There's No Single Cradle of Humankind

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    It would take decades for paleontologists to realize that maybe there wasn’t just one so-called "cradle of humankind," and realize that maybe they’d been asking the wrong question all along.
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  • @AngryKittens
    @AngryKittens Před 23 dny +1994

    "ew just dinosaurs" - snooty anthropologists

    • @KhailSOLO
      @KhailSOLO Před 23 dny +34

      😂😂😂

    • @ydid687
      @ydid687 Před 23 dny +56

      Brother ughh
      What the hell brother

    • @netsherrera7193
      @netsherrera7193 Před 23 dny +20

      "We just missed by a chunk of existance of life years" 🥲

    • @ryanreedgibson
      @ryanreedgibson Před 23 dny +26

      Awesome avatar! Slava Ukraini! From Arizona, USA!

    • @eVill420
      @eVill420 Před 23 dny +11

      @@ryanreedgibson thanks for the support for Europe

  • @kenrickman6697
    @kenrickman6697 Před 23 dny +1187

    “It’s complicated.”
    Describes family dynamics at every level, apparently.

  • @DarthChewie
    @DarthChewie Před 22 dny +394

    Where did we come from?
    Where did we go?
    Where did we come from?
    Cotton Eye Joe.

  • @aplaceinthestars3207
    @aplaceinthestars3207 Před 22 dny +336

    This is the sort of content that is great for the layperson who's been out of formal school for enough years and misses out on the current scientific consensus, especially when the last 5-10 years has had significant breakthroughs with DNA technology.

    • @RavensEagle
      @RavensEagle Před 22 dny +6

      What is the current scientific consensus then smart guy?

    • @CombatComics
      @CombatComics Před 21 dnem +16

      ​@@RavensEaglelmao what? Go read something.

    • @adronator
      @adronator Před 20 dny +23

      @@RavensEagle Current consensus is that we weren’t fashioned by a Sky Wizard out of mud and a rib.

    • @animatorofanimation128
      @animatorofanimation128 Před 18 dny +19

      @@adronatorI love how atheism is just a personality type for some people. I mean without even being prompted they HAVE to insult religious people, like they are meeting their Reddit quota for the day

    • @douglemay7989
      @douglemay7989 Před 16 dny

      @@animatorofanimation128 The culture war is raging.

  • @BlueTyphoon7
    @BlueTyphoon7 Před 23 dny +445

    I know I shouldn't giggle about it, but forgive me. The artists who make the CG renders of ancient hominids always go out of their way to censor their groins each and every time. it's just really funny to me to imagine them walking around and hunting always making sure to cover themselves from the perspective of any would-be viewers.

    • @nicholsonastrid
      @nicholsonastrid Před 23 dny +31

      I'm glad somebody else noticed

    • @chrystals.4376
      @chrystals.4376 Před 23 dny +37

      You never know if somebody is watching it on a bus.

    • @Renoroc
      @Renoroc Před 22 dny +14

      Perhaps clothing evolved to protect those areas from sharp teeth, hooves and horns?

    • @DrakeN-ow1im
      @DrakeN-ow1im Před 22 dny +51

      Much of the blame for that can be accredited to the Abrahamic religions et al.

    • @ikebeckman1074
      @ikebeckman1074 Před 22 dny +41

      That gazelle’s ear was doing some heavy lifting for sure

  • @lavioliberty8066
    @lavioliberty8066 Před 23 dny +335

    In 2022, Japan's national museum of science in Ueno held a special exhibition on this exact topic which was amazing. From the failure in finding the origin of homosapien to their excellently successful collection of dinosaur fossils.

    • @PresidentEvil2
      @PresidentEvil2 Před 23 dny

      The Pacific was crossed 13,000 years ago by boat. Asians landed in south america

    • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
      @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 Před 19 dny +8

      I guess one anthropologist's trash is another dinosaurologist's treasure.

    • @daltongalloway
      @daltongalloway Před 12 dny

      “Great now we have to make a theme park”

    • @yourhuckleberry6757
      @yourhuckleberry6757 Před 6 dny

      Japan allied with Germany for multiple reasons.
      Look up endogenous Japanese..
      Im sure they found what they were looking for.

  • @chromothor6266
    @chromothor6266 Před 23 dny +411

    The bottleneck that happens when a subset of a population migrates to a new habitat is more specifically called "founder effect" while what you might call a "classical bottleneck" happens due to population shrinkage like in cheetahs

    • @helenamcginty4920
      @helenamcginty4920 Před 22 dny +35

      I read a few years ago that our species did in fact hit a bottleneck about 70,000 yrs ago. We were down to about 1000 or so 'breeding pairs' according to one suggestion.

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz Před 21 dnem +20

      Founder effect is correct but bottleneck is also valid, as it's an analogy and not a precise technical term, also there's no substantive difference between the two phenomenons you exemplify: they both produce essentially the same results (some original genetics are removed from the result on "random" basis).

    • @zo5679
      @zo5679 Před 19 dny +5

      ​@@helenamcginty4920is it because the Toba eruptions?

    • @joycebrewer4150
      @joycebrewer4150 Před 11 dny

      ​@helenamcginty4920 Less than a dozen pairs of humans at one point.

    • @aste4949
      @aste4949 Před 8 dny +2

      ​​@@joycebrewer4150Worst one was estimated down to 1,280 breeding individuals, still more than a dozen individuals thankfully. I'm definitely curious on which if any of the proposed bottleneck incidents get borne out by further research. Genetics is such a powerful tool!

  • @dorongrossman-naples9207
    @dorongrossman-naples9207 Před 23 dny +245

    I love that you guys include the historical background for these discoveries. It really helps contextualize them.

    • @judgeberry6071
      @judgeberry6071 Před 23 dny +2

      As opposed to what?

    • @AnaphylaxisByPeanutBrittle
      @AnaphylaxisByPeanutBrittle Před 23 dny +46

      ​@@judgeberry6071as opposed to just saying "this team of people found this stuff". As opposed to not including historical background that does not provide any context or extra information.

  • @apestrong
    @apestrong Před 23 dny +159

    The bottleneck of genes leaving Africa is really fascinating! Gives a whole new perspective on the diversity of life

    • @nakenmil
      @nakenmil Před 22 dny +91

      It's also a clear indicator why it's completely nonsensical to talk about "human races" sorted by continental origin (ie. Europeans, Asians, Africans, etc.), because the genetic diversity WITHIN Africa is far greater than the entire rest of the world.
      If I remember correctly, mitochondrial lineages have been traced back to a single split: there's the Khoi-San peoples of the Kalahari, and then there's... EVERYONE ELSE. So basically, a Zulu and an Inuit and a Frenchman and a Korean are all more closely related genetically than any of these are to the indigenous people of the Kalahari. Pretty wild.

    • @notaspeck6104
      @notaspeck6104 Před 22 dny +20

      @nakenmil Literally. Like race and culture are two distinct things. The layman’s perception of race is dated and primitive.

    • @patreekotime4578
      @patreekotime4578 Před 22 dny +37

      ​@@notaspeck6104It's almost like race is just a social construct.

    • @Gildedmuse
      @Gildedmuse Před 21 dnem +9

      ​@@patreekotime4578Can we get maybe get some new plans to change up this construct? Just a little. You know take out some racism here, add some understanding of human evolution there....

    • @blazer9547
      @blazer9547 Před 21 dnem +3

      All non Africans are genetically similar

  • @golden_smaug
    @golden_smaug Před 23 dny +80

    Lucy's distant cousins were estranged and didn't want to be found

    • @koreyb
      @koreyb Před 15 dny

      Lucy took the secret of why Homo Erectus all died out to her grave. But I think we could all guess why. If you know what I mean.

  • @aidanb.c.2325
    @aidanb.c.2325 Před 23 dny +69

    I wrote my Master's thesis on the initial human settlement of Australia and its implications for the Multiregional and Out-of-Africa models. This video feels very familiar. That could also be because I taught Intro to Human Evolution at a community college for 15 years lol.

    • @atmanebedjou8455
      @atmanebedjou8455 Před 21 dnem +4

      A lot of speculation but no evidence. A theory built on speculation.

    • @krizcillz
      @krizcillz Před 21 dnem +2

      i'm curious, what did your thesis suggest on dates and speciation?

    • @andrabook8758
      @andrabook8758 Před 20 dny +3

      I still think that all the hypotheses are incomplete. It still leave a LOT open to interpretations. To me the 1 source for all evolution has never made sense. It does not hold water for any of the other species.

    • @DesmondKarani
      @DesmondKarani Před 13 dny +4

      @@atmanebedjou8455 There's a lot of evidence on this theory. What alternative theory do you have? I'm curious.

    • @MungoManic
      @MungoManic Před 2 dny

      Is it published somewhere? I'd love to read it!

  • @experience741
    @experience741 Před 21 dnem +24

    "sir we found dinosaur fossil"
    "You're failure"

  • @lightbeingform
    @lightbeingform Před 20 dny +17

    'braided stream' is a very nice turn of phrase, i heartily approve

  • @4124V4TA-SNPCA-x
    @4124V4TA-SNPCA-x Před 23 dny +94

    When she called the dinosaur find "failure", I have heard it in Steven He's voice, loud and reverberating. 😂
    I don't know if my brains instant association is cool or disturbing.

    • @danielpicassomunoz2752
      @danielpicassomunoz2752 Před 23 dny +9

      Faaaaaaliiiure

    • @joebwannabe
      @joebwannabe Před 22 dny +9

      What da hail did you say

    • @jaidadeclouette1989
      @jaidadeclouette1989 Před 22 dny +1

      I love that guy!

    • @petsgamesandrobots438
      @petsgamesandrobots438 Před 22 dny +4

      Emotional daaamaage!

    • @alfaseng
      @alfaseng Před 22 dny +8

      "Faaaaiiiiiluuureeee. Already dead due to asteroid haiyaa, my ancestors the rats can survive a measly rock from space, let alone your cousin Timmy can survive Earth tossed out of orbit." ~ Steven He, probably

  • @colinmorris3526
    @colinmorris3526 Před 23 dny +100

    The cradle of mankind needs renaming “the classroom of mankind”

    • @DSAK55
      @DSAK55 Před 22 dny +3

      school yard of mankind

    • @almightyyt2101
      @almightyyt2101 Před 9 dny

      YoMTv Welcome to another episode of Mankinds Crib!

  • @TragoudistrosMPH
    @TragoudistrosMPH Před 23 dny +67

    7:54 one great argument against stereotypes.
    A group people can't really "all be a certain way" when genetics show just how different people actually are. :)

    • @katelynnehansen8115
      @katelynnehansen8115 Před 22 dny +12

      We’re just as different as we are the same. It’s startling to think what a small portion of our DNA responsible for our mosaic of unique traits.

    • @Bubble-Foam
      @Bubble-Foam Před 2 dny

      @@katelynnehansen8115
      It’s “small” in comparison to the sheer quantity of dna that does either really basic functions, or nothing at all.

  • @Spearca
    @Spearca Před 23 dny +49

    I thought this was building to the "Out of Africa Again and Again" model which largely synthesizes the two described.

  • @Idellphany
    @Idellphany Před 23 dny +85

    Gosh I feel incredibly validated, as I disagreed about all this with my archaeology professor back in 2002 haha. The idea of only 1 wave once was always dumb to me.

    • @orbitalvagabond7371
      @orbitalvagabond7371 Před 22 dny +9

      Well, it was only the one wave that survived extinction, unless you mean the minority genetic share of the other two species.

    • @Idellphany
      @Idellphany Před 22 dny +11

      @@orbitalvagabond7371 "In May 2023, scientists reported, based on genetic studies, a more complicated pathway of human evolution than previously understood. According to the studies, humans evolved from different places and times in Africa, instead of from a single location and period of time." wikipedia
      Also why would you ever think genetics is static? (as in it hasn't changed in 300k years) The fact that we see any other hominid dna still after how many bottle necks and 300,000 years of dna recombination is very notable.

    • @Idellphany
      @Idellphany Před 22 dny +6

      @@orbitalvagabond7371 We are only now starting to sequence really old DNA and we will get a much better picture once this process is further explored.

    • @krizcillz
      @krizcillz Před 21 dnem

      Suffer together, had a similar experience. Archeology teachers seem to be a bad lot 😂

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz Před 21 dnem +6

      @@Idellphany - Whatever: that's just empty chatter. A typical European "multiregional" genetics is 2.4% (all of it Neanderthal and not even from European Neanderthals but Asian ones rather) and, with lesser variations, it's the same for all the rest of humans. In short: we are still more than 95% uniregional, from the Nile region to be specific.

  • @davideleazar5721
    @davideleazar5721 Před 23 dny +37

    "Ningún humano es una isla"
    Tremendo

    • @patrickf.4440
      @patrickf.4440 Před 19 dny

      A more accurate Spanish translation of John Donne's poem would be, "Ningún hombre es una isla." But I am sure Donne meant no hominid is an island .

  • @lhurst9550
    @lhurst9550 Před 23 dny +55

    It was not linear, nor a tree, but more of a bush. Many, many starts and stops and mixing.

    • @brothermine2292
      @brothermine2292 Před 23 dny +20

      Isn't the topology of a bush the same as the topology of a tree? A better analogy might be a web, which has interconnections between strands.

    • @ecurewitz
      @ecurewitz Před 23 dny +12

      Or a braided stream as mentioned

    • @Bubble-Foam
      @Bubble-Foam Před 2 dny

      @@brothermine2292
      Yeah, only difference between a bush and a tree is height.

  • @Shantosh9550
    @Shantosh9550 Před 23 dny +187

    Pls do an episode on India when it was an island during the mesozoic after breaking off from Gondwana.

    • @tim.a.k.mertens
      @tim.a.k.mertens Před 23 dny +11

      Omg yes I'm so curious about this

    • @1331423
      @1331423 Před 23 dny +8

      The Common Descent podcast has a great episode about this! Give them a try

    • @KellyClowers
      @KellyClowers Před 20 dny

      @@1331423 second that! They do great deep dives on all kinds of paleo/evolution/zoology things (and botany with Dr. Aly Baumgartner)

    • @ibrav7979
      @ibrav7979 Před 13 dny

      ​@@1331423episode number?

  • @superericdude100
    @superericdude100 Před 5 dny +3

    I love how they manage to send "the message" no matter what they are talking about

    • @richardb8104
      @richardb8104 Před 18 hodinami

      It's why PBS jumped the shark many years ago friend. Too much message, and not enough actual science.

  • @ambulocetusnatans
    @ambulocetusnatans Před 22 dny +16

    Taung Child looks like my little brother if he had facial hair at 8.

  • @malkong2784
    @malkong2784 Před 13 dny +3

    i’ve watched every video yall have, i’ve been watching since day one. I love you guys, thank you all for always giving me something educational to look forward too, it’s made my life a lot easier than yall could ever know

  • @chemquests
    @chemquests Před 23 dny +11

    This year is the 50th anniversary of discovering Lucy!

  • @chemquests
    @chemquests Před 23 dny +26

    Early misdirection on where to look also came from religious ideas like the Garden of Eden (& literalists actually expecting to find it).

    • @sophiejones3554
      @sophiejones3554 Před 20 dny +2

      Yep, that definitely played into the whole "Lemuria" thing. People really wanted to find a Garden of Eden type origin, in order to reconcile their religious beliefs with science.

  • @Gildedmuse
    @Gildedmuse Před 21 dnem +4

    6:20 Love this shot showing just how big Africa is. Maps dont always capture just how big many places are.

  • @bradw.1945
    @bradw.1945 Před 23 dny +46

    I'd be thrilled to find dinosaur bones. Maybe I should start digging up my back yard.

    • @xINVISIGOTHx
      @xINVISIGOTHx Před 23 dny +8

      I wish I lived somewhere where dinosaurs lived. I'd be digging all the time

    • @bradw.1945
      @bradw.1945 Před 23 dny +9

      No dinosaurs where I live either. The land was totally scoured by glacier activity. Everything left is either younger than a million years or from the Pleistocene.

    • @smalltime0
      @smalltime0 Před 23 dny +2

      @@bradw.1945 That's the main issue, also it'd have to be the right conditions to preserve a fossil in the first place.

    • @istvansipos9940
      @istvansipos9940 Před 23 dny +4

      KFC chicken wings. With bonus dinosaur bones

    • @DarthChewie
      @DarthChewie Před 22 dny +2

      @@bradw.1945 Unless I'm missing something, that seems like a pretty roundabout way of saying 'everything left is younger than 2.6 millions years'...
      Also, have you tried digging deeper? But learn from my mistakes: When you hit mantle, you've gone too far. It melted my shovel.

  • @Wanhope2
    @Wanhope2 Před 23 dny +10

    🎉🎉Always celebrate a new Eons video!

  • @emiliiiaaaaaa
    @emiliiiaaaaaa Před 23 dny +44

    i love this channel hopefully when i’m a paleontologist i can be a host

    • @Adi-8529
      @Adi-8529 Před 23 dny +5

      That’s such a super ambition!!!

    • @zantetsu8674
      @zantetsu8674 Před 21 dnem

      @@Adi-8529 The paleontologist part or the CZcams host part? I know which one *I* think is a worthwhile ambition ...

  • @baraskparas9559
    @baraskparas9559 Před 17 dny +3

    Great presentation as usual. Eloquent and informative.

  • @ruyfernandez
    @ruyfernandez Před 23 dny +20

    Thanks for this video! I am a student and I am writing a paper and about to start a PhD about this subject.

  • @nemosomen
    @nemosomen Před 22 dny +8

    Where did we come from? Where did we go? Where did we come from, human anthro?

  • @GLBinNP
    @GLBinNP Před 23 dny +8

    Excellent video, thanks !!

  • @PulseHistory
    @PulseHistory Před 16 dny

    ach release is like a gift! Thank you for your labor.

  • @nsl-u-boot8464
    @nsl-u-boot8464 Před 23 dny +6

    Thank you so much for making such enlightening content!

  • @Taiiena
    @Taiiena Před 23 dny +10

    Delightfully informative video👍🏾

  • @netsherrera7193
    @netsherrera7193 Před 23 dny +7

    Thank you VERY MUCH for this explanation! 🙏

  • @that_one_momo_guy
    @that_one_momo_guy Před 21 dnem +2

    Easily one of the best popular science channels out there, thank you for amazing, detailed, nuanced and critical content! PS if you guys bring back the Eons t-shirts I'll buy one instantly lol

  • @SuperLoops
    @SuperLoops Před 23 dny +21

    now I need to know why that guy thought we came from an island that sank into the indian ocean it seems like such a wild idea to pull outve nowhere

    • @smalltime0
      @smalltime0 Před 23 dny +16

      The idea predated the notion of plate tectonics and continental drift. Its seems easy to discredit with hindsight (we have tools like seismology and 'advanced' genetic testing), but basically everyone was looking to explain why its very obvious that we are one species - but why are there such radical racial differences.
      Its easy enough to explain Afro-Eurasia being fine, but you have people in the Americas, Oceania and the Pacific that wouldn't have been in contact with each other for millennia.
      Islands at the time were known to rise and fall on occasion and Lemuria sort of bridged India to Australia and Madagascar. The other cut off islands would have been the result of smaller bridges that had since disappeared.
      The basis of the wild speculation is that the Lemur are in Madagascar and India but not Africa, its not the only animal where that's true. And the theory isn't that wild when you consider during the ice age there were actually land bridges/shallower waters which did enable migration of humans (and for horses to get to asia before going extinct in the americas)

    • @ldbarthel
      @ldbarthel Před 23 dny +4

      I wouldn't say out of nowhere. There is an antecedent in the account of Atlantis from Plato. Also, the idea of a global flood as described in Genesis still had adherents.
      (FWIW, it's far more likely that the various flood narratives are based on local catastrophic events, although there is also some cross-pollination between cultures in the structure and details of the stories.)

    • @smalltime0
      @smalltime0 Před 22 dny +1

      @@ldbarthel Also the sea people in the Bronze Age collapse

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz Před 21 dnem +1

      Ever heard of "the lost continent of Lemuria"? Well, you didn't miss much, but that's what passed as respectable science a century ago or so...

    • @smalltime0
      @smalltime0 Před 21 dnem +1

      @@LuisAldamiz wow you got what the OP was talking about.
      Its easy to dismiss in the age of seismology and hydrology and the like, but trying to explain observable facts, using observable facts... Lemuria makes sense.

  • @RythmicRaindrops
    @RythmicRaindrops Před 23 dny +5

    I love these Super difficult to answer questions. It's really fun to try to comprehend those tens of thousands of years have gone into the evolution of our species, And all of the species before them

  • @zachhoff9876
    @zachhoff9876 Před 23 dny +5

    Great video! Learned a lot. Thanks

  • @JoseReyes-yn3xj
    @JoseReyes-yn3xj Před 23 dny +7

    Great video! Thank you for informing me on our (human's) history.

  • @JamesLeatherman
    @JamesLeatherman Před 23 dny +92

    I miss Steve.

  • @AvadGroup
    @AvadGroup Před 23 dny +3

    Mood changed… great day…. New video from eons 🎉🎉

  • @kiancuratolo903
    @kiancuratolo903 Před 22 dny +3

    Its so interesting that while the 'no single time and place' theory was disproven it had a kind of smaller resurrection with the qualifier 'no one time or place in Africa'

  • @70SavageCCC
    @70SavageCCC Před 20 dny

    This video was so needed!

  • @iron3491
    @iron3491 Před 12 dny +1

    There is something humbling about watching these videos. It really puts into perspective how all of our ancestors have not been struggling for better lives for decades or centuries but rather millions of years.

  • @Beryllahawk
    @Beryllahawk Před 23 dny +58

    I much prefer the interwoven braid type idea for our lineage; it seems a LOT more logical given what we know about evolution in general terms.
    Too, I reallllly think the initial ideas that there could be only one "correct human lineage" was rooted in some fairly unpleasant assumptions. Things the scientists at the time might not even have been aware of (or seen as a problem) but that definitely shaped HOW they looked for evidence and what they were willing to accept AS evidence. Which you did mention but I felt like pointing out that the systems of colonialism really did (and do) extend right through every single thing Western science has done. Glad to see us slowly but steadily shedding those old bad habits.

    • @chriswatson7965
      @chriswatson7965 Před 22 dny +5

      I don't understand your post. First you say that you prefer the braided model, then you say that there isn't a correct model and imply that believing that there can be a correct model is bad science. Please explain.

    • @tsopmocful1958
      @tsopmocful1958 Před 19 dny +4

      This video and your comment try to emphasise colonialism whenever mentioning Western history as though it defines all of Western history - including our scientific history.
      Please keep in mind that things like studying and discovering the origin of human species wouldn't have even gone beyond the level of local myths in the first place if it wasn't for the Scientific Revolution initiated by the West and still largely carried by the West.

    • @kyrab7914
      @kyrab7914 Před 18 dny +3

      There was also a lot of phrenology- reading the bumps of the skull to determine intelligence of ppl. Also influenced by our friend racism and subsequently debunked

    • @Dotsetc
      @Dotsetc Před 10 dny +3

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@tsopmocful1958I feel like only you assumed that because you mightve felt uncomfortable by it.
      Yes when it comes to subjects like this, racist undertones or full blown racism was quite a standard in the West from the 18th century on.
      They even purposefully did it to create a superiority idea backed by 'factual evidence' to the degree too many Western people believe these theories to be true to this very day.
      Doesnt mean the West hasnt contributed greatly. They just also destroyed reason just as much whenever it benefitted them.

    • @davidschaftenaar6530
      @davidschaftenaar6530 Před 7 dny

      ​​@@Dotsetc What motivated the person's reply is irrelevant, how many people share their views is irrelevant. They either have a point or they don't.
      And in this case, I think this person _does_ have a point.
      You're asserting that Western colonialism and the hair brained attempts at justifying it were and (to a significant extent) still are the dominant influence when it comes to paleoanthropology and many other fields. Even prioritizing that influence above that of reason.
      That simply isn't true. If that were the case, we would never have ended up with a scientific consensus that so thoroughly invalidates both the concept of racial superiority/inferiority and the entire concept of race as a biologically meaningful way of categorizing human beings.
      The reason those ideas are no longer accepted as scientifically valid (which, very true, they once were) is because, when scientists in the West were presented with the choice between following the evidence, or clinging to views that conveniently validated their worldview and their own position in the existing social hierarchy: They largely chose to follow the evidence.

  • @Myself-yf5do
    @Myself-yf5do Před 23 dny +8

    So Africa was so harsh that our prehistoric ancestors evolved better brains to figure out how to cope with the challenges?

  • @Alice_Walker
    @Alice_Walker Před 22 dny +2

    I absolutely LOVE these early human videos! So cool!! 💜

  • @stevefisher2553
    @stevefisher2553 Před 23 dny +4

    So cool! Ty

  • @SinKimishima
    @SinKimishima Před 23 dny +155

    My fridge is the crade of new fungi-kind

  • @viyorel
    @viyorel Před 22 dny +4

    i LOVE learning about ancient humans

  • @vladciobanu7480
    @vladciobanu7480 Před 22 dny +1

    Great insights, such complexity!

  • @AlaskanMagicK9
    @AlaskanMagicK9 Před 22 dny +2

    Love it! Reminded me of my anthropology class in high school

  • @marksmanentertainment
    @marksmanentertainment Před 23 dny +7

    I love this channel

  • @TragoudistrosMPH
    @TragoudistrosMPH Před 23 dny +26

    3:26 I love that you put the science in the context of history! ❤
    -happy patron!

  • @Peecamarke
    @Peecamarke Před 23 dny +2

    Great vid! So informative I was always confused by the different areas considered cradles of civilization va cradles of our species and etc

  • @redwolfjoy
    @redwolfjoy Před 17 dny +1

    I love this video! I very much enjoyed this one.

  • @TristanKing-dq5cd
    @TristanKing-dq5cd Před 23 dny +18

    Hella early and very excited for this episode. Thank you for helping advance the march of Knowledge!

  • @nicennice
    @nicennice Před 18 dny +5

    The only "problem" with this video is that it's only 12min long. I wish I'd studied this subject at university and not computer science 😒.

    • @CSRaleigh
      @CSRaleigh Před 9 dny +1

      Bet archeologists and anthropologists could benefit from your skillset and you could work and learn with them. Just a thought.

    • @royprovins7037
      @royprovins7037 Před 5 hodinami

      Yeah well you are probably gainfully employed too

  • @gsilcoful
    @gsilcoful Před 23 dny +2

    Thank you.

  • @guyh.4553
    @guyh.4553 Před 17 dny

    Great episode as normal!

  • @SacrosanctStories
    @SacrosanctStories Před 22 dny +9

    Thank you for recognizing indigenous people at the ends of your episodes. I have been watching the show for years, and appreciate this sooo much. Also, I miss the jokes....

    • @chiccngeorge3058
      @chiccngeorge3058 Před 18 dny +1

      This entire video was about indigenous peoples lmao I don’t see how you people can think there’s a difference from native Africans and any other native group on earth.

  • @aashutoshmule
    @aashutoshmule Před 22 dny +3

    'No human is an island'
    I like that statement

    • @ktspirit1
      @ktspirit1 Před 20 dny

      No Man is an Island. A poem by John Donne.

    • @aashutoshmule
      @aashutoshmule Před 20 dny +1

      @@ktspirit1 Oh...I did not know that...thanks for sharing. Will read the poem.

    • @atomictraveller
      @atomictraveller Před 8 dny

      i was gonna debate but ur right, once ur an island, they call you a demon or some other shi not man
      then they HSS you from the FUSION center

  • @brucewayne000
    @brucewayne000 Před 17 dny +2

    Great content!!!

  • @marqessanzcora4089
    @marqessanzcora4089 Před 23 dny +1

    As always..., thanks

  • @notimetolive12
    @notimetolive12 Před 23 dny +15

    Was Lemuria full of Golem people and loved music and symphonies??
    (I am kidding,, It's a game reference)..

    • @texasbeast239
      @texasbeast239 Před 23 dny +5

      Poor Sméagol, we barely knew ye.

    • @notimetolive12
      @notimetolive12 Před 23 dny +4

      @@texasbeast239 I was talking about Genshin, not Lotr..
      It's Golem, not gollum..
      But anyway, happy day 😊

    • @misterbadguy7325
      @misterbadguy7325 Před 22 dny +2

      Lemuria got picked up in occultism, hence it tends to show up in that kind of literature.

    • @MegaJessness
      @MegaJessness Před 22 dny +1

      Naw, Lemuria was totally full of ancient humans who had alchemy figured out and were mostly water Adepts :D

  • @mistergoats4380
    @mistergoats4380 Před 23 dny +5

    Yeah, life is often not that simple.

  • @Serenity_Dee
    @Serenity_Dee Před 21 dnem +2

    2:13 When I was a teenager (30+ years ago) the estimate for divergence from chimpanzees and bonobos was 2 or 3 mya, according to what I remember reading at the time. Of course, at the time, we also thought New World monkeys were more closely related to Old World monkeys than either group is to apes, and that the ape lineage split off before that split, so monkeys and apes were two different clades. Now I know that genomics and cellular studies have conclusively demonstrated that New World monkeys split off from the Old World monkey lineage much earlier than we did, and apes are also in the monkey clade.

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz Před 21 dnem +2

      Should be at least 8 million years, notably because Sahelanthropus is already very clearly in our line and not theirs (upright walking, some brain features like us even if it was still a small brain). Various more serious estimates are between 8 Ma to maybe as much as 17 Ma (I lean for 10-12 Ma).
      A key calibration point is the split between chimps and bonobos, which must coincide with the formation of the Congo River basin, which is not precisely dated but probably c. 1.7 Ma ago.

  • @larrytuft9782
    @larrytuft9782 Před 19 hodinami

    Thanks!

  • @mjacobs8139
    @mjacobs8139 Před 23 dny +3

    Brb. Gotta watch the Kendrick video and come back 4:57

  • @dr.victorvs
    @dr.victorvs Před 22 dny +5

    Map projections that aren't area-corrected, like Mercator's, would have made it look more unlikely that humans came from Africa, just due to how small it makes Africa seem. Africa is in fact 30.37 million km², compared to Europe's 10.53 million km².

  • @highfive7689
    @highfive7689 Před 23 dny +1

    Kallie Moore, thank you for a wonderfully presented program. I also know that some of your own researches may have been used in the programming. Lots of hard work from all of you. Absolutely well thought out explanation that takes into account all the contradictory theories, and yet unites them. We can call it - The Unifying theory of Homo Sapiens evolution. - lol. But, it is the only concept that takes into account genetic, geological, Time scales and physical fossil distributions.

  • @dwilly8381
    @dwilly8381 Před 22 dny

    This is. one of my top fav videos thus far

  • @MrJacksonstudios
    @MrJacksonstudios Před 23 dny +4

    She's so cute, in a science way.

  • @leeshmonsterzero
    @leeshmonsterzero Před 23 dny +3

    @5:40 does anyone else hear a Red-winged blackbird?

    • @stopdacap2991
      @stopdacap2991 Před 23 dny

      I definitely heard it.

    • @GillianMStarlight
      @GillianMStarlight Před 22 dny

      It sounds like one, at least it's not the red-tailed hawk sound that almost always gets dubbed over bald eagles. It helps that I saw and heard maybe dozens of them last Sunday.

  • @eschwarz1003
    @eschwarz1003 Před 23 dny +2

    so fascinating

  • @Goomba2007
    @Goomba2007 Před 11 dny +1

    The idea that humans all came from a now sunken island is kinda fun. Evidence, as stated, suggests otherwise but the idea that we are all displaced natives of some forgotten continent has narrative appeal

  • @xyzpdq1122
    @xyzpdq1122 Před 23 dny +3

    No bad jokes!?!? Kallie…

  • @eclecticaaronbentley
    @eclecticaaronbentley Před 22 dny +4

    An informative and entertaining episode as usual, but what was up with the audio? It sounds like multiple sections were re-recorded away from the studio.

  • @windlessoriginals1150
    @windlessoriginals1150 Před 22 dny

    Thank you

  • @threejaguar
    @threejaguar Před 23 dny +2

    We do have a single point of original origin, but finding it will be difficult. At some point, our last common ancestor with the Chimp/ape line merged the 2nd and 3rd gene into one gene to form our line of descent.

  • @kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061
    @kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061 Před 23 dny +13

    The origin of Fire and Art might be further back in history than we thought and neither are homo sapiens in origin.
    Fire--some mild evidence points to Homo erectus and art might date before us contemporary humans (And no, it's not Neanderthal--there is evidence it goes back even further according to one doc I saw). ^^ Sticking in my anthro degree stick for maybe future episodes.

    • @Toxicpoolofreekingmascul-lj4yd
      @Toxicpoolofreekingmascul-lj4yd Před 23 dny

      I read a hypothesis that our early evolution was in a very active volcanic area with lava and fire as a constant presence on the landscape for millions of years.
      He speculated we learned how to use it and control it gradually as we became habituated to it's presence but didn't leave evidence because we were simply using fire naturally present and not yet making hearths or creating fire from scratch. That's just the broad outlines but it was intriguing and explained a lot. I suspect he may becon to something.

    • @kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061
      @kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061 Před 22 dny

      @@Toxicpoolofreekingmascul-lj4yd They found some mild evidence for fire pits for Homo Erectus which shows ability to control fire, though this is kinda disputed, we are 100% sure it's Homo Heidelbergensis had it. The lava idea I haven't heard widespread that much, but early settlements did set up near large deposits. But looked it up... sounds like you're referring to "Speculations about the Effects of Fire and Lava Flows on Human Evolution" by Michael Medler? I should note his main field of study is Geography (Which also deals with humanity as well), but there isn't much follow up to back him quite yet and most of his ideas are speculation if you read his paper carefully. But finding hard evidence would be difficult.
      Homo Naledi according to the Netflix documentary about them had art. Which just blows your mind. But Neanderthal (whose classification is under dispute) also had art. So this might argue that we're missing art of our early human ancestors? Given how Naledi art is much like later art in caves, it leaves a lot of questions.

    • @franceshorton918
      @franceshorton918 Před 22 dny

      Just following along your thoughts about early hominids being familiar with fire, long enough to learn about it.... WHT didn't other animals learn to be 'not afraid' of fire?
      Lions, wolves, bears, and gorillas,, etc, they are all very intelligent mammals.
      I know we had opposable thumbs, but t would they have been ready for the fine muscle control and the care needed to avoid burns?
      Most non domesticated animals avoid fire

    • @Toxicpoolofreekingmascul-lj4yd
      @Toxicpoolofreekingmascul-lj4yd Před 22 dny

      @@franceshorton918 probably the ability to pick up a burning stick and also feed it fuel for which opposable thumbs would be essential. Intelligence and a larger brain, which meant curiosity certainly were important.
      Several scenarios: a predator chasing you, in desperation you run towards a burning lava pool and the predator stops chasing you. This becomes a regular tactic beginning our relationship with fire which we now see as a friend. Perhaps you even begin to live near it.
      An animal burned by a fire is scavenged, the cooked meat much easier to chew and digest.
      The early hominins begin bringing scavenged meat to fires or lava pools and deliberately cooking it.
      Those seem pretty plausible, maybe one led to the other? We know chimpanzees can learn a new skill and pass it to their offspring, there are whole groups that do things others don't.
      It's a form of culture, I could see a group learning to use fire, it becomes part of their culture and a strong evolutionary pressure ensues making that group evolve much differently than all the others.
      What do you think?

    • @kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061
      @kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061 Před 22 dny

      @@franceshorton918 Other animals, especially on the open savannah, likely were used to being surrounded by fire, but with the inability to *control* it.
      For humans (in the deleted reply for whatever reason even though the deleted reply had nothing threatening or mean in it but was pure academia and was merely citing sources without any links) the evolution of the hominin brain might have depended very much on cooked meat from several supporting articles.
      In another words, there is a link between bigger brains and meat, though there is also the sea hypothesis out there too.
      The ability to control fire would help kill all sorts of things in the food: parasites, harmful bacteria, and also give defense. So yes, those thumbs probably played a role over time with the control of fire.

  • @g-rexsaurus794
    @g-rexsaurus794 Před 22 dny +5

    "other cultures had their own origin stories"
    And? They are not scientific

    • @hattielankford4775
      @hattielankford4775 Před 22 dny +1

      Did you watch the video?

    • @g-rexsaurus794
      @g-rexsaurus794 Před 21 dnem +1

      @@hattielankford4775 I did, why? It's not particularly relevant

    • @davidschaftenaar6530
      @davidschaftenaar6530 Před 7 dny

      Ah, yes. That'll be the influence of a certain postmodern ideology that views evidence-based scientific theories as just another kind of story, no more or less valid than any other.

  • @abhayanand9585
    @abhayanand9585 Před 14 dny +2

    I love the work you too... I think no one in CZcams makes content related to evolution, And Being Bio student I love learning about evolution! ❤❤❤

  • @djSpinege
    @djSpinege Před 12 dny +1

    I Clicked on this just to say the title made me literally face palm.

  • @LivingWithGout
    @LivingWithGout Před 13 dny +3

    I know for a fact I came out of the great rift of Africa

  • @mrrobototoo6663
    @mrrobototoo6663 Před 23 dny +5

    If all these different population were able to interbreed with each other, then they were all part of the same species, as per the conventional biological species concept. The account you've given simply pushes back the question to what was the most recent common ancestor that all these population shared. Even the diagram at 10:15 has a single original stem.

    • @Toxicpoolofreekingmascul-lj4yd
      @Toxicpoolofreekingmascul-lj4yd Před 23 dny +5

      Species isn't that cut and dried. Lions and tigers are certainly separate species yet still capable of reproduction with each other.
      Even a few case of different genera successfully cross breeding exist.

    • @Lau3464l
      @Lau3464l Před 19 dny

      “Species” is a man-made construct. The lines between species can become incredibly blurry as we move further back in time.

    • @agab3asbgedsbef479
      @agab3asbgedsbef479 Před 10 dny +1

      @@Toxicpoolofreekingmascul-lj4yd yet those species “tions and “ligers” cant reproduce because theyre infertile
      if humans could reproduce with other subspecies and they would be infertile then those mixed species genes would never reach us
      because we cant reproduce with infertile people you know? infertile people die without kids
      even if we all reproduced with another subspecies we would just all be infertile and die go extinct

  • @tanvirjalal4657
    @tanvirjalal4657 Před 23 dny +1

    Excellent

  • @TheStrengthofBeer
    @TheStrengthofBeer Před 17 dny

    This new hypothesis is so different (but fascinating) from what I've learned for the last 40 years. I like it! Our story keeps getting better.

  • @NachtmahrNebenan
    @NachtmahrNebenan Před 23 dny +13

    Walking on two legs seems to have developed multiple times. But only we survived for still unknown reasons.

    • @michaelrunco5940
      @michaelrunco5940 Před 23 dny +3

      Of course you mean specifically in apes.

    • @NachtmahrNebenan
      @NachtmahrNebenan Před 23 dny +2

      @@michaelrunco5940 Thank you for the addition 🌺

    • @nebulan
      @nebulan Před 23 dny +7

      I'm sure many factors. "It's complicated" covers much of science and history. Homo sapiens also has other advantages: throwing, sweat, cooking meat to support bigger brains, etc. I'm sad we don't know our ancient cousins today.

    • @colinmorris3526
      @colinmorris3526 Před 23 dny +2

      In the video she mentions that one species did not replace all, rather through interbreeding amongst different populations that had the same origin(homo erectus) we are the surviving result of that happening, also all of the populations were upright and walked and their genes(or rather the best of those genes) survive amongst us.

    • @MorrisJohn-vo2vn
      @MorrisJohn-vo2vn Před 23 dny +1

      ​@@colinmorris3526 Effectively, one species replaced the other. Europeans as an example are like 1% or less Neanderthal on average. That's not Homo Sapien - Neanderthal hybrid, that's Homo Sapien.

  • @PrisPrivate
    @PrisPrivate Před 23 dny +7

    First!! (Maybe, I could be wrong)

  • @duncanangelotizon9188
    @duncanangelotizon9188 Před 19 dny

    For a long time the consensus was that humans anatomically similar to us first emerged 200,000 years ago, it’s amazing how this video already has updated information stating that it was as farther back as 300,000 years ago.
    I also read that from a book called “The science of being human.” It’s fascinating how science
    is a continual quest for knowledge.

  • @Empyrean55
    @Empyrean55 Před 23 dny

    Still super cool that I can go visit the cradle of human kind in South Africa, its really the most stunning of places to visit!

  • @ryanreedgibson
    @ryanreedgibson Před 23 dny +4

    So, who's going to call the Cradle of Humankind and tell them they have to change their name and print new maps?

    • @catfishwithwhiskers
      @catfishwithwhiskers Před 23 dny

      Nah you call them and say congratulations, because apparently they're no longer single.

  • @user-gr1th4tm7k
    @user-gr1th4tm7k Před 9 dny +4

    I'm still struggling to explain to some of my religious relatives that we did not evolve from chimpanzees.

    • @Quetzalcoatlus-zb4nt
      @Quetzalcoatlus-zb4nt Před 9 dny

      They are so ignorant omg

    • @davidschaftenaar6530
      @davidschaftenaar6530 Před 7 dny

      What usually works is to frame it in terms of family relationships: We're not the descendants of chimps, just like your religious relatives aren't the descendants of their second cousins.

    • @hadiisaboss5307
      @hadiisaboss5307 Před 2 dny +1

      Here's a simple way to explain it. Think of humans and chimpanzees are cousins, because we're cousins we have a relative in common. But that doesn't mean we are our cousin nor are we our ancestor. We are humans who descended from the same ancestor as chimpanzees did we just took a different path in life.

  • @multiyapples
    @multiyapples Před 18 dny +1

    This is pretty cool to discover.

  • @anmlkvp
    @anmlkvp Před 21 dnem

    Excellent insight here 🙏🏿✍🏿💡