Extended Highlights: Stefan Edberg v Andre Agassi | Indian Wells Final 1990

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  • @travelfan70
    @travelfan70 Před 4 lety +52

    Stefan Edberg my all time favourite .. his volleys were like an artisan's craft .. his rivalry with Boris Becker specially on grass was electric .. remember the three finals 1988-90 at Wimbledon .. Tennis was sublime then!!

    • @Federerfan22
      @Federerfan22 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Yes, and such a shame it didn't become four in a row, when he lost in the 1991 semi-finals to Michael Stich, not even losing his serve once in the process (6-4 6-7 6-7 6-7). I still remember him walking up to the net to congratulate Stich, as he was coughing.

    • @travelfan70
      @travelfan70 Před 10 měsíci

      @@Federerfan22 Kudos to you for bringing back the memory.. Now it flashed through my mind as if it happened yesterday. By the way I was 21 in 1991!!
      All the best

    • @Federerfan22
      @Federerfan22 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@travelfan70 Thanks and you're welcome. I was 18 myself. That 1989 French Open final hurt even more, though. I wish he'd won that match, more than any other (Edberg himself does too.)

  • @808Monkseal
    @808Monkseal Před 4 lety +95

    Of all the players from that "Swedish tennis invasion", Edberg was my favorite. Such flow, finesse the way he played.

  • @Machin396
    @Machin396 Před 4 lety +56

    Feels like Agassi is a tennis time traveler, playing against Edberg and then later on his carrers against Federer.

    • @aleksthegreat4130
      @aleksthegreat4130 Před 3 lety +26

      He played Connors(1952) and Nadal(1986) as well,and Connors played(and lost ) to Pancho Gonzales(1928) and Ken Rosewall(1934).

    • @dealerovski82
      @dealerovski82 Před 3 lety +5

      @@aleksthegreat4130 You know your tennis sir.

  • @muccisebastian9300
    @muccisebastian9300 Před 4 lety +42

    To have the precission of Edberg with that flimsy racquet is insane. That shows how much talent he had

    • @skylaxx
      @skylaxx Před 4 lety +9

      C'mon man, by all means no flimsy. This is the legendary pro staff 85. Pretty solid and firm thing. It's one of the racquets with most feel and precision. If I recall correct he was playing Bow Brand natural gut at 25kg. Heaven to play with...

    • @muccisebastian9300
      @muccisebastian9300 Před 4 lety +3

      skylaxx Courts were as fast as paddle courts or even faster back then so to have that precision is still awesome

    • @muccisebastian9300
      @muccisebastian9300 Před 3 lety +3

      ppm120667 Dont confuse power with speed. Carpet pretty much dissapeared and grass is as slow as rebound ace since 2008. Power affects players evenly, surface benefits serve and slice players since the ball goes faster in comparisson

    • @tatsf226
      @tatsf226 Před 3 lety +8

      Tennis lovers all know the racket is ps 85, not flimsy

    • @habodude0530
      @habodude0530 Před 3 lety +1

      @@tatsf226 exactly

  • @pawshands9706
    @pawshands9706 Před 4 lety +33

    Wow! What a great match!. I almost forgot how beautifully Edberg played the game. I first saw him at the U.S. Open when he was just 16 or 17.

  • @hymansahak181
    @hymansahak181 Před 3 lety +46

    Stefan Edberg is the best volleyer of all time. Crisp, smart, talented, textbook. Never out of balance, easy in the eyes smooth volleys, great timing on approaches. Simply perfect.

    • @thomasmedeiros5722
      @thomasmedeiros5722 Před 3 lety +4

      Hyman Sahak Yes Edberg definitely a roll model and perfect example on the technique and tactics of volleys. He has textbook technique. However John McEnroe is an absolute magician with his volley. I don’t know if you could teach his technique or his touch. I have watched him play on grass courts and his soft hands applied spin that kept the ball so low opponents could not hit it or reach it on one bounce. McEnroe is always an unrelenting net rusher. Serve / volley, approach/ volley plus chip and charge on return of service. I would rate Edberg #1 on technique and McEnroe #1 on tactics and touch.

    • @hymansahak181
      @hymansahak181 Před 3 lety +2

      thomas medeiros
      Agreed. If you want to teach a student how to volley, you show Edberg. McEnroe is a special specimen. When he injured his back in 85, he was never the same player and never won another grand slam as he couldn’t split step properly on his volleys anymore. He was playing at 60% capacity which wasn’t enough to win grand slams, especially with players getting better with new equipment and fitness.

    • @rjamesyork
      @rjamesyork Před 2 lety

      I guess there’s a difference from the best technical volley - I think Edberg has a very strong case and is a good role model - versus most effective volleyer - where McEnroe may be superior; but I’d never teach my kid to emulate him. Nobody else, even pros, could get away with not bending their knees.

    • @chrono106
      @chrono106 Před rokem

      Definitely the best volleyer because his groundstrokes look so bad lol. Edberg’s my favorite player, but sometimes when I’m watching these old matches, I think I could take Edberg from the baseline.

    • @hehehehehahahaha2025
      @hehehehehahahaha2025 Před rokem

      @@chrono106 he had a great backhand, but yeah, his forehand wasn't exactly a weapon.

  • @klodbeen5938
    @klodbeen5938 Před 4 lety +26

    Stefan Edberg - my favorite player ever!

  • @skylaxx
    @skylaxx Před 4 lety +8

    Can't get more contrast in play and personality than these two. Great times.

  • @Perebynis
    @Perebynis Před 4 lety +57

    This match sums up the reasons why the 90's were a great era of tennis: It had the greatest serve & volleyers and the greatest counterpunchers. We don't see that battle of the tactics anymore.

    • @chewey3rd
      @chewey3rd Před 4 lety +8

      I couldn't agree with you more. I played college tennis in the 90's in Southern California and also had the opportunity to attend Indian Wells every year. It was the best decade for tennis. SO much variety, I loved it.

    • @chewey3rd
      @chewey3rd Před 4 lety +12

      @Berk Arslan There is no discredit. There was just a much bigger variety of game back in the 90's. Not every player camped out on the baseline, especially at Wimbledon. I miss that serve and volley game so much.

    • @dadsfreetimeclassicgaming1220
      @dadsfreetimeclassicgaming1220 Před 4 lety +4

      greatest serve and volley yes. greatest counters? I dont know about that one.

    • @LinusFeynstein
      @LinusFeynstein Před 4 lety +3

      The question is, whether one of these guys, in the shape and state of game they had here, would be really competitive today. And whether the big players of 2000 til 2020 would have a chance without their modern rackets and strings. i dare say, that the level today is higher.

    • @dspetos
      @dspetos Před 4 lety +3

      Nadal VS Federer??? Have you watched tennis in the last 10 years??? F@#k

  • @LetsBuildThatApp
    @LetsBuildThatApp Před 3 lety +24

    Variety of shots and net play definitely make this game much more enjoyable to watch than most games these days.

    • @g2tennis
      @g2tennis Před 3 lety +2

      0,5x speed compared to today's tennis

    • @LetsBuildThatApp
      @LetsBuildThatApp Před 3 lety +5

      @@g2tennis and yet still more enjoyable

    • @MrPernell27
      @MrPernell27 Před 3 lety +7

      Variety of shots, net play, the use of angles, the mind working. It’s all so much better than today. Now they just knocked the shit out of the ball and make 20 errors is set. It seems like 95% of today’s TENNIS is completely unwatchable. Not even going to mention women’s tennis which is horrible!

    • @thebigmonstaandy6644
      @thebigmonstaandy6644 Před 3 lety +1

      this is interesting match,becaurce they played on slow court

    • @g2tennis
      @g2tennis Před 3 lety

      @@LetsBuildThatApp speak for yourself

  • @parkjoe1
    @parkjoe1 Před 4 měsíci +1

    An era of contrasting and beautiful Tennis

  • @ronbossier5705
    @ronbossier5705 Před 4 lety +9

    In 1990 Andre had not even figured it out yet ! Wish there was some serve and colliers today ! Edbergs backhand volley was amazing

  • @rogifedi1
    @rogifedi1 Před 4 lety +7

    Edberg is - like Agassi - such a legend. No one else except maybe Federer has so much style and destructiveness in his volleys! Thank you for uploading this!

    • @michelez715
      @michelez715 Před 4 lety +1

      Have to disagree re Fed's volleying. Imo, and I go back to remembering the great Aussie and American volleyers, Fed was a terrible volleyer. Fred Stolle said that considering Fed was the no. 1 player in the world at the time, he had never seen a no. 1 player with such weak volleys. He may have improved since then, esp with Edberg for a coach, but he does not compare with natural volleyers, imo.

    • @birdoffire983
      @birdoffire983 Před rokem +1

      @@michelez715 Agreed!
      The last 20 years(2002-2022) have been bereft of at least one serve and volley player of the calibre of an Edberg,Becker,McEnroe or Sampras) .

    • @aaronaragon7838
      @aaronaragon7838 Před rokem +1

      Unless rackets and strings, surfaces, change, we will never see the contrasting styles of Edberg and Agassi again. Pity.

    • @kikaa1884
      @kikaa1884 Před rokem

      Andre Agassi have 8 major titles and Stephan Edberg have 9 major titles in singles and doubles together actually
      Andre Agassi won 1 atp finals title and Stephan Edberg have 3 atp finals titles(Singles+Doubles) actually bro

  • @rocky49able
    @rocky49able Před 4 lety +16

    Stefan Edberg - the last of the great genuine serve and volley greats along with McEnroe. Won matches despite not having a great serve like Becker or Sampras.

    • @hehehehehahahaha2025
      @hehehehehahahaha2025 Před 3 lety +4

      Edberg's serve was very good. Not fast like Becker or Sampras', but he got consistently good spin & kick on the ball that allowed him to get to the net.

    • @stephanesurprenant60
      @stephanesurprenant60 Před rokem

      @@hehehehehahahaha2025 Yes! People should not underestimate the power of movement. Even today, most male players hit kick serves around 90mph -- sometimes even as first serve on the Ad side for right handed players. I can hit a pretty mean one -- not as good as Edberg, obviously -- and regularly get bounces around 5-6 feet at the baseline. The number of bad returns I get off that is pretty big. Even players who are better than me in my doubles league struggle with it.
      No wonder Pat Rafter later said that, had he known earlier, he would have kicked on first serves more often. Movement on the ball really kills a returner's ability to be aggressive all the way up to the top of the game.

  • @Nammuccino
    @Nammuccino Před 3 lety +6

    this match is so intense and I love Stefan keeps really calm with crazy footwork and tatic. Just like federer

  • @rushrush1209
    @rushrush1209 Před 4 lety +22

    Edberg was the best hard court player from 1990 to 1992.

    • @thorstengorges3527
      @thorstengorges3527 Před 4 lety +1

      I dont know every statistic. But in this time Boris Becker was my favorite in these years. He won 3 times against Edberg by 3 games...but Edberg was also one of my favorit players ;)

    • @travelfan70
      @travelfan70 Před 4 lety +1

      Yes two U.S Open titles!!

  • @justbeyourself8515
    @justbeyourself8515 Před 4 lety +23

    Edberg at the net = trouble for the player across the net (no matter who you are)

  • @pier70juve
    @pier70juve Před 3 lety +9

    It was incredibly difficult for Edberg to reach the net following his kick serve with Agassi returning well inside baseline: it was the main reason for the end of marvellous serve and volley style of play. See how many times Edberg is forced to stay at baseline after 2nd and also 1st serve, it's quite atypical for his aggressive style of play.
    That 1990 was a big turning point: Agassi and Edberg faced also in Lipton Key Biscayne final a week later (won Agassi in 4 sets) and twice at the Maters (ATP finals) in Frankfurt (1 win for each player but Agassi won the final in 4 sets). It was a very even battle, but in the years to come the odds were all against Edberg and his serve and volley. Amazing how Edberg succeeded to win two US Open in 1991 and 1992, when his game was already packaged to be put in the history of this sport. He succeeded because...1) he didn't meet Agassi; 2) he played "in paradise" in 1991 and 3) he was a true survivor in 1992, where he risked to go out every time from 4th round to the SF. In final he was lucky with a very bad version of Pete Sampras, a player that always suffered Edberg, anyway.

    • @stephanesurprenant60
      @stephanesurprenant60 Před rokem

      Sampras successfully played SV during the whole 90s. Agassi was a monster at service return -- I think he probably would have had the balls of returning guys like Karlovic or Roanic sitting on the baseline and would have made it work.
      One of the things that killed SV is some courts slowed down. Faster surfaces (grass and indoor carpet) are also not a big part of the ATP tour, so there isn't a huge space for aggressive players to earn, say, a top 20 spot. Another thing is that head sizes went up. Most of your game as a SV is forcing a bad contact on the return so that you get some cheaper volleys to make. That's how Edberg did it -- he almost never flattened the ball because movement really kills. Well, 100 si is wildly more forgivable than 85 si. If the ATP said we're shrinking max head size down to 85, we might see a change in tactic.
      Another possibilities is that culture may be playing a role. We don't have a clean experiment in front of our eyes and some of the no one plays SV anymore may be that players' don't have the volleys and instinct to do it anymore. If no one teaches it, practices it at lower levels, etc. you're having a very small pool of talent from which to draw the one guy who could do it if it was possible. Sampras did speak to this in the 2010s and he said he believed his game would have had a chance to make him competitive even today. Maybe.
      But, besides pros, that game is definitely viable for amateurs. If you can hit a decent kick serve reliably, you'll get less than ideal returns floating and you can kill that. Amateurs aren't professionals and it's WAY easier to hit your good serve with plenty of top spin than it is to return it when you don't practice enough.

  • @inquisitor4635
    @inquisitor4635 Před 3 lety +2

    Edberg's serve and volley, net play and drop shots. Beautiful.

  • @Dr1n1an
    @Dr1n1an Před 3 lety +5

    Those times were great times. What a clash of styles. Great match!

  • @Luis33371
    @Luis33371 Před 4 lety +78

    I miss those times when tennis was more tactic than power...

  • @TheEJ1408
    @TheEJ1408 Před 4 lety +29

    Edberg is the best volley player of all time. What an elegant style

    • @travelfan70
      @travelfan70 Před 4 lety +1

      Agreed

    • @KingCast65
      @KingCast65 Před 3 lety +2

      McEnroe.

    • @ml_gamer8344
      @ml_gamer8344 Před 3 lety +2

      @@KingCast65 yes

    • @KingCast65
      @KingCast65 Před 3 lety

      @@ml_gamer8344 Like the way he would contort his body to make sure the racket face was where it needed to be is just flat out ridiculous. Even here.... czcams.com/video/oM-GPHFF4FI/video.html

    • @Luca33600
      @Luca33600 Před 3 lety

      @@KingCast65 no. McEnroe made so many mistakes at easy points. And Edberg was faster and just better

  • @halleck3
    @halleck3 Před 4 lety +51

    Incredible match. Agassi on the rise here and you can tell how good he's going to get. Edberg's serve wasn't the hardest by far, and his forehand was suspect. But the man was a force of nature at the net. When he got there it was generally over.

    • @billcook5132
      @billcook5132 Před 3 lety +2

      Edberg's serve had good pace and tremendous kick. I saw him live at the Hamlet Cup on Long Island.

    • @halleck3
      @halleck3 Před 3 lety

      @@billcook5132 Yes, great kick on that.

    • @benparsons4979
      @benparsons4979 Před 3 lety

      generally

    • @th8257
      @th8257 Před 3 lety +2

      Many of the great serve and volley players didn't aim for massive flat first serves - many played with a lot of spin on the serve. The idea being that a slightly slower serve would give them time to follow it in to the net, and the spin would force a weak return that would leave an easy volley. In Edberg's case (and Pat Rafter's), it was the kick on their serves that was hard to deal with and slowed the ball down just enough to allow them to get in behind it. In the case of players like Navratilova and McEnroe, it was the lefty slice serve out wide.

    • @halleck3
      @halleck3 Před 3 lety +2

      @@th8257 Yes. If Edberg had a harder first serve, he would've been a step short on his way to the net. The one he used was quite apt for his game.

  • @xxxs8309
    @xxxs8309 Před 3 lety +7

    Incredible match by Edberg!

  • @JaNeZoKu
    @JaNeZoKu Před 5 lety +35

    Lovely tennis! Much more interesting and versatile than nowadays 30-shots baseline rallies only.

  • @luclatour9827
    @luclatour9827 Před 4 lety +7

    fantastic stephan edberg!!!!!

  • @suatkayatennis
    @suatkayatennis Před 4 lety +22

    Borg the superstar inspired thousands of Swedish children to take up tennis instead of ice hockey, soccer or skiing.
    As a result of this we saw greats like Wilander,Edberg,Järryd, Sundström,Nyström, Carlsson etc succed at the tennis tour and Edberg & Wilander was my favorite players.
    From 1974 to 1992, Swedish men won 24 of the 76 Grand Slam events, just one fewer than the 25 won by American men in that stretch. A Swedish man won at least one major title in all but two of those years, and Sweden won the Davis Cup four times. In 1988, Swedes swept all four majors, with Edberg winning Wimbledon and Wilander claiming the other three. Apart from the Australian Rod Laver’s victories in all four majors in 1969, the Swedish sweep in 1988 stands as the only time in the Open era in which one country ran the table.

  • @nintendo64isking
    @nintendo64isking Před 4 lety +11

    edbergs half volleys, beautiful

  • @JiraiyaSama86
    @JiraiyaSama86 Před 4 lety +16

    Never really noticed till this video, but it seems Edberg was one of the few to really open up on his backhand. Very reminiscent of Wawrinka and Thiem’s backhand in the way he finishes with his chest open. I can see why he said he’d still prefer his backhand to Federer when he was coaching him.

    • @rajeshv2466
      @rajeshv2466 Před 4 lety +2

      Edberg backhand was stronger than his forehand as per me. What do you say sir?

    • @JiraiyaSama86
      @JiraiyaSama86 Před 4 lety

      Rajesh V as per me? Huh?

    • @rajeshv2466
      @rajeshv2466 Před 4 lety +1

      @@JiraiyaSama86
      Dear shockwave. Just interested to know your opinion on edberg forehand vs back hand. His game had a priceless beauty which is missing in current era of raw power and over sized rackets

    • @JiraiyaSama86
      @JiraiyaSama86 Před 4 lety +3

      Rajesh V I definitely prefer his backhand over his forehand. As for his game, at this point, I feel it’s a bit wrong to compare eras. Each era should have its own place and be appreciated for what it is. Despite the prevalence of power hitters and baseliners, there are actually different varieties of power hitters. You have some who mix it up with some flair. You have some who hit incredibly well on the run. Topspin vs flat hitters. You even have some notable players that aren’t predominantly hard hitters like Simon, Medvedev. Even now, you have a younger generation with a few that’s trying to add something to the mix. Overall, you just have to find a way to appreciate each Era.
      If I want some more classic matches with serve volley and other specialists, I’ll look more to McEnroe and Edberg Era. If I want more gladiatorial matches, I look to the modern Era.

    • @rajeshv2466
      @rajeshv2466 Před 4 lety +2

      @@JiraiyaSama86
      Thank you very much for your wonderful summary of old and current era. I still love tennis and there is a different kind of beauty in modern tennis. My mind is still clinging to old school serve and volley as I started watching tennis from that point. It was nice interacting with you. Wish you an enjoyable time!

  • @sssimon6156
    @sssimon6156 Před 3 lety +8

    Edberg is a great volleyer!

  • @KingCast65
    @KingCast65 Před 4 lety +32

    Epic match. I love it. Back before strings and rackets newer techniques allowed for so much pace that you could actually have contrasting styles of play. I love 'em both but glad Edberg won LOL.

    • @s3b11980
      @s3b11980 Před 4 lety

      Christopher King Strings and Rackets arent better today. Its called marketing. Fitness is better and Balls/Courts are slower today.

    • @muccisebastian9300
      @muccisebastian9300 Před 4 lety

      Sebastian Hirschberg Raquets are way more powerfull because of materials, strings and head size. Do you even play tennis?

    • @s3b11980
      @s3b11980 Před 4 lety +1

      @@muccisebastian9300 yes, i play and you know that pro players still play rackets from 1995? for instance murray plays a racket from 1995 and dont forget, that agassi there played oversize already, so thats not an argument. and djokovic is playing a racket from 1999...so get ur facts real first ;)

    • @muccisebastian9300
      @muccisebastian9300 Před 4 lety

      Sebastian Hirschberg Djokovic uses the head graphene 360, and even if you were right those are two monster players, they could play with a frying pan if they wanted to.

    • @s3b11980
      @s3b11980 Před 4 lety

      @@muccisebastian9300 He isnt using the Graphene, no top pro is using what he is advertising. Djokovic is using a realy old mold from ti radical mp. Again: what changed are the balls and the courts. And of course the fitneslevels of the players.

  • @rogerpersson5311
    @rogerpersson5311 Před 4 lety +4

    Great match and nice rallys from both Edberg and Agassi.

  • @aemiliadelroba4022
    @aemiliadelroba4022 Před rokem +1

    Wow 🤩
    Edberg was such a beautiful player .

  • @slihb
    @slihb Před 4 lety +10

    At his best, it felt like Edberg was playing shots with a blindfold on. Look how connected the racquet is

  • @ryanphototech
    @ryanphototech Před rokem +1

    Great match. Both are top level player and fantastic sportsmen.

  • @jeffwads6158
    @jeffwads6158 Před 4 lety +5

    1:38. What a pickup!!

  • @DanHunterSportsWriter
    @DanHunterSportsWriter Před 4 lety +8

    What a great match!! Edberg and Agassi proving a perfect foil for each other. Stefan was world no.1 at that time, on merit. Agassi would eventually take their head-to-head 6-3.

    • @birdoffire983
      @birdoffire983 Před 11 měsíci

      Edberg's peak years were from 1985-1992.
      Agassi was a force as early as 88' with only Wilander and Lendl stopping him at Roland Garros and Flushing Meadow respectively.
      But in that period of 85 to 92 , Edberg had a 3-3 H-H against Andre'.
      Amazingly, Edberg and Agassi did not play their first official match until 1989 despite both being on the tour as early as 1983/84 for Stefan and 1985/86 for Andre'.
      To be fair they did play 3 exibition matches in 1988-89 with Agassi winning all 3.
      One of these exibitions has surfaced on youtube:
      czcams.com/video/1HdFV6dBlIM/video.html
      But ways more variety back then.....out and out serve and volley against a slugger.....that's what modern tennis misses now.
      Now it's baseline all the way.......or serve and baseline.....until you can come in for a winning volley.
      Playing at their peak, Becker,Edberg,McEnroe and Sampras would have taken chunks out of the "big 3"'s 60 slams.

  • @paulaymericrodrigues9000

    Edberg my favorite player 😍Forever .
    Agassi the greatest returner

  • @rsmith02
    @rsmith02 Před rokem +1

    Just a great match from start to finish. Agassi didn't yet have as big a serve as he would but the hustle was there. Beautifully played by Edberg.

  • @sumanadas4445
    @sumanadas4445 Před 3 lety +1

    Stefan Edberg is my all time favourite..

  • @SadisticRyoBand
    @SadisticRyoBand Před 3 lety +1

    This was the era that classic tennis was turning to modern strong gland stroke style.So there were various playing style and shots. It was very fun to watch.

  • @sdborn8667
    @sdborn8667 Před 5 lety +1

    Thank you finally extended highlights. Can you please always upload extended, not short

  • @kennethmoh9042
    @kennethmoh9042 Před 12 dny

    What a tennis. Brilliant.

  • @JustOdie
    @JustOdie Před 4 lety +20

    15:22 Sneak attack by Stefan, hehe.

    • @DanielBoonelight
      @DanielBoonelight Před 3 lety +1

      the SABS! he does it 2 or 3 times here...

    • @pier70juve
      @pier70juve Před 3 lety +1

      @@DanielBoonelight Also in the second match point 🤣

  • @ronciego9249
    @ronciego9249 Před 3 lety +3

    For the beginners, or casual tennis fans, Stefan Edbergs volleys and half volleys may look ordinary or unremarkable, but if you've played this game for quite some time, they are just as awesome as a Federer inside-out forehand

  • @martingimenez339
    @martingimenez339 Před 5 lety +11

    Andre and Pete were without a doubt the link between old tennis and new tennis. They came from classic slow paced strokes and they quickly adapted and improved their game by hitting faster and heavier balls. One from the net, the other one from the base line. Edberg was close to that modern improved tennis but he was the last of his era and he didn't finish making the jump. A genius playing over the net, ultimately overpassed by his younger pals.

    • @userdjee834
      @userdjee834 Před 5 lety +3

      Agassi yes, brought new game style and evolved it wonderfully. Sampras no, Becker did that 6-7 years before Sampras. Others were there, Ivanišević, Krajicek etc. Pete just did it quite a bit better and more consistently that the rest of the generation, but his type of game was already well developed before he arrived to the scene.

    • @nicedoggy2744
      @nicedoggy2744 Před 5 lety

      yes edberg is really a touch player. this is an unusual hard court match in that era; the court is slow and the balls are heavy, which means you get to see him rally from the back with agassi. most of the time when hes at the back, lots of topspin off the forehand (perhaps the worst forehand for a world no.1) trying to outmanoeuvre agassi/zero in on an approach shot

    • @martingimenez339
      @martingimenez339 Před 5 lety

      @@userdjee834 I wasn't talking about this type of game. I was talking about the game that came immediately after this. Where Courier and Becker were already slow. Andre kept accelerating and also Sampras with that serve and that improved all around the court game.

    • @userdjee834
      @userdjee834 Před 5 lety +1

      @@martingimenez339 Me neither, I was talking about Sampras' game. And Becker's, and Ivanišević's, and Krajicek's. That type of game arrived when Becker won Wimbledon in '85 and defended the title in '86. Important detail were then newer generation graphite racquets that made it all possible. Pete Sampras was truly great at it, the best clearly, but he didn't invent it. Bum-Bum Becker was the first there, and he also followed and learned from those before him, of course.

    • @martydav9475
      @martydav9475 Před 4 lety

      @ppm120667 Well said. I'm always telling those who say today's tennis is better, faster, more athletic etc (it's usually Fed/Nadal/Djokovic fanboys who have seen little, if any, tennis before this era) to watch the whole of that magnificent ATP Masters Final in Hanover between Boris Becker and Pete Sampras in 1996. It is simply one of the great matches, played at unrelenting pace and with magnificent skill.It is as good as anything we see today, 25 years later.(They don't watch it of course because they have closed minds and fixed opinions.)

  • @jkj1459
    @jkj1459 Před rokem

    I NEVER SAW EDBERG LOSING TEMPER . WHAT GENTILE MAN . ACTUALLY IAM FAN OF BOTH THESE PLAYERS .

  • @McGradey
    @McGradey Před 5 lety +6

    That kit Agassi's wearing is easily the best tennis kit ever. Love the Nike Air Tech Challenge IIs from this kit.

    • @WONGLER
      @WONGLER Před 5 lety

      Exactly, People are selling that nice one in ebay for 1000 Dollars, lol

    • @jliang70
      @jliang70 Před 5 lety +1

      What kit are you referring? The one he wore on the head?

    • @McGradey
      @McGradey Před 5 lety

      John Liang kit = outfit

    • @jliang70
      @jliang70 Před 5 lety +1

      @@McGradey So the wig is not considered as part of that outfit...

    • @McGradey
      @McGradey Před 5 lety +1

      John Liang I can’t believe you’ve done this

  • @chantaldesiree1393
    @chantaldesiree1393 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Missing an option in youtube to change the picture format to 4:3, since this is obviously the proper aspect ratio of this video. It's close but still slightly stretched.. ^_^

  • @tabscoobrealestate6061
    @tabscoobrealestate6061 Před 3 lety +1

    Stefan magistral!!! un gran idolo de los 90s

  • @80sguy27
    @80sguy27 Před rokem

    My favorite Edberg. His serve n volley and brilliant backhand remains etched in my memory.

  • @850617and
    @850617and Před 3 lety +32

    Id rather watch this match than a Djokovic Nadal "hit til you bleed" contest.

  • @gmnboss
    @gmnboss Před 3 lety +1

    Agassi foot speed in this game is spectacular

  • @loKo_LoLo
    @loKo_LoLo Před 4 lety +10

    What I really liked and wish back from this era: no excessive grunting and they did not need a towel after every point... but had to fix the strings after every point... i can live with that .)

  • @AlonsoRules
    @AlonsoRules Před 3 lety +3

    These courts are so fast

  • @aaronaragon7838
    @aaronaragon7838 Před rokem +1

    The players today are bigger and hit, serve, harder...but tennis in the 80s and 90s was far more interesting. Nothing now like
    Edberg vs Agassi. Serve n Volley/Back-courter.

  • @samuelfernandez397
    @samuelfernandez397 Před 4 lety

    Wow. What a match Man!!!👍👍👍👏👏👏

  • @Lev_Vasiliev
    @Lev_Vasiliev Před 5 lety +2

    Legendary

  • @th8257
    @th8257 Před 4 lety +2

    Very clever play by Agassi at times, pushing Edberg back and away from the net with those moonballs.

  • @hehehehehahahaha2025
    @hehehehehahahaha2025 Před 3 lety +1

    Edberg had one of the most beautiful 1HBHs ever. That forehand, though.........

  • @tigerbalm666
    @tigerbalm666 Před 5 lety +24

    Stephen had the most popular shirts...

  • @masters.1000
    @masters.1000 Před 5 lety +3

    The good old days.
    Even the courts looks better back then.

  • @futarydary
    @futarydary Před 5 lety

    That high-spin-moonball-to-opponents-backhand-side tactic worked very well.

  • @peterbedford2610
    @peterbedford2610 Před 8 měsíci +1

    When tennis had variety

  • @Fontsman
    @Fontsman Před 4 lety +12

    Agassi's hyper mullet must've slowed him down.

    • @jeffreytrenton
      @jeffreytrenton Před 4 lety +1

      Billowing in the desert wind

    • @hughmac13
      @hughmac13 Před 4 lety +2

      Heresy. The rear-projecting mullet probably helps encourage laminar flow.

    • @rickr.3558
      @rickr.3558 Před 4 lety +1

      It was a hairpiece. He talked about it in his autobiography.

    • @Fontsman
      @Fontsman Před 4 lety

      Herpes? No wonder his game was erratic.

  • @octavianamechi2846
    @octavianamechi2846 Před 3 lety +3

    I see Federer's game watching Edberg

  • @petergiokaris7281
    @petergiokaris7281 Před 5 lety +4

    Thanks for the upload and trip down memory lane. Had to laugh at Agassi employing the same dependable tactics as your 4.0 weekend hack - hit moonballs to your opponents backhand.

    • @chuckfriebe843
      @chuckfriebe843 Před 4 lety

      Much like watching old men slice every shot and then they are rated 5.0.

  • @sandrotheking3423
    @sandrotheking3423 Před 2 lety

    sublime edberg!!! 💙💙💙

  • @thomassonefors9281
    @thomassonefors9281 Před 3 lety +2

    Here you can see how tennis evolves and the obvious inspiration Edberg has had on Federer especially on the backhand. But the technique of Edbergs volley can only be compared to Dustin Brown and perhaps Federer. I get nervous every time Edberg hits a forehand but that backhand wow.

    • @pier70juve
      @pier70juve Před 3 lety

      Dustin Brown is a very good volleyer but Edberg is a legend of this game, serve and volley GOAT, chip and charge GOAT, backhand GOAT, backhand volley GOAT... #1 in both single and double... so Stefan cannot be compared to a very good player who reached his best ranking at #64...

  • @jkj1459
    @jkj1459 Před rokem

    WHAT A GREAT CHAMPIONS BOTH ONLY ONE POINT DIFFERENCE .. IT COULD GO EITHER WAY BUT SOMETIMES KEEPING COOL HEAD WINS .

  • @dellecapacitailcoraggiofis7536

    i started to love tennis cause of colored shirts of Agassi ) its incredible how slower was the game, after 2000 as soon as the balls bounces a bit higher the point is over

    • @inquisitor4635
      @inquisitor4635 Před 3 lety

      I believe there was some drama over Agassi wearing something other than traditional white. Maybe a problem with Wimbledon not allowing it.

  • @BrunoSilvaRox
    @BrunoSilvaRox Před 5 lety +3

    Wouldn’t it be great to see more top acroon from the 90’s?!? Thanks

  • @berndv9133
    @berndv9133 Před 4 lety +2

    geil. das war noch tennis

  • @romcallis
    @romcallis Před 4 lety +6

    Agassi playing with Donnay Pro One

    • @danielvictorcassidy8091
      @danielvictorcassidy8091 Před 4 lety +1

      He wrote in his book that he just had his oversize prince racquets painted to look like the Donnays that were being sold

  • @jasonbloom2144
    @jasonbloom2144 Před 2 lety

    Edberg best volleyer I’ve ever seen. McEnroe also great volleyer but his was the combination of that crazy serve he had

  • @miguelalejandrocardosonava5156

    Edberg y Federer los más grandes.

  • @mickkimmings6186
    @mickkimmings6186 Před 3 lety +1

    That sound of hard Court. I could go to sleep it

  • @marinavisa1101
    @marinavisa1101 Před 5 lety +1

    Beide sehr gut 👍👍👍

  • @steveturner609
    @steveturner609 Před 4 lety +4

    Still say that fellow Andre Agassi had the greatest return of Serve of all time - on an equal par with Novak Djokovic!

    • @martydav9475
      @martydav9475 Před 4 lety +2

      Agreed.It was even better than Djokovic's.It would often come back like a rocket.

    • @Perebynis
      @Perebynis Před 4 lety +2

      Djokovic might have a higher percentage at returning serves but Agassi's was more spectacular. He hit countless winners on return of serve.

    • @suatkayatennis
      @suatkayatennis Před 4 lety +6

      Agassi had great eye-hand coordination, and had the ability to pick the ball up easier than anyone. He moved into the return and drove it back hard, sometimes harder than the serve itself.
      Andre Agassi won 55.78% of second serve return points (second in the all-time standings after Berasategui). He has also won 31.69% of the return games he played.
      Court speed was quicker back then (although in the latter years the difference was much less) and the servers he faced - Sampras, Becker, Krajicek,Stich,Edberg, Ivanisevic, McEnroe and Federer.
      IMO, Agassi id the greatest returner of all time. Djoko is nearly as great, has better reach, and hits better when reaching. So, overall, it's very close. But, for any ball that Agassi can get good stick on, he's the best.

  • @jonathanchen1026
    @jonathanchen1026 Před 4 lety +9

    @6:38 😭🤣🤣

  • @Ykpaina988
    @Ykpaina988 Před 5 lety +5

    These 90s guys played like every point counted and were suprisingly light given the weight of the hair

  • @sagarkoduri
    @sagarkoduri Před 5 lety +17

    the game seems strangely slow -- were the courts that much slower?

    • @georgedadon
      @georgedadon Před 5 lety +10

      Hard courts have gradually been speeded up every year. Some hard courts like Cincinnati are about the same speed as grass now. Back then grass was very fast, hards were average and clay was extremely slow. Grass has been slowed down a bit now by cutting the grass much shorter, hards have been speeded up, clay has also been speeded up a bit more, in RG sometimes it plays like a hard court with less watering and less loose clay on top of the solid layer. All courts have less disparity of speeds now.

    • @JayJay-bz8gz
      @JayJay-bz8gz Před 5 lety +9

      No, they weren't slower. These days Indian Wells and Miami are pretty much the slowest hard courts on tour. Canada, Cincinnati and the US Open have never been slower than they were in 2018. Also many indoor tournaments are medium speed these days. In the 90's indoors were very fast carpet courts. Also the US hard court swing was faster back then. Many players like Courier, Muster, Murray, Federer, Hewitt have also said the same thing.

    • @userdjee834
      @userdjee834 Před 5 lety +4

      Courts weren't slower, but racquets were much flexier, less stable than today, and heavier. Strings were softer as well, because that goes into that kind of frame, natural gut. Wonderful video. Edberg was my fave when I was a kid..

    • @nicedoggy2744
      @nicedoggy2744 Před 5 lety

      ​@@georgedadon Take a look at the mecir v noah final in the same event, 1989. or lipton 1987. It seems a lot slower here for seem reason and the balls seems really heavy this tournament. perhaps it rained a lot before the final here in 1990.

    • @hesch-tag
      @hesch-tag Před 5 lety

      Times have changed. Edberg was my idol and I thought he was so good ( he was of course) but if you look at his backhand and compare it to Wawrinka's it is day and night. Had he played now, he would have adapted of course but I didn't think it was so much slower.

  • @8020Alive
    @8020Alive Před 5 lety

    The ball was so light back then...look at it bounce.

  • @jamesraisch7783
    @jamesraisch7783 Před 4 lety +5

    Half the comments are these guys would get killed today the other half are Oh I miss the good old days when there was real tennis. Seems no one can just appreciate tennis from multiple areas. Or at least respect it even if you don't like it

    • @michaeldean5202
      @michaeldean5202 Před 4 lety +1

      Thank you for that comment. I find myself irritated by so many statements that don't seem to truly understand the game of tennis. Seems also, no one remembers Agassi made a fine showing in the final of the 2005 U.S. Open against Federer, and did well until the 4th set when Federer magic took over. One of the things I enjoyed while watching this video, was remembering just how differently Agassi played in those days. His game continually evolved, and within a few years, he wasn't playing anything like what we see in this match against Edberg. As for Edberg, while his volleying was always a wonder to behold, I don't think he was able to change/evolve his game in order to stay around a few more years. I miss watching both of them.

  • @Angelo-9
    @Angelo-9 Před 3 lety

    che giocatore Stefan,che signore.
    dopo Connors,il mio preferito.

  • @horrorfan24
    @horrorfan24 Před 5 lety +13

    Edberg really was the best volley player in history. It's amazing he won as much as he did considering his serve wasn't that good and neither was his FH or BH. Just an absolute master tactician. Incredible.

    • @renatoyap
      @renatoyap Před 5 lety +14

      I would agree on his FH, that was a horrendous looking stroke. However with respect, I disagree on his BH. That was a shot of beauty. His serve during the early years wasn't a Becker or a Sampras booming weapon, but it had a wicked kick which allowed Edberg to move in for his Volleys. During the later stages of his career, his serve wasn't as effective as he lost speed coming in . The advancement of racket and string tech didn't help Edberg's game too.

    • @nicedoggy2744
      @nicedoggy2744 Před 5 lety +2

      @@renatoyap yes you make some good points. edberg didn't have the firepower of a becker, even though he had a pretty bh, he was really a touch player. which is why he didn't do well against the likes of courier.

    • @Robin-ju3wc
      @Robin-ju3wc Před 5 lety +3

      No wonder Edberg being the idol of Federer..both playing in similar style..both use same slicing technique to return the serve..😙

    • @nicedoggy2744
      @nicedoggy2744 Před 5 lety +2

      @@Robin-ju3wc yes though sampras also returned serve that way. I would say federer's style is more similar to sampras; federer, unliked edberg, is not hampered by a lack of firepower

    • @muriloborges9481
      @muriloborges9481 Před 5 lety +5

      As the great competitor with Lendl against my idol Boris Becker, Edberg was fantastic to watch....his volley is probably the best.
      Look at YToube to Edberg-Becker semis of RG...what a match it was...we don't have it anymore.

  • @jkj1459
    @jkj1459 Před rokem

    THAT WAS A FANTASTIC BLOCK FROM EDBERG . NOW A DAYS SOME PLAYERS CRYING WHEN THE OTHER PLAYERS GO FOR BODY SHOT . EDBERG REFLEXES ARE SO GOOD HE WOULD NOT COMPLAINT. HE IS A PANTHER AT NET

  • @lucu01
    @lucu01 Před 2 lety

    one of the times Stefan beat Agassi, Agassi has a career edge winning 6 losing 3; great throwback match

  • @jon-quijano
    @jon-quijano Před 2 lety

    I considered serve and volleyers arrogant back then, and I was just a kid.
    The demise of the serve and volley strategy, and net rushing in general, vindicates my feelings from that time.

  • @saurabhrathi301
    @saurabhrathi301 Před 3 lety

    Beauty....

  • @rolfbernserke4735
    @rolfbernserke4735 Před 9 měsíci

    Toupee was in full effect

  • @claynails4391
    @claynails4391 Před rokem

    Agassi essentially had 2 careers. In the first he was a colorful clown with a great forehand. In the second he was a machine, the fittest player on tour with an assassins killer instinct. It was then that he became a legend.

  • @billthestinker
    @billthestinker Před 4 lety +2

    WOW forgot how great they were

  • @stonepucon
    @stonepucon Před 3 lety

    que grip tenia edberg para su derecha? muy rara

  • @jeffhermida4788
    @jeffhermida4788 Před 4 lety

    Amazing how much the game has changed besides racquet tech. Today most top 20 players would have round around backhand and hit inside out. Agassi adapted to this tactic.

    • @outatime16
      @outatime16 Před 4 lety +1

      it was agassi who actually started that style and the upcoming players copied him

  • @criticalmass500
    @criticalmass500 Před 4 lety +4

    Pathetic how slow the courts are now

    • @JK-vc7ie
      @JK-vc7ie Před 3 lety

      Why is it pathetic? It’s just different. Some prefer faster. Some prefer slower. Personally I like slower. You have to earn your points. Nothing comes free.

  • @baladinbaladin2549
    @baladinbaladin2549 Před 4 lety

    Pour moi le meilleur

  • @Jaz_13-fg1bx
    @Jaz_13-fg1bx Před 11 měsíci

    Edberg had a terrible forehand.. I'm surprised he was able to not get exposed more on that wing.. Guess he volleyed a lot so managed to minimise the risk

  • @anseinueseima408
    @anseinueseima408 Před rokem

    First time seeing Agassi rage 15:43

  • @TennisOnAction
    @TennisOnAction Před 3 lety

    Normal practice hitting back to each other won’t be able to play like this type of game with so many unpredictable shots with varieties.