This is Not a Magwell
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- This is Not a Magwell
As you know, we don’t do gear reviews. We merely document what is going on around the armory and ranges.
This product was billed to us as a HK VP9 magwell. It is not. I am not sure what it is supposed to be, but it is not a magwell. Don’t buy it expecting it to perform that function.
We will be exploring magwell options for the VP9 as time permits.
Sincerely,
Marky
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Not much to say. The video speaks for itself. We have moved on. That is not to disparage those who are using this item. We all have to find the means to our own salvation.
Regards,
Marky
Maybe it's not a mag well maybe it's just a butt plate, or floor plate, or bottom plate, or thing so your hand doesn't slide off. HAHAHA 😎 As you see I enjoyed the video. (But what do I know)😉
@@GRT1865 I think it's a rooster-ring. If you get my drift. -Marky
@@John1911 thanks for the laugh. HAHAHA (my grandson was wondering what I was laughing at, can't explain that to a 5 year old)
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@@GRT1865s actually much closer to the truth than he realizes. You're right. This magwell doesn't function as a reloading aid. It does however, do it's PRIMARY function exceptionally well. It's to help improve your grip. I'm surprised you didn't A) notice it, or at least mention it, and B) know that's actually the primary function of all aftermarket magwells. I have slim profile conceal carry magwells on ALL of my carry and SHTF guns. If it's for a Glock, yes, they will aid your reloads because of the design of the frame. But the magwell on my P30L, the exact same one you have, only aids with grip. And boy do magwells excell in that role. That's what it's for. Any shooter should be practiced enough with reloads for a magwell to simply be a luxury, other than using it for it's intended function.
For me, it is a pinky shelf....makes my grip on the gun feel better. That’s why I purchased it.
That feature you describe is a known product in target rifle circles. Hand shelf or hand rest. They should list it and sell it as such.
The current description is at best mistaken. At worst, dishonest.
-Marky
I wished I watched this video before I purchased mine. I agree with you 100%.
Sorry. I am right there with you. Mine currently sits in a HK box of junk.
-Marky
I knew this wasn't a great magwell when I bought it. What it does for me is provide a pinky grip area to lock my vp9 in real nice. Totally agree trash magwell. But Great Lil grip mod
In the business, we call that a grip shelf. Some may also call it a palm rest, but that usually describes something quite different.
Regards,
Marky
i have the VP9 Match, i put on the larger competition magwell. after filing down some of the inside of the frame, it actually does make a difference. its just that you shouldn't have to do that on a gun that costs $1k plus. i guess its all part of the learning experience when it comes to modifying guns
If you look later in our website content, we went with a TF magwell. -Marky
Got one and installed today. Not blown away by it, reloads might a tiny bit easier, but if anything I do like the extra "grip" it provides. Also I didn't spend
Glass half-full thinking generally never hurts.
-Marky
It adds a littlew weight to the bottom of the pistol and sets a nice ledge for your hand...i love mine.
It adds no appreciable weight to the frame at all. It does not in any way reduce felt or perceived recoil by the user. Any argument otherwise is merely psychological or illogical in nature.
If someone wants to state it works as a grip shelf, like we see on Olympic rifles, that’s fine. But it isn’t a mag funnel or frame weight of any measurable or significant effect.
Regards,
Marky
@@John1911 I bought the steel one and have it on a VP9 match...yes it adds weight...perhaps you got the alloy one.
Correct. Ours is alloy. I didn’t know there was a heavier one. I would still question if it’s heavy enough to make an appreciable difference.
Regards,
Marky
My VP9 is awesome. Not sure what you got there but should have left it the way it was. You bought it!!
Took that junk off.
Marky
That magwell works as another form of recoil control. On the video it shows it all when you grip the pistol. From pinky to thumb your palm is wrapped around it for better recoil control. The definition “magwel” is the magazine well. It is not the competition style that seriously flared out like a funnel.
Jamie, in my opinion you are trying to make a square peg fit into a round hole. AKA reaching. What you are trying to describe is known as a palm rest or sometimes a grip-shelf in the target shooting circles. This item when we bought it was absolutely marketed as a “magwell”. Additionally the feeling you are describing is typically something found on smaller gripped pistols with magwells attached. The best example is the Glock 19. Larger hands on G19’s with magwells give that extra purchase you are trying to describe. Oh yeah…and they function as mag wells too.
Look. I get it. You like your VP9. It’s in my opinion, probably the best striker-fired pistol made today. Fully ambi. But this aftermarket “magwell” is a joke. If the maker wants to sell it as a palm rest, label it as such. This item as it’s currently sold is, in my opinion, a scam.
Regards,
Marky
Your video is completely true and honest. Worse yet the “competition” model is just as bad. HK Parts makes a lot of stuff, mostly overpriced, some functional, but this is absolutely crap. One point you didn’t mention is, this thing makes it impossible to strip a factory mag in a type 3 malfunction remediation- so people carrying a gun with the silly thing might have a real problem. I sure hope people considering this thing see your video first. Honestly, if I were a lawyer for HK, I would send a Cease and Desist to HK Parts for sullying the company name.
I’m not going to make it personal. The thing doesn’t do the job well. So don’t buy the thing. My loss is your gain.
Yes, I am aware of the previous owners’s trouble with the BATFE. But that’s beyond this video.
Glad you liked it!
Marky
Just got mine, I should have looked it up on youtube first.. I ordered the steel one too for a bit extra. Hopefully they will take it back.
The Taylor Freelance version is big but works. So consider that.
Regards,
Marky
@@John1911 I was hoping to find a video on it but didn't see any. I might grab that for my VP9 match that I just order but I'd like to carry my standard vp9 from time to time.
You can get a glimpse of the TF magwell in this video. Note, i had to cut some of the frame away to get this on.
So once you hang it, you’re likely keeping it attached.
Marky
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Are we ignoring the rpg’s in the background 🤣
“Dat little guy? Don’t worry bout dat little guy”.
😁
-Marky
It’s like fake eyelashes for a gun. I never understood why people put this on their gun it makes them look like the guys who put fake race car pars on heir car that ever real car guy sees and shakes his head at. Thanks for making an honest video on this. Been telling my brother-in-law it’s not a magwell forever. Sending him this video run.
Well…now we know. It's a bizarre product. -Marky
John, I bought the “competition” magwell. I also ran into this same issue, I was confused because it leaves the edges exposed and causes my reloads to hang up. This product makes reloads HARDER. Sorry about your bad experience
I am amazed when I see so many of them on guns. It’s almost like the owners don’t...actually...shoot? 🤷🏼♂️
Thanks for taking the tune to watch our channel.
Sincerely,
Marky
I’m looking for hkvp9 frame, do you sell one for FFL transfer or any link that you know that sells one, thanks
We do not. I have seen some on GB in the past however. I suggest looking there.
Regards,
Marky
Do u sell hkvp9 frame for FFL transfer? Thanks
No. Sorry.
M
The VP9 was designed by accountants.
HA! I hope not! -marky
Dam. I hope this is not the one i just ordered from hkparts yesterday
I’d bet money on it. -Marky
@@John1911 🤦🏻♂️
Cancel the order. It’s the weekend. It hasn’t processed yet. Probably.
Marky
Cal down, take a breath, and then record.
It's absolutely disgusting is what it is. I wish I'd seen your video before I bought this crap from HK Parts.
Maybe they will give you a refund?
🤷🏼♂️
Marky
Thanks you just saved me $70.
Glad to have helped.
-Marky
Is there another one you would recommend?
I am currently playing with one from Taylor freelance. But I’m not entirely sure I would recommend it yet.
It’s on the other end of the spectrum: pretty big. I’m considering cutting it down and making a custom fit myself.
Before I recommend anything let me see what’s doable first. Fair enough?
Marky
@@John1911 Awesome! Thanks for the reply! I just started USPSA so I'm not sure I even deserve a magwell yet but I think I will eventually
USPSA? Get a magwell for sure!
Marky