Nuclear Physicist Reacts to Cleo Abram The Big Lie About Nuclear Waste
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- Nuclear Physicist Reacts to Cleo Abram The Big Lie About Nuclear Waste
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In this video, I react to Cleo Abram The Big Lie About Nuclear Waste video from the perspective of a nuclear physicist. I go through the is nuclear power green? video of Cleo Abram and look through what is accurate information on Cleo Abram The Big Lie About Nuclear Waste video as a nuclear physicist and react to it.
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Interesting video as always. I don't really have anything to say or add but I have to say this: I LOVE that NUCuLAr T-shirt! I'd love to get one of those. Where did you get it? Or do you have a merch store that I'm not aware of?
Thanks for your support! I'm glad you enjoyed the video. You have a great eye! Without giving away too much, I'm working on something huge and that NUCuLAr t-shirt is just a taste of what's to come. Stay tuned! 👩🏽🔬⚛️
@@YourFriendlyNuclearPhysicist All right. Now that is something I am looking forward to. :)
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Former president Bush needs one of these shirts lol!
@@juliafoster9433 I also always think of Dubya when I see the word written that way. :)
1:15 honestly I agree with Cleo here: the majority of people, the non-expert, do think of nuclear waste in that way. I don't think Cleo is addressing expert people or scientists. she's addressing us, average morons.
I think of the Simpson 3 eyed fish
Exactly. I don't think there is any point in reacting to these videos as you watch them. They are supposed to sound dumb at start so people with no prior knowledge could understand and get more technical as the subject is better understood.
This is like going to pre-school and reacting to them teaching kids basic things everyone is supposed to know.
Agreed - Cleo's video basically starts off with her saying "Here is a thing that is clearly wrong that people think, let's take a look into why it's wrong" and Elina responds with "That thing you're saying you know is wrong? That's wrong."
exactly. I stopped wtaching the video at this point, because I don't care what an expert has to say about nuclear waste after that attitude.
From one average moron to another .... you got that right on ...
Hello. Former US Navy Nuclear Propulsion here.
I have to break my policy of watching the entire video before commenting to get something out of my head.
You're correct when you say that cost is an obstacle to developing 'breeder/burner' reactors; but there's a story behind the story.
The initial concern that slowed development and construction was, as Cleo mentions in her video, not cost, but security, specifically about the safe handling, transportatiin, and storing of fissile Plutonium, the fuel of choice for thermonuclear weapons, which is succinctly summed up by the term _proliferation._ As Cleo also mentions, since US commercial plants went the route of Light Water Low Pressure design (LWLP), and Canada the route of Heavy Water Low Pressure (HWLP), during the decades of initial investment into research, technology, and infrastructure, the fast breeder got left by the wayside, in large part due to the international Non-Proliferation Treaty and Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty (NPT and SALT) curtailing demand for the implementation of this design. So due to a tailoff of investment in the technology, the cost of implementation in today's industry is disproportionately higher because of its rare and specialized nature and the special security concerns associated with its operation and maintenance.
With the amount of initial-use spent fuel sitting around the U.S. in short-term storage solutions, there is a veritable gold mine waiting ti be tapped by modern burner reactor designs - all that is lacking is the capital investment and political will to use it.
Thank you, well said
I really liked Cleo's video and appreciated how approachable she makes the subject for the layman. Furthermore, I like how your video validates (and invalidates) the information, allowing people who found the original content interesting to learn a bit more detail.
Ok, she clearly says "the first thing she thinks about" so that she can then say that's wrong. It's obvious from when she starts saying that, that's the set up. 🤦♀️
Ikr 🤦♀
Girl cant take a joke or something.
Precisely. She totally missed that point.
Yes…..she very clearly set up the point as a way to continue to the video.
She needs to stop pausing and making judgement and watch the whole video……Cleo very clearly explains ALL of that in very clear measures.
I’m not even going to finish watching this as it’s clear she is looking to get clicks by hitting on someone else’s work.
@@blick5815 yeah I didn't finish it either. Very disingenuous.
I would LOVE to hear you break down the differences between the generations of reactors
Yes. Definitely need a video on that.
And then we need a reaction video: "Reactor Reacts to Generations of Reactors"
Let me add my vote to this :)
It'd be interesting to see the take on the MOX reactors. Also, love to see her thoughts on Gen IV reactors like MSRs and GFR/SFR types.
gen 1: screwdriver and plutonium sphere gen 2: Japanese kilotonne gen3: castle bravo gen4: tsar Bomba *gen5: ork, is potato da* @amanawolf9166 what about molten salt?
Of course we'd be nterested in your visit in such a facility and yes as @ShameLagoon said, we would LOVE you to break down the differences between the generations of reactors 😊 Another great video!
100 %
Yes, definitely.
Onkalo here we come!
Onkalo is a hole in the ground they're going to stuff nuclear waste into then backfill with concrete, the tech itself is uninteresting, but Michael Madsen's feature-length documentary did manage to spin out the surrounding issues to fill the time.
100% agree it would be great to see
Correction, Cleo Abrams does NOT think, that nuclear waste looks like "glowing green goop" but pointed out, that this is how the media (entertainment industry) has portrayed it.
If your knowledge and education is based upon cartoons then turn on the boob tube and enjoy life.
@@clarkkent9080 Cleo was debunking what it's said in the media. Your point being?
@@silvesterjkennedy A simple point: ANYIONE who bases their "knowledge" of nuclear power based on cartoons and make believe TV is a moron. Does Cleo even have make that point? The only place you will find nuclear waste being portrayed as green goop is in cartoons.
@@clarkkent9080 That's Cleo's point...that that is EXACTLY what the masses based their knowledge and education on for things they have never investigated themselves
@@silvesterjkennedy My comment was NOT directed at Cleo but the m0rons that base their so called knowledge on cartoons, social media, and You Tube videos. That is a product of American public schools. Today, the truth can easily be uncovered with a little research but playing games and watching TicTok videos seems to take up most of their time. How could my comment be misunderstood?
Excellent review of the video. Thank you for doing it.
I would love to understand the differences between gen 3 and 4 reactors.
Also, a tour of the waste storage facility would be awesome!
Thank you again for your work.
Thank you for the detailed breakdown of Cleo's video. I would definitely like to see your analysis of Generation 4 reactors. Also, a visit to the Finnish and/or Swedish storage facilities would be pretty cool too!
Thank you for the reaction! I think I found your channel thanks to this exact Cloe Abrams video as it was recommended next to it. I'm glad to hear so many aspects of the process and the issues surroundig it.
My father of blessed memory, Bernard Spinrad, was one of the developers of the breeder reactor, and he would be thrilled if he knew people like you are doing videos like this.
Thank you.
Sadly they failed, one after the others
Breeder reactor makes more fuel than they use?
@@Esa826 the fuel is enriched in the breeder blanket, which is separate from the fuel powering the reactor.
@@MichaelCousin1 Thank you so much for information
Since you mentioned the first reactors, I remembered the origin for SCRAM
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Just. I love it.
I like Cleo’s content. I was especially encouraged by this video of hers as it helps to dispel many false beliefs. You just have to remember that she’s not a nuclear physicist … she’s an eager, intelligent human that likes to explore many topics and share her personal discoveries. When it comes to nuclear physics, I think you’ll be hard pressed to find anyone better qualified on CZcams than Alina. She is an incredible source of information and definitely our friendly nuclear physicist! ⚛️
@@nadsenoj8719 This person is saying that Cleo Abram is not a Nuclear Physicist, not referring to Elina.
I'm going to shatter your world. Cleo Abram is an actress. Her videos are infomercials paid for and produced by others. Cleo is just the actress that reads the script. And as commercials most of her videos are inaccurate because they are promoting the agenda of whomever is paying for them. Sorry to ruin your fantasy.
@@Metal0sopher My world isn’t shattered. My fantasy is not destroyed. Plus, you’re not even close to guessing my fantasy. Cleo could be an actress, as you say, but it doesn’t matter. Nor does it matter that her content is paid for and produced by others. The basic message of her videos works either way. Sorry to frustrate any satisfaction you may have enjoyed.
That’s a harsh assessment of Cleo. She was a journalist for Vox media before creating her own channel.
@@sevenflashowls Exactly, Vox like all big media is for profit run by corporations who only care about quarterly earnings growth. So the reporters have to deliver avert clicks to increase revenue, that means manipulative stories to attract an audience, not facts. That's where she learned her skills. Plus her vids are way too professional. She clearly has editors, writers, staff, which would require hundreds of thousands of dollars a year in salaries, but she doesn't even have one million subs yet. On average You tubers earn about $10000 a year per 100000 subs. So how is she paying all these people from YT earnings alone? She's not alone. We need transparency laws. All media, vlogers or mainstream, should have a list of all financiers to back them so that we can all clearly see who, and for what purpose, pull the strings.
I would love to see you visit Finland. Quite aside from the Nuclear Waste Storage, Finland is a beautiful country and the people are great. You won't regret your visit.
For me I'd love you to highlight all the safety protocols that are observed at a nuclear storage facility, especially Finland's.
Stop! She won't come back.
@@Broken_robot1986 They do have interwebs in Finland. Don't worry.
@@tarmaque Interwebs?
@@LTVoyager Kids these days. Don't know the difference between the Interweb and the World Wide Net.
Thanks so much for making this video! I loved Cleo's video but it still left me with a couple of unanswered questions, which you've helped address. My curiosity will never be sated however 😅
Awesome video, I like how Cleo aims to reach out to the general public and really really enjoyed your analysis and the additional knowledge you provide. Thank you
Cleo not Chloe
@@digital.frenchy thank you for pointing out my typo. Corrected
1:10 the "green glowing goo" is the main ingredient for "Mountain Dew". We dispose of it by feeding it to hill billies.
Correct.
What would happen if the waste was put in a volcano on a deserted island?
Thank you for your reaction to Cleo's video. Your expertise elevates the legitimacy of the claims made in the video. I found her video both enlightening and frustrating. The frustration comes from learning how inefficiently we have been utilizing nuclear power. Now that you've confirmed the premise of the video, the question remains; how do we get past the governmental hang-ups and get on with it...
errr cost ?
you wont the gov is against nuclear has been for decades since the then dem congress of the time in i think the 60's poo pooed breeder reactors as the route to go and went with water reactors by GE so we could export them cheaply to nations we did not want going over to the red scare and not have a reactor that could easily make material for them to make nukes. carter put the final nail in the coffin and here we are today.
I learnt so much from this, thank you! A real pleasure listening to an expert talking about her own field.
Minor correction: plutonium bred in a reactor isn’t necessarily useful for making weapons. It has to be almost all plutonium-239. Plutonium 240 and higher isotopes are bad as a weapon fuel, as they tend to fission spontaneously rather than at carefully controlled times. The weapons grade stuff is made by putting some uranium in a reactor and pulling it out after a short burn time.
In a breeder reactor, Uranium-238 + 1 neutron = P-239, so most of it ends up as fissile Plutonium. The waste sucking up neutrons also means a lot more fissile Uranium is required to start them (about 20%). If you end up with P-240, your reaction is eating 2 neutrons and that would be undesirable.
@@alexschnarr7718 There is a difference between what happens in a breeder's blanket and what happens in the active core region of a breeder or the core of a thermal reactor. In the blanket, your comment is correct, but in the active core of a breeder, a fast spectrum reactor without a blanket or the core of a thermal spectrum reactor, Willerwin is correct.
hence why we went GE water reactors "on the cheap" and sold them to other nations at the time to woo them away from going over to the then soviets during the cold war. we then implemented them here as well even though they are way more prone to 3 mils island and fukishima incidents........ breeders never melt down and was proven at the lab to the government and ignored just the same.
I'm gonna need to see your credentials lol
I’m glad to see you’re enjoying the video! I saw plenty of interest for a Gen-IV breakdown video, and I got you! Stay tuned 👩🏽🔬☢️
Answer me in the comments below!
Grateful you're going to tackle Gen-IV designs. Thank you! These improvements change the safety equation.
Most folks I talk to are afraid of any nuclear energy, "because I don't want a bomb" These same folks can't even consider hydrogen fuel cars, "because Hindenburg, right?" So thank you again for getting the word out.
@@DistracticusPrime Hydrogen cars are just a bad idea and cannot compete with EVs. It doesn't have anything to do with Hindenburg phobias.
Could you do an episode on Molten Salt Reactors (MSR)? In particular where are we now for re-using waste in MSRs without requiring refinement?
Absolutely would like to see more on Gen 4 reactors, I'm also interested in the space program Sterling engine reactor. And in the concepts for the next generation that I believe are ready being talked about. So basically a gen 4 reactor differences video, with some notes on that NASA reactor, and what the concepts are for the future. Having only studied undergrad physics, despite my interest in nuclear physics I never continued my studies, therefore these videos of yours are really interesting to me. Thanks)
Love your in depth analysis. Sometimes a single sentence deserves several minutes of discussion. I wish more videos were like yours!
Glad you enjoyed it!☢️👩🏽🔬
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the students then replied no we don't see God, so the teacher said if you don't see God it means there is no God.
then a smart student stood up and said to the other students hey guys can you see the teachers brain?
then the students answered no we don't see the teachers brain, the student then said the teacher then is crazy, he has no brain
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and whenever I see you I feel like Iam in a dream,
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The universe science says was not always there, it had a beginning point, the big bang, meaning it was begun/initiated in other words created, thus there should be a creator,
there must be a God.
Also, check this out, if you like, this is from Artificial intelligence, chat Gpt:
Prophecies in Major World Religious Books Referring to Prophet Mohammed:
1. The Bible - Deuteronomy 18:18-19, John 14:16, John 16:7-14, Isaiah 42:1-13
2. The Hindu Scriptures - Bhavishya Purana, Atharvaveda Book 20 Hymn 127-129
3. The Buddhist Scriptures - Cakkavatti-Sihanada Sutta, Anguttara Nikaya III:61, Digha Nikaya III:76-77
4. The Zoroastrian Scriptures - Zand-i Vohuman Yasht, Farvardin Yasht, Dadestan-i Denig
& Regarding the verses in the Quran asking to protect non-believers or polytheists, there are several that emphasize the importance of treating all people with respect and kindness, regardless of their religious beliefs.
One such verse is found in Surah Al-Mumtahanah (60:8), which states: "Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly."
Also In the name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most Merciful (If any of the polytheists seek protection from you, grant him protection)
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم(إن استجارك أحد من المشركين فأجره)
Another verse in Surah Al-Anfal (8:61) encourages Muslims to make peace with their enemies, even if they are non-believers or polytheists: "And if they incline to peace, then incline to it also and rely upon Allah. Indeed, it is He who is the Hearing, the Knowing."
& Regarding the verses in the Quran asking for justice and kindness, there are many such verses throughout the holy book. One example is found in Surah An-Nahl (16:90), which states: "Indeed, Allah orders justice and good conduct and giving to relatives and forbids immorality and bad conduct and oppression. He admonishes you that perhaps you will be reminded."
& In terms of prophecies about Prophet Mohammed in major world religions, there are a few examples that some scholars have pointed to. One such example is found in the Bible's Book of Deuteronomy (18:18), which states: "I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers. And I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him." Some Muslims interpret this verse as a prophecy about Prophet Mohammed.
Because the Arabs are the brethren's of Israelites,
The Arabs are descendants from Ishmael or Ismail the brother of Isaac the father of Israelites, and because the verse didn't say from amongst them or from their descendants, it said from their brethren's.
Similarly, some scholars point to a passage in the Bhavishya Purana, an ancient Hindu text, as a prophecy about Prophet Mohammed. The passage describes a "holy man" who will come from Arabia and spread a new religion, and some argue that this refers to Mohammed and the spread of Islam..
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God initiated everything,
& he repeat/redo things too, & thats clear, we see many cycles of different things in life, also in summer for example the desert land becomes like empty and is filled with only sand, and when rain falls in abundance in spring or winter, after that small flowers & wild plants grow again, also, we see how humans and animals grow and how their body is formed from the elements which were in the sand which plants feed on which they eat, and after they die they go to the sand and their atoms/elements are taken by plants which humans & animals eat and their bodies grow from those atoms & elements found in the sand which came from previous humans & animals which died before, so God can bring us again after we die even if our atoms became in the sand he can make us from the same atoms we were made of or from other atoms if he want or make us be in a spirit form or like ghosts, any ways, everything in this life is recycled, learn if you want about the different cycles in life in nature, the food cycle or food chain, the water cycle, even the gas cycle that makes the air the oxygen &carbon dioxide &nitrogen cycles, even the energy is like recycled but only changes from form to another form.
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keep shining sunshine &spread the light.
True...but Elina skipped over alot of Cleos video which had a couple of small mistakes but if anyone watched from start to finish would see, was very interesting and informative.
I like the short version, and then the in depth information you share. People like me need to take baby steps! All of this is so cool.
Claim: we can't economically recycle nuclear waste. Also claim: France is economically recycling nuclear waste. Which one is it?
Yeah, the french used some 'tricks' to get there. Frist they build an pipe into the Atlantic to get rid of most of the fluid nuclear waste and some of the solid waste (most of the low to mid radioactive waste). Secondly they sent most of the low enriched Uranium hexafluoride (~96% of the 'recycled' stuff) to Russia for little money where it got stored in some yards in Siberia. After that it turned out they still barely made break even so they came up with MOX fuel to save on cost for storeing Plutonium (it doesn't serve any purpose in an light water reactor other than fatigue the reactor fast due gamma radiation) and made recycling nuclear waste magically economically viable.
After mentioning Cleo's sub count at the end, I looked at yours for the first time and I am SHOCKED. Where is everybody??? Please keep this up because your production quality is FAR beyond the numbers you have now. Thoughtfully and respectfully reviewing Kurzgesagt is a big accomplishment that few CZcamsrs have the expertise and attitude to do. Again, please please keep the truth and insights coming!!
Yes, your videos provide so much more value because they're in depth and not one sided. Nuclear energy isn't perfect, but it isn't terrible either. Understanding it's strengths and weaknesses is important.
For many, ignorance is bliss.
I'm not surprised at all about that, sensational and superficial videos are the best selling items in CZcams. Turning on your brain and consume more thorough content is not for everyone.
I think if we gave it 30 seconds of thought, we could easily come up with and explanation for Cheo Abrams popularity... I'll take Elina's style any day of the week.
Cleo is not a scientist but a (science) communicator whereas Elina is a communicative scientist, and I am thankful for her channel.
Between watching you, and Kyle Hills half-life history other nuclear information videos, my concern for nuclear power (for energy purposes) has reduced from mid-high to low. Awareness makes all the difference when it comes to things that are considered dangerous by the general public
The most dangerous part of nuclear power is the people running itas long as they are safety minded and doing their job properly, nuclear power is clean, safe, reliable, and cheap.
@@Jonnyg325 Have you met other Americans????
@@Jonnyg325 The reprocessing plants in Sellafield and La Hague made themselves, not the best reputation. Also in the last century, they made quite a streak of dumb decisions like dumping waste in the ocean. I wish it changed, but France overusing their old reactors and increasing their lifespan further and further instead of replacing them, tells me... If they had your approach maybe, but sadly this isn't the case and money is before safety.
@@clarkkent9080Meanwhile, every single country with the capability is enriching uranium for weapons.
But yeah, 'merica bad, Nazi's shoulda won.
Kyle Hill videos are full of misinformation and outright lies
Would love to learn about the reactor generations and a tour of facilities. Really appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge.
Sure thing! Thanks 👩🏽🔬☢️
I really like the Cleo video. Thank you for adding such good info. A gen 4 vs gen 3 video would be great!
Interesting video. I had always thought that waste recycling had been avoided more for non-proliferation reasons than cost. It's disappointing that dry storage is cheaper than recycling but when put in perspective, I understand why they've taken that approach.
Where there's a will there's a way - something tells me cost is merely an excuse, for now at least...
"recycling" is actually a BIG misnomer when referring to nuclear waste. There is no recycling. It is actually "RE-PROCESSING". And reprocessing is actually a very dirty, energy intensive, and expensive process. Places that conduct reprocessing activities (like Orano la Hauge, France or Sellafield Cumbria, UK) actually create large secondary radioactive waste streams that are pumped into the ocean. There were several reprocessing efforts in US that didn't do much better, and thus commercial reprocessing efforts in the US were abandoned.
@@CrystalLakeEast very good points about being energy intensive - when the transition away from fossils fuels means that the energy used for reprocessing is from clean sources then it might start to become a bit more circular. Even now the amount of fossil fuels it likely takes to build, maintain, fuel and then decommission nuclear plants in general probably makes a sizeable dent in the ‘carbon neutrality’ of nuclear as an energy source…
Well, I made a similar comment above. This is my understanding as well.
Well digging a hole and putting the waste in it costs nothing as long as there is little waste.
Recycling becomes relevant and cost-effective when there is so much waste you can’t afford digging a hole.
And putting waste underground only creates a new potential ressources for future generations if our society were to collapse and lose track of its holes.
Thank you, that was a great counter-balance to the earlier video, which I had seen, and it clarified things for me very well.
Glad it was helpful!
just wait for the toktik army to request ZNPP meltdown bs who havnt even taken a atomic science 200 class yet...
@@YourFriendlyNuclearPhysicist Good job and thank you for clarifying her misinformation. I've seen many of Cleo's videos before and I need to point out that Cleo Abram is a total and complete grifter. Her videos are scripted by the people promoting the story line. She is just the pretty face actress paid to deliver the lines, because they know on technical issues the audience is mostly male, mostly nerdy, and hook line and sinker easily taken by a pretty girl.
Sorry to be blunt, but the truth is the truth. Watch enough of her videos and it will soon become evident that the entirety of any of her videos, is the add. Not all her videos are bad, but I have an issue with people like her portraying a paid commercial as scientific truth. This is part of the problem with all media today. All of them are in it for the profit, not the facts, in fact, the facts are too often tossed aside when the truth is inconvenient.
Great video. To be honest, the only time I'm surprised these days is if the answer *ISN'T* "because money".
What a great review of another popular channel. Peer review makes science work, and I think it can elevate the CZcams platform as well. This is my first time seeing your channel, and in looking forward to watching your prior videos, AND BOTH of the suggested videos you mentioned here.
She has an bad track record in mixing up scientific feasabilities and real world usecases. She doesnt talk about all sort of difficulties in upscaled nuclear processes, but she is advertising a unfit technology.
A good down to earth breakdown of the facts- and a superb presentation!
Brilliant! I’d love to know more about 4th gen reactors, and also nuclear waste in general. It seems like a lot of stuff termed ‘nuclear waste’ is about as radioactive as a banana, and only a tiny percentage is the hot stuff. Could you do a breakdown of the different types and dangers and things?
A video on visiting Finland's usage of that Swedish research sounds super interesting! I'm subscribed now. :) Found you here from Cleo's channel, great info, thanks!
I´d love to see you visiting the Finnish waste management plant, and their storage facilities.
Wow, I just discovered your channel and am already a fan and subscriber. Looks like I have a lot of old videos to catch up with.
Glad the algorithm decided to show me your video! Very informative, and I quite liked your presentation. Happily became a subscriber!
Well done! Added more technical explanation. Cleo did the 'layman' version, and Elina went a bit deeper into the physics. Green Goo is a 'common' representation, she found plenty of examples, not a big deal.
Both of these young women give me hope for the future.
I would love for you to elucidate the differences between generations, but I would particularly be over the moon to see Finland's methods!
A fantastic response to Cleo's introduction. Thank you very much! I wonder if you have seen the film 'Into Eternity' (2010)? It was the documentary (though a little 'subjective') about Onkalo in Finland. Thanks again!
Thank you for the detailed explanation and putting context behind the possibilities. Subscribed.
Thank you for that smart brain stimulation of the day, Elina ! And yes, PLEASE, I would love to see the Finland geological depository sites very much !!
You got it!☢️👩🏽🔬
For anyone interested in learning more about the underground storage facilities in Finland mentioned by Elina, there is a really good documentary called 'Into Eternity' (I believe it can be watched on CZcams). I can't talk about the possible accuracies or inaccuracies of the film, but as a layman I found it an interesting watch when it aired on UK TV in the mid-2010s (I believe it aired under the title 'Nuclear Eterinty').
Thank you for recommendations. Yes, many people seem to have vital interest in this topic. And for a very good reason.
Great video!
Thank you for explaining it so well.
And yes! Please talk about gen 4 reactors.
I would enjoy hearing you discuss the Gen IV reactors being worked on. I myself learned about them because some intrepid soul made a mod for the video game Kerbal Space Program where you could build Gen IV nuclear reactors into your spacecraft. Curious, I put the reactor types into an internet search engine.
Those new reactors are economically dead, pointless to build.
Each kWh costs 4-6x more than any other electricity source.
Makes absolutely no economic sense, at all.
@@chargehanger So we give them the same cushy treatment as "green" energy and get a better mousetrap.
at first but as more are built they will become more efficient and cheaper everything starts off expensive@@chargehanger
There is often NOT a good reason why technologies or ideas are left behind. It's who has the ear of those in power that gets something moved forward or canned. There's a lot of maneuvering, even malfeasance that goes on where the general public doesn't or isn't allowed to see or know.
Or there is. A political one. And this is the case of a backlash against nuclear power in Europe. I have been saying this for years in my own country but only now decision makers started to listen to actual scientfic arguments regarding this. For my country it's the only good option, so we are vitally interested in informing both our politicians and the general public. And maybe various industries as well. Since stable and safe energy production is a life blood of every economy really.
Love your videos! You do a GREAT job breaking this stuff down!
I do want to point out that Cleo did clarify in the next couple sentences that nuclear waste is pellets. Maybe she shouldn’t have led with the “green goo” trope, but watching her whole video, she did clarify it, and it seemed like she only brought up that misconception as a way to emphasize to people one of the “lies” about nuclear waste.
Thanks for the very informative video, as always. And to answer your question, YES! I would enjoy watching a video about nuclear waste repository in Finland. It would be nice if could actually see what is going on there, if they will give you permission to film it :)
I think Cleo's whole point is that they ARE getting better at using waste as energy. You slammed her before you even got to that part of the video.
As usual, this girl is already being defensive on everything that relates to nuclear..
I think she somewhat missed the angle of the original video. Almost as if the video by cleo required some sort of debunking while the cleo video takes a more investigative approach to something “that could be huge if true” and is not presenting conclusions.
A few months ago I read an article about a company that desperately wants to build reprocessing facilities here in the US. They have a relatively simple but ingenious solution to the plutonium problem: keep the plutonium mixed in with other things throughout the whole reprocessing chain. You don't have to worry about pure plutonium if you never isolate it in the first place. Obviously the technology is at least a few years out yet, but I'm as optimistic about this idea as I am about nuclear energy in general.
Plutonium has a VERY long half life and it's not something you really want in your eventual waste.
@@nerdyali4154 Exactly, but you can leave it mixed into the inevitable fuel product, not the waste. The same principle could apply to minor actinides as well.
Any source of more information about it? "keep the plutonium mixed in with other things throughout the whole reprocessing chain"; Isn't it a bit too risky? I mean, what would be supposed to be used in such mix? I mean, I might be wrong but it sounds like making actual final waste even more problematic than it would be without it. Unless there is something I don't know of going into this mix. This is why I'm asking.
@@agatastaniak7459 I found the article I read from CNBC, the company is called Curio. Unfortunately there isn't a lot of information on this specifically. Worse, at least for me, the first Google result for "nuclear waste reprocessing" is a very misleading critique.
Fantastic! Elina does a terrific job and we really need her. Great work Elina!
Thank you! That was informative and helpful. Greatly appreciated.
Great video. While watching Cleo Abram's video, I had so many questions. Elina answered them with the practical and technical details I was looking for. Great ideas can be conceived, but the practical implementation in a lot of cases is the big hurdle in the way of making them a reality.
i bet it still provides cheaper power than windfarms
I have been watching Cleo Abram since she started her channel. I think generally speaking she does a good job of reporting subjects accurately, however, for most of the things she reports on she is not a hobbyist or an expert on the subject so she inevitably is going to make mistakes, even with the intention of being as accurate as possible. It was nice listening to you to point out the errors, add clarification, and add context to what she said. I have a question I would like to ask you. What is the nationality origin of your accent? I am having trouble identifying it. Though I think it sounds lovely regardless.
I don't think Cleo is doing herself any favors by teaming up with the perpetually-bitter Johnny Harris.
She is Greek.
It's Greek with maybe some Swedish.
@@p_serdiuk At least the surname tells me she is Greek. What makes anyone with some Greek ancestry feel instantly proud of an intelligent lady she is. ;-)
I learned so much. Thank you for great content!
This was an excellent review. Would definitely appreciate a video on Gen 4 nuclear reactors. Thanks!
It's only a matter of time before we develop an economic way to recycle it. Even if it's not all re-fueled, {non fuel grade beta emitters could be used to produce light in govt. facilities for instance}. The more we learn about radioactivity the more we will be able to use it.
Great video. You added some interesting context to Cleo's video. I would enjoy seeing you explore some of the topics you raised (4th gen, storage alternatives...) in the future. I'd also like more insight into why the recycling options aren't cost effective. It makes intuitive sense, but a more quantitative look would be interesting along with a review of emerging approaches.
One point of constructive feedback: I don't honestly think that Cleo believes that nuclear waste is "green goo." I think she was just starting with a recognition of the popular representation of waste in film and tv and trying to start on a lighthearted note. It came across as "nuclear physicist-splaining" and started your otherwise great video off on the wrong note.
I always enjoy your videos. Keep up the great work. The world needs to understand that it's time to move past the fear and recognize that fission can be a huge contributor to our move to a carbon neutral future.
The waste material from the reactors makes up a very small part of the nuclear waste we now have. Most of it is ancillary stuff - the materials which became contaminated around the process, like tools, equipment, casings, etc. In Britain, we funded the Nuclear Decommissioning Authority with £100 million. It was used up very quickly making machines which go inside the reactors to cut up the most radioactive parts of the reactor - but when they went wrong they had to stay inside and so then formed part of the highly radioactive waste !!! We spent the money in such a short time and produced more waste with it !!
The content is good As someone who works for a laboratory in the UK, I greatly appreciate it. Please continue creating such fantastic content
Thanks for the great extra information! One thing I'd love to learn more about though is the question: Is it really cheaper to buy new uranium AND pay for the storage of the waste as opposed to recycling the waste? Or is the cost for storage just taken out of the equation because energy companies don't have to pay for it (maybe the tax payer does...?). If the latter is true, then recycling could be made cost effective by "just fixing" a couple of laws instead of finding fancy business models? Thanks again for the great insights!
Please do a video on gen 4 reactors.
Thank you for simplifying an otherwise complex topic. Keep up the good work. cheers.
Hey, I'm glad the almighty algorithm for recommended this video! As a high school chemistry teacher, I'm always looking for good enrichment material for students interested in nuclear topics. I'm excited to check out more of your content. Thank you!
You have to be easy on Cleo when she said her idea of nuclear waste is the classic green slush. All she meant was it how it's been portrayed in pop culture. Even I only realized that nuclear fuel and nuclear waste actually looked like cylindrical pellets.
You don't actually have to go easy on that. Nobody actually believes nuclear waste is green and glowing - they are aware that it's fiction used for comical purposes, like in the Simpsons. Therefore, stating that it's the prevailing cultural belief is disingenuous because everybody is in on the joke. Cleo gets plenty of things wrong in her videos exactly because she isn't that fastidious about her research. She caters to an audience that will not cross check what she says because they are into easily digestible infotainment that doesn't require them to learn anything further. The goal is to watch it, say "wow" and then go away feeling like they're a bit smarter. I find her content to be exceedingly inane.
@@andoletube I am not sure that NOBODY actually thinks nuke waste is green glowing goop. Just as I can't be sure if Cloe's statement of actually believing nuke waste as glowing green goop as accurate. But if Cloe's videos can at least start someone to have a change of opinion or at least start thinking, then it's done its job.
The problem is that people who don't have any idea about anything scientific or how our universe works make videos about science, like Cleo and Johnny Harris. And naive people who watch those videos believe whatever they hear or want to hear.
@@summerlove7779 hence the prefix "I used to think it was this". Then they proceed to show what nuclear waste actually looks based on their research. The whole point of their videos is to correct the wrong notions from pop culture and make things more understandable.
@@czarcoma When they say "I feel like..." that many times, they are really not getting to the heart of anything - except what they feel like.
Thankyou, Elina, for doing this tedious analysis. As an older engineer who's had access at times inside secure areas of a few major reactors, I also find Cleo's presenter skills positive, UNTIL in a third of her videos, my bullshit detector trips several times over half-truths and misrepresented contexts, which are very tedious to sort through.
Though I find her polish on graphics and voice over skills easier to view, I find your information and analysis more realistic and trustworthy. That's important in high costs and risks tech fields.
I really liked this video and found it very interesting. Thanks for making it!
I'm looking forward to watching more of your content.
I absolutely love your videos! The CZcams algorithm actually brought me to Julia‘s video months ago. It was excellent to view this video afterwards. Very informative..
Somewhat true for both of you. I have heard from multiple sources: that much of the nuclear waste in the USA (we don't reprocess our waste) can be placed in the blanket of a molten salt thorium reactor and then used to produce more heat and electricity. The advantage is that it would reduce the nuclear waste storage time from 10,000 years to 300 or 500 years. (some sources have said 300 years while others are saying 500 years. Can you tell me what the discrepancy or disagreement is over the variations in years. Hint, I am not a nuclear engineer or have extensive nuclear knowledge, so Keep It Simple Stupid or KISS in your explanation) I hear that France reprocesses their nuclear plant waste. Is this true?
It would be interesting to hear more about Japan releasing tritium water into the ocean
Yes, latest hot topic. Worth to disspell the doubts of people around the world. Since it is doing a lot of harm to entire sector of nuclear energy production in general. People deserve to get a well-balanced scientific analysis of this situation and of all facts involved.
Stumbled upon your site…love the persona, the message and the drive! To be commended.
We must start collectively doing what this woman is doing and supporting those that are trying to make this world better.
Fuel reprocessing was a thing in the US. Look up west valley demonstration project, where i did some work building systems to clean up the facility after the owner was told of mandatory upgrades that would make an unprofitable business even worse. Where lots of the technology used to clean up places like hanford was developed.
My brother is a certified (worked in the field at least 5 years) electrical engineer whose specialization is power generation systems, with a focus on nuclear power. He's worked at the San Diego reactor, and more recently, headed up a waste cleanup project with Bechtel at the Hanford Site in WA. I remember when he first learned about nuclear power, he told me and my other brother that pretty much every portrayal The Simpsons made of nuclear power was incorrect minus the fact it's radioactive, and there are cooling towers.
He was telling us he blames the media's ignorance and unfounded hysteria over the 3 Mile Island incident, and The Simpsons' anti-nuclear propaganda (which is all founded on the lies around 3 Mile Island), for the negative attitude of a lot of people towards nuclear power. It also doesn't help when Russians and the Japanese take short cuts in build quality or do stupid experiments with their reactors. We would never have a Chernobyl or Fukushima here in the US, because we build our reactors to withstand unbelievably destructive cataclysms, and we don't screw around.
Security in these places is top notch. He was telling us about a security drill they had at I think it was the San Diego reactor where they worked with the DoD to test their security. The test was for a Navy Seal team to get to the reactor and "overload" it, on an unannounced day. The Seals managed to succeed, finding a weak spot in the security defenses (they came in through the cooling intake from the ocean, brute-forcing it with cutters. Upon completion of the exercise, the Seals and the nuclear plant security worked on a solution to defend against future breaches. I just thought that was super cool, and its reassuring that security is challenged so weak points are found by our guys rather than foreign enemies.
Anyway, the data is very clear that per kilowatt hour, nuclear power is the safest, cleanest, cheapest, proven, and most reliable source of power on the market. I live within about 30 miles of the Hanford reactor, and man, electric is cheap af here. In the summer, when it's 100F-110F outside, I have the AC in my apartment running 65F, as well as a gaming PC and refrigerator, and my electric bill is about $42/mo. In more temperate and colder seasons, it's about $32/mo. I'm gonna miss this cheap energy when I move next year, but, gas where I'm moving to is more than a dollar cheaper than here in WA, and I drive for a living, so while electric is more costly, I'll save a ton of money by having the cheaper gas. Almost all the cost of gas here in WA is state tax. It's goddamn $4.70/gal at the moment. F--- Inslee.
You lost me when you arrogantly dismissed her reference to a Simpson’s joke about t green goo. Apparently you don’t like people with a sense of humor.
Also you arrogantly criticized her for not already knowing that waste had energy content. Most people don’t know that, and Cleo is a reporter who researches stories of which she has no prior knowledge. That’s what reporters do. Her technique is engaging and very educational. You can refute things she got wrong without insulting her.
Bravo! Great comment on a really complex subject that beyond all science has so many social, economical, political and military implications. Wasn't aware of that at all even though I follow Cleo for a long time already...thanks!
Absolutely informative. Thank you for your thoughts and the sharing of your knowledge.
Thank you. I am learning new, incredible stuff about nuclear energy with each one of your uploads. You're doing a great job communicating misunderstood aspects of nuclear energy. Thanks!
Thank you so very much for doing this. It is a great weight off my mind to hear a expert in the field voice. Their opinions on what’s being said on CZcams.
Great video and fantastic information. Thank you for the breakdown!
Wonderful video, thank you! And yes, I would love to see a video contrasting the different generations of nuclear reactors, cheers!
Very informative. Nice to hear an explanation from someone who is an expert in the field. If you haven't covered it yet, I would like to see a video about design flaws in nuclear reactors that caused accidents in the past & how new designs can avoid nuclear meltdown. On a tangent, you look great in the outfit at 2:01.
Great breakdown to understand more the nuclear nuances and process. Subscribed!
Nice review. Thank you for adding your own perspective. :)
Brilliant....thankyou for talking us thru in simple terms, i learned alot👌👍
I had just watched the video with Cleo Abram. Your critique was very useful in understanding the drawbacks of recycling at this time. I believe more information from those like yourself will, in time, furnish, to the public, that will mitigate their fears about nuclear power.
Hello Elina!.. love your channel.. your commentary about nuclear waste and reuse .. we need to get the word out!!
“It’s expensive.” If the cost is less than that of storing, maintaining, and securing the current spent fuel for 100,000 years then it is not expensive.
Great review and excellent information! Thank you!
I am subscribed to Cleo Abram's and Sabine Hossenfelder's channels as well as yours. I really appreciate your reviewing some of their videos and think you are very good at this. It's almost like a peer review for scientific papers. Thank you for your reviews and explanation to us non-scientists.
I have worked in the Äspö laboratorium as well as Onkalo repository in Finland. I have also worked at various nuclear power plants in Sweden.
If you can get in to Onkalo, and can make a video about it, it will be very nice!
It's a really cool place!
I enjoyed your video on Äspö. I saw a lot of my work in your video!
Thanks great to hear! Thanks for the info ⚛️☢️👩🏽🔬
More information the better, I am interested in knowledge regard different nuclear reactor version and the storage in Norway Thanks for complementing the original video.
Great expert analysis -presented in terms understandable to the lay person- of an important topic that too few people know anything about and too many people know too little about. Also excellent command of English -and nice t-shirt. Thank You.
Thank you for that video and the information it provides. I missed some information about the challenges and down sides of the fast breeder reactors (FBR). The ones that have been built, are pretty unsafe so far.
Again, love your videos. Question...what combination of technologies do you think should be developed to meet energy needs, over the next couple of decades?
Keep the vids coming!!!
Grew up near Argonne NL. They had a public open house I remember going to as a little kid in the early 90s. I think they've realized they have an issue with public perception for a long time, but they haven't managed to make much headway yet.
Very glad to see someone working on doing something with the waste other than leaving it onsite.
That "Breeder in the Desert" film about EBR-II from Argonne NL (produced in the mid 60s, I think) from which a lot of clips in the original video come is really interesting. Argonne's whole CZcams channel is fantastic, but their old films are incredible. Great video, Elina! I think Australia is about to talk about discussing perhaps looking at maybe starting to lift the nuclear power generation ban ... yes, the world's biggest exporter or uranium has a ban on nuclear power. What?
EDIT: The other great film (I think from ORNL, not Argonne) is about the Integral Fast Reactor (IFR) program, which was a proposal for a commercially viable fast breeder with reprocessing. And as far as my understanding of reprocessing goes, the plutonium that is extracted is too radioactive to be a diversion risk; that is, you'd die during the getaway if you even got it out of the facility. But I have also heard Matthew Bunn, a really interesting nuclear policy expert, say that the level of radioactivity _could_ be adequately dealt with by some party/parties attempting to divert fissionable, weapons-grade material. So, I've never come across anything conclusive on that one.
Also, it always turns out that capitalism is the reason why we can't have anything nice. Hehe. 😜
Elina, I loved your video clarifying Cleo Abram's video. Thank you so much :-)