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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2024
- With Warren getting so excited about the new Bolt Action coverage we have planned he roped in Alessio Cavatore from Warlord Games to have a look at five of the best German Tanks of World War II. What do you guys consider the best tank of this era?
I didn't choose the StuG life, the StuG life chose me...
actually, fun fact, the Stug was actually THE most effective fighting vehicle in terms of killing tanks of the second world war and was arguably one of the most effective fighting vehicles overall of the second world war.
also a little learning for those who don't understand why the Stug or other things that seem like tanks are not actually tanks. An armored fighting vehicle's designation is determined by it's battlefield role. A tank is an armored, tracked general purpose fighting vehicle. A tank fits into every role on the battlefield, from supporting infantry, to assaulting infantry, to anti-tank, to ambush and to even being used as a form of short range artillery support. The Stug is, as alessio said, a tank destroyer or an assault gun(depending on the variant of Stug and its armament) which a tank destroyer is designed SPECIFICALLY for taking out tanks and an assault gun is designed SPECIFICALLY for assault or supporting infantry. many other types of fighting vehicles and their rolls exist as well. But that is why just because something is armored and tracked doesn't mean its a tank.
+anthony sauls my favourite is the panther G version.
TheLordhorationelson The Panther ausf G was a great tank, arguably the overall best tank of the war. However it was very costly and time consuming to make. I would make the argument that Germany would have been suited better to just mass producing Panzer IV ausf G - J variants so they could get some numbers on their side (as they already had the advantage of technology) but then again there is a lot of contributing factors and many things could have effected Germany's victory or defeat in the war and honestly as a historian, in my opinion the time consuming and cost of a Panther isn't very high on that list. So I suppose that was all a moot point, but I just wanted to explain a bit why im not the biggest fan of the Panther, I personally prefer the Panzer IV ausf G - J varients. still the Panther is a magnificent tank though, a marvel of engineering, way ahead of its time.
Look up the costs, Panther cost a little more than the PzIV and a heck of a lot less than a Tiger. Tiger I was originally designed with a turret much closer to the Panther turret with 75mm L/70.
+Anlushac11 I have already known the price difference and yes you are very correct the Panther wasn't that much more expensive than the Panzer IV. Here however, is my point. The Panther tank cost around 117,100RM and around 6,000 Panther tanks were produced. The Panzer IV cost around 103,462RM and around 8,553 were produced. That means instead of the 6,000 Panthers the Germans could have produced 6,790 more Panzer IVs. Now 790 more tanks isnt a big deal but its still a much bigger deal than you think.
The Tiger I cost around 285,800RM and there were around 1,347 built. That means that an additional 3,720 Panzer IVs could have been produced with that money.
The Tiger II cost around 320,000RM to produce and there were around 492 produced. This means an additional 1,490 Panzer IVs could have been produced.
Provided my math is correct that means if the Germans would have stopped with the Panzer IV they could have produced an additional 12,000 Panzer IVs. Now it is true that the Panther was a superior tank for not much more cost, however, the point is that the Panzer IV was fine for the job, it was equal to or superior to anything the Allies had. However the allies had a massive numerical superiority due to the fact that 49,234 Shermans, 35,120 T-34/75s, and 4,016 Cromwell tanks (as well as other tanks and tank varients) had been produced by the Allies during the second world war. While it is true that German troops and tank crews were generally superior to Allied counterparts the massive numerical inferiority meant that they needed to have all the numbers they could possibly get on their side, Since they failed to win the war quickly which was their only other hope.
@@xXThePanzerXx The problem is that it doesn't just take money to build a tank but also steel, machinery and fuel to run it, not to forget you have to train a crew to man it.
I doubt Germany could have provided these things for thousands of more tanks.
I didn't choose the StuG life, I was drafted by the Wehrmacht
Warren i think your energy for the game, the miniatures is excellent.
Keep up the great work.
You are like what a player that wants to play is\should be like.
Great job guys.
I have to say the Hetzer is one of my favourite WW2 vehicles the look, the power awesome
Someone should let Warren know that Wittman started on Stugs. That should put him over the top.
Another set of amazing models! The stug is like the German Tie Fighter, with the two side armor plates and so, they are awesome!
Looking forward to the Tank Battles book but not as much as Warren and Alessio's Top 5 American tanks! 5, Sherman, 4, Sherman, 3, Sherman, 2, Sherman, 1, (don't want to spoil it) ;) good vid guys
Panzer IV, my favourite of all German tanks. Liked that painted one at 10.48, complete with Panzer Lehr markings, lovely.
Why does he always get the tracks backwards?
actually Wittmann was killed by a Canadian Firefly (there would have been nothing left of the tank if a Tiffy had hit it with the rockets)
Recently watched a documentary on Wittmann's last fight. The historian came up with some excellent information and surveyed the location of the action. His conclusion was that Wittmannn's Tiger was destroyed by a Sherman of the Sherbourg Fusiliers, a Canadian unit. The fatal shot penetrated on the left rear radiator plate, if I remember correctly. I was rather surprised, but on seeing the evidence, it was pretty compelling.
And he wasnt the Best Germán tanker..... There were some better ones.... But with less propaganda because he was a real convinced nazi.
@@landerviguera9575 The "kill counts" for pretty much every "panzer ace" are the works of fiction and should not enter any discussion on the capabilities of ww2 vehicles.
15:08 Schürzen mounting brackets
I am down to face your 22 STUG force, but you will have to come to Denver CO to do it!
The Red Baron? Everyone knoews who killed The Red Baron ... it was Snoopy!
Wittman was good, but Kurt Knispel and his 168 confirmed kills would like to have a word with you, Warren.
Wittmann had 138 tank kills and 132 paks killed (which where much harder to destroy than tanks)
Knispel was a pancer-ace too, no doubt
Presbiter
Wittmann may have been personally very good with his Tiger, but his actions often put his Kompanie in danger and got them knocked out. It was no surprise his luck ran out like it did.
and then theres Otto Carius
no kurt is number one he has been awarded the iron cross and he has the world record of spoting and killing a t34 at 3km
@@mathias2992 his luck didn't run out, he was impatient and got ambushed on 2 sides
great show!
i love how warren talks abaut his stug, he should be a military salesman!!! XD
"Just before Hitler found the Holy Grail."
Now there's a sentence :D
I love how warren always gets the tracks wrong :-)
Great video, exquisite models, if I wasn t deep into fow I have given this game a try on 28mm. But I think I ll go with 15mm minis.
If u are going 15mm go plastic soldier company they are great
Hey, I just came across your channel searching up bolt action tanks as I want to do a tutorial on my CZcams channel on one of these vehicles. These are really top-notch tank models with fantastic detail and I think they would paint up real nice. Thanks for doing these great reviews, I'm not a gamer but I love modelling and these should prove to be an interesting topic. I've just subscribed! Cheers.
this guy literally put all tracks on wrong
it really annoyed me XD
boer harms sommige mensen zijn ook gewoon niet zo slim he xD
Lennart Hoek nee, Maar waarom zou het aandrijfwiel ook aan de transmissie zitten, dat is toch heel vreemd?! XD.
boer harms precies dat xD
Yeah tracks are kind of like Warren's kryptonite...
Kurt Knispel was the highest scoring tank commander of world war two however he was not recognised due to his disagreements with high command. he also once assaulted a military policeman and refused to kill prisoners of war.
+TheMightyLion according to german right-wing author Franz Kurowski...everything he has written about the wehrmacht must be taken with a grain of salt boardgamer..lol
Some hints to pronounce German:
1st: The letter "z" is pronounced like (ts) rather than a soft and humming (s).
2nd: The "th" is pronounced like a hard (t) rather than the English "th".
3rd: "Ausf." is an abreviation for "Ausführung" which means as much as "build, version, variant"
So Ausf. is the german equivalent of Mk.?
nice tank love it
Challenge accepted!!! All the way from Mexico my friend!!!
i like these 2 guys in the videos
What tanks should i use in my russian platoon? I have a lot of models but im kinda noob in this game, any ideas?
Warren is that a Gattsu from Berserk on your T-shirt?(Yes i do see the superman emblem but he looks nothing like the guy;) )
can you just place all the parts together??
Warren, you make my brain hurt because you can't tell what the front of the track is from the rear of the track. You managed to stick the tracks on backwards on nearly every tank.
And those bits you and Alessio didn't know the use for, they are the supports for the Schurtzen plates.
please more bolt action! :) Can you do another demo game?
To be honest i use my 1:72 models, to help because i hard to find, that kind o f model in brazil. Nice video
Eu estou pensando em comprar pelo Warlord Games usando o PayPal. Claro que é em dolar mas vale a pena.
Adriel Camilo amigo me adiciona no facebook é Evandro Souza Cordeiro.
Ok vou te procurar
Qual a sua foto?
Adriel Camilo amigo estou de camisa preta com o arco do triunfo por trad.
The Panther tank was amazing and the British Centureon was close to the size .The only thing changing was thickness of armour and towards the end of the Brit Tank and the gun got slightly bigger?
I wish Bolt Action would include molds that look like these instead of what they send me. Often I do not even get the MG
Mg 34. not MG 42. The MG 42 was unable to have its barrel switched out whilst being fitted into a tanks hull. As a mounted machine gun maybe but as a hull mounted weapon no. Say for one German tank the Jagdpanzer IV still however no Coax mg42s or hull mounted available.
Warren likes what I like about this era of german armour
With Warren on the Stugs, they look brilliant with their low profiles. Decent armour and a surprisingly (for their opponents) big punch. Would take them any time, with some Panzer IV's as I can't resist them.
Hate to break it to you but most assualt guns or tank destroyers are actually classified as tanks and most tank destroyers were tanks that were modified for the specific task of destroying enemy tanks or other armored vehicles
Panther tank had 165 Pen with AP shells at 500m vs none sloped armour. Tiger 1 had 130 pen. Tiger II had 210, Jagdtiger 247.
Soviet armor next! i want to see a lovely is2
awesome what's new for the future of BA
I totally agree with you mate
Doe's this place have these tank's and same scale in all painted and all die cast???
4 out of these 5 tank's & TD ;) you placed track's on wrong btw. :P
The Pz. IV had the least effective armour of the medium tanks of WWII, even though the concept of medium tanks wasn't really around at the time. Even the Sherman had a bit of sloping to its armor.
Well, Even if that were true, it was the main stay of the German army and later models mounting more powerful guns ( Read 75mm KwK 40 L/48 ) which could reliably pierce the armor of tanks like the Sherman, T-34 and other various allied tanks. It was also smaller, more mechanically reliable, faster, and still sufficient against even late war tanks.
TheKsalad , SKull Crackin The Pz. IV was designed in 1939 and was first deployed in 1940. At that time, it was the best tank around. The Pz. IV still had thinner armor than the British Matilda and French Char - BUT it had a huge 75 mm short barrelled howitzer and was nearly twice as fast as the western tanks. For comparison, the largest gun mounted on a western tank at that time was only 37mm and struggled even against the thinner German armor.
Because the Germans saw such success with the Pz. IV in France and Afrika against the Western Allies, they started a huge production run and improved it with several varaints - first up-gunning it, then up armoring it - and it performed very well against western tanks. However, it was completely outclassed by the T-34/76 which it encountered first in the Summer '41. But by that time, the Germans had already produced so many of them that they were forced to rely on it.
The Pz. III has a similar story - they were obsolescent by 41 - so the Germans began to convert their Pz. III's into assault guns and their Pz. II's (and some captured vehicles) into tank destroyers. Much later, they did the same with the Pz. IV. For comparison, the Pz.IVH was a rough equivalent to the M4A4 Sherman in terms of armor and firepower. But because it was a much earlier design, it's engine and drive train was over taxed by the heavier conversions, so it's maneuverability was much poorer than the Sherman's.
Considering camouflage on tanks. I guess it should be no different then painting 25mm foot clothing?
Where would i buy these models.
kurt Knispel was a better tank commander then Wittman, but because knispel wasnt a nazi he wasnt used for propaganda.
Even Otto Carius was better.... And another couple of tankers got better récord that witmann.... But the nazi propaganda puts him on the top.
More tanks!
A lot of flash on those kits, and the bits look like they are metal instead of plastic. Any reason for that? I think Knispel was better (he also wasn't a Nazi). I really like the Hetzer and Jagdpanther more than the Stugs.
That guy in the black Shirt haven´t any real knowledge of german tanks every model he unbox he Exchange the drivewheel to the rear instead of the front .He named most of the parts wrong ,, actually he doesn´t know the parts that hold the Schürzen OMG
Whitman was killed by a Sherman Tank destroyer, at least according to the Nazi Mega weapons TV show, which I consider to be very reliable.
Panthers weren't really that expensive. The late war mass production models cost about the same as an Easy Eight Sherman (which was about 20% more expensive than 'standard' Sherman).
The reason why the US produced so many tanks was more due to the wealth of the US. They had deep pockets and could afford a lot of tanks!
The Panther was a very complex design though, and when damaged in battle or through breakdowns, very difficult to repair. The Sherman was easier to repair and get back into action.
PaulthaPict It's true that ~30% of Panthers were out of action due to repairs at any given time. On the other hand their prowess in combat is so fierce that they can easily beat a Sherman in a straight fight. Overall they easily win out on value. Too bad for the Germans that their GDP was puny compared to the Allies.
And he keeps putting the tracks the wrong way round, darnit! :)
and it was an either british or canadian shell that penetrated the tigers armour and set it alight, blowing the turret off. everyone inside the tank, including wittmann, was killed.
He was taken out by a rocket that penetrated the rear upper deck.
altor23 not true, it was a british firefly that claimed the kill on Whitman.
RagnarisFellhanded Historians are starting to think it may have been a Canadian tank that took Wittmann down, they don't know for sure yet though.
you guys should play war thunder! different kinds of tanks too American,japan,Britain,and German!
My father fought in WW2 he said you were very , very , very unlucky if you came across a tiger 🐯
Look at the warping on the Panzer III... what the hell is that
Warren I will give you a game any time
Kurt Knispel was the most successful tank ace of WWII
dont you mean Michael wittman?
pierre dayon no, i mean kurt knispel. He is No. 1 of the tank aces but wittmann is more famous then him.
Leutnant82 Wittmann was SS. Knispel was Heer (Army)
Knispel got more kills doe
Even Otto Carius was better than witmann
do they have the tog ii??? :D
The Skittles Empire I LOVE YOU XD
+The Skittles Empire HMS Tog preparing to repel boarders.
Where is Tiger Konig? its the king for a reason?
I think your guys put panther's track in the wrong direction.
As well as tiger's.......
At 13:05
50 Panzer IV's vs 50 T-34's. Who would win? It might not come down to who has the better tank. German crews were trained better than Soviet crews. The Soviet's would win because the fight was never even. It would be more like 50 Panzer IV's vs 500 T-34's.
nope, the panthers will rip through the t34 front armor . and the tiny 57 mil from the t34 will not even pen the front
pierre dayon The conversation at 13:05 is what I was commenting on.
The Panther had a great gun for sure but enough of them were never produced and in early on they would break down, often.
The T-34 had a 76.2 mm gun and it had a problem with the frontal armor with the Panther like most guns.
Mike B the first ones have 57 the2nd have 57 long barrel and 76 and then 85
Panthers can rip through them if it's an open battlefield and I'm pretty sure morale will kick in and make them perform worse because of the sheer size of the Panthers
pierre dayon The Panther is a superior tank for sure, and the all German crews were by far the best of the war.
I agree that the Panthers 75mm is better than the Soviet 76.2mm (by 1943 i'd imagine all T-34 had them by then), but like I said, the sheer weight in numbers the Soviets put in the field had tipped the balance.
Can't find any info about T-34's with a 57mm gun. Could you tell me where to find any info on about it?
22:53 he got the tracks around the wrong way
what about Irvine Rommel?
Commando Raptor he was a general... whait int what context are you even bringing him up
That light is just a light nothing to do with night vision the night vision panthers had a huge thing on the turret
what is the difference between "bolt action" and "tanks"
It pains me to see him put the tank tracks backwards
Another thing Dude that are not French tanks dont get the tracks backwards...
he holds the tracks backwards like 50% of the time...LOL
The tracks for the Panther and Tiger are the wrong way around...
you build the tank tread at the Tiger wrong ;)
AUSF is actually the short version of Ausführung and is something like Type in german,so it would be Panther Type A.Also StuG III means Sturmgeschütz III,which Alessio correctly translated into Assault Gun,the word Sturmgeschütz is made out of Sturm which means Storm in englisch and geschütz which means cannon or Gun in german,so Sturmgeschütz would mean something like Stormcannon,but Assault gun sounds way better.
And could you please make more Bolt Action Videos? I like Bolt Action but to me Flames of War is totally boring....also i dont want to spend 50 Dollars on 3 Tanks that i can inhale if i am not careful.Bolt Action looks much better to me,way better game mechanics,better miniatures,and for a very very good price,not that overpriced stuff from flames of war.
My friend would mostly play as the germans or canada
+Joshua Huynh You mean the Canadian as the British Commonwealth
idk
Where's the king tiger at in this nowhere. I'm mean that it should be in the top 5 you take the armour of tiger and the slope armour of the panther and it's long barrel gun change it in a 88 and you get the kwp 43 8.8cm thus making the most fearful than to exist during the war.look up its kill to death ratios.
Problems arose when it came to getting it into combat. Reportedly in one panzer company there was 75 tiger 2's (aka king tiger). 2 weeks later 1 was lost to enemy fire, and 43 had to be left behind due to mechanical failures off-combat.
22:47 the tracks are wrong ^^ ohter side
Been laughing that they keep putting drive sprockets on wrong end of tank.
I wish these guys would stop making metal models it is the one thing that has really kept me from getting into their range
It is noted that the black shirt does not know about the subject
A StuG could easily destroy an IS -1/85 however the IS 2 is more than a match for a StuG
he turned the tracks of the tiger the wrong way around...
I cringed at the part where he put the drive sprocket on the wrong side on the first tank.
Panther could not go full speed the Germans put too light a gear box in the tank. The allies were willing to lose 4 Shermans to get a rear shot at a Tiger I, with the fifth. Good tanks but I prefer the Mk IV.
Warren can't work tank tracks !
The stug actually sucks. one 85 m shell from an Is1 hits the driver view ports the driver, gunner, commander dies leaving the loader alone. but the stug is actually awesome if you talk about ranged operations
The stug was the mist effective tank destroyer throughout the war for germany. Easy to hide and mobile, and with a decent gun it was perfect for ambushes in the defence role it had from 1943 on...
Michael Gäfgen yeah and if it sees a ruskie zis-3 and gets hit in the drivers viewport, 3/4 of its crew dies
I'm not saying this because "I like Russia" I prefer German tanks
pierre dayon dude, a tanks effectiveness is not measured in survivability if the view port. Speaking of which is a weak part in any tank, early is2 models could and were destroyed by Panzer 3s by shots at the drivers hatch/viewport, the t34 wasn't and still an is2 is way more capable in means of both surviving hits from Panzers and destroying them.
Yeah true but I'm a big fan of superior armor and the tiger is way better :3
pierre dayon you know it was so unreliable that more of them broke down than avmctually were destroyed ? It was great when it worked, thats for sure, but the Panzer iv ausf. h proved to be a decent tank with Schürzen side armour and the long 75mm gun so why dont have a couple of those for the same price ?
( still 88mm for the win though ^^ )
When fatty puts the tracks on backwards everytime i drop three nukes on the uk in hearts of iron 4 why wont they surrender......
"this kit has so many parts!" well for wargaming maybe but bitch please when i was 10 i already made 300+ part kits xD xD
It has to be difficult trying to express pride in German engineering and tactical prowess in WWII, while not trying to seem proud of the Nazi regime.
PzIII looks ok, StuG looks good, PzIV looks like crap, Panther looks ok'ish, Tiger looks ok'ish
❤stuglife
Otto Carius
Nothing but another Tiger...could tow a broken down tiger.
Warren......
not great quality in my opinion surprisingly on this video
maus !!!!
It is a tank tank destroyers are tanks
I love German tanks for their capabilities but the T-34 is better unit because of its cheap production cost and reliability. During a war production is the deciding factor, not how great the units are. If you can't produce your units fast enough you die.
+Guy Hermann tell that to israel, they were always greatly outnumbered but won ever time
true, but early war t 34s werent reliable at all
Lennart Hoek even later too.
ARGHH!! METAL PARTS!! GO AWAY!
I miss metal parts.
But I hate them
pretty sure Whitman was killed by a Firefly...
RagnarisFellhanded That's what claimed the kill, historians are starting to think it was a Canadian Sherman that got him.
Brandon Brockwell It was a Sherman firefly from one of the Yorkshire tank regiments, but the Canadians can claim it was one of theirs if it makes them feel a bit better XD
+RagnarisFellhanded both the canadians and joe ekins' unit can make claims to the KILL, as both sherman squadrons were shooting at WITTMANN's charging platoon in that engagement...geez you guys and your boardgames..lmao...and another thing, learn to spell check this man's name. outta here.
+Mikey Tavarez meh, if you say so
+RagnarisFellhanded glad to help 'rookie'
no the T-34-85 was the best
+Joe Justesen
NO, it wasn't...not even close...
It was not even close, not at ALL
*It's not a tank*