I presume most of the stability comes from holding the violin between the neck and shoulder. I was taught to treat the violin like a part of my arm, held in place by my neck, not tightly but just enough to keep it steady Another tip I’ve been taught is don’t press against the back of the fingerboard with your thumb because you will add pressure in that direction and potentially shake the violin. I am by no means a professional so if anyone can correct these techniques please do so!
@@hojowojo my old teacher said I don't need it. So I got a jew teacher since I think my old teacher wasn't a very good teacher. And my new teacher does tell me I need it. She's right. It's not my fault I never used shoulder rest
Arm vibrato can be important as one factor in a technique that also involves hand and finger movement. Not sure the hand placement shown is very helpful.
My hand always seems to “stick” to the finger board, making my attempts choppy and the whole violin to knock against my chin/jaw and neck. I’ve played the violin for about 7-8 years but was actively learning for about 5. I feel like I can’t get my body to correlate both moving the bow AND move my left hand smoothly. Got any tips?
I think you should try playing with the violin in the wall so it's easier. Put a pillow and just press the violin over the pillow. . Or maybe you need shoulder rest.
I'm not an expert so I'm not entirely sure but maybe try bowing just in one very slow bow. Once you get the hang of that, try just constantly doing it until your comfortable. Then just leave your bow like that and try not focusing on it. Focus on your fingers instead. I don't know if this will help but never hurts to try!
A self taught violinist needs help! I’m finally starting to hear good vibratos but I’m comfortable playing them when my thumb is almost exactly _under_ the finger board, not around and towards the left of it. It does mess up my intonation a lot, but is that an ok way to do vibratos? They sound super good like that. If I don’t play it like that, then my thumb doesn’t let my fingers to do the vibratos on the G strings at all, and barely on the D string. At this point I’m not even sure how to hold a violin, does the thumb go towards the left or is it under the fingerboard, or is anything ok? Being self taught sucks 😭
Wait I think this actually worked it’s like i hear the vibrato for a split second and then I forget to move my bow because by time I get that noise I’m already at the tip of my bow and for some reason I keep doing a down bow
I dont agree. The second where you did the vibrato you were holding the violin with your thumb and not in the space between the thumb and pointing finger. Thats crucialy a bad advice because i made the mistake to hold my violin lile that several years and now i have to train myself to NOT do that, because im missing a lot of flexibility to get a great sound - not to mention a great vibrato
I have the exact same problem, even though I’ve played the violin for 9 years (I’ve never practised a lot until the last couple of weeks so I don’t really have a good level but let’s get back to the subject), and I don’t know how to not hold my violin and be tight… did you find a way to unlearn this ?
@@anaisthevenin915 im on an etude, where its about shifting a lot from first to third position and back - stuff like that. Its really helping since you have to loose that clinching in order to shift propperly and somehow my brain and hand are doing this on their own since im practising on that etude ^^ got a lot tense hold on my violin since then and even managed to get a somewhat of a vibrato - was fascinating to hear that from myself :D
@@cemaikanhigh Thanks for your answer ! So you “just” practise to switch from first to third position without holding the violin (like without tense hold) ?
@@anaisthevenin915 more or less yes. The Etude im talking about is from Fr. A. Hoffman... - sadly i dont have more information since its just copied from a book and given to me... it starts with comodo. legato, maybe you can find it somewhere. im just playing that etude to practice. Since its a piece with a lot of shifts, your hand automatically looses the tensiness to be able to shift. also look for a comf position for your chin and your shoulderrest, since you should hold your violin more with them instead your left hand. Im not a proffessional - even far away from that, so this is all just tipps from a beginner guy ^^` maybe try to find a proffessional who can help you better :)
as a violin player of 1.5 years this is what finally helped with my vibrato!!!
You're a genius
Just what I needed, thank you for sharing.
I just played my first ever vibrato thanks to you(after 10 years of playing😭)
This video just made me subscribe. The way you explain stuff is goooood
I love the kindness in your teachings, thank you!
How everything should be
Muchísimas gracias
This is fantastic I needed to learn vibrato
how do you not make the instrument shake
I presume most of the stability comes from holding the violin between the neck and shoulder. I was taught to treat the violin like a part of my arm, held in place by my neck, not tightly but just enough to keep it steady
Another tip I’ve been taught is don’t press against the back of the fingerboard with your thumb because you will add pressure in that direction and potentially shake the violin.
I am by no means a professional so if anyone can correct these techniques please do so!
I have this same issue. I
You should not be rotating your wrist but moving it in a back and forth movement
I'm a pro or anything but if my shoulder rest isn't placed well, the instrument isn't very stable.
You're squeezing with your thumb if your violin shakes.
Excellent...😊
Thank you this helped so much
It's harder than what I thought. I think I really need a shoulder rest now..
The same thing happens to me, my shoulder is very tired and it starts to hurt 😢
@@una_volita I always need to lift my shoulder all the time
Oh DEFINITELY. I thought I didn’t need a shoulder rest but as I started advancing, it became a necessity
yeah, you should’ve gotten a shoulder rest when you first got all of your materials.
@@hojowojo my old teacher said I don't need it. So I got a jew teacher since I think my old teacher wasn't a very good teacher. And my new teacher does tell me I need it. She's right. It's not my fault I never used shoulder rest
Thanks that's easy
Arm vibrato can be important as one factor in a technique that also involves hand and finger movement. Not sure the hand placement shown is very helpful.
you are correct.
This video helped me from all thank you for doing this video now I can do vibrto
Okay but how the FUCK am i sopost to NOt shake the FUCKING BOW at the SAM3 TIME 😂😂😢😢😢😢😢😢 ;-;
thanks!
Perfekt 💪👍👌
It really helped
Oh dear.. My brain only goes gnog gnog gnog gnog gnog.. I mean it works.. But slow.. And my arm hurts.. Just wonder if I am weak or anemic
My hand always seems to “stick” to the finger board, making my attempts choppy and the whole violin to knock against my chin/jaw and neck. I’ve played the violin for about 7-8 years but was actively learning for about 5. I feel like I can’t get my body to correlate both moving the bow AND move my left hand smoothly. Got any tips?
I think you should try playing with the violin in the wall so it's easier. Put a pillow and just press the violin over the pillow. . Or maybe you need shoulder rest.
I'm not an expert so I'm not entirely sure but maybe try bowing just in one very slow bow. Once you get the hang of that, try just constantly doing it until your comfortable. Then just leave your bow like that and try not focusing on it. Focus on your fingers instead. I don't know if this will help but never hurts to try!
A self taught violinist needs help!
I’m finally starting to hear good vibratos but I’m comfortable playing them when my thumb is almost exactly _under_ the finger board, not around and towards the left of it. It does mess up my intonation a lot, but is that an ok way to do vibratos? They sound super good like that. If I don’t play it like that, then my thumb doesn’t let my fingers to do the vibratos on the G strings at all, and barely on the D string.
At this point I’m not even sure how to hold a violin, does the thumb go towards the left or is it under the fingerboard, or is anything ok?
Being self taught sucks 😭
Do i need to put pressure on the finger that is on the string? Cause my violin moves slightly up and down
Wait I think this actually worked it’s like i hear the vibrato for a split second and then I forget to move my bow because by time I get that noise I’m already at the tip of my bow and for some reason I keep doing a down bow
Gojo infinity
Now I need to try.. Wait a minute
Good idea, but rubbing the webbing on the neck might be quite uncomfortable if the neck is sticky or not well crafted..
When you put your finger down, then you don't have the neck in the "webbing". Right?
YES! This is a clip from a much longer video. Watch that for the full explanation
Could we have a link here to the longer video, please, or just the date and title of the longer one? :)
Thanks
Tim
Found it :) czcams.com/video/fjmxsxm7f4c/video.html
Hayst😭
Wahhh im still beginner but i pulled it a little😮
But how do I make my finger only flex at the first joint the way you do?
i cant because my hand is abit sweaty and its sticking onto the violin making it hard to move my hand while touching it 😭
hmm, i know this motion. this should be easy
Does this work on viola?
Yes
But my violin shakes with my hand when i do that
MY REACTION WHEN I SNAPPED INTO REALITY AND WASNT CONFUSED: 😨😱
:)
I dont agree. The second where you did the vibrato you were holding the violin with your thumb and not in the space between the thumb and pointing finger. Thats crucialy a bad advice because i made the mistake to hold my violin lile that several years and now i have to train myself to NOT do that, because im missing a lot of flexibility to get a great sound - not to mention a great vibrato
I have the exact same problem, even though I’ve played the violin for 9 years (I’ve never practised a lot until the last couple of weeks so I don’t really have a good level but let’s get back to the subject), and I don’t know how to not hold my violin and be tight… did you find a way to unlearn this ?
@@anaisthevenin915 im on an etude, where its about shifting a lot from first to third position and back - stuff like that. Its really helping since you have to loose that clinching in order to shift propperly and somehow my brain and hand are doing this on their own since im practising on that etude ^^ got a lot tense hold on my violin since then and even managed to get a somewhat of a vibrato - was fascinating to hear that from myself :D
@@cemaikanhigh Thanks for your answer ! So you “just” practise to switch from first to third position without holding the violin (like without tense hold) ?
@@anaisthevenin915 more or less yes. The Etude im talking about is from Fr. A. Hoffman... - sadly i dont have more information since its just copied from a book and given to me... it starts with comodo. legato, maybe you can find it somewhere.
im just playing that etude to practice. Since its a piece with a lot of shifts, your hand automatically looses the tensiness to be able to shift. also look for a comf position for your chin and your shoulderrest, since you should hold your violin more with them instead your left hand.
Im not a proffessional - even far away from that, so this is all just tipps from a beginner guy ^^` maybe try to find a proffessional who can help you better :)
Wait! That is arm vibrato which is not as nice as WRIST vibrato.
He skipped the fact that he is generating the vibrato from the first knuckle of his finger. This is terrible instruction.
too many unnecessary moves