I just did this lift. If you want it to be like 10 times easier, stick a 2x4 piece of wood in that top space instead of that socket to keep it up. Like a foot long piece, wedge it between the rubber stopper and upper arm. You won't need the bottle jack at all! It will be perfectly held up and you can move everything around just fine. Just use a car jack under the lower arm to make height adjustments. Saved me a ton of time and frustration.
I very rarely comment on videos because I don't feel the need, but I've got a Mk4 Hilux with the same suspension set up as yours and have 1.5" spacers to fit and wanted a video showing how to - I don't think there's a better one out there than this, I genuinely can't fault it! Clear from start to finish. Thank you very much for this one.
Previous owner had torsion bars jacked all the way up, (super stiff ride quality) I went with the spacers and lowered the torsion bars. Same height, but a smooth ride!!! Thanks. Got it done in a couple hours due to the video.
I used to have the spacers and replaced the torsion bars to prevent cranking them up. However, after a while, the UCA began to crack due to the grinding off of the metal to make room for the spacer. Since then I replaced it with a lift kit. I did have alignment issues with the spacers. I no longer have the truck. Just sharing from experience.
I needed no grinding when I installed mine, but I also installed sway bar and diff spacers to keep the CV joints and sway bar closer to the original geometry. Saves all the extra wear in the CV joints.. It was almost 10 years ago I installed them, I still have the truck but it's not a daily driver..
When you did this ball-joint spacer lift, did you also lift the rear (or had it already done in video?) and did you need to change the shocks at all? I'd think lifting the 1.5" up front would require longer shocks.
to reiterate another's previous post (DirtE3) "SnailTrail4x4 I haven’t been able to find any shocks that specifically say they’re for a 2.5” lift... the 5100’s say 3-4” or the 4600’s are for “stock ride height”, no in between." In my case, i'll be
I was going to run the 4600 shocks with my truck, but the 5100 would probably work also, the question is the up travel, to properly tell you would need to cycle the suspension and find the low and high and see what shock.works best. I don't have this truck anymore, so I'm sorry I can perform this task
Love your video on this truck. I watched your torsion bar lift and this ball joint spacer one. What did you do to the back end? Video? What tires? I know there is a video somewhere but couldn't find it.
@@SnailTrail4x4 i did this and yes love the result !! Was a bit skeptical about griding from the uca but guess what ? It doesn't compromise anything ..great job mate
@@SnailTrail4x4 are you noticing it smoother on the road or off road or both? I am thinking of going higher on my torsion bars but I noticed the off road ride was really harsh on bumpy fire roads but rather smooth on the road. Let me know, thanks
Thanks I was looking on a way to remove mine and knowing how it goes on I can now remove the lift, Is there anything I need to know before taking the lift out ?
SnailTrail4x4 A shanked bolt is only threaded where needed at the end. So in theory you have a solid bar running between the components. This in turn makes it stronger as you are not reducing the width of the bolt. ///////============[:] Essentially this above. I can’t get an image in these comments, sorry.
I attempted to put these spacers on my 2nd gen 4runner and when I them on and everything put back together the spindle for the cv axle had came out to where I couldnt spin the wheel freely. Did you adjust the upper control arm/torsion bar to get those spacers to fit correctly while assembled ?
the vehicle was slightly tightened making it level. If your CV axle came out you need to 'obviously' put it back in, and to do so you might need to disconnect some items. If the wheel isn't spinning freely then the CV is binding and you have to much of a lift, and either need to loosen the torsion bars, or remove the lift.
@@SnailTrail4x4 Thanks for the response! I watched your torsion bar adjustment video. That did the trick. Always learning something with my 4runner. I appreciate it man. Thanks again.
This video is perfect, thank you for sharing, I’m on the middle of this experiment with my old van, I need to adapt spacer on the ball joints, do you mind if I ask the diameter of the circule in the middle, also the size of that ball joint, the spindle and the bolts plate, thanks again
SnailTrail4x4 thank you anyways the simple fact that you were gracious enough to help us do the job is already a win, thanks again, what a privilege your reply, God bless
I ordered 2 sets of spaces thinking I could stack them an get even more lift, I got no height difference from stock to having both spacers in there. My torsions are all the way up An to me the truck still sits low, I’d like to get it higher but have not found a solution
I don't understand why you didn't get any lift, plus that sounds really dangerous. If your looking for more lift your going to have to go with a suspension lift. www.4wheelparts.com/p/1990-Toyota-Pickup-Rough-CountryRough-Country-4-5%22-Toyota-Suspension-Lift-Kit-734.20/_/R-DHTP-734.20?gclid=Cj0KCQjwupD4BRD4ARIsABJMmZ-oFw0o4t3aNeGxhHeFZDhRMNpXlBUtco2Yo8Uklo6aHsvgnjO5TP4aAqauEALw_wcB&ecmp=s:google_9816044632_98859666174__aud-320825498147:pla-669266117731_Rough%20Country_R/C734.2020386_YMM_US&emlprox=out&ppcfon=1&gp=1&ef_id=Cj0KCQjwupD4BRD4ARIsABJMmZ-oFw0o4t3aNeGxhHeFZDhRMNpXlBUtco2Yo8Uklo6aHsvgnjO5TP4aAqauEALw_wcB:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!7836!3!430284196281!!!g!669266117731!&SC%20Shopping%20-%20NTM%20Mobile&ecmp=s:google_9816044632_98859666174__aud-320825498147:pla-669266117731
Hi Snail Trail. I have a 1994 22re 4x4. which company in your view produces the best spacer? some seem to come with a small kit. I also need to replace my Leaf springs anyway and wanna have the most HD springs for hauling weight(stone and firewood on my land). Should i go with an old man EMU spring? something tougher? i understand that the spacer will give a 2-2 1/2 inch lift in the front. would you go with a 3 inch leaf lift in the back to best match height. Is there anything else you would replace in the from since your already taking things apart? any preferred front shocks?
Hello ,nice video and done with clear instructions. I did a 2 inch lift using torsion, is it veey necessary to add that balljoint spacer? Or without it is just fine?
I did the torsion bar lift and didn't like the ride quality, so I added the ball joint spacers and lowered the torsion bars, and I believe the trucks ride quality improved
1994 standard, 5 speed. ok, im gonna do it. additional questions to make the install most efficient: if it's time to replace some front end parts anyway, which would you swap out, i.e., linkages, joints, torsion bar ect... Second, i need new front shocks anyway, what are my higher end quality options which would also accommodate the ball joint spacer lift, length wise? im hoping to clear up to 34"x 12 tires with a bit of offset on the wheels (15") thanks.
I would look at your steering, and upper and lower ball joints, those are the important products at this point. As for 34" tires, your going to have to do an additional lift. I was barely able to fit 32" tires.
Are these universal fit or are they made specifically for the Toyota trucks? The reason I ask is because my friend has a 95 Astro van that needs these. The ones I see available look very close to these shown in the video.
Can you please tell me where you ordered your spacers. There seems to be a lot of options that vary widely in price but from what I can tell, they all look the same. I just know that machined billet aluminum type is better than cast ones. But again, I'd rather spend $50 for a set than $100. And what type, size, length bolts do you use? Thanks for the help!
Any lift puts unnecessary ware on parts, going off-roading puts unnecessary ware on them also. I didn't have Any issues with parts wearing quicker while I owned this truck. I sold it about a year later
similar spacer need on lower ball joint as well ? if not then why ? i want to do similar upgrade on nissan hardbody D21 , torsion bar connects on toyota on upper control arm while torsion bar on nissan connects with the lower control arm , so kindly tell me should i add similar spacer on nissan's lower control arm or on upper ,,,,,,, thanks ,,,,,,
Reall good video thanks, quick question, I've bought a 1995 Hilux Surf, that's the same as a 2nd Gen 4Runner, I think. It's had a 4" suspension lift but has really back camber on both front-wheel that has worn the tyres on the inside. Would this be because it's not fitted with one of these ball joint spacers?
Could be many reasons. Is the truck level? Did they tighten the torsion bars, are there spacers or suspension lift, and when was the last time the truck had an alignment
Will the process be the same for a 2nd gen runner? I know it’s based off the hilux but I’m not sure if they kept similarities after the first gen runner
Technical no, but if the nut comes loose then the bolt could fall down and out, and if you put the bolt in from the top and the nut comes loose then the bolt will not fall out
Heyy i have 1995 2nd gen 4runner. I was wondering how many spacers do I need to lift the body. Is it more than 4 or 4 is enough. Should i do any other modification thanks
A body lift is completely different then this video. For a body lift you will need 8-10 spacers. That's an educated guess I haven't ever done a body lift on the 4runner (pickups have 12)
I liked 4crawlers spacer for the front. Link in the description. Yes you can get up to 2-2.5 inches with tighten the torsion bars as well. As for rear, I'd get new springs if you have the $$$ if not then a spacer is going to be required. I'd park the truck on a flat surface and measure up from the ground to the center of the wheel well on the front and rear. If your going to add 2-2.5 inches to the front then figure out the difference between front and rear to level your rig. You might also think about lifting it a little bit more for when you add all the weight. I'm not sure what springs are the most HD What else you can do... Add spacers, replace upper ball joint if bad, new shocks, any bushings Tires I'm not sure, all tires are so different. I was able to fit BFG KO2 32x11.5x15 on my truck
I don't know what you mean about set-back. there was only one way to set the spacer between the upper control arm and the ball joint so there wasn't any modifications to be made for the position of the wheel. Because we were changing the angle of the lower control arm I went and had the truck aligned
SnailTrail4x4 thanks for responding. Someone on another thread said only with 31- inch+ tires... “Set back” is the distance measured on the rim edge, to the mounting surface (approx 4.5 inches on stock steel wheels.)
Hey, cool video! i bought 2" spacers from Marlincrawler and want to istall them on my 95 4runner. 2 quick questions: 1. Are you on stock, oem shocks? 2. What about front diff drop? Is the cv joints in good angle after the lift?
95 is an interesting year, you need to make sure these will work for your vehicle. In 95 Toyota released the 3rd gen pickups and then the 1st gen Tacoma. These will not work with the Tacoma. As well as the 2nd and 3rd gen 4Runners, these will not work on the 3rd gen 4runners. Now yes I was on stock shafts, and they seamed to work, but I was going to upgrade. And not enough lift to warrant a diff drop in my opinion
@@gincdive -- it's not to difficult to test. Put the front at full droop and then discount the lower shock mount. If the suspension goes down further then you need more shocks because the shock is the limiter. If you disconnect the shock and it continues to lower then your shocks are fine.
Hey man, so I installed Some ball joint spacers, and now I have a bunch of positive camber, I’ve adjusted the camber bolts but it’s still not enough before the lift I didn’t have positive camber or anything, any clue why it kicked the camber out so much?
@@danielgi6628 -- I wouldn't do it, it's putting a lot more stress on the system and making the UCA and LCA very misaligned. You can get about 2-2.5" buy adding the 1.5.spacer than tightening the torsion bars.
hey mate how did u get enough clearance to everything back on once the spacer is finished i don't think i am getting enough clearance from the control arms
i found ones that come in a kit with add a leafs they have 3 options, 2, 2.5 and 3 which one would you recommend and is there any downside to doing the 3
I'm stuck on this install... how do I raise the upper A arm? Seems like with a bottle jack between the upper and lower it pushes the lower down which keeps popping my cv axle. With the cv axle back in line and the bottle jack lowered, I'm missing several inches of clearance to get it lined up. How do I raise the upper arm vs lowering the lower one? Any reason for it to be bound up?
czcams.com/video/WrRVhXg1A68/video.html See how I prevented the A-Arm from lowing, this is how I kept it up. Then when I used the bottle Jack it did lower the lower A-Arm, but it didn't need to go that far.
@@SnailTrail4x4 Got 'er done... yes my socket shim fell out after trying to bang the old upper ball joint out of the steering knuckle. Turns out that shim is crucial for getting it all back together! Had to undo sway bar link and tie rod connector then bottle jack while fighting to keep the CV locked back into place. It was a battle doing it solo but in the end I won! Great video btw you inspired me to lift my second gen so thank you!
It depends how much you lift it. I know 4crawler makes different sizes. Measure the ground to your fender for the front and back and figure out the difference. Then go get the size you need. Remember you can always fine tune by adjusting your torsion bars
@@jamaicamania thanks I'll make sure to check but my power steering pump is going out and it just flicked my check engine light on so while I'm fixing that I'll check
First gen started in 1983 and was the square body, two years into the first gen run they changed it to IFS. The second gen 4runner is more rounded and is IFS that started in 1989.
I'm about to do this exact same mod as well as some OME 901's in the back. Have you ever done the panhard bracket and brake equalizer adapers when lifting this amount?: czcams.com/video/N0w3Bgzg2nY/video.html
I just did this lift. If you want it to be like 10 times easier, stick a 2x4 piece of wood in that top space instead of that socket to keep it up. Like a foot long piece, wedge it between the rubber stopper and upper arm. You won't need the bottle jack at all! It will be perfectly held up and you can move everything around just fine. Just use a car jack under the lower arm to make height adjustments. Saved me a ton of time and frustration.
Do you also need longer shocks with the ball-joint spacer lift? I'm about to do this in a few days. Thanks.
Am about to instalk this spacer this weekend ill inform u@@oldowl4290
@@oldowl4290no
@@oldowl4290 That's a good question because the shocks on mine look way too long, I removing a lift to get it down 4 inches
I very rarely comment on videos because I don't feel the need, but I've got a Mk4 Hilux with the same suspension set up as yours and have 1.5" spacers to fit and wanted a video showing how to - I don't think there's a better one out there than this, I genuinely can't fault it! Clear from start to finish. Thank you very much for this one.
Thank you for taking the time to leave such a wonderful comment!
Totally agree with Tunafish. Super clear descriptions and video. Thanks!
Previous owner had torsion bars jacked all the way up, (super stiff ride quality) I went with the spacers and lowered the torsion bars. Same height, but a smooth ride!!! Thanks. Got it done in a couple hours due to the video.
I agree, it is a much smoother ride. Glad the video was able to help you out. Thanks for commenting
did the initial lift cause a camber issue where the wheel would reach neutral degrees?
@@blingscreensavers3881i have a terrano 2 and I have that problem. I installed these spacers and my camber is all wrong and I cannot make it right
That's cool. Nice how to video. Like the jack method. Everybody should have that jack.
Yeah, with the bottle jack it makes it so you don't have to disconnect all kinds of additional parts
Thanks man. This vid and another helped me replace my 2 upper ball joints. Pretty happy. Good on you!
Thanks love the step by step instructions
Glad it helped
Nice video thank you bro...i Will try to my truck..peace from Indonesia...
Great video I really like that jack with the big tires
It works great!
I used to have the spacers and replaced the torsion bars to prevent cranking them up. However, after a while, the UCA began to crack due to the grinding off of the metal to make room for the spacer. Since then I replaced it with a lift kit. I did have alignment issues with the spacers. I no longer have the truck. Just sharing from experience.
All that is good to know, I did the lease amount of grinding as possible, ill keep an eye on it
I needed no grinding when I installed mine, but I also installed sway bar and diff spacers to keep the CV joints and sway bar closer to the original geometry. Saves all the extra wear in the CV joints.. It was almost 10 years ago I installed them, I still have the truck but it's not a daily driver..
@@HomeDistiller what year truck? I’m about to do this to mine. Kind of looks like it’ll clear without needing grinding, but I’m not 100% yet
@@HomeDistillerdid you went for longer sway bar or what do you mean?
When you did this ball-joint spacer lift, did you also lift the rear (or had it already done in video?) and did you need to change the shocks at all? I'd think lifting the 1.5" up front would require longer shocks.
to reiterate another's previous post (DirtE3) "SnailTrail4x4 I haven’t been able to find any shocks that specifically say they’re for a 2.5” lift... the 5100’s say 3-4” or the 4600’s are for “stock ride height”, no in between." In my case, i'll be
I was going to run the 4600 shocks with my truck, but the 5100 would probably work also, the question is the up travel, to properly tell you would need to cycle the suspension and find the low and high and see what shock.works best.
I don't have this truck anymore, so I'm sorry I can perform this task
KYB makes shocks for these trucks, 0-2 inches of lift.
Love your video on this truck. I watched your torsion bar lift and this ball joint spacer one. What did you do to the back end? Video? What tires? I know there is a video somewhere but couldn't find it.
It was stock. I didn't do anything, and it was sort of level. You can always add an add a leaf, or spacer
I was warned not to use grade 8 bolts for this bc they will sheer off... anyone know if any truth to that bc they’re so hard the guy said.
I'd use a grade 8 shank bolt if I could find one. Grade 8 is one of the strongest bolts on the market
Hey #snailtrail4x4 did you adjust the torsion bar or there’s no need of doing it ?
How different is the ride quality compared to when you only had the torsion bars cranked up?
Night and day, I got about an inch of relief off the Torsion Bars and that really smoothed the ride quality
@@SnailTrail4x4 i did this and yes love the result !! Was a bit skeptical about griding from the uca but guess what ? It doesn't compromise anything ..great job mate
@@SnailTrail4x4 are you noticing it smoother on the road or off road or both? I am thinking of going higher on my torsion bars but I noticed the off road ride was really harsh on bumpy fire roads but rather smooth on the road. Let me know, thanks
Thanks I was looking on a way to remove mine and knowing how it goes on I can now remove the lift, Is there anything I need to know before taking the lift out ?
Should be using shanked bolts as their a lot stronger.
I've never heard of Shank Bolts, where can I find them, and what makes them stronger?
SnailTrail4x4
A shanked bolt is only threaded where needed at the end. So in theory you have a solid bar running between the components. This in turn makes it stronger as you are not reducing the width of the bolt.
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Essentially this above. I can’t get an image in these comments, sorry.
@@merc-ota4357 -- gotcha... Didn't know there was a name for that. Yes that would have been stronger. Thanks for the great suggestion
SnailTrail4x4
No worries, keep up the good work!
I attempted to put these spacers on my 2nd gen 4runner and when I them on and everything put back together the spindle for the cv axle had came out to where I couldnt spin the wheel freely. Did you adjust the upper control arm/torsion bar to get those spacers to fit correctly while assembled ?
the vehicle was slightly tightened making it level. If your CV axle came out you need to 'obviously' put it back in, and to do so you might need to disconnect some items. If the wheel isn't spinning freely then the CV is binding and you have to much of a lift, and either need to loosen the torsion bars, or remove the lift.
@@SnailTrail4x4 Thanks for the response! I watched your torsion bar adjustment video. That did the trick. Always learning something with my 4runner. I appreciate it man. Thanks again.
Saludos amigo ,, me puedesregalar las medidas de esa pieza quiero fabricarla aquí en Honduras no la venden
This video is perfect, thank you for sharing, I’m on the middle of this experiment with my old van, I need to adapt spacer on the ball joints, do you mind if I ask the diameter of the circule in the middle, also the size of that ball joint, the spindle and the bolts plate, thanks again
I'm sorry I don't have this truck any more. You can contact 4crawler, link in description, to ask him about his product
SnailTrail4x4 thank you anyways the simple fact that you were gracious enough to help us do the job is already a win, thanks again, what a privilege your reply, God bless
It doesn’t hurt getting the diff drop as well. Saves your CVs
Yes, that is a great suggestions, I did notice they were a bit tight. I might do that in the future.
Hpw would that be done?
@@ljgarrison6910 get a diff drop kit, and add the spacers between the frame and the diff.
I ordered 2 sets of spaces thinking I could stack them an get even more lift, I got no height difference from stock to having both spacers in there. My torsions are all the way up An to me the truck still sits low, I’d like to get it higher but have not found a solution
I don't understand why you didn't get any lift, plus that sounds really dangerous. If your looking for more lift your going to have to go with a suspension lift. www.4wheelparts.com/p/1990-Toyota-Pickup-Rough-CountryRough-Country-4-5%22-Toyota-Suspension-Lift-Kit-734.20/_/R-DHTP-734.20?gclid=Cj0KCQjwupD4BRD4ARIsABJMmZ-oFw0o4t3aNeGxhHeFZDhRMNpXlBUtco2Yo8Uklo6aHsvgnjO5TP4aAqauEALw_wcB&ecmp=s:google_9816044632_98859666174__aud-320825498147:pla-669266117731_Rough%20Country_R/C734.2020386_YMM_US&emlprox=out&ppcfon=1&gp=1&ef_id=Cj0KCQjwupD4BRD4ARIsABJMmZ-oFw0o4t3aNeGxhHeFZDhRMNpXlBUtco2Yo8Uklo6aHsvgnjO5TP4aAqauEALw_wcB:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!7836!3!430284196281!!!g!669266117731!&SC%20Shopping%20-%20NTM%20Mobile&ecmp=s:google_9816044632_98859666174__aud-320825498147:pla-669266117731
Thanks for this video.
Hi Snail Trail. I have a 1994 22re 4x4. which company in your view produces the best spacer? some seem to come with a small kit. I also need to replace my Leaf springs anyway and wanna have the most HD springs for hauling weight(stone and firewood on my land). Should i go with an old man EMU spring? something tougher? i understand that the spacer will give a 2-2 1/2 inch lift in the front. would you go with a 3 inch leaf lift in the back to best match height. Is there anything else you would replace in the from since your already taking things apart? any preferred front shocks?
Suspension part hardware have to be grade 12.9
Where dose one get those?
Hello ,nice video and done with clear instructions. I did a 2 inch lift using torsion, is it veey necessary to add that balljoint spacer? Or without it is just fine?
I did the torsion bar lift and didn't like the ride quality, so I added the ball joint spacers and lowered the torsion bars, and I believe the trucks ride quality improved
Doing this next week man for hilux ln166 series
1994 standard, 5 speed. ok, im gonna do it. additional questions to make the install most efficient: if it's time to replace some front end parts anyway, which would you swap out, i.e., linkages, joints, torsion bar ect... Second, i need new front shocks anyway, what are my higher end quality options which would also accommodate the ball joint spacer lift, length wise? im hoping to clear up to 34"x 12 tires with a bit of offset on the wheels (15") thanks.
I would look at your steering, and upper and lower ball joints, those are the important products at this point. As for 34" tires, your going to have to do an additional lift. I was barely able to fit 32" tires.
Can’t you grind the spacer where needed instead of the upper control arm??
Thx for sharing this
Are these universal fit or are they made specifically for the Toyota trucks? The reason I ask is because my friend has a 95 Astro van that needs these. The ones I see available look very close to these shown in the video.
These are made strickly for Toyota
Can you please tell me where you ordered your spacers. There seems to be a lot of options that vary widely in price but from what I can tell, they all look the same. I just know that machined billet aluminum type is better than cast ones. But again, I'd rather spend $50 for a set than $100. And what type, size, length bolts do you use? Thanks for the help!
My kit came with a sway bar and a diff drop spacers, notice u didn’t do that do I need to put mine in?
Mine didn't come right them but they would be a good idea
Great video!
Can you tell me the rims offset please, are they 15x8 -22 offset. Thanks
I have heard mixed reviews about ball joint spacer lifts have you had any issues with yours putting any unnecessary ware on other suspension parts
Any lift puts unnecessary ware on parts, going off-roading puts unnecessary ware on them also. I didn't have Any issues with parts wearing quicker while I owned this truck. I sold it about a year later
Do it the correct way, get sway away torsion bars!
Does this spacer affect yr sway bar?
I just did on mine 93 4 runner . ws out grinning metal i press them by c clamp. And it look bad of ailment.totally.
Glad they fit, did you go get an alignment?
similar spacer need on lower ball joint as well ? if not then why ? i want to do similar upgrade on nissan hardbody D21 , torsion bar connects on toyota on upper control arm while torsion bar on nissan connects with the lower control arm , so kindly tell me should i add similar spacer on nissan's lower control arm or on upper ,,,,,,, thanks ,,,,,,
Reall good video thanks, quick question, I've bought a 1995 Hilux Surf, that's the same as a 2nd Gen 4Runner, I think. It's had a 4" suspension lift but has really back camber on both front-wheel that has worn the tyres on the inside. Would this be because it's not fitted with one of these ball joint spacers?
Could be many reasons. Is the truck level? Did they tighten the torsion bars, are there spacers or suspension lift, and when was the last time the truck had an alignment
Will the process be the same for a 2nd gen runner? I know it’s based off the hilux but I’m not sure if they kept similarities after the first gen runner
Yes I believe it should be the same. Take a look at the bolt layout in the video and see if they are similar to your rigs layout
It is! I did the same on my 2nd gen 4runner. Thanks to this guys video I was able to lift my front end.
How was the ride after adjusting the torsion bars? I’m planning to do the same thing but I wanna know ho was it before I do something stupid. Thanks
It's not as stiff as just lifting the Torsion. But the ride is definitely different but not to uncomfortable to drive around on a daily
Awesome. Cheers for that one mate.
does it matter if you put the bolts in from the bottom?
Technical no, but if the nut comes loose then the bolt could fall down and out, and if you put the bolt in from the top and the nut comes loose then the bolt will not fall out
se tiene que alinear después de poner el espaciador?
Heyy i have 1995 2nd gen 4runner. I was wondering how many spacers do I need to lift the body. Is it more than 4 or 4 is enough. Should i do any other modification thanks
A body lift is completely different then this video. For a body lift you will need 8-10 spacers. That's an educated guess I haven't ever done a body lift on the 4runner (pickups have 12)
I just installed these as per your video, however I now have so much play in my steering, is this common ?
No, these shouldn't effect your steering, did you get an alignment?
Hi i have ln166 hilux. How where i can buy this ball joint spacer ?
Link in the description
Also: what are the tallest/widest tires I will likely be able to fit afterwards? In addition to some trimming as well? thanks.
I liked 4crawlers spacer for the front. Link in the description. Yes you can get up to 2-2.5 inches with tighten the torsion bars as well.
As for rear, I'd get new springs if you have the $$$ if not then a spacer is going to be required. I'd park the truck on a flat surface and measure up from the ground to the center of the wheel well on the front and rear. If your going to add 2-2.5 inches to the front then figure out the difference between front and rear to level your rig. You might also think about lifting it a little bit more for when you add all the weight.
I'm not sure what springs are the most HD
What else you can do... Add spacers, replace upper ball joint if bad, new shocks, any bushings
Tires I'm not sure, all tires are so different. I was able to fit BFG KO2 32x11.5x15 on my truck
@@SnailTrail4x4 So that setup is the spacer, torsions cranked a bit.. and thats it? Fitting 32's? Nice
@@Madtigertv -- I actually loosened the torsion bars to bring it down a bit for a smoother ride.
Are you need to change your shocks absorber with this lift for not stress or factory work good?
Yes, I would
Hola. Le pusiste cubiertas 32'. No tocaste nada en los diferenciales?
Yeah, the truck probably should get new gears, but it drive alright
Did you change up the shocks as well? I'm looking to do the same on my 91
No, the shock see to work fine, plenty of droop
Quick question if you’re still monitoring this: Did you take into consideration wheel “set-back” at all? Or maybe you just didn’t have to...?
I don't know what you mean about set-back. there was only one way to set the spacer between the upper control arm and the ball joint so there wasn't any modifications to be made for the position of the wheel. Because we were changing the angle of the lower control arm I went and had the truck aligned
SnailTrail4x4 thanks for responding. Someone on another thread said only with 31- inch+ tires...
“Set back” is the distance measured on the rim edge, to the mounting surface (approx 4.5 inches on stock steel wheels.)
I meant to say, 31” tires on stick rims....
Crap. BACKSPACING, not “set-back.” Sorry.
@@Buckarooskiczek the wheels I put on there were 4" backspacing
Is it necessary to grind away the backside of the upper control arm for 1" ball join spacers?
I believe so, I think they are all the same shape just different thickness. You should ask the manufacturer to be sure.
Hey, cool video! i bought 2" spacers from Marlincrawler and want to istall them on my 95 4runner. 2 quick questions:
1. Are you on stock, oem shocks?
2. What about front diff drop? Is the cv joints in good angle after the lift?
95 is an interesting year, you need to make sure these will work for your vehicle. In 95 Toyota released the 3rd gen pickups and then the 1st gen Tacoma. These will not work with the Tacoma. As well as the 2nd and 3rd gen 4Runners, these will not work on the 3rd gen 4runners.
Now yes I was on stock shafts, and they seamed to work, but I was going to upgrade. And not enough lift to warrant a diff drop in my opinion
Cool, I own a 2nd gen on Ironman shocks. Think it will work ok.
@@gincdive -- it's not to difficult to test. Put the front at full droop and then discount the lower shock mount. If the suspension goes down further then you need more shocks because the shock is the limiter.
If you disconnect the shock and it continues to lower then your shocks are fine.
@@SnailTrail4x4 how about a 1990. I got a 1990 Toyota 4Runner there no spring in the front just a shock
@@richardclark9177 should work
What is the total height of the spacer? 2.5 inch or 1.5?
I've sold this truck so I'm going off of memory, I think they were 1.5, and if you want to get up to 2.5" lift you need to tighten the torsion bars
Thank you
Hey man, so I installed Some ball joint spacers, and now I have a bunch of positive camber, I’ve adjusted the camber bolts but it’s still not enough before the lift I didn’t have positive camber or anything, any clue why it kicked the camber out so much?
anthony nguyen it shouldn’t make that much of a difference, try lowering the torsion bar and see if it helps
Edwin Wu I did I loosen the torsion quite a bit and it didn’t do anytning
Rough how long did it take to grind back the upper control arm I tried doing mine today and had the same problem
It wasn't that long... Maybe 30 min
what BJ spacers do you use? 1.5" , 2", 3" ? is it very complicated to use 3 "?
I use a 1.5" spacer
What do you think, about 2” or 3” BJ spacer ? Is it so dangerous?
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@@danielgi6628 -- I wouldn't do it, it's putting a lot more stress on the system and making the UCA and LCA very misaligned. You can get about 2-2.5" buy adding the 1.5.spacer than tightening the torsion bars.
SnailTrail4x4 thanks men, I like your video, I have a Hilux rn168 strange Hilux in the world 🤦🏽♂️
That's a cool Jack. Did you put those tires on?
Nope, it's a ProEagle Jack.
Did you have to loosen off torsion bars to do this mate?
No you do not.
When installing the bj spacers and cranking the t bars could you fit 33s?
Most likely yes. I fit 32s and lowered the torsion bars for a smoother ride
After this i need longer shock absorbers???
Yes I would
Did it throw your alignment off much, caster, camber, and toe. Was it aligned before the BJ spacers.
It was aligned before, and it was off after, but my alignment shop got everything straight
SnailTrail4x4 Thanks about to install one on mine.
Do you need a dif drop for this?
I'm not sure if they make a diff drop for these trucks, I haven't seen one. Do they make them?
@@SnailTrail4x4 You can get the diff drop kits from the LC Engineering website. I bought one a few months ago.
@@Melvin024 -- That's good to know thanks for the information. Diff drop doesn't hurt, but I'm not sure it's enough of a lift to require one.
Saludos amigo, para que le adactaste esa pieza en la suspensión tengo uno
The space lifts the truck
@@SnailTrail4x4 Es para levantarlo 2 pulgadas mas.
Were you able to get the alignment in spec on the front?
I was able to get it aligned, I do not have the specs
what size tires are you running with this lift now?
that part works for a Toyota t100 sr5 its not a 4x4
Good to know
Hey man what size tires are you running? And did it require any trimming?
I was running 32x11.5r15 with out trimming
What size tyres are you running on your Toyota?
On this truck it was 32x11.5x15
Whats the size of the tires? I like these and want to install this size in my 95 Toyota.
32/11.5/r15
hey mate how did u get enough clearance to everything back on once the spacer is finished i don't think i am getting enough clearance from the control arms
Did you trim them?
i found ones that come in a kit with add a leafs they have 3 options, 2, 2.5 and 3 which one would you recommend and is there any downside to doing the 3
Stiffer ride, the more you lift the less down travel you have. You might need to get longer shocks
@@SnailTrail4x4 so i would probably be better off doing a 2' on the stock height bilstiens i put in?
@@carsondamery6432 sounds good
@@SnailTrail4x4 I got the 3" kit and billstein 5100 would that work ? What do you recommend? For a 89 Toyota pickup 4wd .
@@frankytowers87 -- it depends on the size of the shocks.
Did by installing the bj spacer will lift the front of my 4runner 86? Or I have to install other components again to make it works?
maybe lift rear axle by same centimeter / inches
What size tires?
Where can I get that thing???
Link in the description
My tires rub the upper control arm now =/
Time for Spacers
What’s the tool called you used to grind it down?
Angle grinder
Did the
stock shock max out?
Hey mate do you have any issues with the angle of the CVs ?
Nope, it's not too extreme
How much inch spacer???
I'm stuck on this install... how do I raise the upper A arm? Seems like with a bottle jack between the upper and lower it pushes the lower down which keeps popping my cv axle. With the cv axle back in line and the bottle jack lowered, I'm missing several inches of clearance to get it lined up. How do I raise the upper arm vs lowering the lower one? Any reason for it to be bound up?
czcams.com/video/WrRVhXg1A68/video.html See how I prevented the A-Arm from lowing, this is how I kept it up. Then when I used the bottle Jack it did lower the lower A-Arm, but it didn't need to go that far.
@@SnailTrail4x4 Got 'er done... yes my socket shim fell out after trying to bang the old upper ball joint out of the steering knuckle. Turns out that shim is crucial for getting it all back together! Had to undo sway bar link and tie rod connector then bottle jack while fighting to keep the CV locked back into place. It was a battle doing it solo but in the end I won! Great video btw you inspired me to lift my second gen so thank you!
Where to get those spacers
Link in the description
great video, I have an 86 runner. I would like to do the ball joint lift, but will that make the front higher than the back? thanks
It depends how much you lift it. I know 4crawler makes different sizes. Measure the ground to your fender for the front and back and figure out the difference. Then go get the size you need. Remember you can always fine tune by adjusting your torsion bars
any tips for getting the studs out?
You mean like 1:45 those studies that are apart of the ball joint?
@@SnailTrail4x4 yeah those 4 ones. i managed to hammer them out with a lot of wd40 and smacking
I need for toyota tacoma 98 5 lug
Where did you get your spaces and how much were they?
Link in the video description
I need a 2-3 inch suspension leveling kit for my 1992 Toyota pickup does anyone know a good one?
Supreme Suspension
When I turn very hard driver my front steering will lift up my truck then pop and drop back down does anyone know what might cause this
I don't know, but you should have that looked at. Doesn't sound good
@@SnailTrail4x4 I think I might have it figured out
Check driver side gear linkage. Had the Same problem a few years ago. Something was disconnected or broken. Sorry I can’t remember
@@jamaicamania thanks I'll make sure to check but my power steering pump is going out and it just flicked my check engine light on so while I'm fixing that I'll check
Tyre size please?
I'm running 32/11.5/r15
Is there any sort of diff drop the wont kill your cv's?
Not that I know of for these trucks, But that doesn't mean there isn't one out there.
Also first gen 4runner. The Trekker was not a 4runner.
Trekker and first gen 4Runners have a solid front axle so this mod won't work for them as they don't have independent suspension
The Trekkers were 1981 to 1983.
@@SimonElenor -- ok, I'm not sure what your trying to say here... Ball joint spacers won't work on them as they don't have IFS.
@@SnailTrail4x4 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_4Runner
First gen started in 1983 and was the square body, two years into the first gen run they changed it to IFS. The second gen 4runner is more rounded and is IFS that started in 1989.
Is this a 2wd or 4x4? I want to put bigger tires on my 94 2wd pickup. Wondering what I can fit with a torsion bar lift.
Mine 8s a 4wd but they make spacers for 2wd, link to the company in the description
Did you lifted rear too?
Coil spacer?
Didn't lift the rear yet, but the front is only slightly higher
Bad idea
Please explain
I'm about to do this exact same mod as well as some OME 901's in the back. Have you ever done the panhard bracket and brake equalizer adapers when lifting this amount?: czcams.com/video/N0w3Bgzg2nY/video.html
Do ya know if these spacers are made for a 98 Tacoma 2wheel drive 5 lug?
ive seen similar style ones that look like they fit (1997 model here) but they all say they are for either the T100, toyota pickup, or 4runner
What size are the rims and tires?
32x11.5 tires 15x8 with a 4" backspacing wheel