This is Not a Magwell

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
  • This is Not a Magwell
    As you know, we don’t do gear reviews. We merely document what is going on around the armory and ranges.
    This product was billed to us as a HK VP9 magwell. It is not. I am not sure what it is supposed to be, but it is not a magwell. Don’t buy it expecting it to perform that function.
    We will be exploring magwell options for the VP9 as time permits.
    Sincerely,
    Marky
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Komentáře • 61

  • @John1911
    @John1911  Před 5 lety +2

    Not much to say. The video speaks for itself. We have moved on. That is not to disparage those who are using this item. We all have to find the means to our own salvation.
    Regards,
    Marky

    • @GRT1865
      @GRT1865 Před 5 lety +3

      Maybe it's not a mag well maybe it's just a butt plate, or floor plate, or bottom plate, or thing so your hand doesn't slide off. HAHAHA 😎 As you see I enjoyed the video. (But what do I know)😉

    • @John1911
      @John1911  Před 5 lety +2

      @@GRT1865 I think it's a rooster-ring. If you get my drift. -Marky

    • @GRT1865
      @GRT1865 Před 5 lety +2

      @@John1911 thanks for the laugh. HAHAHA (my grandson was wondering what I was laughing at, can't explain that to a 5 year old)

    • @John1911
      @John1911  Před 5 lety +1

      🤪

    • @Sheild_against_the_wicked556
      @Sheild_against_the_wicked556 Před rokem +1

      ​​@@GRT1865s actually much closer to the truth than he realizes. You're right. This magwell doesn't function as a reloading aid. It does however, do it's PRIMARY function exceptionally well. It's to help improve your grip. I'm surprised you didn't A) notice it, or at least mention it, and B) know that's actually the primary function of all aftermarket magwells. I have slim profile conceal carry magwells on ALL of my carry and SHTF guns. If it's for a Glock, yes, they will aid your reloads because of the design of the frame. But the magwell on my P30L, the exact same one you have, only aids with grip. And boy do magwells excell in that role. That's what it's for. Any shooter should be practiced enough with reloads for a magwell to simply be a luxury, other than using it for it's intended function.

  • @joespaan7587
    @joespaan7587 Před 3 lety +6

    For me, it is a pinky shelf....makes my grip on the gun feel better. That’s why I purchased it.

    • @John1911
      @John1911  Před 3 lety +1

      That feature you describe is a known product in target rifle circles. Hand shelf or hand rest. They should list it and sell it as such.
      The current description is at best mistaken. At worst, dishonest.
      -Marky

  • @arthurbirog9516
    @arthurbirog9516 Před 3 lety +4

    I wished I watched this video before I purchased mine. I agree with you 100%.

    • @John1911
      @John1911  Před 3 lety

      Sorry. I am right there with you. Mine currently sits in a HK box of junk.
      -Marky

  • @jruskky7545
    @jruskky7545 Před 18 dny +1

    I knew this wasn't a great magwell when I bought it. What it does for me is provide a pinky grip area to lock my vp9 in real nice. Totally agree trash magwell. But Great Lil grip mod

    • @John1911
      @John1911  Před 18 dny

      In the business, we call that a grip shelf. Some may also call it a palm rest, but that usually describes something quite different.
      Regards,
      Marky

  • @Jaime7188
    @Jaime7188 Před rokem +1

    i have the VP9 Match, i put on the larger competition magwell. after filing down some of the inside of the frame, it actually does make a difference. its just that you shouldn't have to do that on a gun that costs $1k plus. i guess its all part of the learning experience when it comes to modifying guns

    • @John1911
      @John1911  Před rokem

      If you look later in our website content, we went with a TF magwell. -Marky

  • @cbro412
    @cbro412 Před rokem +2

    Got one and installed today. Not blown away by it, reloads might a tiny bit easier, but if anything I do like the extra "grip" it provides. Also I didn't spend

    • @John1911
      @John1911  Před rokem

      Glass half-full thinking generally never hurts.
      -Marky

  • @brian50g
    @brian50g Před rokem +2

    It adds a littlew weight to the bottom of the pistol and sets a nice ledge for your hand...i love mine.

    • @John1911
      @John1911  Před rokem

      It adds no appreciable weight to the frame at all. It does not in any way reduce felt or perceived recoil by the user. Any argument otherwise is merely psychological or illogical in nature.
      If someone wants to state it works as a grip shelf, like we see on Olympic rifles, that’s fine. But it isn’t a mag funnel or frame weight of any measurable or significant effect.
      Regards,
      Marky

    • @brian50g
      @brian50g Před rokem +3

      @@John1911 I bought the steel one and have it on a VP9 match...yes it adds weight...perhaps you got the alloy one.

    • @John1911
      @John1911  Před rokem

      Correct. Ours is alloy. I didn’t know there was a heavier one. I would still question if it’s heavy enough to make an appreciable difference.
      Regards,
      Marky

  • @ChrisB-zz8dh
    @ChrisB-zz8dh Před 3 lety +1

    My VP9 is awesome. Not sure what you got there but should have left it the way it was. You bought it!!

    • @John1911
      @John1911  Před 3 lety

      Took that junk off.
      Marky

  • @jaimecornejo2185
    @jaimecornejo2185 Před rokem +1

    That magwell works as another form of recoil control. On the video it shows it all when you grip the pistol. From pinky to thumb your palm is wrapped around it for better recoil control. The definition “magwel” is the magazine well. It is not the competition style that seriously flared out like a funnel.

    • @John1911
      @John1911  Před rokem

      Jamie, in my opinion you are trying to make a square peg fit into a round hole. AKA reaching. What you are trying to describe is known as a palm rest or sometimes a grip-shelf in the target shooting circles. This item when we bought it was absolutely marketed as a “magwell”. Additionally the feeling you are describing is typically something found on smaller gripped pistols with magwells attached. The best example is the Glock 19. Larger hands on G19’s with magwells give that extra purchase you are trying to describe. Oh yeah…and they function as mag wells too.
      Look. I get it. You like your VP9. It’s in my opinion, probably the best striker-fired pistol made today. Fully ambi. But this aftermarket “magwell” is a joke. If the maker wants to sell it as a palm rest, label it as such. This item as it’s currently sold is, in my opinion, a scam.
      Regards,
      Marky

  • @shinigami1925
    @shinigami1925 Před 3 lety +3

    Your video is completely true and honest. Worse yet the “competition” model is just as bad. HK Parts makes a lot of stuff, mostly overpriced, some functional, but this is absolutely crap. One point you didn’t mention is, this thing makes it impossible to strip a factory mag in a type 3 malfunction remediation- so people carrying a gun with the silly thing might have a real problem. I sure hope people considering this thing see your video first. Honestly, if I were a lawyer for HK, I would send a Cease and Desist to HK Parts for sullying the company name.

    • @John1911
      @John1911  Před 3 lety +2

      I’m not going to make it personal. The thing doesn’t do the job well. So don’t buy the thing. My loss is your gain.
      Yes, I am aware of the previous owners’s trouble with the BATFE. But that’s beyond this video.
      Glad you liked it!
      Marky

  • @fr8cture
    @fr8cture Před 2 lety +2

    Just got mine, I should have looked it up on youtube first.. I ordered the steel one too for a bit extra. Hopefully they will take it back.

    • @John1911
      @John1911  Před 2 lety

      The Taylor Freelance version is big but works. So consider that.
      Regards,
      Marky

    • @fr8cture
      @fr8cture Před 2 lety +1

      @@John1911 I was hoping to find a video on it but didn't see any. I might grab that for my VP9 match that I just order but I'd like to carry my standard vp9 from time to time.

    • @John1911
      @John1911  Před 2 lety

      You can get a glimpse of the TF magwell in this video. Note, i had to cut some of the frame away to get this on.
      So once you hang it, you’re likely keeping it attached.
      Marky
      czcams.com/video/DjhPGeuu_CI/video.html

  • @babyboipushat15
    @babyboipushat15 Před 2 lety +1

    Are we ignoring the rpg’s in the background 🤣

    • @John1911
      @John1911  Před 2 lety

      “Dat little guy? Don’t worry bout dat little guy”.
      😁
      -Marky

  • @Dara-ih6jq
    @Dara-ih6jq Před 3 lety +1

    It’s like fake eyelashes for a gun. I never understood why people put this on their gun it makes them look like the guys who put fake race car pars on heir car that ever real car guy sees and shakes his head at. Thanks for making an honest video on this. Been telling my brother-in-law it’s not a magwell forever. Sending him this video run.

    • @John1911
      @John1911  Před 3 lety

      Well…now we know. It's a bizarre product. -Marky

  • @Nierlock
    @Nierlock Před 4 lety +3

    John, I bought the “competition” magwell. I also ran into this same issue, I was confused because it leaves the edges exposed and causes my reloads to hang up. This product makes reloads HARDER. Sorry about your bad experience

    • @John1911
      @John1911  Před 4 lety

      I am amazed when I see so many of them on guns. It’s almost like the owners don’t...actually...shoot? 🤷🏼‍♂️
      Thanks for taking the tune to watch our channel.
      Sincerely,
      Marky

  • @rupertgumban9251
    @rupertgumban9251 Před 3 lety +1

    I’m looking for hkvp9 frame, do you sell one for FFL transfer or any link that you know that sells one, thanks

    • @John1911
      @John1911  Před 3 lety

      We do not. I have seen some on GB in the past however. I suggest looking there.
      Regards,
      Marky

  • @rupertgumban9251
    @rupertgumban9251 Před 3 lety +1

    Do u sell hkvp9 frame for FFL transfer? Thanks

  • @j.p.9522
    @j.p.9522 Před 5 lety +3

    The VP9 was designed by accountants.

  • @TheGlock34man
    @TheGlock34man Před rokem +1

    Dam. I hope this is not the one i just ordered from hkparts yesterday

    • @John1911
      @John1911  Před rokem +1

      I’d bet money on it. -Marky

    • @TheGlock34man
      @TheGlock34man Před rokem +1

      @@John1911 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @John1911
      @John1911  Před rokem +1

      Cancel the order. It’s the weekend. It hasn’t processed yet. Probably.
      Marky

  • @Kanzi--
    @Kanzi-- Před 4 měsíci +2

    Cal down, take a breath, and then record.

  • @theskolian7177
    @theskolian7177 Před 3 lety +1

    It's absolutely disgusting is what it is. I wish I'd seen your video before I bought this crap from HK Parts.

    • @John1911
      @John1911  Před 3 lety

      Maybe they will give you a refund?
      🤷🏼‍♂️
      Marky

  • @ProudAmerican10
    @ProudAmerican10 Před rokem +1

    Thanks you just saved me $70.

    • @John1911
      @John1911  Před rokem +1

      Glad to have helped.
      -Marky

  • @David-bb7mt
    @David-bb7mt Před 5 lety +1

    Is there another one you would recommend?

    • @John1911
      @John1911  Před 5 lety +2

      I am currently playing with one from Taylor freelance. But I’m not entirely sure I would recommend it yet.
      It’s on the other end of the spectrum: pretty big. I’m considering cutting it down and making a custom fit myself.
      Before I recommend anything let me see what’s doable first. Fair enough?
      Marky

    • @David-bb7mt
      @David-bb7mt Před 5 lety +2

      @@John1911 Awesome! Thanks for the reply! I just started USPSA so I'm not sure I even deserve a magwell yet but I think I will eventually

    • @John1911
      @John1911  Před 5 lety +2

      USPSA? Get a magwell for sure!
      Marky