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  • @Error454
    @Error454 Pƙed rokem +6

    Spot on. Have you folks ever been to The Cheesecake Factory? You go there thinking "I will eat some cheesecake" and then you find yourself flipping through a 40 page food menu until you are so exhausted that you pick the one thing that seemed familiar. Like dang, I didn't even come here for food. Then you remember the cheesecake, walk up to a window containing a dozen cakes and point to the one you want - easy. I want my music to be like the cheesecake counter, not the menu - thanks for helping me realize this.

  • @Morenoo
    @Morenoo Pƙed rokem +6

    "Start with something you know, something you're really confident with... and then start taking those risks, bending the rules, evolving...", Dude! You made me realize that I wanted to "evolve" to different genres before making sure my foundation was solid... Thanks for sharing and putting stuff like this out on the world!

  • @Bakobiibizo
    @Bakobiibizo Pƙed rokem +11

    I legitimately did not think of it this way. I have switched my thinking around in terms of networking and meeting other artist. I ask my self what can I provide to other artists. I give out guides, midi, samples, art, presets and project files pretty much immediately when I meet someone. It has helped me a ton in the community. But I dont have an audience and this totally clicks.
    I got into this with the sole goal of getting good enough to make music that I would enjoy that I never stopped to think of making the music that my potential audience would like. Thanks!

    • @HOLLASOUNDS
      @HOLLASOUNDS Pƙed rokem +1

      I can make all sorts of music but no following because I could not choose what type of music I should focus on and be known for so I have chosen what the majority of people who I directly demonstrated music to liked the most and that is what I will focus on publishing.

  • @ambientideas1
    @ambientideas1 Pƙed rokem +20

    Another well reasoned opinion. I really like your “tough love” approach. The democratization of music production via DAW tech is great, but not without big downsides; the lowest common denominator of music has gotten much lower and vast, much less artistic cream rises to the top. The same principles that guided Bach to Elvis to Hendrix to Aphex Twin still hold true. Find your focus and get really good at your craft. Even for us music for music’s sake hobbyists, there will be a point of reckoning regarding purpose.

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem

      Appreciate it!

    • @z-boss
      @z-boss Pƙed rokem

      For sure, well said! 👏

  • @vanmanjeff
    @vanmanjeff Pƙed rokem +19

    I’m glad I found your channel before I start recording in November. You’ve put a lot to ease in my mind and I can’t thank you enough

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem

      You are so welcome! Thanks so much for the Super Thanks!!

  • @WarrenPostma
    @WarrenPostma Pƙed rokem +4

    I like the idea that creative potential, muscular creativity, is INCREASED by discipline and restraint. Faffing about and doing whatever does not seem, to me, to be likely to go anywhere at all.

  • @cliffmoir6681
    @cliffmoir6681 Pƙed rokem +2

    Couldn’t agree more, there’s enough deviations within a single genre alone. I also equate hard work with finishing, who gets paid or recognized for completing half their work.

  • @jack3361
    @jack3361 Pƙed rokem

    Thank you so much!

  • @itsowlmygod
    @itsowlmygod Pƙed rokem +1

    Well said.

  • @clones1093
    @clones1093 Pƙed rokem

    Thanks!

  • @Ben-qg3bo
    @Ben-qg3bo Pƙed rokem

    Thank you, sir!

  • @HelloMockoff
    @HelloMockoff Pƙed rokem

    Soo good! ❀

  • @Beatsplanet.
    @Beatsplanet. Pƙed rokem

    Thank you..

  • @CybreSmee
    @CybreSmee Pƙed rokem

    Nailed it.

  • @don_aapo
    @don_aapo Pƙed rokem

    This is great advice. Thanks man 🎉

  • @PeteBidwell
    @PeteBidwell Pƙed rokem

    Awesome pov, inspired, thank you!

  • @D3vd9
    @D3vd9 Pƙed rokem

    Love u master

  • @davidhaolai
    @davidhaolai Pƙed rokem

    Solid sound advice đŸ‘đŸ»

  • @dvak_dj
    @dvak_dj Pƙed rokem

    Love it! đŸ–€đŸ–€đŸ–€ Thanks a lot!

  • @TheBoyWithTheGuitar
    @TheBoyWithTheGuitar Pƙed rokem +1

    thank you for this!

  • @SkeletonJacket
    @SkeletonJacket Pƙed rokem

    Puuuuffff awesome video!!!!

  • @GuidoGautsch
    @GuidoGautsch Pƙed rokem

    Awesome video! Now to find that one genre 😅

  • @playmakersmusic
    @playmakersmusic Pƙed rokem

    Thank you Mredrollo once again! As someone struggling to decide which genre, your videos really shone a light as always!

  • @polmorgan3533
    @polmorgan3533 Pƙed rokem +1

    Always good advice mate.

  • @keithpringle1103
    @keithpringle1103 Pƙed rokem +4

    I totally resonate with everything you said, another great down to earth video hitting the spot 👌

  • @Doty6String
    @Doty6String Pƙed rokem

    DICEPLINE DICEPLINE DICEPLINE..yessir

  • @TheFLMGang
    @TheFLMGang Pƙed rokem

    you literally spoken my words

  • @coldbumby
    @coldbumby Pƙed rokem

    Love the honesty and straightforwardness. I have been feeling like I need to take difficult steps and step out of my comfort zone to become better. It’s been hard, for example, forcing myself to practice keys 30 minutes a day.
    It brings a lot of resistance to remain consistent and maintain discipline but I know it’s the way I can become better faster.
    I love how you discuss the mental aspect of music creation. Hope you’re having a great day!

  • @lumpielump3576
    @lumpielump3576 Pƙed rokem +1

    thanks a lot for another great lecture about the REAl stuff - while most yt "creators" are just advertising the "hottest new must have plugins of the week", which leads us to endlessly installing stuff and browsing through presets, you are concentrating actually on the process of MAKING MUSIC. itÂŽs a pity we can only give just one thumps up here...

  • @AntoineVideoLibrary
    @AntoineVideoLibrary Pƙed rokem

    Thanks a million for this video. You have defined what "find your sound" really means. I heard this phrase a million times before but it was never explained so well.

  • @trevorgordonofficial
    @trevorgordonofficial Pƙed rokem +6

    Great video - couldn't agree more. Finding your sound and then focusing on the genre which aligns with it is key. It makes ones goals much more attainable as there is a clear direction and less confusion.

  • @NANI_Official
    @NANI_Official Pƙed rokem +4

    It's true. I worked 5 years just learning "how" with many genres but I understand I only make good music in specific genres. I narrowed it down even further and figured ok atleast these 3 genres atleast mesh well together and can be called something singular. A few weeks ago I put my 1st single single on spotify and now I'm like ok this is what I will make and grow a fan base around. Some issues I ran into making a bunch of different genres. When you sit down in the studio your head is filled with ideas that clash because you have no BPM restrictions, no key restrictions based on the mood of genre and your ideas flip ALOT. It just becomes noise in your head. I would agree that atleast if you are ready to reach an audience narrow it down to 1 or 2 genres that can mesh well together or just 1. Now one topic will.be polarized again, making music for yourself or for others. People probably need clarity on the fact that it doesn't have to be yourself or the audience. The goal is for both sides to like it but more importantly the audience. Some will say well if I don't like it how can I expect the audience to like it. I personally have been stuck there where I couldn't move forward because I was hyper focused on " would they like it " Idk I just feel like that one is a bit shifty.

    • @HOLLASOUNDS
      @HOLLASOUNDS Pƙed rokem +1

      There is a value in understanding other types of music because when you blend those into your target sound, you will sound unique but still relevant, how about mixing a topical Drum n Bass Rease bass into a RnB tune? I know odd right but I did it.

    • @NANI_Official
      @NANI_Official Pƙed rokem +1

      @@HOLLASOUNDS hahaha crazy. Yeah it's nice to atleast know a few styles so you can do stuff like that.

  • @TheMidnightBandit
    @TheMidnightBandit Pƙed rokem

    Just followed on SoundCloud. You've got a wonderful approach. Your music is also incredible. Will definitely stay up-to-date with your content. Thanks!!

  • @nannue
    @nannue Pƙed rokem +3

    Nicely done here. I can relate to all your key points. Everyone will get their rainy day or even monsoon season. Once it's over, it's like a massive reset, and everyone can go on about their thing again. It is a part of growing to face these torments and self-doubts along the way. No matter where you may think you are in your journey. This reminder is a gem, and take a lot of courage to come out and say it as it is. Thank you for doing the work.

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem

      Glad this resonated with you mate!

  • @clones1093
    @clones1093 Pƙed rokem +1

    These videos help me a lot man, I want to thank you for that.

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem +1

      Really glad to hear it. Helped me a lot in my own journey.

  • @Deerson
    @Deerson Pƙed rokem +1

    Thank you for great content mredrollo! You're opening people's eyes! (especially mine)

  • @ChiefTakinawa
    @ChiefTakinawa Pƙed rokem +2

    Thank you. I have been at this seriously for a decade. I have always had my hands in many genres, but I always had my core sound. However, you raise a valid point. I don't want to alienate my audience at all. I think I will continue within my established genres and work to unify my sound in a way where everyone feels pleased. Yet again, you've helped me with a big dilemma.

  • @dcamposliz
    @dcamposliz Pƙed rokem +1

    Another no bullshit, educational piece of content. Thanks bro

  • @alienhalfbreed1301
    @alienhalfbreed1301 Pƙed rokem

    Just found your channel and I like your approach. I am actually on the quest to find my signature sound. Thanks for your encouraging words

  • @jeremiahalexander5513
    @jeremiahalexander5513 Pƙed rokem

    It was tough to hear, but you’re 💯 right! And the restaurant analogy really nailed it home for me. This video has actually helped me make a tough decision. It’s a more difficult path, but more rewarding in the end. This video helped me realize who I am as an artist! Thank you!

  • @brokenorbitmusic9724
    @brokenorbitmusic9724 Pƙed rokem

    Just sent you a cup of coffee ☕ straight from Big ole Texas. Discovered your channel today and simply love the REALNESS of your content đŸ‘â™„ïžđŸ†đŸ‘đŸ»

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem

      Thank you so much. I took a wee break from CZcams but am back making regular content again. Thanks so much for the kind worlds and the support!!

  • @jones786
    @jones786 Pƙed rokem

    I think the message I'm hearing across your videos is about discipline . . . discipline of the mind. This is the thing that's in the rarest supply in our society. And ESPECIALLY on CZcams, social media, the internet in general. That's why your message feels so valuable.

  • @Paul-gp5om
    @Paul-gp5om Pƙed rokem +1

    I swear you're peeking at my brain when I'm not looking bro. Another astute and 'well-timed' video. Cheers

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem +1

      Hahaha that’s the idea I suppose!

  • @MrTanukiD
    @MrTanukiD Pƙed rokem +1

    Good advice. I too have wasted a lot of time bouncing around from genre to genre depending on my mood. Occasionally i still do, but it's an indulgence now rather than the norm.

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem +1

      Yeah, that indulgence is something that took me a long time to realise also. "Play" is super important, but that needs to be harnessed into "work" at some stage.

  • @repit5014
    @repit5014 Pƙed rokem +3

    I focus my attention to what is fun for me to do, which is improvisation with the loopstation.
    My thought is that having fun is infectious and being comfortable making stuff from scratch on stage is a really good foundation to build upon for me.
    I do have some kind of vocal harmony shamanic style.
    But you are right that it cannot be JUST fun and impro if I want to get somewhere with this.
    So I started to practice good ideas I had to make them sound.. actually well intonated and in tune..
    I also need to write more lyrics so my brain gets used to lines that actually make sense and I can focus more on hitting the notes.
    Actually I think I should show my music to more people, like yourself and get feedback where to work on getting it to sound more serious. So see you in a videochat maybe, haha.
    Thanks for the great videos and advice!

  • @anonymerhiphop5427
    @anonymerhiphop5427 Pƙed rokem

    That is 100 % correct! If you can do everything, you can do nothing. Anyone who says anything has no idea. Thanks for your content. đŸ™đŸŒ

  • @Shades289
    @Shades289 Pƙed rokem

    Your hitting home with these uploads Bro

  • @DrWasabiBeats
    @DrWasabiBeats Pƙed rokem +1

    You have mentioned very valid points, I have faced many times with that feeling of doing it for me...or/and...for an audience.
    I think Art represents freedom among many other things, and I love the idea of sitting down without preconceived ideas about what I'm going to do. But it can also be a veeeery lonely world without an audience that identifies with something more specific from ourselves. For me...the problem in building an audience is not so much about creating restrictions about genres (which actually could be good for develop more creative ideas), but you also have to do a lot of non-musical stuff around it, maybe spending more time on that...than on the music creation itself. I'm still struggling with these ideas, it's interesting that you talk about it and share your experiences, greetings!!

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem +2

      Thanks for sharing. Yeah, the “just make art” is fun and still a part of the process but eventually the art needs to turn into work to really breed results.

  • @TheTheimpossible
    @TheTheimpossible Pƙed rokem +2

    Literally my last six months studying library music in ten minutes. 😅 Great video as always man. Thank you!

  • @nuellebeats1774
    @nuellebeats1774 Pƙed rokem

    Before watching this, I just realized that I’ve been in Area 51, although i could say I’ve been in between, making for myself and for others and sold some as well.
    Anytime i connect more with the music even if as simple as possible, people tend to feel the same energy while if I’m just having fun creating more complicated stuff, it’s just like meh.
    You just cleared all my doubts.
    Thanks for all your gems Mr. Edollo!

  • @lundsweden
    @lundsweden Pƙed rokem +4

    In my opinion the struggle can be part of the fun. But you have to frame (or reframe) this in your mind. When I was about 20-ish I decided I would just make music for me, and if others liked it then great. How do I make music for other people? How do I know what they are gonna like? Ok, I guess in the back of my mind I'm always thinking about trends, other music people do like and incorporating that into what I do.

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem +2

      The struggle is fun you are right! If it were easy I’d quickly lose interest. There are commonalities amongst music that “works”. Shoot for that and you should be fine :)

  • @somneales
    @somneales Pƙed rokem +2

    i’m currently working with a team that’s making a mod for the game Katana Zero and i have the task of making tracks in the style of Katana Zero. ever since i started working with other people, doing music on other peoples demand, my productivity and overall production skills have improved. i stoped trying to be super-hyper creative (wich usually ended up in a shitty, abandoned project) and stuck to the simple requests i had been given (wich resulted in the bois being super impressed and satisfied with my work). it is also very gratifying to hear good feedback from your audience. i now know what it means to cater to an audience.

    • @halaaal
      @halaaal Pƙed rokem

      Katana Zero soundtrack is bomb.
      May I ask what's the name of the mod that you are working on?

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem +3

      I love this. Stop trying to be "super-hyper creative"! Such a good way to put it!

  • @j.du6
    @j.du6 Pƙed rokem

    Word

  • @ixradivide
    @ixradivide Pƙed rokem

    thanks for elucidating, i think subject merited the follow up, it's a common struggle. thought provoking points for sure. the ego is always meddling along the way eh?

  • @Rhekluse
    @Rhekluse Pƙed rokem

    I agree with this 100%. I have grown more as an artist & producer by being involved in likeminded music communities, learning & developing the necessary skills & techniques for those genres. It helps by pinpointing the focus on specific processes & techniques involved during the early and late stages of a track's creation. This understanding can then be applied to other ventures. It's crazy that you actually felt inclined to acknowledge the people who do not understand or welcome an alternate opinion. It seems like a waste of time on your part, but it did help make a decent video. Cheers!

  • @cfromtrack
    @cfromtrack Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci

    You change my mind... When I become the artist I want, I will remember you

  • @thecalver
    @thecalver Pƙed rokem

    Brilliantly put mate. Very clear ! Appreciate you spelling this out for a blockhead like me 😂

  • @angermanagementstudios
    @angermanagementstudios Pƙed rokem +1

    Pop punk is my bread and butter. I work in many genres, I even mixed a grime record last year! But pop punk is what I love, it’s what I play in my own band and it’s what I excel at. Therefore it’s 75 percent of my work.

  • @SimpleLifeSpoof
    @SimpleLifeSpoof Pƙed rokem +16

    If you want to be commercially successful then you must treat your music as a product. If you are more into artistic side of music and you care more about art than commercial success then go with art.

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem +7

      In my opinion art is where ideas start and then it just turns into work. Art is easy, work is hard.

  • @BrianWilliamsBJW
    @BrianWilliamsBJW Pƙed rokem

    I don’t think I’ve watched a video of yours without crying halfway through.

  • @jean-baptiste9230
    @jean-baptiste9230 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci

    That’s why i haven’t released anything, but i am finally agreeing to make progressive deep techno with keys, though i have made wonderful tracks coming out of passion and that always resonate with people no matter if you are your house in order, i think it’s totally normal to explore different genre when you aren’t sure about the style you want to go for at first and being more channel in the direction is part of the evolution of a producer, some people need time to get it


  • @amarro
    @amarro Pƙed rokem

    Thanks

  • @Pelu_lorenasantamaria
    @Pelu_lorenasantamaria Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci

    AĂșn no sĂ© nada ,pero lo sĂ© todo . Pronto serĂ© tremenda dj ❀

  • @genuinefreewilly5706
    @genuinefreewilly5706 Pƙed rokem +1

    Whatever sounds good to me. Going over some of my older mixes I can hear improvements to my brand in terms of technique and skills I've picked up. Ive been using the same DAW Reaper for over 4 years now and still figuring out new things but I am pretty cozy with it.
    For the listener and myself I try to nail the right levels, add some sonic candy, wide spacious mixes and movement in an attempt to keep the music at least interesting.
    I definitely indulge and experiment maybe too much and go to left field and often don't realize it but that's also part of my signature
    While Ive been playing the piano and keyboard for decades its only in the last 6 months Ive started to release and distribute music to the usual outlets on a fairly regular basis
    I havent a clue who my audience is, and I cant afford a real marketing plan, not at this time

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem +1

      With a clear direction and discipline your music will market itself!

  • @Amatteus
    @Amatteus Pƙed rokem +4

    Yes. My style is exploring my heart and my feelings and doing what is emotional to me., what sounds good to me, My style is to be true to myself, be me, and enjoy expressing my inner feelings..One day I can be at the piano with a piano piece another day can be with pop, another day playing guitar, sometimes it sounds melodic , sometimes, more rhythmic, etc.. whatever it comes by mixing sounds that sound good to me.. If it sounds good, if I like it, then itÂŽs ok. I do not copy the way people talk, and their accents when they talk, I am not going to copy and stick to a specific genre either. Genres are classifications made by people. Expresing my feeling and enjoyment is my thing. This is my genre. if people like it or not I do not give a fuck. But I am not going to make so or so just to be liked by more people. I do not need to be liked. I need to be me and enjoy my music.

    • @Amatteus
      @Amatteus Pƙed rokem

      @dfasht Thanks for the feedback. So far I do not see the point or find a better way to describe my approach to music. I will be glad to hear your ideas. An external point of view might be more accurate than mine. Feel free to come to my studio or connect with me by zoom, teams, skype, or meet, to learn who I am, and to listen to the music I make and how I make it. You might tell me things that I might not know now. Would love to hear your opinion.

  • @DonLuca27
    @DonLuca27 Pƙed rokem +2

    Amen.
    One thing I'm curious though (and this is coming from someone who has released ZERO music in his life): let's say I'd like to develop my sound, (re)create a genre, say... "pianocore", catchy loops played on piano with heavy 909 beats behind, I find my audience, they like what I do, I like what I do, but I like it so much that I get stuck in it and can't move forward, outside of that comfort zone I've created.
    And now all my music sounds alike (which, to be completely honest, it's something which could be said about A LOT of top tier, successful artists) and I can't help but doing the same things with the same sounds over and over again and, eventually, a (maybe big) part of my audience gets bored of my stuff and moves on.
    What should I do?
    Risk trying something different and potentially losing a part of my audience (but maybe gaining new followers!) or just keep doing what I've learned at doing best and keep my fanbase?
    As always, thanks for your video.
    Also, please bring back your intro. I absolutely loved it and it really helped getting the viewer in the right mood.

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem +4

      Honestly it’s a lot of overthinking to begin with. These decisions will be super easy to make with experience. Got to start somewhere and develop from there. Hope we get to hear some piano core from you soon!

  • @birdseye2239
    @birdseye2239 Pƙed rokem +1

    I think it takes some years of messing around with this or that to get your bearings as a producer in general but your right, eventually you need to choose a direction and go all in on it. With that being said, producers that got into producing because they wanted to make one and ONLY one style of music have a leg up

  • @ruell.x3202
    @ruell.x3202 Pƙed rokem

    one thing i will say as a producer for about 6 years now, is to just do what you like, but also think about what the audience/crowd is going to want. DO BOTH. i only have a few songs released as of now LOL but by doing so i have a beat i sent to a rapper and got over 100k views but after that i felt like i needed to switch genres and i did cause the beat was trash and i felt like i needed change. because thats what i wanted to do. But still kept in mind what the people want when i was making my music. I stared off making trap Beats and did that about 5+ years. i can now produce any kind of rap/hiphop/rnb/pop style genres, and now am currently doing edm stuff, mostly progressive house or dubstep. And Also learned engineering. im Pretty decent at that. but my point is Keep both in mind. and also you have to constantly explore new stuff to sound different. BUT IT TAKES A LONG TIME. also just keep learning new stuff and applying it cause that way you are able to know a genre so well that you can basically reverse engineer stuff HAHA and start forming your own craft. BUT, id reccomend sticking with a gernre for a while, and your musical journey is gonna be long and not everyone is gonna be lucky enough just to blow up in 2 years, and like he said, THIS IS HARD WORK. and he's totally right haha

    • @ruell.x3202
      @ruell.x3202 Pƙed rokem

      LINK TO SONG WITH 100K VIEWS
      czcams.com/video/Uf5LStJ42UI/video.html

  • @janemederos2949
    @janemederos2949 Pƙed rokem

    Im completely BURNED OUT thinking on this

  • @prestonjackson9086
    @prestonjackson9086 Pƙed rokem +1

    I don’t release and rarely does anyone hear my work.I still try to make it as if someone might like it from a pop rock perspective
    Music does have rules that can be broken
    but have a reason

  • @bongopro4401
    @bongopro4401 Pƙed rokem

    Flume is a monster that not even the Avengers can kill 😆 way ahead

  • @FormulaXFD
    @FormulaXFD Pƙed rokem +1

    Huh. My want is to made good mid-school (2000s era) trance. I've been at it for about 5 years now, and only recently has the music started to sound "correct." The thing is, when a friend asks about another genre, I have been able to knock out that other style mainly by figuring out how it differs from what I 'kind of know' how to do.

  • @stephenstgo
    @stephenstgo Pƙed rokem

    Big fan of calling out the false sense of security that “I am good at this” when one is actually not. It takes a lot of hard work.

  • @kurglekreutzer6344
    @kurglekreutzer6344 Pƙed rokem +3

    I think people tend to work with a subconscious need to have at least some people tell them that they like what they've done. This need for some approval creates often an idea that the thing worked on needs to be perfect in its genre and if it is not, it can't be any good! So when those doubts hit, it is good to remember the older bands and how they had make records really fast back in the day. They were some times even told to write a song on the spot. Black Sabbath comes to mind and I think they wrote the song, Paranoid in a few minutes before recording it. It is probably a song that they would not have released like it is, had they had time to think about how simple it is! The same happened to AC/DC on the Back in Black record. They apparently had still room for one more song, so Malcolm Young took a little break and wrote, Rock and Roll Ain't Noise Pollution and it ended on the second highest selling album of all time! Even the song Back in Black came out of a doubt that Angus Young had whether the thing he was playing was any good. Malcolm said to him yes it is, and then they wrote the rest of it and the album was named after that song!

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem +1

      I love this. Can you summarise what the over arching point is you’re making? Sorry, just finding it hard to fully understand.

    • @kurglekreutzer6344
      @kurglekreutzer6344 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@mredrollo ​ @mredrollo Basically that you will most likely find your sound by doing and not second guessing what you are doing. It may not be easy to commit to something that you are not sure of whether it's any good, but it will be better than to not finish it! (I can't guarantee that they end up on hit records, though)

  • @williambrandon9660
    @williambrandon9660 Pƙed rokem

    as a musician and dancer, more artist need to hear this, stop making art solely for yourself, stop participating in the arts, for yourself, art really ain't about the person who made it
    so true
    i need to work on this as a musician

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem +1

      It’s the “tree falling in the woods” type scenario đŸŒČ

  • @DN-wy3ud
    @DN-wy3ud Pƙed rokem

    I needed to be called out like this 😭

  • @intranexine8901
    @intranexine8901 Pƙed rokem

    I think this overlooks the fact that many listeners don't like hard genre lines either, I want to make music for people with a similar taste to mine and I really like genrebending heavie bass/electronic music like Camellia, Awfulless and Zekk, now those aren't really tied to a formal genre but they have a very specific sound that I crave and that I think there should be more of, so I am striving to learn how ho make that, and I'm pretty sure that if I find an audience with that, then I don't have to worry about balancing my wishes with the ones of my audience. Is there a better way to find an audience of likeminded people with similar tastes, then to make the music you'd like to hear?

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem +1

      I totally get where you are headed. The take away from this is focus. Call it what ever you want. Just pick something specific and develop it over time. Your audience will grow if you as an artist are confident in what you are doing.

  • @guidopardini3011
    @guidopardini3011 Pƙed rokem

    Hard pills to digest but fucking true đŸ’Ș

  • @anthemsjam
    @anthemsjam Pƙed rokem

    This man speaks truth. I disagree with the comment from house of candy.

  • @vincentizghra6144
    @vincentizghra6144 Pƙed rokem +2

    It might be helpful when starting out, which seems to be what you're going. But as someone who writes for video games a lot I get to write a lot of different styles. My solo projects are often limited to some stylistic choices but I also have projects where I do many different genres. As a fusion artist, which is what I mostly identify as, it makes complete sense for me personally. But taking departures and doing "style studies" can help tremendously with bringing new interesting elements to your listeners. I don't think it delegitimizes you as an artist or a producer.

    • @HOLLASOUNDS
      @HOLLASOUNDS Pƙed rokem +1

      He is talking about development of being a artist musician with a signature sound, if I was making game music or other music then Me and My artist name and style is not really relevant because people who hear your music in a game are not looking for the one who made the music.

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem +2

      Not at all. And yes, experienced and professional musos don’t need this advice. Most of the “pros” who make cross genre music saw this as an attack or something. Not in the slightest. Just about be self secure in your own direction as an artist.

    • @vincentizghra6144
      @vincentizghra6144 Pƙed rokem

      @@mredrollo I think it's good that some reacted a bit as if it were an attack. I tried to listen carefully to your arguments and the entire message. Somehow, the fact that I reacted is probably a sign that I need to, at the very least, re-evaluate if we are spreading ourselves too thin.
      Had this in the back of my head for a few days now and I know I am spreading myself too thin, and I should do something about it. So, big thanks, keep challenging us like this!

    • @vincentizghra6144
      @vincentizghra6144 Pƙed rokem

      @@HOLLASOUNDS Thanks for the thoughtful response. You're right. Many game composers are trying to make themselves a "name" with a particular style, regardless of how vague and how few people notice it. I'm still searching for my place and feeling lost most of the time, so maybe I just really needed to hear this message. Thanks again

  • @AardvarkDream
    @AardvarkDream Pƙed rokem

    A fanbase is going to consist of people who like listening to a certain sort of music. Death metal people like death metal, disco people like disco, rap people like rap, techno people like techno, etc. If your own genres are all over the place, you aren't going to attract a fanbase. You'll attract people who like "that one song you did", but they won't like your stuff across the board, because the other songs aren't going to be in the genres they like. You are right: if you want to attract a fanbase, you have to pick a style, because when someone likes one song of yours it's more likely they will like other songs of yours if they are in the same style as the first one they liked. Write for yourself? You'll be your only fan. Write FOR a fanbase, you'll attract a fanbase.

  • @kaisersnap
    @kaisersnap Pƙed rokem

    You make me seriously consider starting over with a clean slate đŸ„” Or do you think it’s possible to narrow down once you’ve already made the mistake of going too broad with your back catalogue?

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem +1

      I feel your pain! Never too late mate. You’re the master of your own destiny! 😂 pick some that really resonates with you begin that disciplined approach. Or infuse what you’ve learned so far into something unique. The key is to focus and stay consistent with your sound so that it can develop.

    • @kaisersnap
      @kaisersnap Pƙed rokem

      @@mredrollo amen 🙏

  • @its_los
    @its_los Pƙed rokem +1

    I apply a 60/40 ratio; 60% for me, 40% for them.

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem +1

      Sounds good. Do you find that ratio has been good at building your fan base?

  • @polmorgan3533
    @polmorgan3533 Pƙed rokem

    the other thing i strugggle with is feeling i'm quite good but just not good enough.then i get better as i progreess but still feel i'm just out of reach of being good enough....

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem

      Perhaps we need some more obtainable goals. Something within your reach and then slowly reach for the next one.

    • @polmorgan3533
      @polmorgan3533 Pƙed rokem

      @@mredrollo Thanks for the advice, always good thoughts. thank you.

  • @kp8923
    @kp8923 Pƙed rokem +2

    Hell yeah. I love this video. I wish someone had told me this when I was 21 or even right at the start at 15. I finally figured it out a few years back and *my god* it's such a relief when you let go of the snowflake delusions and make something not as original as you hoped but actually listenable.

  • @Fred_X_Tj
    @Fred_X_Tj Pƙed rokem

    8/1/2022 I guess I have to stick with what I am good at. My foundation is starting with Trance, and no more experimental music.

  • @visionx272
    @visionx272 Pƙed rokem

    At the end of the day music is a language, and you need to think about what your potential audience understands. For instance there is no point speaking German to Chinese people and expect[ng it to make scence. I get it, being tied to a Genre can seem soul destroying to an artist, but often Limitation is the mother of invention. I found an angle to approach Ambient that I thought people that are into Meditating would appreciate so I focus on that nearly 100%, and the response from that Audience so far has way exceeded my expectation, and even though I enjoy making that style of music, sometimes I wish I could just allow myself to relax and just make a DnB banger for fun, but it doesn't serve my over arching goal, which is to make a living with music and to connect to people through sound. Years ago, When I played in a Pub Rock band. they didn't care that I made DnB either, but I loved interacting with my audience playing Guitar. And back when when I djed Drum and Bass, no one on the dancefloor wanted to hear House, or rock etc...At no point did I feel I was selling out to get a reaction from a crowd, because the truth is I love making music music way more than I like any specific Genre. There is nothing wrong with doing different styles of music, just do them as seperate projects and just realise that you will probably have rebuild your brand each time.

  • @edmc2
    @edmc2 Pƙed rokem

    🩄

  • @yonigeller3368
    @yonigeller3368 Pƙed rokem +3

    I have a big problem with exactly this topic. I want to make compelling electronic music that's also full of live drums and other live acoustic instrument performances in a sort of semi-EDM semi-jazz fusion genre. Nobody likes it but I can't just make EDM and I can't just make fusion. I'm struggling with this sort of weird musical cognitive dissonance. I haven't found a way to bridge the 2 in a way that's really compelling yet and I feel I don't know how to make something that will satisfy someone else. Maybe it's best to just do whatever I want regardless, but I do wish I had an audience of course... more cognitive dissonance.

    • @tekhnopranaexploratoryelec1445
      @tekhnopranaexploratoryelec1445 Pƙed rokem +1

      I so hear you! I'm like that...

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem +2

      Sounds f*cking amazing mate. I want to hear/see this! I suggest trying to put some limitations on the sound so it’s not so eclectic. But a fusion sound of jazz/electronic sounds perfect. Doesn’t matter what you call, just focus on it and get good at it.

  • @AardvarkDream
    @AardvarkDream Pƙed rokem

    I would also add to the other comment I just posted that if someone really wants to do more than one style of music, that's fine, but maybe they should keep them separate. Like, under different accounts on SoundCloud or whatever. If you are writing classic country music AND you like doing harpsichord minuets, well... the two groups of listeners aren't going to overlap much and probably aren't going to like each others stuff. So don't mix them together in the same list of songs. When I buy an album from some group, I actually expect every song on that album to more or less be in the same style, and not be some weird mix of genres.

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem

      Very. Well. Said.

    • @hahathatisfunnybro
      @hahathatisfunnybro Pƙed rokem

      Yea, you want to make a cohesive album with consistency, not a weird playlist mixed with all your favourite genres that YOU like

  • @allurn1804
    @allurn1804 Pƙed rokem +3

    While I like some of the points you've made in this video, there's a good chance that you may not enjoy the same style of music that your audience enjoys. This may cause you to lose motivation in doing something you don't enjoy, but others enjoy. Probably there's a bit of internal and external validation required. Thoughts?

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem +1

      I think you'd quickly lose interest in music if you were making music that you didn't enjoy. That's not really the point.

    • @allurn1804
      @allurn1804 Pƙed rokem

      @@mredrollo then it's a matter of finding music that you enjoy making and that your audience also enjoys listening to. It's tough!

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem +1

      @@allurn1804 The video is kind of backed up by the fact that we like making ALL kinds of music. So yeah, pick something and go for it!

    • @allurn1804
      @allurn1804 Pƙed rokem

      @@mredrollo 100%

  • @HOLLASOUNDS
    @HOLLASOUNDS Pƙed rokem +1

    Correct in order to get a following for what style of music you make, you need to narrow down the range of what you put out there, I can make Hiphop, Drum n Bass, Trance, Techno and other stuff but there is no identity, no sound I'm known for. I think it's best to do one type of sound, get a following and if you want to do more then make each there own channel.

  • @TachyBunker
    @TachyBunker Pƙed rokem +1

    I agree with you but I think it's not rigid as the words say. So just focusing a few genres instead of one or one million would be what I'd advise.

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem +1

      Thanks for sharing. Let me know how that works out đŸ’Ș

  • @D_Sweet
    @D_Sweet Pƙed rokem

    Lol, just dig.

  • @polmorgan3533
    @polmorgan3533 Pƙed rokem

    I spend all my time writing and recording but nobody ever really hears my tunes as i don't post them so ive got to the point where i really cant tell whats ''good'' any more. whos to say whats good? Ive defenatly painted myself into a bit of a corner.

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem

      Keep at it mate and see if you can narrow down where those pain points are. Focus focus focus.

  • @thearno2885
    @thearno2885 Pƙed rokem

    There’s art for arts sake and money for Gods sake!

  • @sentimentaltrash
    @sentimentaltrash Pƙed rokem

    So I do think there’s a lot of truth to this; but I will also make the argument in the comments of style != genre. One example I can think of who is multigenre; who has just started, on an upward tangent of finding success is Kessler, however if you look at his productions, they’re generally uk bass influenced and have some kind of bittersweet melodic backing.
    I think Gen z especially likes to be genreless however, what I’ve seen on young producers finding success is their music tends to inhabit the same world. You might not know what genre you’re going to get, but you do know what style 😅!

    • @sentimentaltrash
      @sentimentaltrash Pƙed rokem

      I think small business argument of “chose 1 unique selling point” and stick to that. As long as your hitting your USP each time, I’d argue it’s within style

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem +1

      Not sure I fully understand but yeah, it doesn’t matter what you call it. Just stick to it.

  • @peadookie
    @peadookie Pƙed rokem

    100% agree. The proverbial "you," by and large, is not a special snowflake. Learn how people who are better than you do it first.

  • @jfn467
    @jfn467 Pƙed rokem

    Nowadays signature sound is sold as plugins... "Capturing the signature sound of multi-award-winning engineer and producer Joe Chiccarelli", I found in an ad online some days ago, fantastic, so if all producers in the world that are worth mentioning, release plugins like this, we all will have AMAZING sound in the end ... đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Pƙed rokem

      I saw the same ad. I almost vomited on my phone. đŸ€ź

    • @jfn467
      @jfn467 Pƙed rokem

      @@mredrollo A common concept these days, and completely ridiculous....

  • @andrewmelchor7698
    @andrewmelchor7698 Pƙed rokem

    Someone once told me that a man with many talents is usually a master of none. well this may be a generalization for the most part, it’s not entirely false. A man with many talents can be valuable, but when you get down to the nitty-gritty and you really require the expert in a certain field, you’re not gonna call the jack of all trades. Oh, sure, people love to take shortcuts all the time. they’ll call their uncle so-and-so to fix our car, but They know deep down inside they really should be consulting a mechanic. I think the same holds true here. at present, I cannot play “Playing God” by Polyphia, and I have no problem making that admission. I have 30 years of musical experience, but I cannot play that song. The reason is, that while I like that song, I don’t feel the need to learn how to play it. it would take hours (Perhaps days) of my time I could otherwise devote to the things that I have already dedicated myself to. That’s time I cannot get back. Widespread myself so thin? it’s not a question of freedom; it’s a matter of exercising that freedom responsibly.