Belgium Has The Oddest, Most Recently Changed Borders In The World
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Theres Norway im gonna order that
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Napoléon Bonaparte Kenya try to think of more, I Belize I can.
If you illegally park in both countries at the same time, you could get 2 tickets
Wow, surprising
Bram06 Or if you kill somebody exactly on the border, would you go to two prisons at the same time?
There has actually been a murder where someone was killed in one country, but then fell dead in the other
Do an "all the borders of Australia" video. Lots of oddities to be discussed
EPMTUNESツ water.
I personally prefer a video on "all the borders of the principality of Sealand"
And the borders of Iceland
EEZ are very important guys
Pixie Panda Plush it was new Zealand empire. not borders
A bit of a correction, North Brabant and Limburg in the Netherlands are majority catholic. Its mostly when you get north of the major rivers (Meuse and Rhine) that you see majority protestant. The two aforementioned provinces stayed in the Netherlands because they were under control by the Dutch government during the secession.
Azivegu I wanted to say the exact same thing
Also the separation of Limburg and the division of Luxemburg is a bit more complex than that... Maastricht technically was an enclave that remained loyal to the Dutch king, where large parts of what is now Dutch Limburg fought for separation from Holland with the rest of Belgium and in the end some concessions had to be made. The situation stabilized more or less around 1839, and was only more or less finalized after the 1866-1870 German situation (both Limburg and Luxemburg have German links).
Nico Declerck Until they abolished the draft Limburg still had the highest draft evasion of any other province
"Oh I'm in Belgium, oh I'm in the Netherlands" 😂😂😂
Yep I totally do that. I live in Noord-Brabant and I come there a few times a year for my and my siblings' birthdays, there's a restaurant that we really like.
theres a house where the border goed through the front door, or at least there was since to avoid double taxes the owner moved the door
30:20 Belgian colonialism is one of the first things people talk about when talking about colonialism
It wasn't even really "Belgium", it was just our king at the time Leopold II that just happened to be extremely greedy for rubber. Wich was easy to find in the congo. The rest of the country at the time din't even know what we were using it for.
@@genialdragon4843 Yeah, I did a unit on Leopold II in modern history class, and he straight up lied to everyone in the 1884 Berlin conference, claiming that he was going to civilise the natives and establish free trade when he really just wanted the rubber and ivory. Nobody knew about the atrocities happening in the "Congo Free State" because of how remote the Congo is, in fact it wasn't until a shipping clerk noticed the imports were mostly ammo and guns and the exports were rubber and ivory that suspicion was raised.
I've never heard anything about it
When mentioning the Belgian colonial empire, don't forget about the Belgian Concession of Tianjin in China (where belgium in fact did great things like building Trams and running water infrastructure), and the governing of the leprans colony in Molokai, Hawaii (controlled by Monk Damian's mission).
How about Congo ?
Yay! Belgium! I’ve been to Brussels, Bruges, Waterloo, and Zeeland (NL.)
I agree that Brussels isn’t the best part of Belgium, however it’s definitely worth a visit just to see the Grand Place!
However, Bruges is one of my favourite cities in the world. It’s so beautiful, especially at night. (Also, you pronounced it wrong in the video.)
Another great video, Toycat!
P.S: Second Channel, DO CARE?! Hurray!
I live in Germany, working in Aachen and I have many collegues from Belgium, who are speaking German. It is easy to go from Aachen to the Netherlands or Belgium. They got so many beautiful cities! *_*
The reason they didn't speak French in Lille is that it is actually in French Flanders, the Dutch speaking part of France. You must have noticed bilingual signs Lille / Rijsel, the latter being the Flemish name. I'm actually surprised they didn't speak French since France is neglecting their Dutch connection and doing away with language education, but I guess actual people are more stubborn than their government ;) It would be interesting to know the history on France having a Dutch speaking community, I only know they have but not why. Maybe you can do an item on it or something.
We speak French in Lille and you'll have a very hard time finding anyone speaking even a word of Dutch and the city actually has likely never done so. The vast majority of people in Lille even ignores that the city is called Rijsel in Dutch and you can hear stories about people being lost 30km away from the city because they did not understand the roadsigns saying Rijsel. Since 20 years ago, Flemish Region standardized the use of Rijsel (Lille) on their signs in order to prevent this (tough luck if you're Belgian, you have to know your city names in Dutch or stfu).
On the other hand, there IS a historically Dutch speaking region in France, which is just north of Lille, where they used to speak fluently some kind of West Vlaams. This is roughly between Bailleul and Dunkirk. West Vlaams used to be the most spoken language there, but it dropped tremendously in the 50s' and its use is barely noticeable since the 60s'. You could still find some speakers if you're lucky in some remote communities in that region.
Ive studied in Lille , i've heard more people speak Arab than Flemish
People don't speak Dutch in Lille at all. Neither do they in all of French Flanders. Only some people that are part of the old generation might speak it, but it is very rare. The only time he could have seen signs with "Rijsel" written on them is if he took the Eurostar to Brussels and then a bus to Lille, passing through Brussels and Flanders.
Wait ,I live in Lille and i've never heard someone speaking dutch
So I found some numbers ,there were 177k people speaking dutch in 1830 in the French Flanders and by 1999 ,there were 60k
Spa is extremely famous for having a spa you silly noodle! In fact *the term spa is derrived from Spa.* The more you know I guess xD
Fun fact about Flanders
Antwerpen, Belgium is the biggest fully dutch speaking city outside of the Netherlands
Brilliant vid! Love the long videos
If you pause at 23:22, you can see an odd bug in Germany, east of Münster
Damn, I spent l two minutes looking for it before the penny dropped.
the Belgium/Netherlands border isn´t really based on religious differences, the southern dutch provinces of Limbourg and North Brabant are catholic, just like Belgium. the divide happens on the river Rhine. In general, people north of the Rhine are Protestant (reformed) while people south of the Rhine are Catholic.
The division of Belgium and the Netherlands was sorted by the loyalty of the armed forces in the area. Maastricht stayed in the Netherlands, but the rest of Limburg joined Belgium. Later on Belgium was given part of Luxemburg (there are two Luxemburgs) but had to give the eastern part of Limburg back to the Netherlands. This made the connection of the city of Maastricht and the rest of the Netherlands possible.
@@Simonb1977 No, the borders are most of what they were before the country was united by force. There are exceptions, but Belgium is mostly the Southern (Spanish, Austrian) Netherlands and the NL are the Dutch Republic.
Fun fact, the border around the city of Maastricht on the left bank of the river Meuse is drawn a canonshot (at that time) away from the Maastricht citywalls.
22:00 yes they do get on very well because the king of Belgium and the duke of Luxembourg are cousins
Technically all European monarchs are cousins and related.
Belgium and the Netherlands are basically brothers,
They share everything.
Why they don't share their coffeeshops with us :(
Just imagine: Elections, and people are like "so who you gonna vote for" "i'm not, i live in the belgian part of town, we have the next election next year"
Also: such a small country, but a really long video. Could've travelle with that beach tram from end to end in that time. xD
I live in belgium and believe me learning politics is a nightmare.
Everyone has different elections for so many different parts in the system.
We are actually known for our over-the-top complicated but effective system.
"As you can see, perfectly straight. Look how straight and curvy and smooth that border is."
....right
I am Belgian and Belgium could not be more nationalistic at the moment. Belgian flags everywhere, everyone celebrating our third place finish at the world cup.
Very true, the separation will never happen.
Jephté Ntungila Belgium⚽️ possibly was worthy of 2nd place, not 3rd place . .If Belgium had played Croatia, not France, in the semi-finals they could’ve gotten through to the Final 😯😬 Maybe even *won* it in that event.
But: they can definitely be proud of what was achieved.
meh, elections in 10 months from now, politicians have all the time they need to apply their usual 'divide et impera' tactics
Jephté Ntungila Belgium was better than France. They could have been World Cup Champions!
Adam Stwart, everything "Belgian" is French. The whole Belgian identity is French even though 60% of the population is Flemish. The Flemish are not Belgians however. We're just enslaved by the label and pay mountains of taxes to support the French speaking socialists (which is synonymous to people on unemployment benefits that refuse to work).
The Dutch-Belgian border isn't based on religion. The southern regions of the Netherlands are, just like Belgium, traditionally Catholic and have mainly become Catholic due to the Twelve Year's Truce (1609-1621) when most Protestants travelled northwards and both the Spaniards and the Dutch revolutionaries got a grip on the regions they possessed. The religious boundary is present along the Dutch river delta (Meuse and Rhine).
Saying Belgium seceded from the Netherlands because of a difference in religion is far-fetched. Even after Belgium split from the Netherlands, the Netherlands still had a population that was around 40% Catholic. The Dutch king was Protestant and hadabsolute control, which he used to intermingle with Catholic church affairs in the south (trying to nationalize it), angering religious leaders. Belgian Catholics weren't happy about it, neither were they used to it (like Dutch Catholics). However, Catholic leaders weren't the only reason. The revolt was also caused due to the fact that the south contained a great number of liberals, most of whom opposed the absolute rule of a northern king and thought independence was the easiest way to create a state with their ideals. They allied with the Catholics, promising they would leave church affairs to the church. Aside of these liberals, the Belgian elites (from bourgeoisie to nobility) were also an important factor. They were mainly angry due to a growing dominance of the Dutch language (due to Dutchification reforms) and it solely becoming used in parliament, court and administration. French was the language of these elites due to its high historical status, whereas standard Dutch was uncommon, even in Flanders. The commoners of the current region of Flanders and Brussels spoke Dutch dialects, but they weren't the ones with power, influence and strong opinions about "the bigger picture". Most of these commoners didn't even master a form of standard Dutch.
Another factor was France. Belgium was ceded to the Netherlands to create a strong buffer state and weaken France's dominant position in Western Europe. France sought to create division in the United Netherlands and used the (structural) differences between the north and the south to do so (they actually sent people to cause uproar). However, rather than creating an independent Belgium, they tried to use the division to weaken the Netherlands, strenghten their own position and gain more territory (as is visible in their Talleyrand Plan). During the Belgian Revolt, which was initially starting to fail, France eventually sent their own armies and forced the Dutch northwards.
Well, actually the city of Spa has a famous spa :) And is the origin for the word spa.
I'am from the netherlands, North brabant and i hope the east of belgium and the east of north brabant will be reunited and back to the Het hertogdom brabant.
The following week you uploaded this video (I'm watching it for the first time right now) I travelled to Germany and stayed in a hotel very close to the Belgium border. I went to Aachen and to Liège in two different days, I had to cross the thin border six times, I think, on each journey by the 258 road and it was so funny watching it on Google Maps as there is no way to know where the borders were without the phone (at least from inside the car). I'm glad to know the reasons of that weird borders.
I thought it might have done something stupid to mark their podium finish at the world cup
Man I really enjoy this channel. I would watch a 2 hour video from you 👍
I took a break from watching anime for this video, keep it up :)
TimGaming88 lol yeah, i am a bit of an anime weeb
Belgium is Serbia
credise neatherlands is serbia
Serbia is Norway
Serbia is belgian
Knokke Heist... Not "Nokke"... The 'K' is not silent 😂
Need to correct you on the Luxembourgish-border issue, in the treaty of London 1838-39 Luxembourg had to give up lands to Germany, France and Belgium in order to gain independancy. (because of the belgian revolutionaries). Belgium got the bigger cut of the cake and Luxembourg stood unified with the Netherlands. (Cause Monarchy)
During the french occupations the luxembourgish dialects in the belgian region went extinct. You can still find some people that live very close to the border speaking it.
P.S. Do not call the beauty that is the luxembourgish language a german dialect, filthy anglo RTTT TZEEE
But on an honest note, it's usually germans claiming it to be and not understanding how the entire language-dialect continuum seems to work. I am often confused as a dutchmen by germans, so if you're ever interested in the geo-political conflicts from a native here. Hmu
Some things I’d like to point out:
-Limburg doesnt have an own dialect. In fact, every village has a different dialect. I personally speak the Maastricht dialect (Mestreechs), which is very different from any other Limburgian dialect. Most other villages have very similar dialects (most outsiders wouldn’t often notice any difference). But most villagers would be offended by someone simply saying they simply speak ‘Limburgian’, and people from Maastricht are usually very proud of their own city and dialect as well.
-A lot of people are definitely patriotic in the area I grew up in, and even go as far as despising the Belgians, on one side of the border, and vice versa. In primary school, I actually got picked on by some kids, simply because I was Dutch. The feeling of ‘one big Benelux’ really doesn’t exist, and most people haven’t even let it cross their minds.
Lastly, I would like to say I’m very impressed with your knowledge on this area, and growing up partly on one side of the border, and partly on the other, a lot of these things were new, even to me. I cross the different borders incredibly often, even by boat, and even to us it’s still something special. Great video!
Greetings from Meerssen, to be precise!
Edit: P.S. - I hate Brussels as well, and in Belgium, love Antwerp and Bruges. Liège is interesting, but is very poor in most parts, and often just an ugly city that looks like it’s stuck in 1901, right after the IR. Maastricht, (and I might be a bit biased) is beautiful, not too big, the people are friendly and the food, drinks and overall ‘vibe’ is very pleasant and relaxed. The eastern part of the ‘South-Limburg’ - (Parkstad) is appalling to me. Unkind and closed people, and mostly industrial and cold cities. The sightseeing near the hills can be good though ;).
Zuid-Limburg is also a great place for cycling in the countryside because there are actual hills. There are a lot of old towns like Gulpen, Noorbeek, Epen, Mechelen, Vijlen, Lemiers, Eys, Slenaken and a lot more. All those towns also have a name in 'Limburgish'. For example Slenaken = Sjlennich, Epen = Iëepe and Lemiers = Lemiësj. If you are in Limburg it is really worth it to see these villages (after you have seen Maastricht ofcourse).
Greeting from Gulpen, Limburg
Nope, you're not biased. I was in Eindhoven last weekend. The people in the southern part of the Netherlands are so lovely. The cities are alive, safe and clean. The infrastructure is great, it's built by professionals and the nature around it is well kept. Belgium is a third world country compared to it. You see it immediately when you cross the border. And Liège, Charleroi and Brussels are the shithole kings. Been to Liège once and immediately got assaulted by a group of Morrocans. And to this day I still wonder why they did it. I didn't even say anything. They didn't take my wallet, they just threatened me in French or Arabic (or a mix of both), pushed me on the ground, kicked me a dozen times and walked away laughing.
Then again, I've been assaulted twice by 2 groups of Turks aswell in Flanders, again without speaking a word, so it might not just be a Liège problem. We have cultural enrichment in many places.
Uncle Ruckus great to hear you enjoyed! I personally love the south of the Netherlands and would not want to move any time soon. However, the problem with Moroccan and Turkish youth is pretty much everywhere in the area.
Around the Randstad (the big cities of the Netherlands, from Amsterdam to Utrecht more or less), the trouble caused by them is way worse. It’s quite bad in Germany as well, who have a huge problem going on with immigrants/refugees anyway, and it’s quite bad in Belgium as well. Near Limburg (Dutch and Belgian parts) it’s on a much lower scale, but I have to agree Liège and Brussels are the worst by far.
It’s as if these boys have no social boundaries. But to be fair, it’s also logical, though. Their parents often treat them as if everything they do is fine, and don’t check on what they’re doing, let alone punish them. At home, they’re higher in rank than their mother and possible (older) sisters. They simply learn to do what they want. Moroccans are generally a bit worse than Turks, though.
This may seem very racist/generalising, but there is a reason one issue parties like PVV (Netherlands) and Vlaams Blok (Flanders) are huge here, when all they talk about is the issue with Muslim youths causing nuisance. I personally do not vote for them, though.
Liège is bad. Whenever I’m there I feel like the nuisance caused by the Muslim youth is so bad, that the people of Liège just get depressed by them. Might have nothing to do with eachother, but I just feel this really negative vibe among the locals when I’m there. Could just be that it’s not the most pretty city, visiually speaking, either.
May I ask where you are from and why you were visiting?
I'm from Flanders myself :p
It's just that my experiences in Charleroi and Liège were bad. And I'm also very alarmed when visitting Brussels. The Ardennes (Luxembourg and parts of province Liège are beautiful and peaceful though, friendly people too, Brabant Wallon is also fine).
Edit: ohhh you probably mean Eindhoven! I was there on a camping and kayak trip and did a city trip in the evening while we were there (and grocery shopping in the mornings).
Uncle Ruckus gotta love the ardennes, many great memories there!
Really love these border videos!
In Belgium there are 3 official languages: the dutch spoke by the Flemish in Flanders, the french spoke by the Wallons in Wallonia and a german dialect spoke by some small german communities in the eastern part of the country!
Malmedy: research it!
19:40 The river on the right has a bend that looks like a unicorn.
The reason why a lot of people want flanders to be a seperate country is the bscly the same reason why brexit got the majority at the referendum... misinformation, misinformation and misiformatio
You didn't explain the main reason why Limburg was devided between Belgium and the Netherlands. In the peace treaty that confirmed Belgium's independence Belgium was awarded a part of Luxemburg but Luxemburg was a part of the German confederation and Prussia wanted compensation. So they decided to take a part of the province of Limburg (BTW the entire province was suposed to be part of belgium) and make it a grand duchy (or some sh*t like that) that would be in a personal union with the Netherlands and a part of the German confederation. Later when Peussia disolved the confederation Limburg was anexed by the Netherlands.
Can you do a video on countries that are not recognized by the UN or only partially. IE Kosovo, Transinistria etc and why they also form. It would be interesting imho
3:45 They should do a Zeeland Lite and maybe a Cherry Zeeland
Thanks for the advice about Brugge. Any city where the main attraction is a statue of a baby pissing sounds like a bad place to visit.
Really? Sounds like it might be an interesting story but I'm too scared to search for this in Google.
savvageorge That's Brussels, Brugge is a beautiful city. The only nice places in Brussels are the old townsquare, the Atomium and some random goodlooking streets. Brugge and Ghent are definitely worth a visit, Brussels not.
True
I agree, Brussels wasn't that interesting with the exception of the beer stores with a hefty tourist premium. I much preferred my stay in Ghent and recommend a day trip to Brugge.
Namur,Dinant,durbuy are very awesome too
in oklahoma, you hear panhandle more than you should
In 16th century the Benelux was part of the Spanish crown. The region was mostly protestant and revolted when the Spanish started hunting them down, this revolution is known as the 80 years war. The Seperatists could only conquer what is today the Netherlands and Belgium was kept catholic by the Spanish Austrians and French until it came into the United Kingdom of the Netherlands in 1815.
Luxembourg is also a great city to visit as it sits on top of a mountain. If you have the chance to fly into the airport make sure you get a window seat as the views are fantastic. I did think it was weird that horse meat was readily available in a lot of the finer restaurants.
in the netherland you have also provinces that are catholic, 1.limburg 2.n-braband
ibx2cat: "Belgium Has The Oddest, Most Recently Changed Borders In The World"
India/Bangladesh enclaves: "Are we a joke to you?"
Toycat I know this is second channel and don't care but we NEED a "the world and stuff" shirt
Mate, did you endorse Charleroi as a nice place? Did you actually go there? :D They have tours to show how decayed the place is, look it up.
Ya, Charleroi is a dirty industrial city, lol. They do have the Marsupilami statue though.
Commenting only to boost your engagement stats.
I came here from watching you rant about the fact that you hate gravel on the toycat channel. I love both videos and channels! :)
(so far)
Fun geography facts I never thought I’d -want- need to know.
I used to live in Belgium and this pretty much sums it up
Actually the houses in Baarle with front doors in both countries have two adresses, one for each country
In Belgium, the largest Flemish party is usually the largest national party as well, since most, if not all parties are either French or Walloon. And the flemish population is a bit bigger than the Walloon, so only when Flanders is really divided and at the same time there is one party being very popular in Wallonia, the Walloon party can be the biggest of Belgium. This system is one of the reasons national governments are difficult to form, because they need the support of so many parties, basically 2 from every political ideology represented in the government; 2 liberal parties, 2 social democrat, 2 christian etc.
Ah, you see? I knew you cared.
It's been 2.5 years and Google Maps still hasn't updated the border
They changed the map near maastricht because the river maas used to flow differently, just so you know :) I think it often happens that the flow of a river changes naturally or (as is often the case with the Dutch constant battle against flooding) the flow of the river is changed by humans. Often a river is used as a border so when the river changes, the border should as well :)
"Why would you chop a hand?"" -- have you heard of El Bronco?
Great vid btw
Jungholz in Austria must be something for you to have a look at. It is (almost) an exclave, connected to main Austria in one single point but only accessible from Germany.
2021: old border still there
You forget about the important port of Antwerp that requires you to go through Zeeland (Netherlands) to reach. :P
Also the United Kingdom of the Netherlands didn't really work because of the languages (amongst other reasons), so a united Benelux as one country is unlikely to happen. It's more likely for Walonia to hook up with Luxemburg (because they have a very close cooperation that even extends into Germany) and Flanders with the Netherlands. But because neither Walonia nor Flanders want to give up Brussels, they stick with each other.
Only if Brussels is willing to be the independent capital of the EU, then Belgium can fix all the silly stuff going on.
if the line goes throught the front door, the house has two adresses.
+ibx2cat, the first august the Franco-spanish's border will change again : Pheasant Island
it's the next changement
36:15 - Oh my goodness, this a huge moment in the history of mankind!
Ever seen "Bye Bye Belgium"? That was a TV "happening" where Belgian TV - both the French and Dutch stations - unilateraly declared Belgium split in two. Belgian TV was in sooo much trouble for that - although the people themselves thought it was "Actually Pretty Funny"!
I live about 20km from the belgium border, i live in the netherlands
Ik ook
WW1 and WW2: Germans crossed over Belgium real quick.
After: Let's give them railway so we can keep the tradition alive
a Flemish person here. the NVA doesn't actually want to leave Belgium.
I am from Belgium, and it is interesting how the country is divided and many (including me) want it to split. But when the world cup is happening, a large part of my fellow countrymen suddenly become patriotic
Also, fun fact: I am currently camping 500m away from the French border :)
I am from Belgium, and many (including me) DO NOT want it to split.
Not only LImburg, but also Brabant is mainly catholic. If I remembered my history lessons correctly the border is more based on the amount of time the Spaniards ruled the Netherlands. In the north they were kicked out in the 16th century. The northern republic of the 7 provinces, was independent until 1795 de facto and 1810 officially when the French occupied the Netherlands. In the same period the Spanish and later the Austrians still ruled current Belgium.
This was a really interesting and entertaining video!
well, it wasn't really Germany's fault for doing those bad things in ww1 Serbia assassinated Austria's heir to the throne and Germany was allied to Austria. So it was kinda Serbia's fault for causing all of those bad things.
Yeah the big problem with our coalition forming is that only people in Flanders can vote for Flemmish parties for the fedederal government and same thing in Wallonia. Meaning a party can only can get votes from only 50% of the country what leads to 2 parties being big in their region but detesting each other. What lead to NVA and PS not getting a coaltion togheter when they were the 2 most voted parties.
(Very) small exceptions: NVA and VB presenting candidates in Wallonia, just for the purpose of getting a little more money allowance (based on number of votes) when seating in Parliament. Walloons being naturally tolerant did not object. But see the big hullabaloo when DéFi presents candidates in non-facility Flemish communes...
The only other workaround: make a cross-region alliance, such as Ecolo + Groen, or PTB + PvdA. Seemingly the only parties finding that there are more urgent and important things than language and territory.
Nice video !
Actually the border between The Netherlands and what is now Belgium
states from the end of the 16hundreds
when the Netherlands was founded as
the first republic in Europe.
the southern netherlands (now Belgium) stayed with Spain.
The border has been formed at the moment of the first peace-treaty .
Hence the loopings made by the Spaniards as a military tactic to close in the parts that weren't concoured yet.
B.t.w. even the dialects in Baarle-Nassau and Baarle-Hertog differs a bit , from one Dutch nabour
to the next Belgian nabour.
Has to do whith schooling and education which differs in law and mentality.
Besides that , apart from being one (new) kingdom after Napoleon for only
about 15 years, the rejoining didn't work so
the old borders were taken up again
as they always have been (mostly)
from the beginning of the separation
Into the Dutch republic and the southern provinces , staying with Spain.
All of the historic Netherlands ,included French Flanders
spoke Old-Dutch (very close to Old-English) in the early middle-ages.
French came in later.
Belgian Dutch (Flemmish) has a spanish and French (latin)accent to it.
And that ofcourse because of the long separation.......
Love your channel,
seen them all.
Sorry, I meant : since the end of the 15hundreds (so 16th century)
Can you make a video about luxembourg?
can you look in to the state borders of Australia, there are a few interesting ones that have weird backstories and the one territory that used to exist but the queen said no basically
6:46 OMG THATS MY FRIEND'S HOUSE!!!
What’s also crazy is how many of the towns have different names in neighbouring European languages - Some of them are weirdly different. Such as:-
Mons = Bergen
Antwerpen = Anvers = Antwerp
Tournai = Doornik
Kortrijk = Courtrai
Liège = Luik = Lüttich
_(and just across the border in France)_
Lille = Rijsel
p.s. I thought that your pronunciation of French names would be a bit . .better😭😭🤗
Well yes of course the words *Mons* and *Bergen* both derive from a mount or hill, in each respective language. And, this leads to a funny situation in Brussels where ‘Chaussée de Mons’/‘Bergensesteenweg’ is actually the *same* road . .but the two names bear no similarity to eachother at all.
At least in the case of _e.g._ ‘Porte de Namur’/‘Naamsepoort’ the name of the town has some similarity across the two languages, lol.
Douvres B Mundburg = Minas Tirith
They are neighbouring languages in geography, but not in origin. Latin and Germanic languages are quite different, and Belgium just happens to sit on one place where they meet... like Switzerland (or Canada :-) - yes, English is technically Germanic though it's harder to see now).
I absolutely had no idea whatsoever, way beyond my imagination and understanding, how complex the Dutch/Belgium relationship was and is. Drag Luxembourg into the conversation and I will throw in the surrender white flag.
Belgium Trappist Beer some of the best Beer in the World.
Not ONE of the best beer in the world - Trappist is an appellation covering a dozen different (and VERY different) beers, most of them Belgian (but there are a couple outside the country.
Every time I hear Belgium and border in the same sentence I get a bad sinking feeling
Why?
Just go to a map and look at the borders, like close up. Its pretty bad.
Ah
I thought you meant because of the country itself, so I was wondering why you disliked it.
Nah, just borders
This is the second time I’ve heard that Brussels is a bad city to go to.
Make it three, I don't like it either.
I live in Belgium, and this video was proper made!
Let's just hope Belgium or the Netherlands never want to leave the EU. Those cities would be complicated as fuck.
I just love maps, they can tell us so much about history.
As can flags 😊
Pretty sure the name of a panhandle comes from a pan's handle, not the whole pan.
belgium also had a chinese colony
Well, the European enclaves in China ("concessions") were not really seen as colonies. The idea was not really to plant Belgians or Frenchmen, or Germans, or whichever population in there (and take over land from the natives). It was more a question of administering and controlling some areas (mostly ports) in order to force China to open up its trade. There were Western administrators and businessmen going and living there, but no real colonists. I don't say it was a good thing, or even that it was better than "real" colonialism like in Congo - I just say it was not the same idea, and concessions can hardly be described as colonies. By contrast, even though they also had "concessions" e.g. in Shanghai, the Japanese in parallel also occupied and colonized large parts of China.
It's actually not Belgium who annexed "parts of Luxembourg". Luxembourg supported the Belgian Revolution but Luxembourg-City and environment under Prussian control which is now G-D-Luxembourg (in Belgium, we call the province Luxembourg and the country Great-Duchy-Luxembourg) who kept loyal to the Netherlands. Same for Limburg... Actually whole Limburg joined Belgium in 1830, only the cities Maastricht and Mook kept loyal but in 1839 in the Treaty of 14 Articles, where the Netherlands finaly recognized Belgium but have to give a large part of Limburg back.
The map with all these small bits actually is not as accurate because there are a lot more smaller bits, over a 100 i believe. It's nuts. Good thing we all use the Euro :P
Even though there is a bit of Belgium in the Netherlands, you can still see how they build very differently, houses look different, streets look different, signs look different, different gas station brands, all of that. But you can just drive and do whatever there. It all indeed doesn't matter. it would be way too annoying to enforce anyway.
It's a rather small village, lots of restaurants etc, and it's always busy there, indeed, way more tourism than you'd expect.
Also a great beer bar that kind of looks like a boring wooden gate next to a home, but it runs really deep, several in and outdoor locations, great atmosphere, old commercial beer signs, lots of great beers etc.
You forgot to mention the Belgian concessions in Tianjin
U talked about Belgian Limburg and Dutch Limburg, but did you know about north Brabant, Flemish Brabant and Walloon Brabant, that together with the province of Antwerp used to be Brabant
Yes the Duchy of Brabant. One of the dynasties was simultaneously dukes of Brabant, and dukes of... Limburg !
Ow sh*t waddup! My home country in the spotlight!
That's always a fun conversation to start with your neighbor, "Look, about our border... We need to talk..." , but sometimes you gotta, like when a random chunk of farmer's field belongs to a different country. 😕 Europe is so weird...
A few mistakes in this video.
In your Belgian languages map, you forgot the Hainaut exclave along the Lys, near Comines.
Now, a Big mistake. The Belgian - Dutch border does not come from the religion. Except for the Limburg, it comes from the independence from the United Provinces from Spain. The province of Noord Brabant became independent from Spain then but it has always kept its catholic majority. So, it's a historical border, not a religious border.
Netherlands kept Maastricht and the Limburg cos the Dutch soldiers in the Maastricht citadel resisted to the Belgian insurgents.
Belgium didn't take the biggest part of the Luxembourg, the story is different. In 1830, southern Netherlands was authorized to become independent but they had to leave the German speaking part of Luxembourg to do it.
The German speaking part of Belgium was in fact linked to Belgian territories until 1815, then it became Prussian. So, in a way, it went back in 1919. A part of the territory was having a French speaking majority like Malmedy.
Please remember German V is pronounced F, it is awful to hear "VennBahn".
You showed the French border at Risquons Tout, in this part, this is French speaking Belgium, if you want to cross the border and find Dutch speakers, you have to go to Menin (Menen).
You know when you cross the border from the street signs that are different but you have to look carefully when you are in small streets w/o border signs.
@R R Alleen maar wanneer Voeren terug Waals.
South Limburg with Maastricht was already since the 17th century a part of the Dutch Republic. Therefore it isn't very surprising that at least Maastricht and South Limburg stayed within the Netherlands after the Belgian revolution.
I love that you are so considered to you'r American viewers and tell them that there were 2 world wars ;-)
By the way, it could be interesting listen to you talking about the diffrent maps, and where they don't agree. Obvilius sugestion would be the Urain/rusian island. But there must be a lot of diffrent places where maps don't agree, like the Danish/Canadian Island or other places.
Thx for a great video
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toycat now: give me money and i will use it for myself not using it to improve these videos whatsoever
Fun fact, BENELUX was also known at one point as the United Provinces and they belonged to Spain.
Except for the Principality of Liege, which loosely belonged to the German Empire at the time - and extended all along the Meuse river, up from north Limburg and down to what is now the French border in the Ardenne, so quite larger than the current Liege province. It actually cut the Spanish (later Austrian) Provinces in two parts, and only disappeared when the Liege people revolted in 1789, and the whole country was then occupied by the French in 1793.
But you're right to say that (besides such exception), most of current Benelux already existed before - so much for Flemish nationalists claiming that Belgium is an artificial country, while most of its territory already made up a common structure more than 5 centuries ago, and for quite some time.
Really enjoy your second channel
You drove along my friends house in this video.
You are wrong about not having a government: As long as they have their King, they have a government, it matters not if there isn't a kabinet, there is still a government.
Wrong. Technically and constitutionally the king does not govern - he can only sign laws, etc. when backed up by an empowered minister.
Yes we got 6 gov and they all got the same power
Zeeland has a weird border with Belgium, where Belgium suddenly has a straigth piece of land into Zeeland. According to the treaty between newly formed Belgium and the Netherlands it should have been Dutch territory. But, the Netherlands was obliged to put border signals there within one year. The Netherlands did not succeed to do that on the correct place as nobody could be found to go there as there was Malaria in that region at the time. That is why Belgium got that territory and it still makes for a strange border.
welk deel doel je precies op? Bij Huijbergen?
@@GordonGekkoo Nee, ik doel op de inkeping tussen Sas van Gent en Sint Kruis.
@@ronaldderooij1774 Aj ja, dat heb ik mezelf ook weleens afgevraagd. Zat daar recent nog naar te kijken.