Ultimate Buying Guide 3 of 3 - Rigging a highline safely with minimal gear
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- čas přidán 3. 07. 2018
- The most expensive thing you will do slacklining/highlining is buy gear twice. In a perfect world you would buy gear that you can use for both slacklining and highlining. I present an option for an entire setup that would cost less than $1000 and you can do everything with and be able to add to it, rather than outgrow it.
This series is aimed for those who want to slackline AND highline and currently have no gear. My gear wall is not my success, it is my failure. No one needs that much shit! No one sponsors me and I don't sell gear, so I am as gear neutral as one can be (other than I have my personal favorites).
This video is the 3rd of the 3 in this series where we show an example in my backyard of how to rig a highline start to finish with very little gear so you don’t break the bank if you want to do this sport. In our 2nd video, we focus on how to use the gear just as a slackline in the park and the first video is in my studio explaining all the gear options teaching you HOW to buy, not WHAT to buy.
Remember, the cheapest way to slackline is to make friends in “high” places, people that already have the gear and know how to use it. Make a serious effort to find slackers or go to a slackline festival before purchasing anything.
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Though the videos are slack/high line specific there is a boat load of simple and honest rigging information to be gleaned. The fasteners and the bolts are applicable to a host of both hobby and work related rigging. Having a clear understanding of the strengths and the weaknesses of them in real world application makes for safer rigging! Thanks to Ryan for all the testing and information.
Hi Ryan. Thanks for this series man! Super cool info and well explained.
It changed my approach to longlining.
Thanks for yout time and commitment.
You are just awesome brother thanks you thanks you
You are definitely changing the way or how this sport it’s gonna progress
Just incredible thanks you again hope one day see you guys down in sudamericana
Love And keep it simple
Thanks! Glad you like them. I hope these videos can save you money.
As always Ryan, you are awesome!
These videos are amazing, thank you so much for the effort that you put into them. I always look forward to them!
Jason thank you!
I whish i would have found these earlier. Amazing channel. Keep up the nice work.
Ryan, THANK YOU! These videos were extremely helpful. Just bought all ma gerr!
How are you doing, Ben? I always loved watching your videos because they included subjects that I could relate to. I can never understand what your brother is talking about on his channel. It’s great to see you on Ryan’s incredible channel!
Hey @@mitchellbarnow1709! Are you high-lining now?!
Great video man really loved the series!
Mitch S thanks! I plan on doing a 4th video for this trilogy to include all the tips people have been sharing :)
Definitely going to give it a try and see if I can get good at this. If you guys are ever in Wisconsin highlining across the st.croix river from St.croix Falls WI to Taylor's falls MN would be sweet.
Thank you Ryan for all your amazing videos. If the set up was all natural, would the cams have steel quick links or aluminum carabiners?
rad videos! also, I've been using soft shackles on my soft release for over a year with no abrasion (low tension highlines only), just throwing that out there. also, I could sleeve the soft shackle if I was worried about it.
Your not the first person ive heard that from. Sounds like i need to slack snap this act of slack treason ;)
Hi Ryan, have you ever tested a frost knot in webbing made from 8 strands (a bite folded over, and then folded again) with the webbing sandwiched in between. Do you think it would hold more percentage of the webbing mbs as it has a much greater bend radius?
Thanks! Tomas from slacklinegranada, Spain
also i love ur vids
thanks Ryan for all the awesome vids. question, why would you tie of the webbing on the dynamic side but on the static side only use the loops in the webbing? I'd like to use sewn in loops but struggling how to tie off the webbing on that side, in case of an anchor breaks or weblock. thanks
This is a good question that is hard to answer :). What I could do better with this anchor without adding more gear is to tie my rope around tree/bush like I did in park, then use tail to go around tree again independently and go through sewn loop eye to make the connection to the loop redundant and to back up my soft release. Balance community sells sewn loops with an extra loop you can connect to master point, past the soft release, which is an awesome option.
Can you just put a ss carabiner, instead of the second bow shackle in the soft release?
how much stretch would you recommend at 10kN for a highline from 50-100m?
Curious what the strength is of the anchor at 6:29. Would be a super simple park rig. Also anyone know what rope?
Hi bro , one question: why you put the pure lock in that position? I have been seeing that you put the web locks with the rest of the webbing up side , what’s the reason bro? Thank for everything, saludos from Colombia
Weblocks upside down puts the tail on top and if the weblock is right on top of the cliff then you want to pull up and back to tighten. Does that make sense. See our rigging example playlist.
I'm curious why you set the frost knot so that the load strand is 3rd from the middle, wouldn't the radius and therefore the strength be the greatest if it was all the way on the outside of the bend of the knot? Is it done to protect the load strand from abrasion?
Because someone did insignificant testing and because it was the only testing done it became doctrine haha. I have tested almost 50 frost knots now and it basically doesnt matter how you do it. All the different ways range so much that they overlap each other. Padding it is ideal more than how you tie it.
Quick question
When deregging, how do you untie the double fisherman's knots you used at your first anchor?
Magic
"Technically you can do anything once, but you could die"
That is so true! You can even drink lava!
But just once...
But you can!!!!
In the rare event that a anchor or shackle fails is there any danger of it flying of and hitting someone
rachets are the most common thing to fail and come flying at people. But tricklining has much higher forces. But if stuff fails, things do fly!... or fall :)
I know it's only an example, but the anchor on that tree is not redundant. If the rope gets cut on one strand, everything goes.
That is true... and I just did a highline around a tree last weekend and I used a 2nd rope because of this. I plan on making a 4th video for this "trilogy" to include all the feedback like what you just said here. A better example I could have done is taken the single rope I have and make two independent pieces out of it... eg: two baskets with figure 8s on the end with same rope.
Or same as usual tie a BFK in it :)
Another option for making redundancy on tree is making another loop around tree with leftover webbing. Sure if u use sewn loops u don't have it but you can also make a knot and take some for this purpose.
Živa Uršič true. If i had no other options i could turn this highline around and tension on the tree using the tail as a backup wrap around.
Hi ryan, would a frost knott retain more strength as an 8 rather than an simple overhand?
I don't think so. It doesn't really change the bend radius
Where do you buy that gear at
What would you suggest for webbing for a starting set up?
We have a chart link in 1st video of this gear series showing pros and cons of each one
So much rigging. So many links in the system. Just look at it!
At 15:45, if the node (half clove hitch) is under tension, then, equalization is a myth… Therefore, you should not hang it here !
It would never see the whole load since the weblock is still doing something. And if it did the most force a line sees is 6kn and in bolt buster we have learned no bolt breaks below 18 worse case unless there is some serious corrosion you cant see.
What about the backup line? Isn’t that also another $300
is it just the one line doubled?
A cleaner illustration would be nice. Hard to tell what's going on with all the leaves and such on the bush
how do you know when to put your line lock facing up or down?
Seems the lock is upside down because of the secondary line and primary line are coming out of either sides
That way the primary can be locked off at the bolts and the secondary line can be locked off that the master point. Just an observation I'm not a highliner
That's called a purcell prusik
i use soft shackle ALLLLL the time EVERY time on the sewn loop of my soft release ALL the time So u can do it more than 'Maybe one time" but yeah, it's no good i guess....
chris fox i already dance along the border of troll-land... i think saying that we can use it for that would get me slaughtered haha. I got slaughtered for using a 8mm rope around a tree! Hard to guess what will set some people off haha
i used to use em on the non loop side of soft release not cause i'm dumb but cause i figured with all those wraps sliding past one another the tension was getting divided by a lot of little friction instances.... u know what i'm saying? i never noticed any evidence of wear during all my time doing it until enough people gave me shit that i stopped and then anyway i got a purelock and didn't need a connector there but yeah man i can see that the trolls r on u whatever they are babies fuckem
chris fox hahaha. I dont pad my soft shackles and other than fading... they are good as new. How many times do you estimate you soft released with soft shackle on "wrong" side? And you had almost no abrasion issues?
yes no padding for me either i probably rigged all soft shackles soft release style iin the park a bit over 100 ' with anchors like 7 ' high w feather like 40 times with no bad scene on the abrasion whatsoever i feel like i could have gone on indefinately if not for people telling me to stop.
chris fox sold! Im going to start doing this. Eventually here i will be doing abrasion test on dyneema because i get SOOOO many questions about rope on rope is bad so why put soft shackles on master points. Im like... "do you tie your leash directly into your harness? Thats what i thought" hahaha. I will do some soft release examples now with soft shackles with some soft webbing and analyze it with "soft"ware ;). Highlining shouldnt be "hard" :)
does a pineapple hat mean your a swinger?
No lie i really just want to string a rope between two trees under a normal slackline except up high. Will there be just way too much stretch in the rope or why is that probably a really fucking stupid idea? A climbing rope that is
@@jamapell please please dont use ratchets for midlines or highlines. Its dangerous. Just get a weblock and slackline webbing that isnt from a no name china company and make sure it has sewn loop for static side. You can use static rope for backup to answer original question. Watch our "how not to rig midline" episode
@@HowNOT2 will do, thanks for the replies ryan!
the line is twisted..