Worth Spending 2 Grand?? TPI to Carb Conversion - GasGas Dirt bike

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  • čas přidán 9. 03. 2023
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    Tyler and I go through the process of changing this 2023 GasGas EX300 TPI motor to a carbureted version of itself. This is an extensive process and costs around 2 thousand dollars give or take. The main reason we did this was to make the most unique bike possible. GasGas (while owned by KTM) never had a carbureted 300 two stroke, so this is a unicorn of a bike in every way.
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Komentáře • 88

  • @austingeolex6663
    @austingeolex6663 Před rokem +2

    You guys are amazing 🤩, good job @Tyler 👏

  • @richardhartley7094
    @richardhartley7094 Před rokem

    Great insight to what’s involved in this conversion👍

  • @Chanandkater
    @Chanandkater Před rokem +3

    Something not mentioned is that the carb bikes have more hit overall. It’s pretty common knowledge that’s the tpi is a bit tame compared to the carb. A big deal for a lot of riders. Carb bikes are still more sought after in my opinion. Sweet bike!

  • @208enduro
    @208enduro Před rokem

    So cool. Awesome job Tyler

  • @BSm2919
    @BSm2919 Před rokem +1

    This is such a cool build! I'm crossing my fingers for this one!

  • @JoshuaCussins
    @JoshuaCussins Před 10 měsíci

    makes me happy i have 2019 TX300 w/ lectron, last year of carb 217lbs. beast mode

  • @MP-wc2wh
    @MP-wc2wh Před rokem +2

    What a cool bike and build; you did an excellent job by on this. Someone is going to win this truly sweet bike. I would definitely ride it; that is what it is made for.

  • @boarder989
    @boarder989 Před rokem

    Got my fingers crossed for this

  • @valiant7357
    @valiant7357 Před rokem

    Gorgeous bike

  • @MrFritz6940
    @MrFritz6940 Před rokem +2

    150 hrs on a 2019 tpi and 150 hrs on my 22 tpi. Zero issues

  • @njmxjunkie3128
    @njmxjunkie3128 Před rokem +4

    The tunability is reason enough to convert to carb. Being able to tune on the fly with a 3$ jet vs having to have a company give you some tune they made.

    • @stevedouglas1654
      @stevedouglas1654 Před rokem +1

      Smartcarb and Lectron don’t have jetting. That’s why I put a Smartcarb on my 97 YZ 285. Just has a metering rod inside and a lean / rich knob on top to make fine adjustments out on the trail or track 👍

    • @njmxjunkie3128
      @njmxjunkie3128 Před rokem

      @@stevedouglas1654 I never used the words smartcarb or Lectron. I actually wouldn’t have gone the route he did. I’d have gone with tried and true keihn

  • @markknutson8728
    @markknutson8728 Před rokem +2

    I HAD a 22 gasgas ec300. This would have saved that bike for me! I've had alot of bikes over the last 45 years, and I have to say, this was THE WORST running bike I've ever owned! FI has worked perfect on the 4st bikes, but not this one for me. I got maybe 10 good miles of riding out of it total. So, this carb conversion is not so out of the realm in the real world! I loved the way the bike looked, it just wouldn't run right to save its life.
    Mark.

  • @joecarlino7870
    @joecarlino7870 Před rokem +6

    Isn't it easier and cheaper to buy a used 250sx, then add a 300 kit, an 300xc transmission and revalve the suspension?

    • @tythuey
      @tythuey Před rokem +1

      Not really. Doing all that you mentioned would cost more than the carb conversion and you still wouldn't have estart, larger capacity tank and kickstand.

  • @JoshuaCussins
    @JoshuaCussins Před 10 měsíci

    would it be cheaper to convert a tbi to carb

  • @thedean-dx3qt
    @thedean-dx3qt Před rokem

    Absolutely wild build!
    That being said, with the BRC throttle body available now, it would be a hard sell to go back to carb on these bikes, for more money.

    • @boostedreefer1041
      @boostedreefer1041 Před rokem

      That’s why you just get a beta 300rr for less 🤷‍♂️

  • @billypulsipher1544
    @billypulsipher1544 Před rokem +26

    If you wanted unique, why not take a yamaha and convert it to fuel injection and electric start? Converting this to carb is a waste.

    • @jacobbieler1876
      @jacobbieler1876 Před rokem +5

      Cool builds are never a waste dude personally Id never even consider building a ktm but I can appreciate the huge effort put into this

    • @billypulsipher1544
      @billypulsipher1544 Před rokem

      ​@@jacobbieler1876 its a 2018 xc300 hardly any effort needed to go buy a used bike and put kyb suspension on it. There also cooler and more unique suspensions out there also. Its a nice bike no doubt, buy he lost me at unique.

    • @stevedouglas1654
      @stevedouglas1654 Před rokem +1

      Where would you get fuel injection and e start for a YZ ? And I have a YZ285. C’mon man

    • @jakewood4329
      @jakewood4329 Před rokem

      @@billypulsipher1544 Dude this bike is new not used that's y it makes it unique watch full length video they did

    • @davidsalinas6084
      @davidsalinas6084 Před rokem

      Amen

  • @garthinator2968
    @garthinator2968 Před rokem

    Oh man this bike is sick😭

  • @jonahpatchett-pq8xp
    @jonahpatchett-pq8xp Před rokem

    When do we get to see you ride the tm300?

  • @markmtbrider
    @markmtbrider Před rokem

    I will take it when the time comes, thanks in advance.

  • @Veksi8
    @Veksi8 Před rokem +2

    Looks good but a bit silly build still.. Loosing some pounds but replace safari tank.. maybe next build convert husqvarna to steam engine? 😂😂

  • @DirtRider321
    @DirtRider321 Před rokem

    How does it run though? We all know Kyle preaches on fuel injecting changing the two strokes for the better.

  • @noControl556
    @noControl556 Před rokem

    If you are talking TPI vs stock Mikuni especially with the gasket failures, sure TPI all day long, but compared to a lectron or smart carb, I really don't see the advantage for an average rider or even amature racer. I hear the new TBI's can outperform the carbs (finally) but if you don't need the extra few HP's why take a hit on fuel capacity, weight and extra failure points? Kind of a moot point now that you don't have a choice if you want a new KTM family bike, but still. Is it worth $2k on top of buying a new bike ehh probably not for me, but if you blew an engine I would try to do this instead.

  • @brandonscott6971
    @brandonscott6971 Před 4 měsíci

    Hello,
    What this all in $2000 to
    Do the conversion?

  • @douglasgrosch228
    @douglasgrosch228 Před rokem +1

    update on Stark Varg . thanks

    • @BSm2919
      @BSm2919 Před rokem

      He did a QA a few weeks ago and it has been pushed back another year.

    • @gpaull2
      @gpaull2 Před rokem +1

      Needs more time for physics and technology to catch up to their promises.

  • @DevinDaye
    @DevinDaye Před rokem

    I don't know if you seen it, but I asked a question on one of your older videos. It was a video of you putting on an O-ring chain. I put an O-ring chain on my bike and the first ride it did stretch quite a bit. Is that normal? Thanks

    • @billypulsipher1544
      @billypulsipher1544 Před rokem

      Did you change the sprockets? the new chain will stretch to the old sprockets.

    • @DevinDaye
      @DevinDaye Před rokem

      @@billypulsipher1544 Yes both sprockets are new, actually got a Supersprox

    • @DevinDaye
      @DevinDaye Před rokem

      and I mean it was the last ride before the end of the season, I rode it for the day and it stretched quite a bit, I just didn't know if it something to be concerned about when I take it out for the new season.

    • @billypulsipher1544
      @billypulsipher1544 Před rokem

      @@DevinDaye nope, thats normal, should hardly stretch from here on out

    • @DevinDaye
      @DevinDaye Před rokem

      @@billypulsipher1544 awesome, good to know! thanks for getting back with me! your videos are very helpful!

  • @kellyroach4002
    @kellyroach4002 Před rokem

    Wow am I wrong ? Did your channel jump from 100k subs to 310k subs in a month? Congrats.

  • @MrOmarchingon
    @MrOmarchingon Před rokem

    Does this carb need any adjustments for changes in elevation?

    • @RwP223
      @RwP223 Před rokem

      Is water wet?

    • @bobelliott9790
      @bobelliott9790 Před rokem

      Nope, I have that carb on my 19XC and ride from 2500 to 10500 ft without touching it.

    • @RwP223
      @RwP223 Před rokem

      @@bobelliott9790 It's all relative to how well the carb is tuned, like if the tune is biased already (running safely leaner at low elevation), the type of engine (air vs water cooled), and so many variables come into play when we look at anecdotes. The most important FACT is that neither Lectron or Smartcarb have published test data on their elevation change compensation claims. Another fact is both of them claim totally different methods of compensating for density altitude, yet they don't compare each other or have comparisons with tradition flat slide carbs.
      Bob I believe you sir in your experience, please continue to give me a chance to explain. I have several years experience in engine calibration professionally, however I'm learning about carb stuff and I'm not better than you or anyone else who can make their bike go up a mountain without changing anything more than the air screw.
      Density-Altitude accounts for all factors, where the engine "only cares about" Density-Altitude and is not affected by elevation change alone.
      Here is a lemon vs lime argument because they're somewhat related, paramotors (powered paragliding) has been around for decades where the vast majority are 2-stroke engines, where the vast majority use a Walbro diaphragm carburetor, which is a staple in the high output commercial chainsaw market.
      There exists anecdotal video evidence of many pilots taking 2 strokes well beyond 10,000 ft mean sea level, after taking off from near sea level. Does the Walbro compensate for elevation changes too?
      It's possible, Mr. Elliot, that even though you've gone up in elevation, that weekends Density-Altitude may have skewed it to act as if it were at a lower elevation, the engine sees a lower elevation than you're GPS says.
      What this means is, you would have to account for this when determining the conditions the carburetor is experiencing. Because the community doesn't mention density-altitude doesn't mean it doesn't exist or isn't relevant, it is most relevant. It goes much deeper also with intake temperature alone and how it impacts combustion and ignition timing.
      I believe a properly tuned and consistent carb (like a Lectron) would perform well with elevation changes as Bobs experience seems to support.

  • @benmanning4340
    @benmanning4340 Před rokem

    In my opinion regarding gasgas, I'd much rather just spend less money on an older gasgas when they were the true brand and not just a red ktm. They were much better built in Spain and are simple being carb'd. Older models have absolutely bombproof motors and come factory with keihin carbs. My 2007 gasgas ec 250 supermoto is a beast and easily keeps up with newer ktm's ect... This is just my opinion and I'm not hating as I've owned newer bikes - I just prefer the simplicity and rigidity of older technology.

  • @suzuki06g
    @suzuki06g Před rokem +1

    Have to admit that if I won the GasGas I think that it looks too nice to ride and would probably end up putting it in a museum.

    • @RwP223
      @RwP223 Před rokem

      If I win it, I'd want it to be in your museum too, so much so that'll I'll sell it to you for a good price.

  • @Jeepboy
    @Jeepboy Před rokem

    Why not just use a lectron I have a 05 gg300 ex my son has a 21 ex 300 and we can’t get away from e/o speed for speed tank for tank and we did our test at Hatfield and McCoy trails full day rides

  • @Dat_Sun
    @Dat_Sun Před rokem

    Why put the crummy small cap from tBi bikes on the radiator?

    • @tysonbrous5984
      @tysonbrous5984 Před rokem

      Changed to the new gen radiators. Prevents the notorious power valve puncture

    • @Dat_Sun
      @Dat_Sun Před rokem

      @@tysonbrous5984 I was hoping it meant the older metal cap would fit the newer tank.

  • @stevewill121
    @stevewill121 Před rokem

    Hi there great channel your shop does not ship to the UK would love to win that bike

  • @gpaull2
    @gpaull2 Před rokem +1

    Owning as many TPIs as you both have had, how have you owned/ridden one long enough to say they are reliable in the long term?

    • @singletrackjunkie488
      @singletrackjunkie488 Před rokem +1

      420 hours on my 2022 GasGas ec250 with zero TPI issues.

    • @tythuey
      @tythuey Před rokem +1

      I've owned 5 TPIs. 2 of them I took over 200hrs and all of them over 100hrs. My 2020 that I put over 200hrs on, I sold to my friend and it now has over 400hrs. I know others that have put hundreds of hours on them with little to no issues.

    • @Dat_Sun
      @Dat_Sun Před rokem +2

      My new 22 te150i was extremely troublesome. Dealers couldn't get it running properly.

    • @christobey4198
      @christobey4198 Před rokem +1

      @@Dat_Sun My friends 22 XCW 150i has been the same way. It always runs but the amount of spooge coming out the silencer is amazing. Has never run clean like other TPI bikes I've seen.

    • @Dat_Sun
      @Dat_Sun Před rokem

      @@christobey4198Mine was similar, it was shooting spooge out from the rubber exhaust coupler at 5 hours. Replaced it and the springs, made no difference. This made a mess of the engine every ride.

  • @EASTSIDERIDER707
    @EASTSIDERIDER707 Před rokem

    He might be the baby-daddy of this bike.

  • @clapalucian
    @clapalucian Před rokem

    you don't have to change the whole electric system: there are other "hacky" cheaper ways to do it but you need a pretty good electrician to do it.

  • @njmxjunkie3128
    @njmxjunkie3128 Před rokem

    Instead of swapping the whole electrical system couldnt ya just run a regulator rectifier

  • @dougderby9454
    @dougderby9454 Před rokem +1

    Just think if an enduro 250/300 was offered by the Austria brand with a carb. Stock. For $9500. Course all the pundits will say but they can’t. Won’t pass “emission” laws for the European market. 😂

  • @thecosmicowl928
    @thecosmicowl928 Před rokem

    Man it hurt knowing that i can't win there bikes. Thats one of the many reasons why I hate living in South Africa.

  • @rickvonderchek6898
    @rickvonderchek6898 Před rokem

    You should have went with boyesen radvalve better performance than stock or vforce3 .

  • @hello-dirt
    @hello-dirt Před rokem +1

    That petcock is annoyingly vulnerable. That needs to be more discreet/hidden.

    • @jamesoso259
      @jamesoso259 Před rokem +1

      Honestly most carb bikes have the petcock right there

  • @davidsalinas6084
    @davidsalinas6084 Před rokem +1

    Just get a carb bike lol too much effort for the conversion

  • @zeluisfox360
    @zeluisfox360 Před rokem +2

    TPI = more expensive...Turn TPI to carb = 2 grand... just buy a carb bike.

  • @wolfganghiesel
    @wolfganghiesel Před rokem

    Es ist mir ein Rätsel warum man so viel Geld aus dem Fenster schmeisst um eine KTM/ Gas Gas auf den Stand eine Beta oder Sherco zu bringen.

  • @douglasgrosch228
    @douglasgrosch228 Před rokem

    need to get with Kaplan motorcycles on youtube -you do great work-he a gas gas dealer

    • @Dat_Sun
      @Dat_Sun Před rokem

      This was not bike "work" or a "build". It's how to destroy a decent bike.

  • @gordonlight6048
    @gordonlight6048 Před rokem

    TM

  • @Dat_Sun
    @Dat_Sun Před rokem +2

    Just buy a newer tbi bike.

  • @desert-timber-outdoors6577

    Lol the Yamaha suckers just can’t handle how the euro bikes are sky rocketing above and beyond with two stroke technology and ride ability

  • @Mostviews111
    @Mostviews111 Před rokem

    Total bummer and waste of time so much better oil and fuel injected

  • @jangoreo
    @jangoreo Před rokem

    Huge waste of money to prove, your another guy who cant TPI.
    Which is odd because ive seen them bone stock with Hundreds of hours.

  • @Trad-Am
    @Trad-Am Před rokem

    I don't get why KTM has an issue with their efi. Just copy an Arctic Cat, or Polaris battery less efi, or Ski-Doo direct injection. The Cat efi has been around for over 20 years. Hell, we've got factory 2 stroke turbos on Polaris, and Ski-Doo now!

    • @colbybarton3205
      @colbybarton3205 Před rokem

      I have a tpi ktm and I dont have problems with it 😂

  • @jonlake4754
    @jonlake4754 Před rokem +1

    Should I start commenting with a tally of how many times he says sweepstakes per video? Jesus H.

  • @elvispusley3515
    @elvispusley3515 Před rokem +1

    KTM bad, Beta awesome