Mathematical Construction of a Viking War Horn! - Tandis

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  • čas přidán 7. 06. 2023
  • Tandis Part 2 - this beautiful mathematics game gets better with every passing level. So many interesting shapes that used to be undiscernible now become doable with the help of prior knowledge. This game teaches you a language, and I am loving every second of it!
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Komentáře • 311

  • @AssJagger
    @AssJagger Před rokem +995

    I like watching Tyler play this type of game because I know I am not smart enough to do it myself

  • @Axelantic
    @Axelantic Před rokem +518

    Before watching Tyler I had zero interest in puzzle games, but this has been some of the most interesting content I’ve ever seen.

    • @aynonymos
      @aynonymos Před rokem +7

      I like puzzles but it's fun seeing how others use logic.

    • @Nevir202
      @Nevir202 Před rokem +11

      Before watchin his Demon Crawl series I was NEVER able to understand Mine Sweeper.
      Now I've beaten that game on even the hardest difficulty, albeit with some lucky loot.

    • @masonengel1928
      @masonengel1928 Před rokem +1

      @@Nevir202 I miss Demon Crawl those streams were so good

    • @Nevir202
      @Nevir202 Před rokem +3

      @@masonengel1928 Never watched the streams, I prefer edited content, as I'm not really good at "watching in the background." so watching someone else play a videogame for 6 hours is significantly less interesting to me than playing a game myself.
      However, watching a tightly edited, 20-60 minute video that may represent 6 hours of gameplay? That's right up my alley lol.

    • @obelius_
      @obelius_ Před rokem

      I play completely different game genres to tyler but enjoy his content still, its calming 😂

  • @aa01blue38
    @aa01blue38 Před rokem +375

    not gonna lie the editors' visualizations are insanely helpful here

  • @anorbinspace51
    @anorbinspace51 Před rokem +159

    use ctrl to use a grid to get things more perfectly. just a quick note

    • @Not_mera
      @Not_mera Před 7 měsíci +1

      Are you shitting me? I 100% the game today... I read through the little launcher thing to make sure I wasn't missing any of the controls.

    • @gametalk3149
      @gametalk3149 Před 4 dny

      @@Not_merahe is in fact, shitting you

  • @BenjaminParker96
    @BenjaminParker96 Před rokem +234

    This is probably most UNIQUE game I've seen in the past few months!

    • @benjaminanderson1014
      @benjaminanderson1014 Před rokem +2

      Months? How about ever

    • @BenjaminParker96
      @BenjaminParker96 Před rokem +1

      @@benjaminanderson1014 inscryption was pretty good though

    • @benjaminanderson1014
      @benjaminanderson1014 Před rokem +1

      @@BenjaminParker96 Oh absolutely, Inscryption is an awesome game. It takes a lot of inspiration from other card games though, so wouldn't call it as unique as this game. (not saying it's worse, just less unique)

    • @pewpewpiedipie2673
      @pewpewpiedipie2673 Před rokem +3

      In terms of creativity, I loved can of wormholes

  • @nluu8132
    @nluu8132 Před rokem +216

    The editing is immaculate on this one, especially at 14:00

    • @palokyu9891
      @palokyu9891 Před rokem +19

      I feel like every other comment is about the editing, and for good reason because *damn* his editors have been so good this past year

    • @Leveronicus
      @Leveronicus Před rokem +3

      I scrolled down and saw this comment at exactly this moment. Wow.

    • @IdoN_Tlikethis
      @IdoN_Tlikethis Před rokem +2

      also 11:23

  • @kianasheibani1708
    @kianasheibani1708 Před rokem +112

    This game's design is very cool because it causes you to essentially invent mathematical and geometric concepts in your head as you familiarize yourself with the rules of the game.
    A lot of the more interesting examples of this were introduced in the last video (polar coordinates; circles, hyperbolas, and the fact that they are "opposites"; hyperboloids; construction of the torus (aka donut) by gluing the opposite sides of a square; the sphere as a degenerate case of a torus; and doubtless many more that I didn't even think to make the connection to)
    But this video has some cool examples of this too!

    • @kianasheibani1708
      @kianasheibani1708 Před rokem +17

      Some notes I have while watching this video:
      - In the first puzzle, Tyler ends up stretching out a cylinder by a factor of 4, applying the waviness transformation to it, then reversing the stretching. This is an example a group theory concept called _conjugation;_ to be more specific, the waviness transform is being conjugated with the stretching transform to result in a new transformation that (to put it informally) "combines" the effects of both original transformations.
      - The square transformation (not the regular square one, the new square one) is homeomorphic to the circular one, but with the points on each radial line scaled by a factor of min(|sec θ|, |csc θ|).
      - Theoretically speaking, this entire game can be mathematically modeled as taking place within a space M x ℝ, where M is an arbitrary 2-manifold. Each of the tiles represents a coordinate chart on M, and the game involves applying the transition maps of these coordinate charts (with the third dimension not involving M being left unchanged). Combined with the rotations that the player can perform, this set of transformations forms a subgroup of the automorphism group on ℝ^3; the puzzle is then to find an element of this group that, given two subsets of ℝ^3, images one onto the other.
      - The target shape at 8:39 is called a helix. Or rather, to be more specific, it's a cylinder that is deformed into the shape of a helix.

    • @FinnishArsonist
      @FinnishArsonist Před rokem +3

      ​@@kianasheibani1708 something that I noticed is that a lot of the procedure is very similar to using calculus to find a solid of revolution - you can see the thought process at 4:45. it's interesting to see a game that subtly use those sorts of concepts.

    • @kianasheibani1708
      @kianasheibani1708 Před rokem +5

      @@FinnishArsonist Yes, many of the shapes constructed in this game are solids of revolution.
      That comes from the fact that moving from the regular square tile to the circular tile turns a straight line into a circle. If you take into account that the vertical dimension is unchanged, performing that transformation is equivalent to constructing a solid of revolution where the axis is vertical.

    • @terdragontra8900
      @terdragontra8900 Před rokem

      Very true (though there are no technical hyperboloids in this game, just surfaces with negative curvature with circular cross section, that is, the inner half of a torus)

    • @jenniferdunstan5065
      @jenniferdunstan5065 Před rokem +2

      I like your funny words magic man

  • @LitNothin
    @LitNothin Před rokem +30

    This game has a similar vibe to origami, where you can get shapes from a single piece of paper that you never thought were remotely possible.

  • @Mushboom37
    @Mushboom37 Před rokem +72

    I’m addicted to the puzzle man

    • @Zaniahiononzenbei
      @Zaniahiononzenbei Před rokem +4

      I just wish he put his videos out a little earlier, so I'm not staying up so late. 😅

    • @AnAverageGamer18
      @AnAverageGamer18 Před rokem +3

      ​@@Zaniahiononzenbeiit's literally 2:30AM rn and I'm like "alright, Tyler dropped, I NEED to watch this before sleeping"

    • @jozimastar95
      @jozimastar95 Před 11 měsíci

      ​​@@AnAverageGamer18 don't think you need sleep after this

  • @butter_0021
    @butter_0021 Před rokem +79

    I’ve been watching for 3 seconds. Oh god Tyler what are you saying.

  • @lorenzosegoloni
    @lorenzosegoloni Před rokem +22

    Once you understand how the transformations work, this game is so good to watch

  • @agent_blarpy9730
    @agent_blarpy9730 Před rokem +38

    The puzzle game for if conventional puzzle games dont melt your brain enough

  • @Joseph125
    @Joseph125 Před rokem +26

    That last puzzle was incredible. Aspects of the square transformation feel a bit less elegant, but nonetheless a brilliant exercise in getting a complex shape through a series of simple transformations.

  • @TKNinja37
    @TKNinja37 Před rokem +2

    1:19 -- Editing perfection

  • @citratune7830
    @citratune7830 Před rokem +4

    Ok- Other people say they can’t keep up. Theyre right. I can’t. But holy moly, its so fun to pause for like 30 seconds, find a solution that works theoretically, and then watch you figure it out via a very similar thought process. For 5:37, I was thinking you could make a triangle with a right angle by using the bottom right 4 squares on the top right square. Then, just make it a circle and elongate. You just found a different way of making a triangle.

    • @citratune7830
      @citratune7830 Před rokem

      I think a huge help for me is experience with stuff in 3d modelling, like extrudes and revolutes and lofts. Maybe not.

  • @callie1205
    @callie1205 Před rokem +8

    honestly an amazing way to thing about some of these levels are to just hink about them in terms of doughnuts

  • @DWal32
    @DWal32 Před rokem +8

    honestly the most impressive part is the fact you dont need to get perfectly exact replicas of the goal shape

  • @ragequazar
    @ragequazar Před rokem +3

    this game is genuinely incredible, i have no words to describe the feeling of awe i get from watching the process.

  • @gaymergirl1
    @gaymergirl1 Před rokem +4

    this editing is amazing

  • @hydration4333
    @hydration4333 Před rokem +4

    every video I think the editing's the best so far and then the next video makes it better, amazing stuff

  • @christinejoyreyes1767
    @christinejoyreyes1767 Před rokem +2

    That beginning though

  • @cineblazer
    @cineblazer Před rokem +5

    Ben is killing it with those visualizations while you're explaining your thought process. Also, this game is so amazingly cool.

  • @baerthegamer3366
    @baerthegamer3366 Před rokem +7

    This was very satisfying to watch!
    Screw those CZcams "satisfying" videos, this is peak satisfaction!

  • @pictureplanet1
    @pictureplanet1 Před rokem +19

    Time for some more cursed topology.

  • @williamthomasmi10
    @williamthomasmi10 Před rokem +3

    The editing at 3:50 was very clever; Felt like a hint built into the game or from games like Monsters Expedition etc. Insightful but not too revealing.

  • @trueblueflare
    @trueblueflare Před rokem +6

    Being really good with visual thinking I think I'd be hella good at this. Just watching it the solution usually clicks in my head very quickly.

  • @salmonbamminfish2925
    @salmonbamminfish2925 Před rokem +3

    Amazing start. Give in to the impulsive thoughts

  • @GenTheFurredArtist
    @GenTheFurredArtist Před rokem +6

    Woah. Whoever edited this, they did a great job. And damn that game looks satisfying.

    • @raymondarrington5339
      @raymondarrington5339 Před rokem

      It’s in the description: BenBenRanger

    • @GenTheFurredArtist
      @GenTheFurredArtist Před rokem

      @@raymondarrington5339
      I didn't say I didn't know. I was simply complimenting their editing work.

  • @TheBobmBoy
    @TheBobmBoy Před rokem +3

    THAT CUT IN THE INTRO 🤣

  • @aemorion
    @aemorion Před rokem +1

    3:08 Is the fact that tyler can Understand how the checkerboard patterns relate To another pattern, lends credence to his intelligence

  • @Thiefwriter
    @Thiefwriter Před rokem +1

    The editor is the absolute GOAT, incredible work helping visualize Tyler's thought process

  • @starlightkristal9856
    @starlightkristal9856 Před rokem +1

    This game is the most satifying thing I've ever seen

  • @DukeChameleon
    @DukeChameleon Před rokem +2

    Shoutout to mr Editor for helping us understand Tyler's thought process

  • @dackid2831
    @dackid2831 Před rokem +2

    Wow. It's seriously impressive to see you work through these puzzles.

  • @Scratchydoesmusic
    @Scratchydoesmusic Před 8 měsíci

    4:17 "it's a little small" i'm sure it has a good personality

  • @SonorianBnS
    @SonorianBnS Před rokem +2

    this is such a mesmerizing game to watch

  • @pablorepetto7804
    @pablorepetto7804 Před rokem +3

    Wow, this game looks amazing! And even seeing the solutions I can't quite follow them, it feels like a magic trick!

  • @itsmhtaab6922
    @itsmhtaab6922 Před rokem +1

    this game is absolutely amazing
    please make more videos of this one

  • @terdragontra8900
    @terdragontra8900 Před rokem +1

    thanks for showing this game to me, i love it. if you beat all the extra levels too, id be impressed!

  • @Gihntemos
    @Gihntemos Před rokem +3

    I've done a couple years of 3d modeling from a more engineering perspective, like AutoCAD, SolidWorks, and FreeCAD. It's strange how similar this game is to some of those concepts, mainly the idea of projecting a shape across a line. I.e. to get a cylinder you project a circle across a line, as this adds depth to a circle. To make a spring you just coil the line, to make a donut you coil it on itself (or make a circle project down a bit then cut a hole in the middle then fillet because you're more of a chaotic neutral sort)
    Having said that it's also weird because a lot of the time my brain is just going "I know how to make this shape, but the tools doesn't exist"

    • @Gihntemos
      @Gihntemos Před rokem +1

      To be clear, a lot of the concepts from this game are indeed used to make real complex parts, as well as simulations for them to be tested. Of course it's a fair bit easier in reality, thankfully.
      Also I never ended up going into the field, but I do still have a fair bit of skill in FreeCAD.

  • @cynicalmoose19
    @cynicalmoose19 Před rokem +1

    This game is such a trip to watch. I can only imagine what went into coding it

  • @BinaryArmorOnline
    @BinaryArmorOnline Před rokem +2

    This is my favorite game on this channel since Baba

  • @JustAnotherCommenter
    @JustAnotherCommenter Před rokem +2

    7:01 Binocular-looking shape looking like Apple's Vision Pro 💀💀💀

  • @aba3220
    @aba3220 Před rokem +1

    So satisfying! Would love to see more of this!

  • @mercymakesmemoist8560
    @mercymakesmemoist8560 Před rokem +1

    Absolutely incredible editing, thank you BenBen

  • @lwcky8929
    @lwcky8929 Před rokem +2

    Had to go and watch the first episode of this series i somehow missed, this seems like a really cool game! Excited for more

  • @FrancoisTremblay
    @FrancoisTremblay Před rokem +2

    I imagine programming the algorithms that figure out if your shape is "close enough" to the target was the hardest thing to do.

    • @XxdevlinxX
      @XxdevlinxX Před rokem

      It probably uses photographic processing to give it a percentage of how close the players' output is to the real thing

    • @be7256
      @be7256 Před rokem

      i imagine you could overlay slices of the shape you made and the target shape yeah
      then just check how well it overlays to get a % and boom there's your algorithm
      easier said than done obviously

    • @DanLivings
      @DanLivings Před rokem +2

      I don't think you'd actually need to compare the shapes directly to tell if it's close enough.
      How I'd implement this is that I'd store the target shape as a list of transformations rather than the mesh for the shape itself. Then to do the comparison, the game would have to:
      1. Simplify the list of steps that the player performed. For example, stretching a shape and then immediately shrinking it again with no intermediate transformation can be considered the same as doing nothing.
      2. Compare this simplified list to the list for the target shape. Each individual step can have a tolerance for "good enough", which can be as simple as checking the distance between the target shape's position on the grid for that step to the player's shape's position is less than some value (say 0.1 units).
      3. If all steps taken are the same, and each step is within the tolerance, the player passes the level.
      I don't know for sure, but I suspect the actual game does something like this, as it seems to know immediately if you've done it wrong, and only if it's successful is there a delay, which I assume is done for suspense.

  • @klapekzagady2078
    @klapekzagady2078 Před rokem

    8:35 So that's how PB2 springs are made!

  • @abellematheux7632
    @abellematheux7632 Před rokem +1

    For the puzzle at 6:30 :
    I'm a maths student with a passion for maths (so it's cheating) and I immediately recognized the homeomorphism with a torus and the associated deformation, knowing that a torus is the cartesian product of two circles, which gives the solution.

  • @Map71Vette
    @Map71Vette Před 10 měsíci

    This is great exercise for CAD as well. Teaches you how to make complex shapes from primitive ones.

  • @danser_theplayer01
    @danser_theplayer01 Před rokem +1

    Yep that confirms it, topography people are actually agents of the matrix, they can probably turn a doughnut into a shotgun.

  • @WhatsAGoodName42069
    @WhatsAGoodName42069 Před rokem +1

    Great editing again to convey Tyler's mysticism

  • @ppgang9151
    @ppgang9151 Před rokem +1

    love this game! keep the videos going

  • @koifish528
    @koifish528 Před rokem +1

    2:26 that's right. it goes in the square hole.

  • @mehdi5575
    @mehdi5575 Před rokem

    Loved it! Would love to see more it!

  • @Cool_mist
    @Cool_mist Před rokem +1

    Wow the last puzzle. 🤯

  • @ardabaser1349
    @ardabaser1349 Před rokem

    This is very interesting. It feels as if Tyler is trying to solve the puzzles like sort of professional puzzle solver instead of trying to imagine how the transformations would actually work but when the puzzle is very challenging, he starts visualizing the transformations.

  • @qschroed
    @qschroed Před rokem +1

    Low dimensional topology the game, this is so cool

  • @echoes6092
    @echoes6092 Před rokem +1

    This game is AMAZING i love it

  • @Zero102811
    @Zero102811 Před rokem

    Can't sleep without your videos

  • @garvgupta3567
    @garvgupta3567 Před rokem +1

    I already love this game

  • @jamiesnow8190
    @jamiesnow8190 Před rokem

    Thanks for the content!

  • @daffa_fm4583
    @daffa_fm4583 Před rokem +1

    i wonder when he will find out that you can use control to align the shapes

  • @lillianruiz9474
    @lillianruiz9474 Před 11 měsíci +2

    It goes in the square hole… 2:26

  • @AirmanTerror180
    @AirmanTerror180 Před rokem +1

    The return of glasses Tyler!

  • @Awesomekraken677
    @Awesomekraken677 Před rokem

    lmao tyler was so excited to make that joke in the intro

  • @Hlebuw3k
    @Hlebuw3k Před rokem +1

    This game is amazing

  • @dylandepetro4187
    @dylandepetro4187 Před rokem +1

    Honestly, just watching this is satisfying. Lol.

  • @remz94
    @remz94 Před rokem +1

    great game was fun to watch

  • @lanceriossss
    @lanceriossss Před rokem +1

    This games just melts my brain, it's too much for me, loving it tho ❤

  • @spazzydog100
    @spazzydog100 Před rokem +1

    2:26 it goes in the square hole

  • @lolly2621wastaken
    @lolly2621wastaken Před 2 měsíci

    8:19 I think it folded in on itself

  • @GarrettHoward22
    @GarrettHoward22 Před rokem +9

    Day 975 of telling Tyler that he never finished his minecraft series and that he should finish it.

  • @L4Vo5
    @L4Vo5 Před rokem

    This game hurt my head when I played it. It's interesting to see the differences between how I reasoned about some shapes vs how Tyler does it.

  • @seanshepherd1071
    @seanshepherd1071 Před rokem

    Having taken many calculus classes, I really should understand this game a lot better than I do.

  • @HalfBoyHalfGod
    @HalfBoyHalfGod Před rokem

    Can't wait to buy my very own AliensrockTM cups and glasses

  • @aatwob
    @aatwob Před rokem

    Hey tyler! I know you don't usually play more factory-based games but I'd love a Satisfactory playthrough. It's really fun, hope you see this!

  • @akosijj8330
    @akosijj8330 Před rokem

    The donut binoculars made me scream at my screen when I realized it before Tyler did

  • @Schwanton
    @Schwanton Před rokem +1

    Im just imagining this being useful for my engineering classes.

  • @I_Drink_Pepsi_Wrong
    @I_Drink_Pepsi_Wrong Před rokem

    I love this channel

  • @AexisRai
    @AexisRai Před rokem

    godly editing

  • @roundygaming8385
    @roundygaming8385 Před 9 měsíci

    I NEED THIS GAME

  • @Bogdan100pink
    @Bogdan100pink Před rokem

    We need to bring back the timer for puzzle games, it just makes the whole experience better

  • @teddyabbate8828
    @teddyabbate8828 Před rokem

    I like watching you commentate this game

  • @youtubeuniversity3638

    12:10 Prank Cup!

  • @arandomgamer66gamez69
    @arandomgamer66gamez69 Před 10 měsíci

    1:17 this is why i watch aliensrock

  • @toastonry435
    @toastonry435 Před rokem

    I can’t believe I’ve been had like this in the opening

  • @mstarOnYT
    @mstarOnYT Před rokem

    I am now really interested in the internals of that game

  • @remz94
    @remz94 Před rokem

    great video!

  • @isudin
    @isudin Před rokem

    I'm amazed on how you make these shapes, imagine someone like xqc playing this, don't think he'd get over the first two

  • @notbraytonnottran9143
    @notbraytonnottran9143 Před rokem +1

    The intro caught me off so bad lmao

  • @angeloid_
    @angeloid_ Před rokem

    Tyler I typically love following along with the puzzle games you play, it's really fun to try and think on my own and wonder where you'll take it but
    i cant follow this game at ALL i mean HOWW DOES YOUR BRAIN DO THISS

  • @goldlizard9270
    @goldlizard9270 Před rokem

    New Aliensrock video!

  • @vinnykitty1983
    @vinnykitty1983 Před 4 měsíci

    Tyler casually creating a möbius strip while making macaroni

  • @zacharycates5485
    @zacharycates5485 Před rokem +1

    Anyone else getting Dr. Mario “Chill” vibes from the music around the minute mark of the video?

  • @RickMattison314
    @RickMattison314 Před rokem

    Has Tyler ever played Bejeweled? He’s been playing a lot of puzzle games.
    Granted, Bejeweled is not a long series, but he could get some videos out of it.

  • @ExplodingWaffle101
    @ExplodingWaffle101 Před rokem

    tyler: “this doesn’t feel like something i can get just with a cross section”
    also tyler: ends up making the cross section

  • @RedCMonkey
    @RedCMonkey Před 10 měsíci

    He made a flat half donut before 8:34

  • @StarbornCthulhu
    @StarbornCthulhu Před rokem

    Topology is apparently a fun puzzle

  • @roastghost901
    @roastghost901 Před rokem

    This guy is a cube rotator for sure.