WORLD'S MOST POPULAR 30 KPH KICKSCOOTERS - Xiaomi M365 Pro v Ninebot MAX v Ninebot ES4 Comparison !
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- čas přidán 27. 10. 2019
- Big thanks to Paweł and Łukasz for making this video happen!
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Specifications for Doggo in a Coat:
Nominal/Peak power
M365 Pro: 300W/700W (peak power can be software altered up to 1100W)
ES4: 300W/800W
Max: 350W/700W
Battery Capacity:
M365 Pro: 474 Wh
ES4: 374 Wh
Mac: 550 Wh
(All scooters are 36V nominal)
Weight:
M365 Pro: 14,2 kg
ES4: 14 kg
Max: 19,5 kg
Dimensions:
M365 Pro: 108.00 x 46.00 x 49.00 cm
ES4: 102 × 43 × 113 cm
Max: 1,167 x 472 x 1,203 mm
Brakes:
M365 Pro: Rear Disc + Front Motor
ES4: Rear foot + Front Motor
Max: Front drum + rear motor
Charging:
M365 Pro: 8 hrs
ES4: 7 hrs
Max: 6 hrs
Why was I waiting for this man to trip and push all of the scooters in the water😂
Man I could have done that 😂
@@mr_wrongway Can use choose best one for me from 👉 Xiaomi M365 Pro /OR\ 👉 Ninebot ES4
@@mehakdhillon6409 get m65 pro. Jts just better
So which is the best one
@@blackwhite-vn6jh max
I love that you included the Wh of the batteries, normally you only hear range and charging time.
One of the best videos comparing scooters out there! Awesome job! Nice tennis too.
Great overview! Thanks.
I'm buying the ninebot max next week!! Am so excited, gunna take it to downtown Chicago and ride around!!!
Congrats Matthew !!!
Just want to let you know that I just purchased mine this morning (December 29) from Amazon who offered a $100 off clip coupon. I hope that helps.
Hey man, how is your ninebot max doing? Im thinking of buying it this week. Is a bit lower ground clearence problem?
@@marinb.1760 It's awesome more range then you need!!! Very solid built
How's the ninebot going still performing?
Love my ninebot max 🤙🏽 cheers from NYC!
Excellent review. Thanks.
Thank You!
This defo need more likes and views
I've been waiting the whole time for the guy to fall into the water ^^
is the rear fender on this g30max scoter a little bit more on right side of the scoter or mine is damaged?
Ostatnio byłem na zlocie UTO, skąd wróciłem chory na Speedway 4 mini pro (jako posiadacz emki)
Nie zwróciłem na mini uwagi między innymi przez Twój test drogi Wrongwayu, gdzie mowa była głównie o tym, czy jeździ po trawie i pod górkę.
Nie wiedziałem , że sprzęt ten ma najlepszy na rynku stosunek masy do prędkości i zasięgu, oferując przy tym niezły komfort.
Trzeba podkreślać takie rzeczy, łowić perełki, prezentować je ludziom.
Ten test jest dobry, merytoryczny, taki zasięg, taka prędkość, taka masa, (nie taki jak poprzedni emki pro).
Swoją drogą uważam, że Speedway 4 mini pro zasługuje na znacznie więcej uwagi na Twoim kanale.
Jeśli mogę Ci coś zaproponować: może stworzysz ranking UTO w pewnych kategoriach?
Masa/zasięg?
Cena/jakość?
Najlepszy wybór w 2019 do kwoty.... ??
przewija się przez Twoje ręce mnóstwo sprzętu , byłoby ogromną wartością usystematyzować tą wiedzę.
pozdro i gratuluję progresu, życzę licznej światowej widowni ;)
Dzieki za koment Arku :) to jest dobry pomysl, przygotuje to.
ta szybsza ale ma fatalny stosunek predkosci do hamulcow a nawet niebiorac pod uwagę predkosci jaka roziwja tylko robiąc test na tej samej co Xiaomi czy ninebot =słaby tylny bęben i brak przedniego hebla ., licznik naładowania bateri przeklamuje chociaz jak w większości 40% na liczniku a hulajnoga nie jedzie dalej i jest 1 k drozsza z wydajniejsza bateria do 50 km niż ninebot 65 km .czcams.com/video/ZK55Ys-ZJpM/video.html no i ma mniejsze gorzej wybierające nierownosci koła 8 cali vs ninebot 10 chociaż ma amortyzacje a ninebot nie to wiekszosc posiadaczy twierdzi ze lepiej się jeździ na 10 bez amora niż na 8 z amorem tak ze ogolnie speedway 4 jedynie pod względem przyspeiszen i vmaxu jest lepsze pozatym wypada średnio mniejszy zasieg niż ninebot (na papierze) gorsze wybieranie nierownosci słabsze heble ...tak ze speedwaya 4 mini pro bym poleciał ludzia którzy niepotrzebuja zaduzo hamować;) maja górzysty teren i ładny asfalt gładki bez dziur ...
Good, reliable comparison. It is also worth mentioning that due to solid wheels and electronic brake, Segway the least prone to mechanical emergencies. You don’t have to set anything up or control tyre pressure. I took my ES2 out of the box and just rode. It took it over 1300km to require quite simple cable repair. It cost me 90zl and has been working fine since. Now it is almost 2000km and I’ve just mounted external battery to give it a new life and more range. Great charge-and-go scooter. Greetings to good guys in Siedlce!
My first scooter riding experience was in Poland about 2 years ago, on a trip to Poznań, with the Lime scooters. At the time I remember it wasn’t allowed to ride on the street but only on the sidewalk, which was good for me as a new rider. How’s things currently, are you allowed on the street? Any regulations required? Do you see private scooters around? Since then I’ve had two Xiaomi and now a Ninebot Max G30, best one so far. Still not legal here in Ireland, but you won’t be stopped unless you do something stupid
@@rfh9560 Well, a lot has changed, at least in theory. The whole UTO stuff got regulated by the law. Now, if there is no bicycle lane, you HAVE to ride on the street, as long it has a speed limit of 20km/h, which is a general speed limit for such vehicles now. In practice, it is pointless and everybody just go as they like. The street is actually the worst place to go on an electric scooter as all the dangerous road bumps tend to be on its right side. Also, they are really frustrating for car drivers, so bicycle lanes remain the best for that purpose. Private scooters are really popular during summer, but even now, in winter you can see some people riding those. Citizens already got used to them so it became a natural, new way of transport. Personally, I had to quit it as my Ninebot broke (constant error of connectivity between external battery and the scooter itself). After two repairs, which might not had been costly, but still not really effective, I gave up. G30 Max seems to be the best choice now and I am happy to hear that it is serving you well. Good luck!
@@KubaSzczygielski thank you for the update 👌 . Scooters are the future of personal transportation
thanks for the info, big help! what helmet are u using? thanks
Great man good job
Is there any available storage bag we can buy for ninebot es4 or max?
Mam możliwość wzięcia używanej es4 za 1200zł lub używanej m365 (zwykłej, nie pro) za 1200. Co lepsze z tych dwóch? Widzę, że po osiągach es4 rozpędza się i jedzie szybciej, lecz czy koła w es4 faktycznie tak wkurzają i komfort jazdy w m365 jest dużo wyższy? Hulajnoga dla 190cm / 99kg faceta.
Dzięki :)
Thank you for the great video
ES4 rides much better if you tighten up the shock on the back which is under the deck, this gives a better ride and runs horizontal, if you leave it stock and it bottoms out and you are toes up, which is painful on your ankles. Also when derestricted will cruise at 38KPH and give you much more power from standard 500 watt motor to up to 800 which is what the motor is rated at. OK it drops the range, but if you plan to go 40KM+ use a car.
How do you know if you pick a xiaomi pro M365 and xiaomi regular?
Sold! Getting the max tomorrow
@Jayden Nguyen actually I was in Spain and could only get the max from china online, so ended up getting the pro in a store. I'm somewhat disappointed with it, but it is what it is.😅
I think that ES4 is the best price/possibilities when good care is taken on it.
Xiaomi is still good choice (soft tires but no suspension and no-ext. battery)
Ninebot MAX is the best but the price kills it for a "typical" user.
Sorta meh as the es4 and max have a 50$ diff
Hi, please which generation GEN1 or GEN2 you have been tested? Should I think that the GEN1 is better ? I know that GEN2 is newer but capacity, tires, size of board,...and so on
Gen1. Gen2 is better
Are the max and pro same speed on all countries or does it change.
Btw where you live
Pozdro z Siedlec 😃
Thanks for the comparison! Does MAX have a bigger battery compartment for future upgrades?
You are welcome! Sorry, we did not chceck yet...:/
No it doesn't since it already has a 15.3 Ah battery.
gtone339 Thanks! Read somewhere that the compartment is bigger than the battery itself.
@@martin.B777 There's a vid on youtube where someone opened the compartment and it seems that the battery occupies the whole lot, quite like the Xiaomi M365 Pro (from eastern European guy).
@@mr_wrongway What configuration of battery does the Max have? I think the Xiaomi Pro has 10S4P, so max should have 10S5P I assume?
Great review
SUPER...Jestem głuchy ale umiem czytać po polsku. BRAWO ZA NAPISY.
How about the slope test? Did max go wrong or good?
How do you change the region on your ninebot max to make it go faster?
Great review! I wish you covered hill-climbing ability.
Thanks! Yeh sorry i thought of that just when editing the video will do in future videos tho!
Just need a lav mic under your jersey to stop wind noise and yr vid would be pro fesh in allll. :D Good work!
Yeh it was quitw windy that day. Thanks for the tip!
I just reached 1000 km on my M365 PRO and I love it. I bought better tires from ali and now it sticks much better to the groud and tires are much more durable. I flashed custom FW and scooter can go 35km/h. It has peak power 1000W (by default) it is light with great range (but with my FW is under 30km :D). I also installed mudguard support, which is the must othervise the mudguard will fall of (you didn't mention this but your scooter has it too). Scooter survived some crazy rains with flooded pavements and NO water is inside. The water sealing is awesome. I also ride on mudy roads with no problems. I had no problem with this scooter whatsoever.
Where did you find the custom FW for the M365 Pro?
@@muSPKWoW I lowered the braking current to 25A and choosed the Enable built-in current-driving throttle algorithm. That enables max speed for all mods. Also throttle works like classic throtle in a car or motorbike. You can dose the power better with this oprion too. Awesome for slipy road :)
@@TheDownloader86 how do u go about doing this
im considering A NINEBOT ES4 .i found it for 799$, and thru affirm is 79$ a month what do you think?
I am considering about these two and I am still not convinced to the g30, the main reason is the availability to flash xiaomi to 32 km/h. So it would be faster although the wheels size. I also have much bouncy sidewalks and hills... The range isn't much important. My weight is 72kg. Sometimes i would to ride with gf on back (+50kg). How it looks when it comes to acceleration on hills / +1 person on back, between these 2? I am about to buy one in next week, waiting for promo
W końcu ktoś to zrobił :) zamawiam Maxa, dzięki!
Portability and weight is probably one of the key factors to consider if you use this as one of the modes to help you with transportation, especially when riding a bus or bringing it to office. The Max is just too heavy and bulky.
Ninebot max is awesome...i got the ninebot max pro which takes it up a notch more in terms build quality and steadiness. Downside though is its not foldable but still fits in a standard sedan.
Any slope test? .....very important to my region!
Are all these scooters stock with no firmware hacks?
I got the Ninebot G30D, which is the German version of the G30 MAX. The top speed is limited to 20 kp/h by law. I am 2m tall and my total weight is around 90 kg. Depending on what I wear and so on.
But I tuned the scooter, so it can run 30 kp/h.
Last time I made a 23 km ride at
3 degree C with a top speed of 29 kp/h. At 50 % the Scooter limited the top speed to 25 kp/h. At the end of the tour I had 38 % capacity left.
So with that in mind I assume a range of 35 km, which is huge.
Interestingly tho: At 20 kp/h the range is about the same in wintertime.
How did you tuned the top speed? The xiaomi doesn't have a top speed of 30km /h, it show only 25 on the websites
1:28 that duck lol
Why did the Xiaomi have an extra set of handlebars halfway down the main steering stem? Is that stock?
Mister_Toyota for child
Nillalicious oh thanks for the reply. That looks kinda cool and maybe I could use it with my kid. Do you know the brand or where I can get it? I tried looking up “kid bar handle for scooter” but didn’t find any great results.
A po nagraniu ogłoszenie: Sprzedam trzy hulajnogi po powodziowe :D . Normalnie jak nimi tam żonglowałeś to się bałem, że wleci Ci któraś do wody.
Ja na Ninebocie ES4 bez problemu osiągam 38km w warunkach miejsko-podmiejskich.
A mój egzemplarz z 2020 hamuje ma krótko drogę hamowania, chyba to poprawili.
honestly, I really think the max and the pro are both kinda same expect the pro is less expensive so i'd get the pro and it looks good too and my friend has one :D I'm getting the Xiaomi for sure!
They aren't the same. The max is all the way better, but the pro is a good scooter.
max is a LOT better
Ninebot Max is not tubeless, it has a tube with slime in it. The tire diameter is larger, 10", with the same rim/wheel size as the M365Pro. So this means the Max has more cushion then the Pro.
I was gonna say...
Anyone any news about modding m365 pro 1.6.6?
Btw, I bought 365 pro few weeks ago and started to regret, ninebot max looks pretty nice but price difference between them semms too big still
M365 Pro is way way lighter than Max. Max is too heavy. Regret nothing. I have M365 Pro and 1000W power. Rides perfectly.
I have a max I’m 53kg female why are you complaining about weight 🤣 it’s fine I can lift it, get to the gym bro
@@tillyt1611 you go to the gym, maybe that's why you have no problem with max :P sorry, just kidding :)
the Max is superior in all aspect including its price :')
Yes
Max is like 250 euros epxensiver than mi365 pro
portability?
not in all its more expenisv its heavier and it dont accelerate fasteer beside this yea it beat pro and es 4 in every els aspects :x
@@mociczyczki Max is much expensiver in my country, it's just not worth price, also it's not modable
I’m getting a max soon through our company’s bike 4 cash program :)
Good choice! Congrats!
I Dont get the option for lights in android or ios for es4
Helpmeout
He guys anyone who has one of these know if a bigger rider is a problem for them? Im a pretty big dude at around 190cm and 115kg would it be a problem cuz all of them state max rider wight is 100kg?
Zoom stryder here..love your videos...and thank you for english...helo.from.Romania
Hi there! Gotta check in on Speedy feet again :D thanks and hello from Poland! Btw 2500+ (maybe 3000km?) Review of GW Nikola coming soon :)
@@mr_wrongway whick nikola 21700?
Sadly no :( just a standard 84V 1600Wh. If I get my hands on any of the 21700 or 100V it'll be on the channel ;)
You could buy a second ninebot charger, one for the external battery and one for the scooters internal battery to maintain 3.5 hours charging time
would you buy ninebot max g30 over the Mi pro 2??
is max g30 better than mi pro2?
yes it is better
mi pro and mi pro 2 quite similar
I have a question about the Xiaomi M365 Pro does water go in when driving over water? I would like an answer thank you
Have a Bird One right now that would be awesome if it didnt require the app to work which is super buggy and sometime wont even let me unlock the scooter to ride it. But one good thing the Bird did was get me into scooters. So I did some research and just ordered the Ninebot Max yesterday. Looking forward to it!!
If I get one I'd probably add the suspension forks like they have on line/beam etc.
This defo Deserve more likes and viest
I mean views
I ordered the max after it went on sale for black Friday for $699 + $20 off "welcome" code + no tax on segway site . I'm looking forward to riding this beast . can someone that already owes one tell if if you can walk beside it just to get some exercise when your riding every now and then? my ninebot mini-pro has a little handle that pops up that you can walk with one hand very easy.
I'm thinking of getting the same thing, how long is the shipping for you?
The m365 pro comes standard 15 mph so how did your one manage to keep up with the others?
It comes with 25 kmph. But custom firmware can take it to 35 kmph.
@@turjosaha8314 Oh so you flashed the firmware then, I really don't know why Xiaomi don't just have an in app switch that allows you to take it to 20 mph anyway or close to it, 15 is too slow.
@@flitsies Because then it wouldn't be legal in many countries. Many EU countries only allow scooters to have a maximum speed of 25 kph / 15-16 mph in stock form. And that's a good thing when one looks at the imbeciles currently driving cars and riding bikes.
@@Tuppoo94 I'm sorry your arguments make no sense.
So Imbeciles drive cars and ride bikes, and both of those go faster than 15 mph in fact cars can often go over 120 mph but you are perfectly legal to drive them at whatever speed you want within restricted space of course, but an Escooter which probably has to lowest record for injuries and death of all the forms of transport on the road or other places and they are restricted to 15 mph.
Where is the logic in that, so the safer the vehicle the slower it is restricted to, even though at a faster pace the safety record is no where near as bad as the other forms of transport.
Millions die every year due to cars, they are not restricted to 15 mph, every year thousands die on bicycles, they have no device fitted to restrict them to 15 mph, maybe one or two died on an Escooter in the whole of Europe then suddenly without logic a 15 mph restriction imposed that simply makes no sense at all.
Also many people who buy these things don't live in dictatorial countries that dictate people's every move, some people actually live in countries that are more forward thinking, more in tune with tackling pollution rather than just trying to make money off it.
So why no app to allow these people to set a more useful speed for them?
The UK is a very backward country so I can't even use my own country as an example but there are countries where they are forward thinking even if their political system is backward, given time they seem to have a brighter future ahead of them.
@@flitsies Now I have to admit I couldn't bother to read your wall of text, and I guess your problem is complete horse shit.
Go take a shower, then go to sleep. Tomorrow you go to work. There is no other advice.
did any seat for Ninebot MAX now? looking for the seat for long trip!@
Ninebot hands down, can’t ride mine enough
Co to za rodzaj hełmu?
I just had es4 but it doesnt have a liting in the battery
The Xiaomi m365 PRO goes in 25km/h without any hacking!
how’d you get the xiaomi in that color?
Stickers I suppose
I own the ES4 and it's a nice little machine, I would have to avoid that xiaomi with those inflatable tires unless you want a huge pain in the ass every flat you get lol. BUT careful on those ES4's as the control can just die on you as my first one did in a freakin week.. .. thankfully i was NOT in sport mode or it could have been bad as i had NO brakes. Also the ES4 is the only one with suspension and i have hit rocks and mounted curbs with minimal impact, its more of a banging sound that can be scary sounding but it holds up like a champ i could NOT imagine riding one of these with No suspension lol.
There's mechanical break
The main plus is its convenience and weight, compared to max 30
the brakes in your es4 sounds awful, you just need to lubricate it
Getting the max lets goooo its the best
Please make a flying one hahaha
2:46 ducked
should i get the ninebot es4 or the xiaomi m365 pro?
pro
is the ninebot max highest ?
I'd like to know which one goes up hill the best.
I’d assume the m365 cause of the 800 watt peek power on the motor
M365 Pro. Blows the others out of the water.
Is the max more comfortable even though the es4 got suspension on it?
Yes, indeed. The bigger 10 inch tires to the job
Wrong Way! OK. Interesting. Because other reviews on yt were quiet satisfied. Thanks!
@@fatihk.8896 the thing with full tires is that the scooters are very "rattling" then and slippery. Not a buge fan of solid tires. Check out my video about m365 pro vs speedway mini 4 pro for more clues :) es4 has suspension for big bumps but small tires and solid tires make the ride harsh imo esprcially on a good surface
Много добър клип с много добра и полезна информация. Браво :) взех решение кое е по-доброто за мен.
Hope the nineboot still moved very well
Is it safe to unlock a scooters topspeed
Which one is the best going up hills?
Ninebot Max
Спасибо приятно смотреть ролики ВАШИ я уже купила xciomi 365
ХОЧУ КУПИТЬ С СИДЕНЬЕМ
@@user-zg2eb3vo4j aliexpress
It’s like comparing a 2 kg laptop with a 1,2 kg one of similar power and saying thie 2kg has more battery life, better thermals etc. But do you really want to carry your 2kg laptop everywhere? Personally I would take none of these. If you can afford the best is having both a lighter and confortable scooter and a heavier and more powerful one (unlike the max9
I can't believe! It happens in Siedlce! Where did you buy "safely" ninebot max? On the paper it's the best electric scooter in 2019.
Yeah it's amazing :D it was bought on Indiegogo. Now You can buy it cheap with link in the description. Long shipping tho. Yeh its really great everyday commute scooter. Not a performance scooter but great all in one at a good price
@@mr_wrongway Ja również ordered MAXa from Indiegogo. Mój rozwija predkość up to 20 km/h. :(
@@Komandrat just follow this guide :) czcams.com/video/-1QM71ioTBo/video.html
It's best economic scooter in 2019. Overall best scooter is Rion 2 or Mantis
Best electric scooter? WHAT? In what category? Price? Maybe. I have Speedway 4 it can go 55 miles on one charge, up to 27 mph, powered by LG cells. All those Xiami and Nineboots and other are like toys next to it.
Szkoda, że nie wiedziałem, że byłeś u mnie w mieście bo dałbym Ci przetestować mojego ekrossa atom 6,5kW... Nevermind 😁
A shieeet. To teraz wiem gdzie podjechac :D mozemy sie jakoś złapać nie jest tak daleko ,)
@@mr_wrongwayWbij na forum pojazdyelektryczne i napisz priv na nick Tooropek jak masz ochotę wpaść jeszcze raz do Siedlec 😆 Pozdro
@@Ebikedotcom ok :) pozdro!
Three scooters in a narrow surface close to water gave me a little anxiety
What about up hill?
I'm about to get the es4 I couldn't make my mind up but finally decided to get it can't wait I won't something small and able to kinda throw it around like has to have movability end I think the es4 is the one for me I use to always rent the lime but now they're gone
Why does it sound like they are saying show me?
Hello Poland much love from balkans ❤️
Polska GURĄ 🇵🇱💪
I still didn't get an answer is the Max worth an extra buck over Pro?
Depends on what you need. Better quality range and ergonomics but higher weight and price
@@mr_wrongway Thanks for such a fast response. I need it for ~15km overall daily commute.
I can get Max for 655€, M365 Pro/ES4 for 510€ and m365/ES2 for 375€.
Due to local roads being bumpy and badly maintained I have decided upon Xiaomi over Ninebot.
I was alright with paying more for Pro, but now I'm not sure if going almost double the initial price is worth it for the Max. I don't care about weight, I just want it to be reliable, comfortable (my lower back and knees are 'not the best' due to sports injuries) and last a few years without major maintenance. Guess I might just save some money and take the default version if the difference is insignificant to a regular user.
Wow what city in Poland is this?
Siedlce ;)
maps.app.goo.gl/VHTsDP72GwXLS4AM7
@@mr_wrongway looks realy picturesque and a nice place to live. I've been to Poland many times on a holiday and I hope to go there many times more so that's why I asked. Polska jest piękna! Greetings from a Dutch friend. :)
What's up with scooter makers not putting front and rear suspension?
I assume that the main reason is the price. Scooters in this video are affordable for average Joe. Good suspensions can be expensive. Also it's better to have no suspension than shitty suspension imho. And far majority of the people use these scooters in cities anyway.
Segway-Ninebot es lo mejor
Scooters just look so ungainly and delicate compared to EUC, those tiny wheels are barely bigger than my triskates (roller blades with 3 big wheels)
Rwd vs Fwd.... I love red :-)
I like the ES4
what does it mean tubeless ?
Ninebot ES4 30km range? Man, 75kg 178cm, I reached 30km and still have 20km left
do you recomend me buying the es4?????????
Aside the Scooters , Was that a Male Green Mallard Duck Quacking at you 😂😂😂😂
Smoked duck breasts do taste amazing 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
The es4 is the most reliable and long lasting plus swappable batteries
To już nie jest ten kanał
Por favor cuál es mejor minebot g30mx o el pro
Mejor es Ninebot Max :)