but again with a front sus 40mm fork, with a chunk gravel tyre on front and a fast roller on the rear would be ideal. Just run tubes with stans and high PSI and flats wont be an issue.

  • @mo-215
    @mo-215 Před 9 měsíci

    6 to 7 hours??? I'd be lucky to finish the thing. Total machine, Dylan

  • @grzegorzlabencki2970
    @grzegorzlabencki2970 Před 9 měsíci

    Good content. Thank you.

  • @Emolokz
    @Emolokz Před 9 měsíci +1

    Monstercross bikes freaking rock, honestly. Drop bar mtb's have always seemed pretty radical to me. If only there was some way to revolutionize the drop bar cockpit to be "almost" as controllable as the flat bar cockpit.

  • @allrounderbicycle7193
    @allrounderbicycle7193 Před 9 měsíci +3

    I’ve been waiting for this discussion forever. I tend to drop bar everything I have just cause I like the way they feel. I don’t race so don’t need to be the fastest through the switchbacks, but like to ride all day. I’ve been wondering what the threshold is to where drop bars become advantageous to MTB racers. Great video!

  • @unbridlededification
    @unbridlededification Před 9 měsíci +2

    Solid gcn burn

  • @danreynolds1142
    @danreynolds1142 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Badass, great video too!

  • @folkabuss
    @folkabuss Před 8 měsíci

    Would be great to see how your training for this season looked like. Thanks for the awesome vids.

  • @georgehugh3455
    @georgehugh3455 Před 9 měsíci +1

    *Shout out to Kerry Werner!* (local rider some time ago...)

  • @stevenporter9484
    @stevenporter9484 Před 9 měsíci

    Saw you briefly at Steamboat this past weekend. Cheers nicely done.

  • @OUTDOORS55
    @OUTDOORS55 Před 9 měsíci +8

    Im beginning to think backwards hat Dylan, and Dylan are the same person..🤔

  • @tychowagner612
    @tychowagner612 Před 9 měsíci +6

    Ran full speed to watch this

  • @mickelkobeck7376
    @mickelkobeck7376 Před 9 měsíci +2

    OKAY, enough....I DEMAND BHD get his own channel. LOL

  • @iancoleman4535
    @iancoleman4535 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Holy sh*t: 6:26:45! Nice ride

  • @mo-215
    @mo-215 Před 9 měsíci

    BHD cameo always good. And great videos.

  • @hugobci
    @hugobci Před 9 měsíci +28

    More than bike setup, pacing strategy is the clever move for everything in the biking, including optimizing fun, wich is commonly understimated even by leisure bikers

  • @solidstream13
    @solidstream13 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Awesome job. Amazing time. I’d love to see your power in Watts per kilo to be more relatable.

  • @tomvidler781
    @tomvidler781 Před 9 měsíci

    Good to see the Aussies hitting it out over there 🦘

  • @stevenagy7152
    @stevenagy7152 Před 9 měsíci +3

    BHD, “You should use the word pacing more frequently.”, seriously really good video and love the forward hat thinking in set up.

  • @PiquePictures
    @PiquePictures Před 9 měsíci

    Awesome video! Well done!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @gabeszilagyi254
    @gabeszilagyi254 Před 9 měsíci

    Another good one!

  • @jammankutch9385
    @jammankutch9385 Před 9 měsíci

    It’s all about being comfortable, that’s the most important “time factor” here.

  • @ukestjohn
    @ukestjohn Před 9 měsíci +1

    John Tomac lives!!

  • @jimvanbeek589
    @jimvanbeek589 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Wow. Impressive. You beat me by 5 hours.

  • @avocette
    @avocette Před 9 měsíci +2

    Dylan uses Plotaroute...
    Huge fan of the platform in terms of cataloguing bike routes especially on rural areas ❤❤

  • @kirkkettlebell6409
    @kirkkettlebell6409 Před 9 měsíci

    Awesome! Been following you since you started..best content on CZcams..how were the race kings? Are they durable?

  • @leonschumann2361
    @leonschumann2361 Před 9 měsíci +4

    love the GCN dig

  • @adamgaisser1875
    @adamgaisser1875 Před 9 měsíci

    Great video. Would love to know what and how you eat / drink during a race like this.

  • @yoda112358
    @yoda112358 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Curious why you didn't choose a drop bar with more flare as a (at least in theory) balance of an aerodynamic position in the hoods with more control

  • @pcro860
    @pcro860 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Crushed it Dylan. Curious if you factor weather conditions into pacing and time comparisons? There was a study on Western States that showed temperature was the best predictor of winning time.

  • @tyler.london
    @tyler.london Před 9 měsíci +1

    Full on John Tomac build!

  • @dubaa27
    @dubaa27 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Love the videos, keep them coming. good job in the race!

  • @keepingtherubberdown5715
    @keepingtherubberdown5715 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Dylan, I am looking at doing this to a hard tail I have. One question, when you put on the drop bars, shifters/levers did you also have to swap out the calipers or did you keep the calipers that you had on the mtb? Thanks man and keep rockin!

  • @PuffinPass
    @PuffinPass Před 9 měsíci +3

    I do dropbarmtb and on my local trails I get told it just won't work or that it will be slower on trail. I also ended up in a head to head for KOM on several of the downhill singletrack runs done by flatbars and still had room to improve easily. In some cases dropbars are the answer, there are some drawbacks if you are doing jumps but if it is an XC style race then there probably isn't any real reason not to. Like you said though it does take some time to get comfortable being pitched that far forward and riding the drops in technical sections, but once you do get comfortable it is a lot of fun and does have some notable advantages. If you are in a UCI race though they are banned if the race is considered a MTB class event.

    • @Mas421
      @Mas421 Před 9 měsíci

      so we need more subcategories

    • @PuffinPass
      @PuffinPass Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@Mas421 bound to happen whether we need them or not. Look at how specific music genres have become with their sub categories

  • @Aholeintheozone
    @Aholeintheozone Před 9 měsíci +1

    Beast!