“45 seconds” - Stan, you made me howl. Can you say “awkward “? Dude knew something was wrong when he started stammering and losing concentration (and the sales pitch). I sure hope they figure the battery thing out, because this would be very useful indoors with low operating noise and zero emissions.
Dude said it was a prototype that they're using to work bugs out for the final product. I'm not a fan of it being fully electric, I'd still like to see something like this with a diesel genset that runs the electric drive motors like the CAT D6XE. Heck, something like that in a heavy duty ASV forestry CTL would be cool. Electric motors were made to be punished and ran continually so I can see the benefits, I'm just not on board with battery power. One application I've heard people say something like this Bobcat would be ideal for is indoor job sites or places in enclosed spaces like bulk cargo ships where they can be lowered down to move the last bit of product to the conveyors or something like that.
Edison motors out of BC canada have the right idea, cat has been using diesel electric systems for years in the Canadian oilfield they are more reliable and efficient
I think that’s pretty cool actually especially that you have no fluids. I literally do not care what makes things move as long as they can do the job and be cost effective. So if they get the bugs out of it and it doesn’t cost $150k that bobcat would be pretty cool. Btw 45 seconds😂
I can vouch the cat nextgens are incredible machines from the factory !!! The 2d touch point systems totally make up for a bad laborer or no laborer at all in most situations . Installing the rcp pipe and things like that you are at the mercy of your ground guy
The price of the machine will be crazy plus you can’t use your existing hydraulic attachments. Inside or towns would be the place for these, but I don’t think it will take off like they expect.
I would love to drive and see these machines in action. I know y’all don’t even think twice cause it’s your world. My god it looks so cool to run these and to try them out. I’m living vicariously through your experience.
I have been trying to think of the name but some company already makes or made, an electric skid steer. It was corded IRC. It was made to use indoors. I can not remember where it was I saw it. It has been ten years ago or more. Cordless hand tools have been a game changer but we just do not have the battery tech at this moment in time to make EV cars, trucks and equipment be very practical.
Keep up the great videos, I believe they’re running an extra hydro pump so you can use your old attachments. I also believe they’re developing electric attachments.
It shouldn be that hard of a job to run a hydropump on the maschine at the same time. Only that your battery life will go from 6-7 hours down to maybe 2 befor you need a recharge. Then you can wait 16 hours befor your can run 2 hours again. Unless you can get a tesla charger for it so it can charge up to 80 in about 1 hour its not realistic with this runtime at all.
TBH electric equipment like this isn’t ever going to replace diesel or other fossil fuel based equipment, at least not in our lifetimes. However, it will have a market, such as when work needs done indoors or an area where emissions, fluids, and/or noise are a concern.
Yeah Stanley I think I'm on the same page in 45 seconds you can burn up and die when the battery is decide to blow up like Tesla. especially if the machine is stopped like it was and the door won't open because it won't fully open due to the support tube across the hoist arms
Was thinking the same thing. 45 secs of operation turns into a coffin. At least a hydraulic boom you can hit the stick and drop it unless that's got an electrical relay.
Good point , most skid steers I run have an emergency escape window behind the operators head. .. you hope you never have to use it but caterpillar is the same way! If it cuts out with the boom up at all you can't open the door . Sad thing is most of my operator buddies arnt fitting out that window even if their life depends on it
The great Mayor of Boston Massachusetts has signed a bill that will require any project the city is financing or building has to be run with all electric vehicles. So I guess all of you in Boston should not look forward to any new buildings or projects completed any time soon and it’s going to be a crazy expensive price tag.
Dude owning mistakes is so much easier … clearly that’s why it’s a protoype I mean breaking trends isn’t easy otherwise other s would be doing it… so I don’t think electric equipment is there just yet… another 5-10 years and another 20-30 on the power grid and it will be ready
I’m not worried about reliability I’m worried about fire ,jobsite charging, purchase price, not having to wearing a full body silicone condom to prevent life ending shocks, the massive amount of surge energy cost billed to me to charge in a reasonable time , battery lifecycle ext reliability is the last thing I’m concerned about Also any rep that can’t tell me what the shock protection/isolation is and its lifecycle would never get a thought of a purchase let alone a penny
Seen a video from tractor time with Tim using an electric tractor. As soon as it gets low on charge, it legit goes into limp mode. Personally not a fan of having to do work then charge for "x" amount of hours when I could take a min to refuel.
All electric bobcat is interesting seems like a hybrid approach would be better… probably not much different from electric forklift….probably same market don’t think many job sites have dedicated power to charge them …run a generator 5 to 8 hours?
My old 8k lb skid didn't like soft ground. I can't imagine how useless a 12k lb wheeled machine would be, unless your always in dry conditions or pavement!
"Calibration" of what ? Unless you swap parts for others proprietary parts with different internal values (resistance,impedance,serial numbers in chips etc...) ,computers don't have to calibrate while the machine is running. The computers already have in their memories all those values from the assembly line. I suspect more like a memory dump,or tele transmission to their headquarters of all what you did with your machine,so they can sell datas to brokers,or simply study your habits for marketing and cheapen on specific components. You don't need preventative maintenance on those machines,wich are supposed to be (and are) way simpler than combustion engines ones. You can detect pressure or flow loss,but that mean that a bunch of sensors are added to it ,and surely enough,limitations of the machine will occurs from their side via GPS or something to not engage their warranty unless you go at the dealer.
At least it never burst into flames like the DEWALT zero turn mower that was only on display , couldn’t put the fire out so they dug a hole and buried the thing , unless the door of that bobcat swings up someone with get fried in it if using with the loader up , down sent bear contemplating,
Not sure electric heavy equipment is the thing yet. We don't have advanced enough technology for that. Electric cars are one thing but vehicles that have 1, 2, 300 gallon fuel tanks will require ALOT of juice.
Electric vehicles of any kind might be reliable one day, but it's not exactly today. Battery storage and reliability. It kind if funny, that it happened, when you were there. If people wanted to buy electric car or construction equipment today, than more power to you. The bugs still have to be worked out.
This technology for construction is still a wayyys off. Sure it has its benefits for running indoors and possible noise restrictions, but beyond that no one that depends on their machines to put food on the table will be willing to take a leap of faith with these
Wait, lets address the elephant in the room. Is no on going to mention that there was 2 MONKS checking out excavating equipment? They must have been Theravada monks due to the orange robes. They wouldn't even need safety vests!
I can't see this working out well with regular lithium ions. I think they'd need a less sensitive chemistry considering the abuse. And probably a battery that can be swapped like a forklift. Zero doubts an electric can have more than enough power and be more reliable if they do the battery well.
Battery powered construction equip is about as logical as EV transport.😂 Then when you decide to purchase that for your fleet, better not park it beside your other machinery .
Check out Edison Motors Topsy on youtube, an electric truck with diesel generator. I think a setup like that has more chance in the field then full electric.
Not True but if a ICE car truck or a piece of equipment catches on fire the fire can be put out and EV is the opposite way the fire cant be put out it has to burn itself out that can take hours to days
5 to 7hrs. Lol. How many guys going to run the batteries flat and forget they still have to get it on the trailer to get it to the shop to charge it. So much for keeping equipment at the job site till job done.
@@kubota33 yeah im getting a 36 inch walk behind wright mower comes with 18 hp kawaisaki engine but i might switch engines on it put a 18hp kubota diesel on it instead wich be the best 18hp diesel engine for my 36inch walk behind
@@michaelmactavish4445 Oh I forgot, the bobcat s70 and the small wheel loader use the kubota engines. The salesman didn't know that until I pointed it out. Kubota are usually very good engines
@@kubota33 yeah i was pricing 18hp kubota gas and diesel wich wasnt bad for $1,800 wich was pretty cheap then the $12,000 wich was rediculas at the deeres
“45 seconds” - Stan, you made me howl. Can you say “awkward “? Dude knew something was wrong when he started stammering and losing concentration (and the sales pitch).
I sure hope they figure the battery thing out, because this would be very useful indoors with low operating noise and zero emissions.
Dude said it was a prototype that they're using to work bugs out for the final product. I'm not a fan of it being fully electric, I'd still like to see something like this with a diesel genset that runs the electric drive motors like the CAT D6XE. Heck, something like that in a heavy duty ASV forestry CTL would be cool. Electric motors were made to be punished and ran continually so I can see the benefits, I'm just not on board with battery power.
One application I've heard people say something like this Bobcat would be ideal for is indoor job sites or places in enclosed spaces like bulk cargo ships where they can be lowered down to move the last bit of product to the conveyors or something like that.
Edison motors out of BC canada have the right idea, cat has been using diesel electric systems for years in the Canadian oilfield they are more reliable and efficient
But skid steers are mostly for running hydraulic attachments. They are essentially power packs
that is a interesting point.. as i do see many tools with hydraulic needs,, so what every thing gets an electric motor.
I wouldn't say mostly. It's primarily to move dirt and materials. Some of us, never run attachments.
Not sure what would motivate someone to say something like this
You should check out Edison, they're developing a diesel > battery > electric logging truck, and other conversions.
I think that’s pretty cool actually especially that you have no fluids. I literally do not care what makes things move as long as they can do the job and be cost effective. So if they get the bugs out of it and it doesn’t cost $150k that bobcat would be pretty cool. Btw 45 seconds😂
I can vouch the cat nextgens are incredible machines from the factory !!! The 2d touch point systems totally make up for a bad laborer or no laborer at all in most situations . Installing the rcp pipe and things like that you are at the mercy of your ground guy
1:41 I’m glad you agree. Funny enough that’s me he’s talking to in that clip. Stan is a great dude and I’m glad I was able to meet him.
The price of the machine will be crazy plus you can’t use your existing hydraulic attachments. Inside or towns would be the place for these, but I don’t think it will take off like they expect.
I would love to drive and see these machines in action. I know y’all don’t even think twice cause it’s your world. My god it looks so cool to run these and to try them out. I’m living vicariously through your experience.
I have been trying to think of the name but some company already makes or made, an electric skid steer. It was corded IRC. It was made to use indoors. I can not remember where it was I saw it. It has been ten years ago or more.
Cordless hand tools have been a game changer but we just do not have the battery tech at this moment in time to make EV cars, trucks and equipment be very practical.
I'm happy to see someone (bobcat) is looking toward tomorrow instead of yesterday.
That'll sell a lot of units! NOT!
The electric machines are the greatest thing to kill productivity on the job site. We have tested Case and John Deere electric backhoes all failed
Gee,great sound effects Alex!!
Batteries just don’t cut it sometimes Stan . Great video brother.👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Would have liked to hear the reactions from all those who 'drove' the electric bobcat.
How will they run all the hydraulic attachments? Or high flow attachments? That’s a massive obstacle I would think?
Keep up the great videos, I believe they’re running an extra hydro pump so you can use your old attachments. I also believe they’re developing electric attachments.
It shouldn be that hard of a job to run a hydropump on the maschine at the same time. Only that your battery life will go from 6-7 hours down to maybe 2 befor you need a recharge.
Then you can wait 16 hours befor your can run 2 hours again.
Unless you can get a tesla charger for it so it can charge up to 80 in about 1 hour its not realistic with this runtime at all.
Nice one Stan. 👍👍🏴🏴
DeWalt ride on lawn mower! poof, fire 🔥, flames 😮😂
TBH electric equipment like this isn’t ever going to replace diesel or other fossil fuel based equipment, at least not in our lifetimes. However, it will have a market, such as when work needs done indoors or an area where emissions, fluids, and/or noise are a concern.
🤣🤣 45 secs , damn near spit my drink out when you said that you made 3 kids in 45 secs 😂😂😂
It's a neat machine. It would be great for indoor or noise sensitive applications.
Stan is the man!
I am ready for a 5 hour work day
Yeah Stanley I think I'm on the same page in 45 seconds you can burn up and die when the battery is decide to blow up like Tesla. especially if the machine is stopped like it was and the door won't open because it won't fully open due to the support tube across the hoist arms
Was thinking the same thing. 45 secs of operation turns into a coffin. At least a hydraulic boom you can hit the stick and drop it unless that's got an electrical relay.
Good point , most skid steers I run have an emergency escape window behind the operators head. .. you hope you never have to use it but caterpillar is the same way! If it cuts out with the boom up at all you can't open the door . Sad thing is most of my operator buddies arnt fitting out that window even if their life depends on it
1h of work and 5h of charging?
I like the almost a full work day
Need a vac excavation attachment for compact (3-4ton) excavators. Make spotting utilities without mess.
But Stan, this video was longer than 45 seconds... 😁
What demo doesn’t have heavy material to move around? Sales guy is definitely trying to hold the product up
I heard the rep has cut his interviews down to 44 seconds 😂
You are a funny guy . . . Making your 3 kids in 45 seconds.
The great Mayor of Boston Massachusetts has signed a bill that will require any project the city is financing or building has to be run with all electric vehicles. So I guess all of you in Boston should not look forward to any new buildings or projects completed any time soon and it’s going to be a crazy expensive price tag.
Just take the Government Incentivs away all of this BS with battery Power Equipment will go away over night
Sure seems fun to run a skid steer without any noise.
What does it cost to replace the batteries?
You just buy a new machine!
Controlling trench depth is great. Still need ditch man to spot hazards/utilities.
I’ll rather have the 1997 we have at work, beat but works every time
5-7 hours = less than 4.
Haha i was getting ready to comment "thats what she said". Beat me to it
The mower🔥?
Dude owning mistakes is so much easier … clearly that’s why it’s a protoype I mean breaking trends isn’t easy otherwise other s would be doing it… so I don’t think electric equipment is there just yet… another 5-10 years and another 20-30 on the power grid and it will be ready
Dead on. Comments section is full of clueless fat operators who live off the inventions of others.
Imagine buying a battery powered bobcat lmao this world is getting so goofy.
Battery is far off from being reliable it's not even funny.
I’m not worried about reliability I’m worried about fire ,jobsite charging, purchase price, not having to wearing a full body silicone condom to prevent life ending shocks, the massive amount of surge energy cost billed to me to charge in a reasonable time , battery lifecycle ext reliability is the last thing I’m concerned about
Also any rep that can’t tell me what the shock protection/isolation is and its lifecycle would never get a thought of a purchase let alone a penny
So far off. Need a 220 plug to charge it! What job site has one available?
Seen a video from tractor time with Tim using an electric tractor. As soon as it gets low on charge, it legit goes into limp mode. Personally not a fan of having to do work then charge for "x" amount of hours when I could take a min to refuel.
They need to take a page out of locomotive and oilfield equipment where they use diesel electric hybrids way more reliable and useful
And what is the battery life on a two year old electric bob-cat in the cold winter... 45 minutes?
Im surprised he didn't walk over and tell the guy its not covered under warranty.
That's what she said 🤣👍👍👍
All electric bobcat is interesting seems like a hybrid approach would be better… probably not much different from electric forklift….probably same market don’t think many job sites have dedicated power to charge them …run a generator 5 to 8 hours?
6 tons....for a wheeled machine, yet
About a year ago they were saying it would retail around $200k
My old 8k lb skid didn't like soft ground. I can't imagine how useless a 12k lb wheeled machine would be, unless your always in dry conditions or pavement!
"Calibration" of what ?
Unless you swap parts for others proprietary parts with different internal values (resistance,impedance,serial numbers in chips etc...) ,computers don't have to calibrate while the machine is running.
The computers already have in their memories all those values from the assembly line.
I suspect more like a memory dump,or tele transmission to their headquarters of all what you did with your machine,so they can sell datas to brokers,or simply study your habits for marketing and cheapen on specific components.
You don't need preventative maintenance on those machines,wich are supposed to be (and are) way simpler than combustion engines ones.
You can detect pressure or flow loss,but that mean that a bunch of sensors are added to it ,and surely enough,limitations of the machine will occurs from their side via GPS or something to not engage their warranty unless you go at the dealer.
7:53 , Luckily it’s not Samsung Equipment, then we’d had to worry about the batteries exploding! 😅
Love our bobcat T300 awesome machine but that is a reason I don't want new technology.
It's a very nice machine but they need to fix this problem!
I want to like these machines but i just can’t get on board yet
Stanley, does that mean if you had twins it would have taken you 1:30 😝
😂 also how is that going to work for snow removal? And who has 220 on most job sites?
Do you mean the dewalt zero turn mower that burst into 🔥 ( I think it was dewalt)
BC is it on CZcams love to see that
LETS SEE HOW IT DOES PLOWING SNOW WITH THE BATTERYS
At least it never burst into flames like the DEWALT zero turn mower that was only on display , couldn’t put the fire out so they dug a hole and buried the thing , unless the door of that bobcat swings up someone with get fried in it if using with the loader up , down sent bear contemplating,
Not sure electric heavy equipment is the thing yet. We don't have advanced enough technology for that. Electric cars are one thing but vehicles that have 1, 2, 300 gallon fuel tanks will require ALOT of juice.
Electric vehicles of any kind might be reliable one day, but it's not exactly today. Battery storage and reliability. It kind if funny, that it happened, when you were there. If people wanted to buy electric car or construction equipment today, than more power to you. The bugs still have to be worked out.
Hmm i know a lot of companys go 12 to 14 hrs a day. No ev for me
What's the resale value? If it's anything like a EV vehicle it'll be terrible. I'd never want one
But you can’t run a grapple,auger,etc that you already own
lol NO thanks…maybe someday but not today 😂
This video reminded me of wall-e
This technology for construction is still a wayyys off. Sure it has its benefits for running indoors and possible noise restrictions, but beyond that no one that depends on their machines to put food on the table will be willing to take a leap of faith with these
5 to 7 hours of run time, and you need a 220 v power source. Not really a piece of equipment in the feild is it? Wait, 45 seconds? Each, or total?
You rent a diesel powered generator for the jobsite lol
Good for Indoors
It's a prototype bug are expected, the fact it works for 2 minutes is actually very good for a prototype Tbh
This is the best take yet. Its a prototype and compared to most prototype vechicles, its working way better than expected.
Wait, lets address the elephant in the room. Is no on going to mention that there was 2 MONKS checking out excavating equipment? They must have been Theravada monks due to the orange robes. They wouldn't even need safety vests!
Oh, and i don't fault CAT for a literal "Prototype" locking up.
Silent machines can be dangerous to unaware people working around them. Operator doesn't always see everything.
battery should be easy to remove so you can swap on site and charge at home
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Hmmm.. charges for free on magic grid power too... Or just put a solar panel on the roof! Lol
The electric grid is not going to handle all this plug in 😢
Could only handle watching for about 45 seconds at a time
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Electric has a long way to go before it goes on any large scale worksite it looks like
why is it lifting the front tires off the ground when ever the bucket is dropped. Losing traction for one thing. In-experienced operators do that.
I guess you will not be buying a Cybertruck 😊
again this has a niche purpose i dont understand the hate on this, its not meant to be a replacement
Remember when cordless drills really sucked? Now no one uses a corded drill.
That was 1994 lol
I’m not a fan of all this EV stuff but sometime in the future our tech will catch up and we will have great machines. We are not there yet obviously.
Would love to see that machine breaking concrete up and not sand.
I can't see this working out well with regular lithium ions. I think they'd need a less sensitive chemistry considering the abuse. And probably a battery that can be swapped like a forklift. Zero doubts an electric can have more than enough power and be more reliable if they do the battery well.
Must not plan on ever marketing it for snow removal.
It's fun to drive 😂😂😂😂😂. Hybrid yes.....all electric.....big fat NO!!
Battery powered construction equip is about as logical as EV transport.😂 Then when you decide to purchase that for your fleet, better not park it beside your other machinery .
Noise restrictions...
Check out Edison Motors Topsy on youtube, an electric truck with diesel generator. I think a setup like that has more chance in the field then full electric.
I feel like dirt would be way to hard on linear actuators unless you constantly keep up on dust seals.
there's a place for electric scid loader in a building is an example
ice vehicles "burst" into flames at a higher rate than evs. Just say'n.
Not True but if a ICE car truck or a piece of equipment catches on fire the fire can be put out and EV is the opposite way the fire cant be put out it has to burn itself out that can take hours to days
All your kids and 45 seconds; very amusing
5 to 7hrs. Lol. How many guys going to run the batteries flat and forget they still have to get it on the trailer to get it to the shop to charge it. So much for keeping equipment at the job site till job done.
yeah bobcat and kubota are with same best reliable kubota engines
Bobcat first used Kubota engines before switching to Tier IV Doosan engines in 2015
@@kubota33 yeah im getting a 36 inch walk behind wright mower comes with 18 hp kawaisaki engine but i might switch engines on it put a 18hp kubota diesel on it instead wich be the best 18hp diesel engine for my 36inch walk behind
@@michaelmactavish4445
Oh I forgot, the bobcat s70 and the small wheel loader use the kubota engines. The salesman didn't know that until I pointed it out.
Kubota are usually very good engines
@@kubota33 yeah i was pricing 18hp kubota gas and diesel wich wasnt bad for $1,800 wich was pretty cheap then the $12,000 wich was rediculas at the deeres
The bobcat i world rather have the deisel engine with out the hydraulic so it can be refueled easily and keep going especially with the lift calenders
Any electric machine would have to work for atleast five hours and get fully charged within a half hour luch break.
Considering all of our electronic components including motors and actuators are made in China, I wouldn't count on reliability.
A battery excavator is about as reliable as a battery drill. You start a job with it then go get a real machine to finish it
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Linear actuators are a terrible choice for this, They will end up with hydraulic over electric if they follow through.
Non of that electric crap for me The government is trying to force it down our throat and tell you how clean it is, but it’s not very clean at all.
For city folks that don't like a lot of noise sure this work for everybody!! NOT!!
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