Biggest Geopolitical Border Problem - Northern Ireland's Border

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  • The Only Border of Ireland (and the mainland border of the UK) is one of the frictionless in the world... right now. Here's why there are issues relating to it
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Komentáře • 755

  • @rootshelldev
    @rootshelldev Před 5 lety +173

    You just open a map and can make me listen for hours. Thank you

    • @ibx2cat
      @ibx2cat  Před 5 lety +40

      Glad you like the videos as much as I like making them :)

    • @peterlyall2848
      @peterlyall2848 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ibx2cat Stop waving your God dam hands around because it's so off putting. Then I might watch your video's right through to the end. Also I might subscribe to you if you
      Stopped waving your hands about.

    • @12Rosen
      @12Rosen Před 2 lety +2

      @@peterlyall2848 who cares tho?

  • @RileysFilms
    @RileysFilms Před 5 lety +448

    I love that The Republic of Ireland is more north than Northern Ireland.

    • @Quintinohthree
      @Quintinohthree Před 5 lety +33

      I suggest we start calling it Eastern Ireland instead.

    • @ugx7td5
      @ugx7td5 Před 5 lety +4

      More of NI is north than of RIRL.

    • @Quintinohthree
      @Quintinohthree Před 5 lety +3

      All of Northern Ireland is south of some part of Ireland. Your argument also goes for calling it Eastern Ireland.

    • @air5096
      @air5096 Před 5 lety +15

      Sorta like how Virginia is more west than West Virginia
      West Virginia is also one of the places most heavily settled by the Ulster British

    • @lambhdeargh
      @lambhdeargh Před 5 lety +1

      Ulster Scots! Was it the highland or lowland Scots? After all Scotland was named after the Scotti, an Irish tribe!

  • @PowerThrash
    @PowerThrash Před 5 lety +350

    "Every solution is offensive" - not sure why but that really made me laugh, really sums up the whole shitshow

  • @vittoriaradesi1137
    @vittoriaradesi1137 Před 5 lety +85

    Then of course there's the people in NI who hold Irish citizenship and not UK citizenship under the Good Friday Agreement

    • @asanulsterman1025
      @asanulsterman1025 Před 3 lety +1

      Anyone born in the UK, including NI, is a British Citizen. In NI, that British citizen can later take Irish Citizenship and have dual-citizenship or they can renounce British Citizenship and be only Irish. And this was always the case before and after the Belfast Agreement.

    • @geroutathat
      @geroutathat Před 3 lety

      @streetmuggedbypolice But the scot people who came over to the north to lord it over the indigenous people, are probably originally Irish themselves as the scot tribe was Irish. Even if they were not memebers of the scot tribe, lets say they were picts, they were still genetic brothers of the Irish. Its not like the northern people were native americans and people from Europe came. Pretty much every scottish person should have a right to live in Ireland, and vice versa. Same as England and wales they are genetic brothers, they should be able to go back and forth forever without one side saying "you dont belong". Because Irish/Scot/Pict/Welsh/Anglo we all have a common ancestor. The Anglo/Welsh are genetic cousins of the Irish/Scot/Picts We are all indegenous to to the islands, none of us are celtic or arrive later, we just been here since people could live here.

    • @asanulsterman1025
      @asanulsterman1025 Před 3 lety

      @streetmuggedbypolice I've been trying to get a British or Irish passport for my wife for 8 years, its not as easy as you think

    • @asanulsterman1025
      @asanulsterman1025 Před 3 lety

      Nope, born in NI = British, can take Irish passport later, must renounce British citizenship to be only irish... thats the law

    • @gamermapper
      @gamermapper Před 2 lety +1

      @streetmuggedbypolice your ancestors the Celts colonised the entire Europe so you're not really indigenous to anywhere lol

  • @galamonkey
    @galamonkey Před 5 lety +79

    As an American who never hears any in depth discussion of foreign issues like this, I like hearing s regular persons opinion.

    • @ugx7td5
      @ugx7td5 Před 5 lety +3

      Its even for europeans very interesting. :)))
      Is there something similar in the us? Im German and I would like to get such insight reports about the us regions.

    • @ronaldderooij1774
      @ronaldderooij1774 Před 5 lety +7

      Unfortunately the terms "American" and "in depth discussion" is a contradiction. It must be annoying for you.

    • @ugx7td5
      @ugx7td5 Před 5 lety +8

      @@ronaldderooij1774 They landed on moon "out there". So "in depth" is clearly not their strength. ;)

    • @Jotari
      @Jotari Před 5 lety +6

      A lot of praise can actually be given to America and the Clinton administration for helping to end the troubles. They basically acted as a mediator between the two parties and convinced everyone to sit down and talk. Clinton considers it one his greatest achievement as President, but unfortunately it's buried under all those silly sex scandals. There should really be a statue of him (and his employee George J. Mitchell) in Belfast somewhere if there isn't.

    • @ugx7td5
      @ugx7td5 Před 5 lety +1

      But that is an us american problem. In EU noone would care about such things.

  • @goldenappel
    @goldenappel Před 5 lety +137

    Being from Northern Ireland I really expected this to be a trainwreck on par with every other time someone from "outside" tries to offer their opinion on our situation. But you gave a really good overview of the situation here and didn't fall into any of the traps that people usually do.
    This should be required viewing for all politicians trying to negotiate the British/EU border situation.

    • @NeeloMack
      @NeeloMack Před 3 lety +3

      To be honest I think you's should just unite with us

    • @peadarocolmain4850
      @peadarocolmain4850 Před 2 lety

      @@NeeloMack Ha! who's "us" Yung ?

    • @NeeloMack
      @NeeloMack Před 2 lety +4

      @@peadarocolmain4850 The Republic of Ireland

    • @berniflood1427
      @berniflood1427 Před 2 lety +1

      @@NeeloMack same I’m from Ireland and I think we should unite

    • @gamermapper
      @gamermapper Před 2 lety

      @@berniflood1427 with Britain

  • @poankiyu7664
    @poankiyu7664 Před 4 lety +72

    "Split into 4 provinces that don't really mean much anymore" You've clearly never met an Irish rugby fan

  • @Frank-cm2jt
    @Frank-cm2jt Před 5 lety +81

    Love how you pronounce Bus Éireann as bus Iran just imagine it’s spelt like Air-in

    • @lostcarpark
      @lostcarpark Před 4 lety +3

      A few tricky pronunciations in this video, and I think this was the only slip up.

    • @adamender9092
      @adamender9092 Před 4 lety +3

      In lenster it's pronounced erin

    • @dtkhartyroot7754
      @dtkhartyroot7754 Před 3 lety

      Clones is pronounced clone-ess that’s the only other one I see

    • @euan1953
      @euan1953 Před 3 lety

      @@adamender9092 nope.

    • @nixd0rf356
      @nixd0rf356 Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah being from Ireland I was confused at what he even said

  • @Serratus648
    @Serratus648 Před 5 lety +34

    I was born in '86 and was too young to understand the full spectrum of what was happening in North Ireland, but I can tell you that word "Belfast" was synonymous to a bomb attack to us. It was a minor shock one day in geography class when I learned that Belfast was a city :P

  • @paddydiskin3645
    @paddydiskin3645 Před 5 lety +25

    This is one of the most accurate (not 100%, in my estimation) and instructive explanations of the Ireland/UK border that I have seen or heard and is well worth viewing.

    • @ibx2cat
      @ibx2cat  Před 5 lety +8

      Thanks for the positive words. I'm always open to hear what people have to add or feel like they'd like to correct so please do let me know what you think wasn't quite 100% :)

  • @detectiveawesome3579
    @detectiveawesome3579 Před 5 lety +179

    And the 🌏 and stuff

  • @stevenhale2935
    @stevenhale2935 Před 3 lety +18

    Fun fact, my grandad was at that base in Derry when it got raided by the IRA. He slept through the whole thing lol

    • @kezV1
      @kezV1 Před rokem +1

      hun. ira should have got him. tiocfaidh ar la

  • @lizardlegend42
    @lizardlegend42 Před 5 lety +27

    Ireland was only called the Irish free state between the war of independance and becoming a republic.

    • @ibx2cat
      @ibx2cat  Před 5 lety +6

      Some call it that today though

    • @lizardlegend42
      @lizardlegend42 Před 5 lety +13

      @@ibx2cat really? I'm Irish and so this is news to me. How often do you hear it called that?

    • @pm3157
      @pm3157 Před 5 lety +3

      lizard ledgend I’ve also never heard it referred to as that. The state has only two official names, Ireland and Éire.

    • @TheIrishNationLives
      @TheIrishNationLives Před 5 lety +8

      @@ibx2cat The only people who use the term "Free State" are members of hard line Republican groups like Republican Sinn Féin who refuse to recognize the legitimacy of the state. It is sometimes used as an insult by supporters of Northern Ireland GAA teams when playing teams from the Republic. The Free State ceased to exist in 1937.

    • @michaelcostello6019
      @michaelcostello6019 Před 5 lety +5

      @@lizardlegend42 They do, it's generally a term of abuse.

  • @StarMonkies
    @StarMonkies Před 5 lety +21

    Just a quick correction, healthcare is mostly free in Ireland. There are GP cost, prescriptions costs and certain hospitals charges but in general medical care is mostly free. You dont pay for surgery or hospital treatments for example. But you may have to pay an ambulance charge or for your bed in a hospital.... unless you earn below a certain a amount of money. Then everything is free. The confusion comes from the fact that Ireland has a two tier system where private hospitals exist and they generally give you faster treatment, access to private rooms etc and a perceived better standard of care (not sure how true that is though). This of course you must pay for.
    In saying the no Irish person would disagree that the NHS is far superior to the Irish HSE and we are very jealous that we can't get or healthcare system together.

    • @johnking5174
      @johnking5174 Před 5 lety +1

      Those who have a Medical card can access free medical and hospital care. The medical card is given to people whose income falls below a certain level.

    • @HelenRoose
      @HelenRoose Před 4 lety +4

      Let's be honest here, the only country in the first world without mostly/entirely free healthcare is the "great" country I come from, America...

    • @siyacer
      @siyacer Před 2 lety +1

      @@HelenRoose yeah, instead it has high quality and speedy health care

    • @richiehoyt8487
      @richiehoyt8487 Před rokem

      ​@@siyacerUnless your insurance provider decides your illness is a money pit and they just renege on you (which they do _a lot,_ and that's assuming, of course, that you _have_ insurance in the first place.) Either that, or your consultant will do they'll do the exact opposite - because of that niggly pain in your side that you have, they'll subject you to every diagnostic test known to medical science, proven or unproven, invasive or otherwise, because "When it comes to _your_ health, why take chances? It's your right as an American, God~damn~it!!" By which, of course, they mean $$$'s! Never mind that the tests, statistically, may be liable to do you more harm than the disease they are looking for, which you most probably don't even _have!_ Or even if it turns out you _do_ have this condition, while simply keeping a 'watching brief' on it may be the best thing to do medically speaking, that isn't going to pay for the expensive suite of offices, the country club membership and the McMansion in one of your city's more fashionable neighbourhoods - much better that you undertake this regimen of medication which may have worse side effects than anything your condition is doing - or better yet, how about some _surgery?!!_

    • @siyacer
      @siyacer Před rokem

      @@richiehoyt8487 it's been a year and I now realize the american healthcare system really is a joke, lol

  • @mies1mies
    @mies1mies Před 5 lety +96

    I want to see a video where you talk about the fact that more people live in a certain place than in the country of origin

    • @viewwwwer
      @viewwwwer Před 5 lety +11

      More Irish people live in the USA than in Ireland

    • @danielimmortuos666
      @danielimmortuos666 Před 5 lety +7

      We're all living in America, America, America, America...

    • @turkoositerapsidi
      @turkoositerapsidi Před 5 lety

      Irelelandish are mostly english today.

    • @spiv
      @spiv Před 5 lety +3

      I'm of Armenian decent, and its estimated that there are 11 million Armenians in the world, and only 3 million live in Armenia. The Armenian diaspora is all over the place.

    • @turkoositerapsidi
      @turkoositerapsidi Před 5 lety

      @@spiv Do you speak armenian language? Their writing looks wery interesting.

  • @jirkavebr-czmapper8059
    @jirkavebr-czmapper8059 Před 5 lety +31

    28th of october will be 100 years from creation of Czechoslovakia. Will you please make video about Czechoslovakia or Czechia and Slovakia? You may also include other countries that were formed in 1918 from Austria-Hungary.

  • @NoiseBox1980
    @NoiseBox1980 Před 3 lety +6

    I think it's pretty stupid that nobody raised these points during the Brexit debate. This is one of the main reasons the EU was created in the first place, to avoid conflict around borders in Europe.

    • @user-ly1fk9kk9d
      @user-ly1fk9kk9d Před 2 lety +1

      UK kind or ruined itself by leaving.
      Scotland wants to leave now in order to join EU, North Ireland wants now to leave even more and Ireland, being an EU country, is also getting supported by EU. And from what I know, Wales don't want to remain either.

    • @beaglaoich4418
      @beaglaoich4418 Před 2 lety +2

      If was brought up repeatedly, but rather than argue why they weren’t true, they were put in the “project fear” bucket and dismissed

  • @aaron5809
    @aaron5809 Před 5 lety +17

    Ireland's nature is beautiful. 10/10 would recommend visit

  • @robert6106
    @robert6106 Před 4 lety +4

    To answer the question at 8:40. you are using the newer boundaries rather than the older counties, Ulster had 9 counties and N Ireland went for only 6 to prevent an Irish majority in the old Ulster out voting them. There was also a border review that was never carried out, in which the border would have been amended to put people on the correct side of the border.

  • @SilvanaDil
    @SilvanaDil Před 5 lety +76

    Yet another ex-girlfriend, Toycat?! Were they into half hour videos on one border? (Seriously, Toycat, half an hour on ONE border?!) :D

    • @SilvanaDil
      @SilvanaDil Před 5 lety +13

      Are you sure there aren't any ToyKittens running around? :-)

    • @banchnotok
      @banchnotok Před 5 lety +1

      *2cat

    • @max__pain
      @max__pain Před 5 lety +18

      He has a girl in every town, village, city-state, municipality, peninsula, isthmus etc.

    • @SilvanaDil
      @SilvanaDil Před 5 lety +18

      LOL! ToyCat goes up to every girl he sees and says: "Excuse me. May I come inside your border?"

    • @thepolarcool1
      @thepolarcool1 Před 4 lety

      @@banchnotok Nah the 2 is because this is his 2nd channel.

  • @beyond12021
    @beyond12021 Před 5 lety +21

    "The River didn't decide, it's not a sentient-being" *Pagan River Goddess *Winks** Lol your a good rambler :-D

  • @gigadonis8684
    @gigadonis8684 Před 3 lety +4

    breaks leg 1 m away from NI
    *desperately tries to crawl to NI for free health-care*
    An Irish guy "Hey can we have the ambulance, someone broke their leg"
    You: "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU..."

    • @JB-yb6ks
      @JB-yb6ks Před 3 lety

      The republic be gangster until someone gets heart disease

  • @Whelknarge
    @Whelknarge Před 3 lety +7

    It's called "Derry" because that's what it's original name is (or, rather, that's the Anglicised version of the original Gaelic name). The "London-" part was slapped on by Unionists because colonialism. I know you're trying (sort of) to be impartial, but when you tell about Irish history, if you do so simply stating that facts, it may make you sound like you're taking the side of the Irish, but that's only because the British are objectively the bad guys in this situation. It's not partisan, that's literally just how it is. You're attemptimg to sound impartial so hard that you are just straight up misrepresenting the facts.

  • @josephboyle9020
    @josephboyle9020 Před 5 lety +64

    It’s a British Border in Ireland. The Irish Border is the beach

    • @AndrewAnd
      @AndrewAnd Před 5 lety +13

      Already starting the controversy are we? haha

    • @turkoositerapsidi
      @turkoositerapsidi Před 5 lety +1

      But shouldmt most of South Ireland be part of Englands UK anyway as today most Irish are english people in hearth and soul (Englands language as their native one).

    • @bazzymcq3418
      @bazzymcq3418 Před 5 lety +7

      No, I don't know your knowledge or if your trolling but most Irish hate British culture(or perhaps just its origin) and have had many times tried to de-anglicize the culture of Ireland as we aren't too fond of it, many dislike how it was forced on us.

    • @turkoositerapsidi
      @turkoositerapsidi Před 5 lety

      @streetmuggedbypolice Sory guys I knew this woill offend you but I just want you irish to get your language back and remember you are celts not latinized germanics that the english are.
      Esperanto should be the international language so the english people wouldnt have the highground on culture and other influence on others.

    • @goldenappel
      @goldenappel Před 5 lety

      Someone's been watching Dara O Briain

  • @Jotari
    @Jotari Před 5 lety +27

    The Good Friday agreement was truly a beautiful peace treaty. If only all conflicts could be resolved with something so fair and reasonable.

    • @Jotari
      @Jotari Před 5 lety +7

      What was your alternative? Continued violence and enforcement of social division? Because that's a solution that'll only work if you can completely eradicate your opponent. The Good Friday Agreement ensures that Northern Ireland will eventually join the rest of the country when the people that actually live there desire it, which will eventually happen precisely because it is peaceful (well, assuming Brexit doesn't go and fuck up the equilibrium).

    • @Ash-hk6lh
      @Ash-hk6lh Před 5 lety +6

      @transylvanian What do you do with the Unionists who don't want to join the Republic of Ireland? Do you force them? Like you claim the British are forcing you?

    • @clairee4939
      @clairee4939 Před 5 lety +1

      @@Ash-hk6lh The GFA sets out that a referendum in NI and the Republic will decide this issue of a united Ireland. At the moment opinion in NI is drawn almost 50/50 on the issue.

    • @clairee4939
      @clairee4939 Před 5 lety +3

      @Straight White British Protestant It was the price to be paid for a problem all parties to the GFA, including the British authorities, contributed to. It largely stopped the violence. It wasn't a betrayal, it was a brave step all involved took to give ordenary people the peace they deserve.

    • @clairee4939
      @clairee4939 Před 5 lety +1

      @Straight White British Protestant I respect everyone's right to a point of view, but I would have to disagree with you there very strongly. I have no reason to doubt you when you say that you are a peace loving person but your position aligns you with some pretty dangerous people. The GFA was unanimously endorsed by the NI electorate, a great many of whom DID lose people during the Troubles..

  • @magjackee
    @magjackee Před 5 lety +24

    Bus Eireann - bus aeyren .
    Eireann is Ireland in Irish!
    Great vid btw!

    • @UTubeTulip
      @UTubeTulip Před 5 lety +3

      Maybe Bus Iran do run a Dublin to Belfast service

    • @turkoositerapsidi
      @turkoositerapsidi Před 5 lety

      @@UTubeTulip But iranians are aryans and irish ar not.

    • @chrisflanagan7564
      @chrisflanagan7564 Před 5 lety +5

      Éireann is the genitive case of Éire.
      The genitive case is used when talking about ownership or possession.
      So basically when you would use 'of' in English, or when you would use 'Irish'
      Bus Éireann: Irish Bus.
      Dáil Éireann: Irish Assembly/Assembly of Ireland.
      Poblacht na hÉireann: Republic of Ireland
      Mná na hÉireann: Women of Ireland.

    • @chrisflanagan7564
      @chrisflanagan7564 Před 5 lety +1

      oh... I was scrolling through the comments and hadn't actually heard him butcher the pronunciation. :D

  • @Jack1rules
    @Jack1rules Před 4 lety +9

    1:45 toycat narrowly escaping carb bombing

  • @oliverdouble-u8107
    @oliverdouble-u8107 Před 4 lety +16

    Toycat: **ten minutes of explaining**"And that is how it changed from a border between counties to a border between countries"
    Me: "They just added an r"

  • @DJUnionX
    @DJUnionX Před 5 lety +15

    I'd love to see a video on biggest diasporas in the world. Ex-Yugoslav diasporas could make an hour long video on their own!

  • @bignose140
    @bignose140 Před 5 lety +13

    As an Irishman that grew up on the Border (Co Louth) I found this interesting as fuk!
    Liked and subbed
    Bollox to Brexit!

  • @nixd0rf356
    @nixd0rf356 Před 2 lety +2

    I’m from Ireland and I think the teachers in our schools should play this during history class

  • @jwil4286
    @jwil4286 Před 4 lety +6

    Why didn’t they call Northern Ireland “Northeastern Ireland”? Would be more accurate

    • @jgdooley2003
      @jgdooley2003 Před 3 lety

      The original name for the Republic on official British documents relating to the partition proposals was Southern Ireland, It then became the Irish Free State in 1922 and Eire later on and then the Republic of Ireland. Northern ireland was also formed in 1922 with a separate parliament in Belfast.

    • @47eoghan47
      @47eoghan47 Před 2 lety

      Because they are greedy

  • @DeezNuts-sx9jd
    @DeezNuts-sx9jd Před 4 lety +5

    With the UK leaving the EU, and Northern Ireland supporting the EU, I have a feeling the border won't be there in 10 years

    • @hugh.g.rection5906
      @hugh.g.rection5906 Před 2 lety +1

      less than 8 years left and stronger than ever

    • @DeezNuts-sx9jd
      @DeezNuts-sx9jd Před 2 lety

      @@hugh.g.rection5906 lmao sure bud.

    • @hugh.g.rection5906
      @hugh.g.rection5906 Před 2 lety +1

      @@DeezNuts-sx9jd i bet youre still claiming "there wont be a border in 10 years" you fools have been claiming that for 100 years now lol

  • @joshuathompson7333
    @joshuathompson7333 Před 5 lety +7

    Finally a video from My Country
    Edit; OMG he just summarised my last year of History
    Also for those of you wondering I.P.P is called Irish Parliamentary Party

    • @gachaelephant6841
      @gachaelephant6841 Před 4 lety +2

      TechDude032 Oh thanks I was wondering what that stood for

  • @mikki3562
    @mikki3562 Před 5 lety +3

    A bit of information: all the territorial waters belong to the Republic. Lough Foyle is part of the Republic but they are afraid to resurrect the conflict. The territorial waters were left to Ireland after the Government of Ireland Act and the Anglo Irish Treaty. They are trying to hide this fact but it cannot be done.

  • @kindnessfirst9670
    @kindnessfirst9670 Před rokem +1

    The important thing to know about the border is that it was a new border created specifically in order to produce an artificial majority for a group that was in fact a small minority in the country. The British added and subtracted specific areas in order to arrive at an entity that would stay in the UK and enable the new artificially created unionist majority to continue ruling without needing any support or consent from the Catholic population. This resulted in the continued denial of rights to the Catholic minority which led to the "Troubles".

  • @doubtfulalf9391
    @doubtfulalf9391 Před 5 lety +15

    england has such a disconnect with NI, i watched an episode of the chase and the question came up what is the capital of NI? all contestants answered Dublin. If its the UK how come the English have no idea of the basics.

    • @ibx2cat
      @ibx2cat  Před 5 lety +15

      I (and many others) are taught in school that it's Belfast. There are people who wouldn't even know the capital of Wales or England, too

    • @mohammedraheem6288
      @mohammedraheem6288 Před 5 lety

      @@ibx2cat I can't remember being taught that in UK school, but hay maybe I just forgot. Though I did know that Belfast was the capital of NI before this video.

    • @drey8
      @drey8 Před 4 lety +1

      It's not the English that have no idea of the basics it's just those few contestants that happened to be on a gameshow. They could just be a bit thick, but nerves also play a factor.

  • @DieAlteistwiederda
    @DieAlteistwiederda Před 5 lety +3

    From what I understand the history of Ireland and Northern Ireland is even touchier than what has happened here in Germany. It's still like there is a border right in the middle of our country in some people's heads and you will get hate for simply being born on one or the other side of the country. We never had such a bloody history but damn the hate is still real.

    • @beaglaoich4418
      @beaglaoich4418 Před 2 lety

      I think the only difference between here and Germany, whether you’re speaking about German partition or the Holocaust was that most Germans can agree in hindsight that both were bad things and therefore mostly you move on with your lives and while there’s still some bad blood you don’t have your political parties based on that divide within German people. That and there is a literal border not only a mental one in Ireland and between communities in Northern Ireland and more like Germany to a lesser extent in the south

  • @LinguAdventurer
    @LinguAdventurer Před 5 lety +4

    Hey ibx2cat, I like your videos and I'd like to recommend you make a video about the national borders on the Balkans (in particular the border between Serbia and Croatia). I'm from Serbia and I'm appassionate about national borders and I'd be glad to assist you should you happen to decide to make a video about the borders on the Balkans, which are very interesting and complex and I'm sure you'd have a lot of material to talk about.

  • @crazymusicchick
    @crazymusicchick Před 4 lety +4

    different countries across the road are weird to me I live in Australia, the border is the ocean lol

    • @craigharkins4669
      @craigharkins4669 Před 2 lety +2

      It's fun to stand on one side and piss into the other. You're missing out

    • @crazymusicchick
      @crazymusicchick Před 2 lety +1

      @@craigharkins4669 haha couldn't do that any way im a female but even if i could state boarder is like 10 hours away

  • @TadeuszCantwell
    @TadeuszCantwell Před 5 lety +9

    You mentioned there is no official border on Lough Foyle, that is also the case on Carlingford Lough, where you started, which has a de facto border down the middle. This is because county borders stopped at the sea and when the Irish Free state was formed, no agreement was made on where the border goes. Which wasn't such a big deal since the Free State was a dominion of the U.K. The Foyle is more complicated since the navigation channel ships pass through, is on the Irish side, meaning official permission would be needed for the Royal Navy to enter the lough, were the border to be drawn down the middle. Therefore the U.K claims the whole lough, while Ireland claims half of it. Although when the Free State was formed they claimed the whole thing as well. When Ireland became a republic in 1937, a lack of international borders tecnically mattered but was basically ignored since Ireland had no bargaining power in a potential treaty negotiation. This basically became irrelevant when both countries joined the then EEC on the same day in 1972.
    Since the Belfast agreement, the two lough's are coverved by one of the six All-Ireland Implementation bodies that cover the "- Foyle, Carlingford and Irish Lights Commission: The management and development of Lough Foyle and Carlingford Lough and coastal lights through two separate agencies, the Loughs Agency and Lights Agency."
    Now Ireland is in a club of with 27 mates, while the U.K is striking out on its own, causing the power balance to shift. The EU, as a rules-based organisation, is a stickler for things like borders because of the common market and after almost one hundred years of letting things slide, the new nature of the border must be set down in a legally binding agreement. Although I haven't seen any mention of the border on the two loughs in the Brexit talks and I suspect will not be solved in the near future.
    On why the old county borders where kept, part of the deal around the formation of the Free State was a border commision to redraw the border, and it was presumed by the Dublin government that the border would be redrawn to put Irish/Nationalist's/Catholic's out of N.I. It turned out that the supposedly neutral person in the commission was pro-British and in the end, their report was swept under the carpet, because the Free State would gain little and loose land to N.I.

  • @nodatron1
    @nodatron1 Před 5 lety +2

    None of this would be a problem if May didn't go into a coalition with the DUP. The DUP is the entire reason there is a problem with the northern Ireland border. If the DUP wasn't in government then the UK could go back to the way they forgot Northern Ireland exists like they had do for decades.

  • @JfkJames
    @JfkJames Před 5 lety +2

    It’s not like the English ‘compromise’ on the border stopped a Civil War in Ireland . A civil war still happened in Ireland about the pro-treaty (Michael Collins) and anti-treaty (Eamon de Valera)

  • @DarkDruid7
    @DarkDruid7 Před 2 lety +1

    As an American, looking at the scenery of the island of Ireland makes me feel like I'm in a Tolkien movie (even though LOTR was filmed in New Zealand). I just want to find a hole in a grassy knoll and and curl up.

  • @patchy64
    @patchy64 Před 5 lety +28

    From a irish person : You're Bang on point and if everyone was as educated on the matter brexit would never of happened

    • @koantao8321
      @koantao8321 Před 5 lety +5

      "... would never HAVE happened." Sorry, I know, I'm an old bastard....

    • @mohammedraheem6288
      @mohammedraheem6288 Před 5 lety +1

      I'm not sure how much the Northern Ireland border issue was mentioned during the brexit campaign, but it certainly should have been mentioned.

  • @texasborn2720
    @texasborn2720 Před 4 lety +4

    My understanding that in 2019 Northern Ireland became majority Catholic.

    • @beaglaoich4418
      @beaglaoich4418 Před 2 lety

      I would suggest waiting until the 2021 Northern Irish census is published

    • @texasborn2720
      @texasborn2720 Před 2 lety

      @@beaglaoich4418 Wait for what ?

    • @beaglaoich4418
      @beaglaoich4418 Před 2 lety +1

      @@texasborn2720 the census where people report their religion and ethnic identity that will confirm what is speculated to be a Catholic plurality in the past few years.
      The data is being compiled at the minute but it is expected that there should be a greater amount of Catholics than Protestants by then

  • @TroyKC
    @TroyKC Před 5 lety +3

    I used to live on the US-Mex border when it was so easy to cross back and forth ... ugh ... now it's just such a pain (depending on locations for sure) but yeah it's not as easy as it was before. I only mention this because I can imagine a worse situation between a Brexited UK +NI border with the Republic of Ireland ... but maybe it won't be as I imagine? I'm watching this from within "the belly of the beast" (middle of the USA) (just having the craic)

  • @Whelknarge
    @Whelknarge Před 5 lety +5

    Nice video, and I can see why you're cautious about committing to a position given the controversial nature of the topic. However, I see you're doing a fair bit of tap dancing around the gerrymandering of the border in its inclusion of counties with a majority nationalist vote - I didn't realise this was controversial but let's be clear; they didn't include them to "make things simpler", they tried to include as much territory as possible whilst just about maintaining a unionist majority, that is unequivocally why they did that.

  • @DonalLeader
    @DonalLeader Před 5 lety +2

    Well done! An excellent demonstration of why the Irish border is not like the City of London boroughs. Boris are you paying attention!

  • @e1123581321345589144
    @e1123581321345589144 Před 5 lety +1

    17:35 it's because of clouds or fog. It was cloudy or foggy when the base layer was shot.
    The towns were shot at a different time so they're fine.
    If you move away from that area you'll se that the blur goes away

    • @godlovesyou1995
      @godlovesyou1995 Před 5 lety +1

      No it's old photos. The town photos have been redone recently as they are more important and have changed more. The land on the right was N.Ireland which was probably done more recently.

  • @MWBlueNoodles
    @MWBlueNoodles Před 5 lety +1

    I don't really notice the switch from north to south when driving across the border. The only noticeable thing is the vehicle toll bridges.

  • @adaschmidt9150
    @adaschmidt9150 Před 4 lety +1

    You gotta wait until the video ends incase he remembers something and says it after the “Goodbye”

  • @bosheek8632
    @bosheek8632 Před 5 lety +99

    Ireland should reunify
    Ireland for the Irish!

    • @Lost_Pikachu
      @Lost_Pikachu Před 5 lety +19

      Bo Sheek - Ireland needs to leave the EU if they really want self rule.

    • @danielimmortuos666
      @danielimmortuos666 Před 5 lety +7

      Ireland should leave the fourth rei... I mean, the EU. And then, reunify, only then they would acquire true sovereignty

    • @tiernancampbell8247
      @tiernancampbell8247 Před 5 lety +16

      Josh MHO Ireland doesn't need to follow what the uk does

    • @savvageorge
      @savvageorge Před 5 lety +10

      Yes reunify with the UK like in the old days.

    • @JoshPhantom
      @JoshPhantom Před 5 lety +3

      Ireland is just like kurdistan, an illegal country. The only reason it's allowed to exist is because they were so horrible that the UK had to remove them for the safety of the empire and the whole world

  • @koppadasao
    @koppadasao Před 5 lety +4

    Oh, this can be solved quite easily
    UK continues the ID requirement for crossing between GB and NI, and about 10% of all non-UK citizens are processed for crossing an international border when crossing between GB and NI
    Eireland and NI put up customs posts along their effective borders, a so called hard border, BUT
    - all NI citizens get a new RFID card, which is scanned when approaching the border facilitating an open boarder for them
    - there are no customs checks for EU citizens crossing into NI
    Though about 1% of all cars and people crossing the NI/Irish border gets checked

    • @rootshelldev
      @rootshelldev Před 5 lety +1

      UK poilitics dont want to, under any circumstance, give up any authority over northern ireland. This would theoretically be the best solution but is sadly not possible in current political reality.

    • @pedclarkemobile
      @pedclarkemobile Před 5 lety +4

      @@rootshelldev no, UK politics couldnt really care less... Tories cannot sign a cheque without DUP so have to suffer their demands or find a new coalition.

    • @wholelifeahead
      @wholelifeahead Před 5 lety +1

      Yeah Ped is right, it isnt the Torrys calling the shots over NI its the DUP because if May does something the DUP are against she can kiss her majority goodbye and essentially fuck over the entire government

  • @ibx2cat
    @ibx2cat  Před rokem

    15:25 is the place I went to beat minecraft in 2 countries at once, just realised lol.

  • @Arganoid
    @Arganoid Před 5 lety +8

    The UK government agreed to the 'backstop' in December 2017, which is to say that a hard border cannot be allowed between Ireland and Northern Ireland. But if Northern Ireland is outside the single market and customs union then WTO rules require border checks. So there is literally a paradox. Meanwhile Brexit threatens great economic damage to both Ireland and Northern Ireland due to trade barriers. It's one thing for the UK to vote to economically harm itself, but it's even worse when you consider that we're causing economic harm to people in other countries who never had a say in the matter. There is still a way out of this - if Parliament is deadlocked and a no-deal Brexit is on the cards (as currently seems likely), the choice should be given back to the British people to find out what kind of Brexit they actually want - including the option of no Brexit, if people feel that the deals on offer don't live up to what they were promised in the original referendum campaign. There is a march in London on Saturday 20th October to call for such a vote.

  • @juanman75
    @juanman75 Před 5 lety

    Found this very interesting to watch, it’s fascinating to learn more about the history of how countries and borders have formed. Keep up the good work!

  • @xaverlustig3581
    @xaverlustig3581 Před 5 lety +3

    The UK has two other land borders with the EU: Gibraltar and Cyprus. Fun fact: Akrotiri & Dhekelia in Cyprus is the only British territory where the Euro is the official currency.

  • @flemo2885
    @flemo2885 Před 3 lety +2

    Your wrong. The flag of Ulster is yellow and red. The flag you shown is a unionist flag.

  • @needlehead9888
    @needlehead9888 Před 4 lety +2

    I am from Ireland so I see Irish maps a lot in school and I have to say
    *wtf why is down[ a county ] called down if it's in the north like it is up not down what is this madness*

    • @autumnhd
      @autumnhd Před 4 lety +2

      From Wikipedia:
      County Down takes its name from dún, the Irish word for dun or fort, which is a common root in Gaelic place names (such as Dundee, Dunfermline and Dumbarton in Scotland and Donegal and Dundalk in Ireland).[6] The fort in question was in the historic town of Downpatrick, originally known as Dún Lethglaise ("fort of the green side" or "fort of the two broken fetters").

  • @JfkJames
    @JfkJames Před 5 lety +36

    You can’t justify the border and talk about Irish history without talking about the brutal violence and oppression from the English

    • @Stevooo
      @Stevooo Před 5 lety +2

      U can cause it's not really that relevant anymore

    • @mikeoxsmal8022
      @mikeoxsmal8022 Před 5 lety +6

      stephenwhosl it ended this recently

    • @HarrisonJamess
      @HarrisonJamess Před 5 lety +11

      James Kennedy if you mention that then surely you should mention the attacks from the IRA on innocent people ?

    • @samuelquintin5787
      @samuelquintin5787 Před 5 lety +1

      THIS is why Europe can't have nice things..

    • @HarrisonJamess
      @HarrisonJamess Před 5 lety

      Samuel Quintin IRONY

  • @washyourmouthoutwithpope1334

    0:37 sir ireland has not been referred to as the free state since the 1930s

  • @ZeitgeistGaming69
    @ZeitgeistGaming69 Před 3 lety +1

    He forgot to mention the Irish War of Independence and the Irish Civil War.

  • @newforestpixie5297
    @newforestpixie5297 Před 4 lety +1

    When travelling along the A30 from Shaftesbury ( New Forest before that ) to watch Yeovil Town play at home , my dear elder brother couldn’t get his head around why at one point we found ourselves in Dorset then Somerset then Dorset then Somerset. If I wasn’t driving , I would’ve scribbled down a rough map to show how this can easily happen ! He’s not entirely to blame for not noticing this concept as the south western border between Dorset and Hampshire where we live probably only signposts the border at 60 % of the crossings ( Walkford Rd railway border un - signed for example. ) And at Roeshot Hill on the A35 I believe the Regional Border should be recognised instead of the cringingly tourism themed “ welcome to Dorset - home of the Jurassic Coast.” . Thanks chap , my fascination with boundaries etc started at 7 yrs old in 1971....love from wessexshire

  • @rigelkent8401
    @rigelkent8401 Před 3 lety +1

    The unionists in Dublin were the children of idle Irish landowners afraid of losing their privileged status.

  • @cianmcguire5647
    @cianmcguire5647 Před 5 lety +2

    I think high school musical comes to mind with “stick to the status quo” hahahaha

  • @john_mcal
    @john_mcal Před 5 lety +4

    “There is no Irish border, only a British border in Ireland”

    • @turkoositerapsidi
      @turkoositerapsidi Před 5 lety

      But isent Ierelandija british? They speak Englands language as nativ so they are english people in hearth and soul that England needs to protect.

    • @specs6310
      @specs6310 Před 4 lety

      TurkoosiTerapsidi how brain dead are you

    • @Sean-fu1nw
      @Sean-fu1nw Před 3 lety

      @@turkoositerapsidi jaysus christ were not British we only speak English bc the British invaded us but we fought back and won back most of the island just keep ur mouth shut when u dont know the whole story it can offend us

    • @turkoositerapsidi
      @turkoositerapsidi Před 3 lety

      @@Sean-fu1nw Älä suutu. 😊 Meri Christmes Irelandia!

  • @simon6495
    @simon6495 Před 4 lety

    The weirdest thing to me about this video is that there is people living directly on a high speed motorway.

  • @heckdornenschwert2289
    @heckdornenschwert2289 Před 5 lety +1

    Don't forget the future border between the UK and Scotland.

  • @psndoonan1
    @psndoonan1 Před 5 lety

    Small corrections on the flags, the flag there was the official flag of Northern Ireland up until the early 70s since then there has been no official flag of Northern Ireland, the Union Jack is the flag of the UK which n Ireland is part of.
    There is an older flag for the province of ulster with a yellow background and no crown above the red hand or star.

  • @DeKevers
    @DeKevers Před rokem

    I'm half Irish by blood, yet my grandparents are all from the city I am

  • @Grampssssss
    @Grampssssss Před 2 lety

    As someone who was born after the troubles and didnt grow up in either the UK or Ireland, hearing an actual not boring explanation of what the situation is was really nice lol

  • @JayMacTìre
    @JayMacTìre Před 5 lety +1

    The name Derry is an anglicisation of the Old Irish name Daire(modern Irish: Doire) meaning "oak grove"

    • @needlehead9888
      @needlehead9888 Před 4 lety

      which is weird because there is a place in Carlow called oak grove

  • @dambrooks7578
    @dambrooks7578 Před 5 lety +2

    On the subject of Muff, they have a distillery that produces the marvellous Muff Liqour. Check ot out 😉

  • @2-_
    @2-_ Před 5 lety +1

    3:54 it's actually most of Ulster is in northern Ireland.

  • @starsearchreject
    @starsearchreject Před 5 lety +1

    I actually like the way you comment on how it is now. Facts are cool things. Also - yeah, there are A LOT of us over here (in the US), who are Scots-Irish/Ulster Scots descendants - I'm one. It seems like very other person I meet is one lol. I know my 3rd and 4th great grandparents had a pile of kids (particularly my 3rd great grandfather lol - pretty sure he's left DNA in both continents). Prolific breeders, that bunch. Big families mean tons of descendants. So, here we are :).

  • @ronaldderooij1774
    @ronaldderooij1774 Před 5 lety +2

    We have a water border issue still on the extreme northeast of the Netherlands with Germany that is unsolved. It is kind of hilarious. The Germans erect wind turbines on Dutch (?) seabed. There is some international incident, but I did not hear about it anymore. I think those windturbines were not built there eventually. Also the ships beacons get very well maintained. In an endless cycle, the Dutch paint them in Dutch colors, and then the Germans paint them in German colors. And then the Dutch see that, and say: Those are not the right colors, and repaint them, etc. Potentially it is serious, as two German harbor outlets are Dutch (according to the Dutch) and one Dutch harbour outlet is German (according to Germany). Ah, well... The conflict predates both countries. It goes back to the Middle Ages when that all was land. That was clear, but suddenly the sea came in in a flood and nobody can prove where the border was (it used to be some small river).

    • @rootshelldev
      @rootshelldev Před 5 lety +1

      One of the many reasons why / how the EU brought peace to our blood soaked continent. Conflicts like this loose relevance in a union.

  • @penguinbloopers
    @penguinbloopers Před 5 lety +3

    20:54 You say that the U.K has free healthcare and the Rep. Ireland does not. This is not true, both countries have free public health care, funded through taxation.
    Edit: I made a mistake, I was wrong.

    • @pedclarkemobile
      @pedclarkemobile Před 5 lety +3

      Not true. Healthcare is only free for unemployed, kids etc. If you use the ambulance service (even if you didnt call them) you will be charged €100. Same if you go to accident & emergency. Look up "medical card HSE".

    • @qwertyTRiG
      @qwertyTRiG Před 5 lety +2

      However, the British NHS is generally considered to be better than the Irish HSE.

    • @penguinbloopers
      @penguinbloopers Před 5 lety

      Ped Clarke Thanks for clearing up the misconception I had mistakenly thought it applied to all.

    • @ibx2cat
      @ibx2cat  Před 5 lety +2

      Every country has a form of free healthcare for some of their citizens, countries like the UK and Canada are unique because it is universal (applies to everyone)

    • @yermanoffthetelly
      @yermanoffthetelly Před 5 lety

      @@ibx2cat The Irish health care system does differ from the British system in that its not fully universal (though there are many "ways around" if you know the system)The government is slowly moving towards a "universally affordable" health care system called Sláintecare, so contributions would be based on your means to pay and not a two tier public/private standard. I think that's a good idea and a fair model to adopt. The country already spends nearly €20 billion a year on health for a nation of around 5 million people.
      It has to be balanced with the fact that the Irish education system is practically free compared to the UK so its apples and oranges.

  • @alecpies
    @alecpies Před 5 lety +14

    I like it when you offend people, it’s one my favourite parts of your videos

    • @koantao8321
      @koantao8321 Před 5 lety +2

      Especially when he says that he doesn't want to offend anyone. LOL

  • @TomFantasia
    @TomFantasia Před 5 lety +4

    I'd love to see that video on populations that live outside of their country of ancestry! Especially for Italians and Irish.

  • @SilvanaDil
    @SilvanaDil Před 5 lety +2

    Yep, there are so MANY more people of Irish and/or Northern Irish descent in the U.S. Ditto for Norwegians and several other nationalities. About the same number of Jewish people in the U.S. as in Israel, too.

    • @MrSchizoid405
      @MrSchizoid405 Před 3 lety

      I think Northern Irish would count as British ancestry as the Northerners are from British people only 400 years ago.

  • @tearlach47
    @tearlach47 Před 4 lety +1

    15:11
    The road is called...
    *_Church Hill_*
    nice.

  • @theawesomefossums
    @theawesomefossums Před 5 lety +1

    Geopolitics has to be the next career move

  • @TERMINATE_Y-Z
    @TERMINATE_Y-Z Před 4 lety +4

    Fun Fact: The independent country of Ireland for a short time owned the whole island so if they kept it, this issue would not happen

    • @ibx2cat
      @ibx2cat  Před 4 lety +4

      by the same logic, if Ireland never left the UK this issue would not happen lol

    • @Sean-fu1nw
      @Sean-fu1nw Před 3 lety +1

      @@ibx2cat we didnt want to be in the uk

    • @MrSchizoid405
      @MrSchizoid405 Před 3 lety +3

      If the British never colonized the island the issue would never have happened either.

    • @gamermapper
      @gamermapper Před 2 lety

      @@MrSchizoid405 if the Celts, including the Irish, never colonised the British Isles this would've never happened

    • @MrSchizoid405
      @MrSchizoid405 Před 2 lety

      @@gamermapper No evidence the celts ever invaded Ireland or Britain.

  • @footyscominhome966
    @footyscominhome966 Před 5 lety +1

    why we let Gerry Adams live i dont know...

  • @tiagoprado7001
    @tiagoprado7001 Před 5 lety

    Using roads as borders isn't really that uncommon. For example, almost all border towns between Brazil and Uruguay are divided like that (because Cisplatina declared independence and became Uruguay), and quite a few border towns between Brazil and Paraguay that aren't split by the Paraguay or Paraná rivers do the same thing.

  • @PkPvre
    @PkPvre Před 2 lety

    33:05 hopefully I come across this video as I binge through all of them.

  • @jeevesponzi5257
    @jeevesponzi5257 Před 5 lety

    You did a great job there,mate.
    Well done

  • @Tihi92
    @Tihi92 Před 2 lety

    I went to Dublin last year and I was surprised to see how much it felt like UK. Literally no difference except for the currency and the feelings towards the UK.

    • @Craicfox161
      @Craicfox161 Před 2 lety

      Probably because it used to be part of the U.K.

  • @cillianmcneela4645
    @cillianmcneela4645 Před 5 lety +2

    BUS IRAN😂😂 sorry toycat “ayy-ren”

  • @Roca005
    @Roca005 Před 5 lety +1

    How about a video on the lack of border between Guatemala and the ex colony or usurped territory of Belize. If you look at Google maps there is no border. The Hague will deal with this issue soon I believe.

  • @osheen4238
    @osheen4238 Před 4 lety

    The flag for the Provence of Ulster is similar to the one you showed, but with yellow instead of white, and no crown

  • @mikki3562
    @mikki3562 Před 3 lety +1

    Sorry but you made that old mistake of calling the six-counties Ulster. It's not Ulster, the six-counties are only a part of Ulster, so calling it Ulster suggests it is a province on its own when it is not. There are nine counties in Ulster and but people in Ulster do not tend to call themselves Ulstermen or women. The ones who more often use that term are those people who regard themselves as settlers, the unionists or planters, descendants of British planters. They call themselves Ulstermen to try to somehow make out Ulster is somehow not just Ireland. The language of British colonialism in Ireland is maintained in British media and in their education system where most people in Britain know absolutely nothing about Ireland and many actually believe Britain owns Ireland. This is rather insulting to Irish people but it continues.

    • @beaglaoich4418
      @beaglaoich4418 Před 2 lety

      Personally as an Ulsterman and Irish nationalist I’ve tried to reclaim the term because I think there is some uniqueness to each of the provinces of Ireland, though I believe all are Irish.
      I think the ancient kingdoms of Ulster from which we have many myths and stories are something that we can and should embrace on a cultural and national level and shucks it makes for good tourism as well so least profiteer on it like most of the Scandi’s Italians, Chinese and Greeks on their own mythology

  • @ik5083
    @ik5083 Před 5 lety

    It isn't a problem as the EU and Britain have already agreed that when no Brexit deal can be reached than the border will remain open so Northern Ireland won't join Ireland to stay in contact with each other. This agreement was made months before this video.

  • @ascra1693
    @ascra1693 Před 5 lety +8

    Bus Iran?
    Its pronounced with a e

    • @turkoositerapsidi
      @turkoositerapsidi Před 5 lety

      This is the reason why celts were confused with aryans by germans in 1800 and they thought that all indo-euro is aryans. Even thought it was later revieled that irish and aryan names for themselves were not related.

    • @lochlainnw
      @lochlainnw Před 5 lety

      TealTherapsid Aryan doesn't sound like Eireann anyway, only if you butcher to pronunciation

    • @turkoositerapsidi
      @turkoositerapsidi Před 5 lety

      @@lochlainnw Yes, Iran, Pakistan, Afganistan, Tajikistan and North India is not same as Ireland, Cymru (Wales), Gaeli-Scotland or Bretonia.
      Germans fucked up back then and Hitler fucked up even more when he discriminated gypsies who are true aryans, and even if he went with all indo-eu being aryan, including germans. Then slavs would have been also aryan...

  • @mrsporty9669
    @mrsporty9669 Před 2 lety

    Irish sea is the border between Ireland and Britain. Very simple

  • @deniseobrien1560
    @deniseobrien1560 Před 4 lety +2

    As an Irish lil bits of this is wrong with the most pro Irish people were from connocht but the British took the plantations to the north because there was the most valuable land and not because they were the most pro Irish part of the island

    • @MrSchizoid405
      @MrSchizoid405 Před 3 lety +1

      NI has some of the worst land in Ireland, the best land is in Leinster and parts of Munster in terms of arable. He's correct the reason the British plantations in ulster happened is because of the Irish nine years war. Ulster was the most Irish part of Ireland during the 17th century.

  • @JohnSilverstar12
    @JohnSilverstar12 Před 5 lety +1

    Intelligent piece of feedback: the earth is flat

  • @Aidan-nd2ix
    @Aidan-nd2ix Před 5 lety

    Thanks for bringing awareness to the boarder

  • @mikemckenna6380
    @mikemckenna6380 Před 5 lety +1

    The concession road at 16:20 is so called because it was "conceeded". I´m not sure who conceeded what, I think maybe it was conceeded to the people of the south. When the troubles where happening, We could pass over this road without the army or customs checkpoints (both sides) stopping you. The deal was, you couldn´t stop your car, you had to keep going. During the troubles, they reduced the number of roads to police, by simply bombing them, leaving them impassable. Locals would come together to fill in the roads, but then the army would blow it up again. I remembered that there was a footbridge in Co Armagh around Caladeon, where there was no customs or army, and we would buy our electrical goods in the north, and get someone to meet us from the south at the other end of the footbridge, and take the car around through the checkpoint in Authnacloy. Where that footbrige is exactly, I can´t remember.... Somewhere around Caledon. From a google search, maybe it was the Dredge Bridge II. Anyway, a tip on the pronunciation of Clones, it rhymes with Lough Ness, so CloooNess, but faster. Notice the perfect circles in North Monaghan, these are ring forts. They are mostly within sight of each other, in order for the locals to protect themselves from cattle raiders in the past etc. One fort could communicate with the other. www.google.com.br/maps/@54.395968,-6.9998852,320m/data=!3m1!1e3. Crossing the border nowadays, the you´d mostly only notice is the quality of the roads, different types of houses, and the road signs, mph in the north and Km in the south .