Is a $4000, 15-Year-Old VW Touareg Better Than A Brand New $50K 2019 Volkswagen Atlas?

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  • čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
  • ( www.TFLcar.com ) The VW touareg is no longer sold in the United States. Instead it has been replaced by the brand new VW Atlas. In this video we compare and review the two and find out if an old, used Volkswagen SUV is actually a proper competitor to a brand new 3 row full size SUV.
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Komentáře • 928

  • @GeronimoJenkins
    @GeronimoJenkins Před 4 lety +210

    ToughT is a pretty unique series, thanks for keeping it going! Old Touareg prices going to go through the roof

    • @GeronimoJenkins
      @GeronimoJenkins Před 4 lety +5

      @@WW-wf8tu it's a joke, a meme, not meant to be taken seriously

    • @joeyscleaninglady2877
      @joeyscleaninglady2877 Před 4 lety

      hoping you do a jeep liberty (CRD variant) those have a bad wrap and are seen as being crappy off roaders

    • @Xrex-li1yb
      @Xrex-li1yb Před 4 lety

      When you think cause your bigger you should have more groundclear

  • @paladin11C40
    @paladin11C40 Před 4 lety +828

    Touareg was designed to compete with Land Rover, BMW, and Mercedes. Atlas was designed to compete with Chevy Traverse and Ford Explorer. They are not in the same class of vehicle.

    • @in4chandru
      @in4chandru Před 4 lety +18

      Well said.

    • @cup_and_cone
      @cup_and_cone Před 4 lety +6

      Very true.

    • @GarryMcGovern
      @GarryMcGovern Před 4 lety +37

      And while the Touareg is still very much on sale everywhere in Europe (recently been updated too), the Atlas is not: yep, a car from a European manufacturer - that is not actually sold in Europe!

    • @DarkPhoenixTSi
      @DarkPhoenixTSi Před 4 lety +7

      @@GarryMcGovern Well, that is because the NA market loves SUVs. The EU market, not so much.

    • @GarryMcGovern
      @GarryMcGovern Před 4 lety +18

      @@DarkPhoenixTSi Your answer makes no sense: Both Atlas and Touareg are SUV's, except one is sold in US, the other Europe (among other markets). How do you infer then that Europe actually doesn't like SUV's, when VW sells Touaregs here by the buckload (on top of Tiguans, T-Cross's and T-Rocs), and in fact SUV's make up over a third of the entire car market here (remembering that the market for trucks like your F150 doesn't really exist here)?

  • @chiil034
    @chiil034 Před 4 lety +38

    Bought a V6 Touareg (2006) for $1500 (85k miles)... fixed it all up with a few visits to the junk yard, and it's running like a champ. Can't beat that.

    • @brianmoore4778
      @brianmoore4778 Před rokem +2

      Pick a part do it yourself wrecking. Savior for European luxury 4x4 ownership.

  • @toycarcollector
    @toycarcollector Před 4 lety +4

    I bought my 65K mile 2007 Touareg V8 in 2010 for just over a third of what it cost new. After 10 more years she is still in very nice condition. The paint is bullet proof. The interior still looks fresh. The carpet is so nice you can't even get real carpet anymore. And best of all you can buy a computer program and hook up your computer to the Touareg and it will tell you everything that goes wrong. Mine has never been to a service department I take care of it myself. The only downside is that if the engine or transmission goes your done. Major issues that can creep up on you include $2k brake jobs, 4 fuel pumps, center differential joint, huge exhaust system, air suspension issues, and electrical. These are not for the faint of heart. If you got skills it is a great vehicle.

  • @CarWhiz22
    @CarWhiz22 Před 4 lety +349

    In 15 years time that Atlas will be in much worse shape than the Touareg is today.

    • @krane15
      @krane15 Před 4 lety +15

      That's because the Touareg was a no-holds barred design. It came with all the VW group had to offer all the way up to its W-12 engine. Sadly, VW doesn't build them like that anymore.

    • @tiko5876
      @tiko5876 Před 4 lety

      Krane Mk4>Everything that came after

    • @stephanm.tjaden3887
      @stephanm.tjaden3887 Před 4 lety +3

      Watch the IIHS Crash test on the Atlas;............Looks pretty safe to me...

    • @NiksS4
      @NiksS4 Před 4 lety

      Not really...

    • @ryanfay1
      @ryanfay1 Před 3 lety

      Blair Aquila in Europe

  • @lewistatum90
    @lewistatum90 Před 4 lety +181

    Pretty confused in Germany there still is the Touareg but never heard atlas before 😅

    • @1985toyotacamry
      @1985toyotacamry Před 4 lety +9

      This is specifically built for North America market its made in Tennessee I believe

    • @eliteultra9
      @eliteultra9 Před 4 lety +2

      @@1985toyotacamry true, here in Mexico we have it too and it sold pretty well , made for North America only not Europe

    • @xf1632
      @xf1632 Před 4 lety +3

      Dirt Bike Rider gaaaaanz selten siehst du auch hier ein Atlas.
      Sind aber importiert und echt Exoten hier

    • @isaacsdanny
      @isaacsdanny Před 4 lety

      @@1985toyotacamry We also make them in Africa. They're made to compete with the likes of Toyota and Chevy here.

    • @eddgrs9193
      @eddgrs9193 Před 4 lety +9

      It's pretty much a Skoda Kodiaq for the US market.

  • @TheKacper2001
    @TheKacper2001 Před 4 lety +229

    I'd rather have the touareg because its higher quality

    • @joeyscleaninglady2877
      @joeyscleaninglady2877 Před 4 lety +2

      old cars will break and no warranty. means what. I guess the choice is price vs price but this is just a straight comparison of the two if both were free or the same price

    • @rcautofanatic5024
      @rcautofanatic5024 Před 4 lety +1

      Kacper B obviously

    • @asdasd01
      @asdasd01 Před 4 lety +12

      @@joeyscleaninglady2877 bullshit

    • @TheKacper2001
      @TheKacper2001 Před 4 lety +1

      @@GJenks15 Not really. Cayenne has different engines and lower quality cabin.

    • @NiksS4
      @NiksS4 Před 4 lety

      not really

  • @danelliott1230
    @danelliott1230 Před 4 lety +8

    I own an 07 FSI V8 Touareg (350hp). Bought used in 2015 for a pretty great price. It's a fantastic vehicle when it runs, however reliability is very poor. In 4 years of ownership on a fairly low mileage for its age Touareg, I've dropped thousands on repairs. Multiple Batteries, keyless entry module, transmission control module, stepper motor, driveshaft bearing, the list goes on. Still a few I going issues that I refuse to pay for including electrical gremlins. Parts are very expensive, I just about choked when I was quoted for pads and rotors at the dealer. If you're handy and can do the work yourself, you can save money but it's still quite expensive. Just be aware what you're getting into. Sure, you can get one for a steal, but be prepared to deal with constant headaches.
    Also, just traded it in on a 2020 tacoma off road. No regrets, but looking forward to reliability! I did test drive an Atlas, and it feels cheap compared to the Touareg.

  • @mastercreamer1398
    @mastercreamer1398 Před 4 lety +6

    I just bought a 2006 Toureg R and it’s unbelievable how nice it is for that year. It’s a beast on the road.

  • @Jsailor1210
    @Jsailor1210 Před 4 lety +11

    Picked up a 16 Touareg executive trim level this summer with the VR6. Absolutely love it! Best vehicle I have ever owned, tows my 21 foot center console with ease. Fully loaded with Fuel and trailer at 5100 pounds. No issues. The atlas can’t even sniff the capability of my Touareg. Sad they aren’t selling them anymore here.

    • @yankeedoodle6293
      @yankeedoodle6293 Před 3 lety +1

      True. I bought a new 2016 Touareg TDI. Awesome vehicle and periodically get thumbs up from complete strangers. Why did you choose the vr6 over the TDI?

    • @Jsailor1210
      @Jsailor1210 Před 3 lety +2

      @@yankeedoodle6293 I didn’t really want a diesel. Been down that road before, The cost of maintenance is what pushed me to the gas engine. the difference of cost for buying a tid vs gas in my area was around 8k for the same vehicle.

    • @yankeedoodle6293
      @yankeedoodle6293 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Jsailor1210 the VR6 is an excellent choice as well. Enjoy it 👍

  • @jarnold2000
    @jarnold2000 Před 4 lety +3

    This was super fun to watch. I went from that exact Touareg to that exact Atlas. The T-Reg was hard to give up after so long. Great comparison. You got it spot on.

  • @shebamut
    @shebamut Před 4 lety +21

    the Touaregs price killed it from the very beginning. If it was 35-40k back then, they would have sold like hotcakes. Even today, if you can find a good used one with less than 20k miles, it will last you forever.

    • @wierdinthewoods3733
      @wierdinthewoods3733 Před 2 lety +2

      its better to find one after 80k that way you can tell if all the manuacture kinks got worked out.

    • @dailylife3975
      @dailylife3975 Před rokem

      @@wierdinthewoods3733 I bought a 2005 v8 3 years ago with the air ride fully loaded except no rear locker but 112,000 miles and new timing belt a and its been awesome you can't beat what you get for the money I have 144,000 miles now

    • @gonnahavemesomefun
      @gonnahavemesomefun Před 9 měsíci

      @@wierdinthewoods3733 I did this, bought a year 2011 one at 60k miles 7 years ago. She's on 114k miles now and I've spent money on bits and bobs but she's sweet as a nut now and I love her. Still feels modern, comforable and fits in well with even the new Touareg's on the road.

  • @cpear760
    @cpear760 Před 4 lety +73

    That Toureg needs a detailing.

  • @andresparrow2971
    @andresparrow2971 Před 4 lety +11

    The Atlas is not a luxury suv. The Touareg was another example of "vw, a general consumer brand, made another car to compete with the luxury cars it already manufacturers." Id still take a Tourag over the Q7 or Cayenne...not Cayenne TurboS due to performance and not Q7 Exclusive for its interior...but the if not for its bad reliability it was something awesome.

  • @JamesRussoMillas
    @JamesRussoMillas Před 4 lety +28

    The og Tuareg competed with a Range Rover/X5. The Atlas competes with non-luxury brands now.

  • @luisg7109
    @luisg7109 Před 4 lety +18

    From VW
    Touareg was something like the “Concorde”
    Atlas is just a fat Boeing

  • @bigdogpete43
    @bigdogpete43 Před 4 lety +83

    You can buy 12 of Touregs for $50K. Even if each one lasts you just 3 years, you will be on Social Security before you need another car.

    • @caddy4350
      @caddy4350 Před 4 lety +4

      and you will have spare parts for days

    • @williamparker7823
      @williamparker7823 Před 4 lety +4

      Guess I won't be needing another car then since Social Security will be a legend in 30 years.

    • @rjscott6116
      @rjscott6116 Před 4 lety +1

      You will need spare parts for days... and a mechanic who loves you, while at the same time not needing any money, because if he makes you pay cash for repairs you'll be broke, though even if you're charged sexual favors, you'll be bloody, raw, and in tears.

    • @bigdogpete43
      @bigdogpete43 Před 4 lety +1

      @@rjscott6116 Or I could just drive another one.

    • @larstomasson9244
      @larstomasson9244 Před 3 lety

      you really cant get decent ones for $4000. decent costs $10-15K at this date.

  • @ebrima31
    @ebrima31 Před 3 lety +3

    Touareg is one of the finest car ever built. The only time you are going to really appreciate the power of this monster, it's when it snows.
    Men! I love the touareg 💘

  • @ProBenja5
    @ProBenja5 Před 4 lety +8

    In my country we have both, the Atlas is US$39.000 and the Touareg is between US$86.000 and $94.000 so I wouldn’t consider the Atlas in the same league as there is such a huge price difference.

  • @dzonikg
    @dzonikg Před 4 lety +10

    I have only money for 15 year old cars so this comparison makes me happy :D My family has 6 cars (3 are mine) and all are like 15 years average and i am happy with them..they dont have touch screens but i also dont have any credit to pay

    • @heikg
      @heikg Před 4 lety

      You know, if you didn't buy 3 old cars maybe you could've saved for 1 more modern car.

  • @CandleGuyFX
    @CandleGuyFX Před 4 lety +126

    How can the Atlas replace the Touareg when the Touareg still exist in 2019?

    • @dskains
      @dskains Před 4 lety +6

      CandleGuyFX He said it doesn’t exist in the USA. they dropped it here. They recently started selling the TDI Touaregs they they bought back a few years ago.

    • @bjcliving386
      @bjcliving386 Před 4 lety

      @S Ra and Australia thankfully :)

    • @ylcsl4378
      @ylcsl4378 Před 4 lety +1

      @S Ra and Russia

    • @ylcsl4378
      @ylcsl4378 Před 4 lety +3

      Literally everything except America :D

    • @WDavid-bm9jd
      @WDavid-bm9jd Před 4 lety

      Most people just like touareg with atlas's price!! if touareg come to US with EU price, give the reason why don't buy bmw or mercedes...

  • @BobBob30966
    @BobBob30966 Před 4 lety +12

    I had no idea the back window on the hatch of the Touareg opened like that. My wife still drives her 05 and she is going to be extremely shocked it opens like that.

    • @Supcharged
      @Supcharged Před 4 lety +1

      How does the car hold up?

    • @AniketKumar-ye9hh
      @AniketKumar-ye9hh Před 4 lety +1

      I didn't know that too, now loading groceries is a bit better

  • @emilioponce4593
    @emilioponce4593 Před 4 lety

    Glad I got to meet y'all in the airport the other day! Great content!

  • @richardedwardpay
    @richardedwardpay Před 4 lety +36

    That's a lot of hail damage on the hood.

    • @jedironin380
      @jedironin380 Před 4 lety +4

      It was a $4000 car. You could spend $1000 with PDR and still come out ahead! :)

  • @AllAboutJane
    @AllAboutJane Před 4 lety +19

    My mom had a 2012 TDI Toureg with all the options and when I drove that car through the snowy Idaho mountains, there was nothing that could replicate how powerful and safe I felt in that SUV. She sold it to VW for the same price she bought it as, but I begged her to pass it down to me. So sad that VW has traded the Toureg for the Atlas which is BUTT UGG

    • @MikeMcclendon1377
      @MikeMcclendon1377 Před 3 lety +1

      That's awesome, great comment & thanks

    • @yankeedoodle6293
      @yankeedoodle6293 Před 3 lety

      I bought a Touareg TDI brand new in 2016 Love the car.. FYI you can still find them preowned on auto trader.

    • @larstomasson9244
      @larstomasson9244 Před 3 lety

      Jane, go out and buy one. 2012 was the biggest selling year and 2012 are easy to find.

    • @ericbraun4652
      @ericbraun4652 Před 3 lety

      I'd LOVE that Diesel except I understand they weren't reliable and they were very expensive to fix. Overengineered and expensive parts. Am I wrong?

    • @orges.1
      @orges.1 Před 2 lety

      @@ericbraun4652 in most cases petrol engines are less reliable as far as i know for almost every car plus fuel consumption is higher

  • @crazycoffee
    @crazycoffee Před 4 lety +4

    I got a maxed out 06 V10 TDI Touareg recently. Full history Im the second owner roomy (good because Im 6'4) 140k miles. I love it so far

  • @nico.mascio
    @nico.mascio Před 4 lety +10

    I had a 2003 VW Touareg V10 and it was fantastic. Absolutely one of my favorite cars ever with a monstrous torque of 750 Nm already at low rmp, however it was not a fuel economy champion. It had a lot more options than yours but it was so expensive. In Italy it was worth something like 120000€ so 140000$ in 2003

  • @williamparker7823
    @williamparker7823 Před 4 lety +6

    I've been keeping up with the Tourareg videos semi-regularly to see one get properly used. I had a V8 one briefly and wanted to share some thoughts before people go off to craigslist. These are at the age and price where many are not cared for well. Yes, you can get one for $4000 or less but please get a pre-purchase inspection if you're planning on keeping it. If the intake actuators are broken, there is a company that makes aluminium ones so you don't have to buy the whole kit since VW doesn't sell just the arms. The thermostat is behind the timing belt. I had a problem where water collected in the spare wheel well where the air pump is located. The battery is under the driver's seat. The one in the video has a rear locker, good luck finding one with that option but the center locker is there. The leather is quite good at least and the handling is very good for a 5000 pound tank. I really liked mine but I couldn't justify spending the purchase price in maintenance to get it back to daily driver reliability.

  • @evilz33
    @evilz33 Před 4 lety +47

    Two years ago me and my wife were looking for a new suv she test drove a brand new atlas she said it felt cheap and drove like a minivan. She ended up getting a slightly used second gen tdi touareg.

    • @jerryp2433
      @jerryp2433 Před 4 lety +1

      Is it still working?

    • @evilz33
      @evilz33 Před 4 lety +4

      JERRY P no problems
      Yet (knock on wood) 70k miles in. Most common problems have to do with dpf egr. Have had plenty of diesel trucks in the past personal and for work so have some experience with this stuff. I’ve already looked up delete kits and they’re fairly priced for the tdi.

    • @jerryp2433
      @jerryp2433 Před 4 lety

      Does it have to be a certified used one with the fix? I found some cheap ones on car gurus, but not sure if I should stick to the certified ones...

    • @evilz33
      @evilz33 Před 4 lety +1

      JERRY P nope. You don’t even take it to the stealership.

    • @TurtleClashersRBLXPRO
      @TurtleClashersRBLXPRO Před 4 lety

      the Atlas didn't exists 2 years ago....

  • @brimerz8631
    @brimerz8631 Před 4 lety +11

    I have a 2014 Touareg TDI and I love it. It’s such an underrated car. Feels like a steal for all you get feature wise and its specs.

    • @ericbraun4652
      @ericbraun4652 Před 3 lety +1

      How is the reliability? I'd LOVE that car but the repair bills make me hesitate.

  • @NorthernsoulBoy63
    @NorthernsoulBoy63 Před rokem +1

    Just purchased a 2005 tourareg 2.5tdi today. Thanks for the information. David from Scotland

  • @KP-nj1oo
    @KP-nj1oo Před 4 lety +92

    I'll bet Touareg would win 0-60 test if you wouldn't make it slower by installing larger diameter A/T tires

    • @theBnoJ
      @theBnoJ Před 4 lety +4

      Wouldn't be any good off road either

    • @TheSovietHotDog
      @TheSovietHotDog Před 4 lety +9

      Would do better 0-60 if he held the brakes, reved it up a bit and started from a higher rpm. How you just gunna start from idle and floor it?

    • @ogalief
      @ogalief Před 4 lety +11

      They also put regular gas in it (says premium required on the gas cap). That would make the engine adjust the timing for less power and efficiency

    • @RingerRacing
      @RingerRacing Před 4 lety +1

      @@TheSovietHotDog ya it was a ROOKIE move by the driver, sorry bro, next time brake torque it, read how car and driver test their cars and get schooled for the better of mankind

    • @lotsad1234
      @lotsad1234 Před 4 lety +8

      Thats right, you should measure with the stock tires, and compare. Also run the correct fuel!

  • @s.topper9918
    @s.topper9918 Před 4 lety +7

    Wow! I'm going to look for all these hidden gems in my 2008 V8 touareg. Thank you!!!!

  • @csjames69
    @csjames69 Před 4 lety +13

    Touareg was made in Germany, Atlas made in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Former is a luxury vehicle, the latter an average SUV.

    • @NewJerseyPhiladelphiaDelaware
      @NewJerseyPhiladelphiaDelaware Před 4 lety +1

      Crazy how a cars location of manufacture is relevant to the overall build quality of a vehicle.

    • @christopherluce8779
      @christopherluce8779 Před 4 lety +2

      Touareg has always been made in Bratislava, Slovakia- not Germany.

    • @alless22
      @alless22 Před 4 lety +1

      @@NewJerseyPhiladelphiaDelaware the build quality is still set by manufacturer and not by location. American standarts are different yet atlas and touareg are not for same customers. Touareg is a high class SUV and in eu that thing costs double the Atlas does.

  • @Tripp55
    @Tripp55 Před 3 lety +2

    This was a great idea for a video. I love driving Touareg's. They feel so solid and luxurious.

  • @Epik-hm8ws
    @Epik-hm8ws Před 4 lety +13

    Rear seat folding in the touareg was made like this to give the car a tight underbody. No hanging belly sliding on the rocks

    • @larstomasson9244
      @larstomasson9244 Před 3 lety

      That sounds like the biggest load BS I ever heard.

    • @Epik-hm8ws
      @Epik-hm8ws Před 3 lety +2

      @Lars Tomasson Really? The Touran, Golf, Passats of the mid 2000s had flat folding seats too. Why not put them in the Touareg? Because the seat bottom would be lower and then the Touareg wouldn‘t have the 4 inches more ground clearance.

  • @ronsmith7880
    @ronsmith7880 Před 4 lety +10

    Thanks again TFL for bringing out the car again...when can we see more of it.. The Toureg is a favorite for me...I'd buy it from Roman if I had $4600.

    • @dzelpwr
      @dzelpwr Před 4 lety +1

      I think you'd have to wrestle it away from Tommy. He seems to like it a lot :P

  • @mahsiege
    @mahsiege Před 4 lety +9

    Great videos! FYI - An old Touareg feature you keep missing is that IT DOES have a tow hook. That eye shaped screw thing to the right of the spare tire can be screwed into 4 different points on the vehicle (two on the front and two on the back) as needed to tow you out of a jam. There's a smaller metal piece beside it that "unlocks" the panels to access the tow hook points. Learned that from tow truck driver last winter after owning mine for almost 10 years!

  • @tw9871
    @tw9871 Před 4 lety +12

    I'll take the Touareg. I have always loved those. The first gen was the best. The Atlas is meh.

  • @FearsomeWarrior
    @FearsomeWarrior Před 2 lety

    Pulling a small camper through the Rockies during snowstorms to get the the fresh pow is what this does for me. Touareg can easily pull out a full size truck from a ditch in snow. The looks on their faces when I hop out with a toe-strap is priceless.

  • @lawison
    @lawison Před 4 lety +10

    Does 0-60 test with road tires on one vehicle and offroad tyres on another...seems fair

  • @SteveBoyer10
    @SteveBoyer10 Před 4 lety +6

    I'd love to see a 2017 Touareg thrown into the review!

  • @cryptoplumplori9466
    @cryptoplumplori9466 Před 4 lety +4

    I am german and I'm shocked to see what happened to volkswagen. they've cut costs and standardized their engineering style over nearly all models wich seems pretty cheap. however I slightly prefer the plain design to that old chrome details, I'm really shocked about the decline of functionality, offroad capability and mataerial quality... hope they will get back there one day

  • @chassdesk
    @chassdesk Před 4 lety +3

    Great video Tommy make me miss my old Vw Touareg and want another and not want an Atlas.

  • @houseofdiesel
    @houseofdiesel Před 4 lety +7

    Nothing can touch a V10 TDi Touareg.

  • @marcuscolbert5996
    @marcuscolbert5996 Před 4 lety +3

    Couple of things about the T1 Touareg. You dont vae to hold the key until it starts. just turn it and let go and it will start . There is a hidden storage box under the passenger seat in the front and you forgot to show the part of the center console box that holds up beverage bottles along with being an arm rest lol and the Radios DO have a auxillary inpur option . theres a vacant spot in the back of the head unit where the cable connects. and now theres a aftermarket Bluetooth auxillary and sandisc connection upgrade to he 2004s. (2005 and up had analog amps where they can just swap out to an android head unit .....2004 had digital making the upgrade difficult

  • @aardwolfweb
    @aardwolfweb Před 4 lety +4

    The Atlas sounds like my wife's 4 cylinder 2006 CRV.
    Also, every time I watch one of these Touareg videos I decide I want one. Then I'm reminded of the mileage vs my 2003 TDI and nope out.

  • @markspence3750
    @markspence3750 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Best review ever. I have a 2006 V8 Touareg. A new alternator costs $500.

  • @takayama1638
    @takayama1638 Před 4 lety +5

    Head room and ease of getting into the dagnabbed things. That’s what I want. And ground clearance. I hate dragging my hind end on the pavement feeling.

  • @kevinkenny9355
    @kevinkenny9355 Před 4 lety +4

    I would really like to see a comparison between a basic Touareg vs a fully loaded Atlas

  • @kellyx57
    @kellyx57 Před 4 lety

    Great video! Thanks! Been considering an old Touareg to replace my aging '99 Avant, but slightly turned off by the lower gas mileage of a Touareg. Off subject, but what kind of backpack is that.? I'm looking for something like that w/ lots of pockets and storage.

  • @JMacGyver1
    @JMacGyver1 Před 4 lety +41

    VW should bring over the new Touareg as a top of the line model, even if it’s priced more similarly to the Q7 or Cayenne. It’s just so far better than the soccer mom Atlas. As a 2014 Touareg TDI owner, when I eventually need to get rid of the Touareg, I’d never even consider the Atlas in its current form.

    • @ryanl1782
      @ryanl1782 Před 4 lety +5

      The problem is, no one will buy it like no one bought the last one. Not many people are prepared to pay a premium for a VW.

    • @JMacGyver1
      @JMacGyver1 Před 4 lety +8

      Ryan L A lot has changed in just the last few years, with consumers paying $50k+ for SUV’s with lesser quality. I think VW was simply ahead of their time with the Touareg here in the US.

    • @ryanl1782
      @ryanl1782 Před 4 lety

      @@JMacGyver1 VW just can't command top dollar in the US. Every time they try to charge more than their value branded vehicles, they fail. Other brands could do this...just not VW. People still look at VW as the company that made a cheap Beetle.

    • @unintentionallyfire
      @unintentionallyfire Před 4 lety

      Even if it doesn’t sell well, they should bring it in as a halo model.

    • @ryanl1782
      @ryanl1782 Před 4 lety +1

      @@unintentionallyfire VW is bringing over the Arteon and dealers are upset because they are already having to discount the shit out of them to move them off the lots. Not many people will pay premium money for a VW.

  • @cenationgreatestFan
    @cenationgreatestFan Před 4 lety +26

    Used Touareg's value shot up now 😂😂

    • @AS-hu2ek
      @AS-hu2ek Před 4 lety

      Not in the United States...

    • @leonbuksh6287
      @leonbuksh6287 Před 4 lety

      Most of the features on the old touareg are paid for extras so not a good test for interior equipment.

  • @ristekostadinov2820
    @ristekostadinov2820 Před 4 lety +7

    The comparation that you are trying to make is the same as 2004-2006 Phaeton and a 2019 Passat.

    • @v12mercedes-benz72
      @v12mercedes-benz72 Před 4 lety

      If the new Passat has bigger size than old Phaeton, then they can do comparation between those two.

  • @mattinahat5346
    @mattinahat5346 Před 4 lety +1

    10:56 Nice little Krteček there on a dashboard :D

  • @MilanStier
    @MilanStier Před 4 lety

    God I luv your Touareg videos. I wish you could find other 'hidden gems' SUVs like it, so you could make content about those.

    • @larstomasson9244
      @larstomasson9244 Před 3 lety

      there are others, like the land rover, or Nissan 4xPro

  • @kowalskidiazdegeras9190
    @kowalskidiazdegeras9190 Před 4 lety +5

    Some of the interior of the old Touareg looks from the Phaeton, specially the steering wheel!

  • @mmacphersonn
    @mmacphersonn Před 4 lety +20

    When your 5k toureg has the same headlight clusters as a 1 million dollar Bugatti lol

    • @dubber2001
      @dubber2001 Před 4 lety

      Faiiryliigxts when there's a problem with them it feels as expensive as one too. Haha.

  • @typxxilps
    @typxxilps Před 4 lety +2

    Regarding german overengineering:
    there is a manual that explains in pictures how to turn over that cussion
    And then you have a real SUV in use, maximum usability or space that is only possible with that moving hinge.
    Would you love to hit the ceiling with your head every few seconds due to a higher cussion position to get an higher positioned hinge that is needed to get the cussion vertical to get a plane + deep trunk?
    The Touareg is a real Porsche era piece of engineering developed under Piech era, a grandson of the old Ferdinand Porsche based on his thoughts about a modular system of sharing platforms across the VW brands from Porsche over Audi to VW. In the VW all these options Porsche driver had to pay for were included.
    Who looked for quality and not the fame of a brand could get everything for cheap from VW ... and so the volume of the complete production reached a volume that offered maximum of profit - just by scale they otherwise could not make.
    Remember: in europe a Touareg was an alien regarding its size. Unuseable in italians small streets, uncomfortable in european parking lots .. but too small for american buyers.
    For that time they made a damn good job cause you look at it as 15 year old piece but its early development stages and design sketches had started in the last century just 20 years ago.
    Pretty long way and a car still good in shape even its higher percentage of electronic & mechatronic components.

    • @TheOneFu33
      @TheOneFu33 Před 4 lety

      You should write a book. Lmao

    • @typxxilps
      @typxxilps Před 4 lety

      @@TheOneFu33 no, we build cars and sell them. Like our grandpas engineered these overengineered Tiger Tanks that knocked the cheaply built Shermans out that the Sherman crews did not love. They preferred and hoped for a tank like the tiger or Panther ...
      Let's wait and see how the next generations will outperform the competition...

  • @CCYYYYYYYY
    @CCYYYYYYYY Před rokem +2

    Touareg still looks beautiful. My favourite SUV of all time.

  • @stevesherwood1791
    @stevesherwood1791 Před 4 lety +3

    I picked up a 2016 Touareg TDI in March of this year. Love it. But I'd like to see a similar comparison with the Treg you're sporting.

    • @larstomasson9244
      @larstomasson9244 Před 3 lety

      The third gen Touareg is much better than the first gen, but it unfortunately lost the low range transfer case here in the US.

    • @stevesherwood1791
      @stevesherwood1791 Před 3 lety

      @@larstomasson9244 true. But first gear is pretty low and while it's not a direct replacement for LRTC it helps.

  • @bmwloco
    @bmwloco Před 4 lety +16

    Tourareg = Quality. Atlas = bargain bin hauler

    • @vwsaiphone
      @vwsaiphone Před 4 lety +1

      Dean Klein the atlas isn’t bad but it’s not as great it’s sad

    • @AS-hu2ek
      @AS-hu2ek Před 4 lety

      Stop.

  • @BradBauter
    @BradBauter Před 4 lety

    Great comparison for someone in the market for an atlas. Thanks!

  • @jobannycruz9803
    @jobannycruz9803 Před 3 lety

    I have the same year with the V8 but in black and I love it,oh you forgot the folding mirror's bud great vid.

  • @ronaldjordan690
    @ronaldjordan690 Před 4 lety +4

    Like your vids! But I don't think that 0-60 was fair with those offroad tires on the touareg, I would've changed back to original for that test. Good videos keep it up

  • @fintrollpgr
    @fintrollpgr Před 4 lety +3

    Didn't anybody else noticed that the off-road mode image in the Atlas was showing a road? I think it is telling...

  • @UltraFence
    @UltraFence Před 2 lety

    I have a 2010 TDi made for US market, (Gen 1) with air suspension and start button. But yesterday I bought a 2011 TDi built for Mexican market, no EPA crap (gen 2) no Diesel emission fluid or diesel particulate filter, but no push button start and no air suspension. I expect 10% better fuel economy on the Gen 2 and like the looks, but the Mexican Market version is very different to my one year older Gen 1. On Gen 1 we have electric lift gate, ESP to just touch door handle with key on your person, and a real dipstick, and a more diverse armrest. On the Gen 2 we have electronically monitored oil level (no dipstick) and bigger/better infotainment with bluetooth audio and phone. Gen 1 did phone, but not music streaming. No trailer hitch on Gen 2, but actual brake attenuation on Gen 1.
    Better backup camera and more external lidar sensors on Gen 2, and an AMAZING sky roof with remote curtain. Headrests got too complicated on Gen 2 trying to move in multiple directions and require a CZcams lesson in adjustment, not very cool. All in all, I gotta say the Gen 1 quality was a "spare nothing approach" while Gen 2 (maybe because it was destined for Mexico?) has many cost cutting features. Both drive great Gen 1 has a 6 speed auto trans with a real dedicated low gear with locking diffs from the factory in addition to 4.5 inches elevator mode and adjustable ride. Gen 2 has 8 speed trans with paddle shifters on the steering wheel if you want to race, and has a highway and off road setting. Seriously think Gen 1 would rule in off-road comparison. But I have my 2018 Hilux TDi 4x4 quad cab for off-roading. I use my Tregs as a grand touring vehicles with 1,000km/600 mile ranges, with the ability to suprise folks as what they can do off-road. Where Gen 1 might do as well as a 100 series LC and better than a Range Rover for sure, Gen 2 is probably just on par with them.

  • @TITAN59907
    @TITAN59907 Před 3 lety +1

    I had the old Touareg v6 tdi full options for a few years... it was and it is awesome in offroad, plus it has the compressor pump capability. My dad has the new one, front camera - good for offroad, diesel 286hp 6.1 (realistic 6.2 if you know how to accelerate it correctly) sec 0-62 mph so... for offroad the old one, for everything else the new one is better! P.s. in the old one the aux is audio in. Back then that was excelent to connect a mp3 player to the car.

  • @stephenjones6902
    @stephenjones6902 Před 4 lety +5

    I love the V8 great video thanks

  • @Tcflohr
    @Tcflohr Před 4 lety +2

    One was designed for the euro market, the other for the American market

    • @vr6gls
      @vr6gls Před 4 lety

      Tim Flohr When I hear a manufacturer utter the words, “Designed for the American market”. I already know it’s going to look and drive like crap. 💩

  • @itzanopinion
    @itzanopinion Před 4 lety +1

    without even thinking, I'm taking the 04' Touareg....V8, Air Ride Suspension....friend had an 04' back in the day and it was pretty sweet...

  • @MarcoAurelio-jj4ho
    @MarcoAurelio-jj4ho Před 4 lety

    Very cool. Thanks.

  • @dcolavecchio
    @dcolavecchio Před 4 lety +3

    When folding the Touareg back seats lift the front of the bottom cushion only, not the back, you are fighting the hinge. I have a similar system in my Ford Escape, but instead of a hinge there is just a bent wire that acts as a hinge. And no place to store the headrests, which is why my father lost one when he owned it.

    • @DPaulk87
      @DPaulk87 Před 4 lety +1

      Came to the comments to say this. It's the same design as the 4th generation Golf/Jetta platform (just a little bit better hardware).
      Grab the leather handle and pull it (kind of snatch it actually) straight up, then the rear of the seat bottom will slide forward allowing it to clear the seat back.

  • @dugfriendly
    @dugfriendly Před 4 lety +5

    What happened to the scoreboard?

  • @rodpetrie1088
    @rodpetrie1088 Před 9 měsíci +1

    The old Touareg had outstanding build quality and frankly looks. I have owned three old shape Touaregs and I still have one now (2006). Sure it drives a bit like a bus but it works and it looks great and everything still works, 17 years old !! That's a quality built car.

  • @gianlucaa.4480
    @gianlucaa.4480 Před 11 měsíci

    Which kind of tires has the Old Touareg? BF All Terrain, measure? Thx

  • @PLATINUM2U
    @PLATINUM2U Před 4 lety +6

    OLD is GOLD😇

  • @JRCarReviews
    @JRCarReviews Před 4 lety +5

    I am sorry but Atlas is not “new” Touareg! New Touareg is available only in Europe.

  • @karimalameddine5092
    @karimalameddine5092 Před 4 lety

    Thanks again! Some of that tech like the surround cameras system can actually be retrofitted!

  • @reikoNagasse
    @reikoNagasse Před 4 lety

    Big thumbs up for that Mole (Krteček) on the dashboard !

  • @whoseyourchef2160
    @whoseyourchef2160 Před 4 lety +27

    Pickup a diesel gate era Touareg for a bargain...

    • @jeffm2636
      @jeffm2636 Před 4 lety +10

      Well said, I am a 2012 Touareg TDI Executive model owner. Found one that hit a dealer lot after it sat in a warehouse for over 16 months. VW dealer acquired it, updated the diesel certification and I found it with 60k miles and certified pre-owned for $22k.

    • @Bdillony
      @Bdillony Před 4 lety

      Got mine for $17k with 42,000 miles. Best decision ever.

  • @Stig007
    @Stig007 Před 4 lety +6

    I wish the 2nd Gen. Touareg had all the options that the 1st gen had .

  • @allosaurusfragilis7782

    Love the tire hose thing. They seem to be popular in iceland, i noticed.

  • @chloeleedow7250
    @chloeleedow7250 Před 4 měsíci

    Trims on all 2004 era vw was gorgeous, it did need repair if not well maintained and even so some things would stop need gluing and stuff lots of fabric stuff door card fabric, roof liner at times and some of the soft dashes would disintegrate if they hadn't had a cover on them all get really sticky where the leathery vinyl stuff covering the foam had been destroyed by UV but all in all just soft touch everywhere I had a mark 4 golf and now have a 2020 Golf R and my mark 4 golf probably had a higher quality interior even back then I would say it literally had almost no scratchy plastic at all if any it was built like a tank it had the hardest bumper, glass headlight housings and the crash bar that was like half the height of the bumper nearly but honestly that bumper was made of something that just it didn't break it didn't crack it just bent if anything wow even talking about it I just want to look for a nice two door GTI fourth gen to put away so much love for old Volkswagens and the engines were pretty Indestructible and very easy to work on from those generations now in my 2020 golf I wouldn't know the first thing I was doing apart from coding some of the features on cars network and modules and very basic maintenance I guess like there is so much that can go wrong in those things and mine has a lot of the same components as that big modern Beast you are driving infotainment speakers headlights pretty sure that atlas or whatever it is is based on the mqb platform same as the Gulf the Passat the Audi rs3 A3 S3 so many cars so many common components so much can go wrong 😂 I see why you have so much love for that old Beast and I feel like although it's a petrol hungry lump of a thing it proves my point that even it was built like a tank by comparison to that much bigger car

  • @derekh3577
    @derekh3577 Před 4 lety +3

    When your done with that 2004 let me know Ill buy it

  • @RiderRescue
    @RiderRescue Před 4 lety +3

    My 2010 TDI blows the Atlas away... On tech, fuel economy, off road, handling and it’s just way cooler.

    • @larstomasson9244
      @larstomasson9244 Před 3 lety

      What fuel mileage are you getting? I only get 18-23mpg and about a liter of DEF every 1k miles.

  • @jaysworld5378
    @jaysworld5378 Před 2 lety

    Is the Toureg a good competitor to the same generation/year Toyota Land Cruiser?

  • @Krnnerdboy
    @Krnnerdboy Před 3 lety

    Awesome, had no idea about the gun cubby or the aircompressor port!! Love my v10tdi

    • @larstomasson9244
      @larstomasson9244 Před 3 lety

      Ignorance is bliss, there will soon be many more things you will discover.

  • @GT402
    @GT402 Před 4 lety +23

    It's no big secret that VWs have gotten cheaper over the years.

    • @derohnenamen3476
      @derohnenamen3476 Před 4 lety +4

      are u stupid ? its because the atlas is made only for america...

    • @ismailliamsi625
      @ismailliamsi625 Před 4 lety

      VW Touareg model 2019-2020 costs around 85k euro... (Belgium) that aint cheaper 😭😭😭

    • @TheLordOfNothing
      @TheLordOfNothing Před 4 lety

      @Ismali liamsi
      Well, here in America Volkswagen has discontinued the Touareg.

    • @larstomasson9244
      @larstomasson9244 Před 3 lety

      The plastic is much better now. I don't think it is cheaper. For a utility vehicle, I want as much plastic as possible. If I could have gotten plastic instead of carpet in my new VW I would have taken it. Instead I paid a couple hundred to get plastic matts to lay over my carpet.

  • @richardguilfoyle8276
    @richardguilfoyle8276 Před 4 lety +9

    There is something wrong with that V8. My touareg does 0-60 in 7 seconds

    • @Evan2
      @Evan2 Před 4 lety +1

      All of TFL's 0-60 tests take way longer than they should. I'd guess it's because they're way above sea level.

    • @corynickoleff767
      @corynickoleff767 Před 4 lety +3

      High altitude and a high mileage engine perhaps low on compression

    • @s.c.gordon277
      @s.c.gordon277 Před 4 lety +1

      @@Evan2 @Cory Nickoleff - The off-road BF Goodrich's on the Touareg cannot be helping either.

  • @recnepSpencar
    @recnepSpencar Před 4 lety

    I gotta ask, was this filmed near Haystack Mountain, CO?

  • @bakermayfield6hunnitdan6er24

    Was this filmed near boulder reservoir?? I recognize that road lol

  • @icaughtyoubasstard4877
    @icaughtyoubasstard4877 Před 4 lety +3

    I love my 2006 V8 Touareg fully loaded with air suspension and center and rear lockers. Bought used at 125,000 miles in great condition. Though I dislike that it has to use premium gas and no aux for an MP3 player. It's well worth it. Though I miss my 2000 Jeep TJ that I built for rock crawling.

    • @ogalief
      @ogalief Před 4 lety +1

      I have a 2005 V8. If yours has the navigation, there's an ability to add an aux cord. There are leads on the back of the nav system that you can hook up a special $10 cord to and run it through the center console. Pain in the butt to install, but well worth it

    • @icaughtyoubasstard4877
      @icaughtyoubasstard4877 Před 4 lety +1

      Yup mine is equipped with a navigation system and I recall seeing that mod. I might give it a try. Thanks for the option.

    • @ogalief
      @ogalief Před 4 lety

      ICaughtYouBASStard It’s weird though, I could have sworn that the 2006 and up came with the AUX already wired. Does the storage under the center armrest have a light in it, or two RCA plugs?

    • @icaughtyoubasstard4877
      @icaughtyoubasstard4877 Před 4 lety

      Yes there is an RCA plugs inside the storage compartment. I did buy an RCA to a 3.5mm cord but it still did not work with my MP3 player.

    • @ogalief
      @ogalief Před 4 lety

      ICaughtYouBASStard Weird that it wouldn’t work. To get into AUX mode, you hit The CD button on the nav system, then hit the AUX soft key (lower right). Make sure the volume is turned up to 100% on your device

  • @SS-bp8yq
    @SS-bp8yq Před 4 lety +3

    Love my Touareg!

  • @Jaytrenkle
    @Jaytrenkle Před 4 lety +1

    About to trade in a 2012 RR sport. Would love one of these off brand Porshe's in a diesel.

  • @dec-vt100
    @dec-vt100 Před 4 lety +1

    to lift the bottom of the back seat without struggling, just pull the front of the seat up first, that releases it and then you can pull it from the back and fold it down! (it's the same on my old mk4 golf)

  • @willb3018
    @willb3018 Před 4 lety +5

    Touareg. No comparison.

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 Před 4 lety

      Well, it is in Porsche price point

  • @moritz8682
    @moritz8682 Před 4 lety +23

    In germany we say: „V8 das macht Krach in der Nacht“

    • @sonofguns_7138
      @sonofguns_7138 Před 4 lety +3

      Ich drück aufs Pedal, mir egal ob es blitzt

    • @mieperdemiep8438
      @mieperdemiep8438 Před 4 lety +1

      In the Netherlands we say ‘V6 geen stress’ geen=keine

    • @deramca2618
      @deramca2618 Před 4 lety +1

      Ploffer de Plof and we say „Haste V6 gibts mit fraun sex“

    • @no-damn-alias
      @no-damn-alias Před 4 lety

      Ich kenne das eher als Zylinder statt Kinder oder
      Hubraum statt Wohnraum

  • @syedmusahussain9407
    @syedmusahussain9407 Před 3 lety +1

    Bro, the Touareg does have the Auxiliary port and its in the storage area under your arm rest area in the center, 17:20.

  • @asdasd01
    @asdasd01 Před 4 lety +2

    This era unfortunatelly was the last that cars were practical, reliable, estetic yet with electric comfort easy to maintain and at a reasonable price. Today is just expensive tablets and plastic