Datto's First Impressions on the Destiny 2 Forsaken Expansion
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"shotguns seem *a little* rampant right now"
if only he knew
b mo8665 if only you knew
Keenalarm _ felwinters astral mindbenders Antaeus, they all give me nightmares
@@oddie-ud4eu at least they have ammo economy
If only he knew
@@dafulegend5905 Lord Of Wolves 😞
Are YOU prepared to get ANOTHER Edge Transit Grenade Launcher? I know I'm not.
LOL I have gotten 7 in the last two days
Colin Boxall
Yeah what the hell is up with that I've had loads.
And prodigal masks, but they're sexy as hell so I've no problem with it.
I got so many of those this week.
That is all my power engrams. . . I am stuck at 513 because nothing else will drop
Colin Boxall only item I’ve gotten since launch... and I’m 512
I like that Bungie hired a couple of people to say 9 words
the voice actors where already hired.the female voice actor for our guardian was Amanda holiday aswell. the male was devrim aswell
Gideon Emery didn't voice the playable character. Each race has a different VA.
Awoken and Human are the same voice actor, at the very least. Haven't gotten to hear the exo yet.
The male exo sounds like banshee-44
Grant - Saturn They really invest a hefty amount of money into trolling their customers. When the first videos emerged and praised Bungie for having our Guardian speak again, I told people that he wouldn't say much after that, because Bungie wants to troll us and they did.
Imagine Datto saying he loves gambit in 2019 😂
*2020
@@RumblyChair4407 2021
I'm here in 2020 and after his title grind it seems pretty impossible
2500
Forever
The ending fight was right out of left field even as a lore junkie.
John Ballard last fight is perfectly explained by the lore
@@malum19 after you already kill him. Nothing prior to the fight indicated the existence of riven (not counting the leaks)
John Ballard yeah, I was expecting to fight a taken Mara Sov for the boss and then... tentacles?
Some of the Queen's lines did hint to her actually being the Voice of Riven, like her calling uldren "oh brother mine". I swear she said something else ahamkara-ish but I've forgotten it.
There was almost no prior lore that mentions Riven. With context, it makes sense. It was a shape shifting Ahamkara that worked with Mara Sov to build her throne realm. It was evantually taken by what I can assume to be Savathun.
"They will come".... (Has 563 master cores).... It's been a struggle for me to have 10.
He probobly has over 1k hours dumped into this game already. Pretty sure he plays at least 6 hours a day
Been playing for roughly 70 hours and havent seen a single masterwork core drop in forsaken.
yeah i love that too , i like how he glanced over how everyone prior to the DLC cant even get cores anymore if they wanted to infuse. also the fact that if you dont have many Y1 exotics to begin with ( new player, pc / ps4 player) your chances of getting a new forsaken exotic are like 1 in 4 with an abysmal drop rate. almost 30 hours since dlc launched and im still exoticless
Thank god for the Spider, but seriously seen only one masterwork core weapon drop from the Titan vendor and seen no exotics. Think I opened of like around 20 powerful engrams, and seen no exotics.
Hah, my reaction as well. It's almost like Bungie doesn't want people to enjoy the grind to max light. And while Datto may be right about more masterwork cores coming in the future (keyword, might) it doesn't mean anything to me right now.
Datto: At the rate that people are going at now it's safe to say that we'll be overpowered for the raid
Bungie: *Are you sure about that?*
I'm all for more taxing infusion upgrades, but requiring masterwork cores for a non masterwork item makes absolutely no sense.
Umbreonic I think the reasoning is that now, everything is actually masterworked somwhere from level 1-10. It might be low, but it still is.
ManofVGames12 I think you’re right but still they should probably lower the amount or remove it entirely
I agree Meliodas.
Agreed..
Umbreonic Same. I like that the cost is high, but masterwork cores are still very rare for more players. I dismantled nearly all my year 1 masterwork weapons and armor (mostly from the raid) so I have a lot of cores, but I'm afraid to use them because they go so quickly. I'll probably wait until I start getting raid gear and see what's really worth keeping.
My first impression was I NEED a bow,
Then I saw mr fruits ace of spades video than my second impression was I NEED ace of spades.
Hahahaha! Same here!
Then I saw the Wish Ender kill a Guardian with one shot.
My next impression was I NEED a Wish Ender.
My frist impresion was I NEED Wish Ender
my second is I NEED ace of spades
SantasFatRat I was sitting at the 5 gambit kills part on Thursday and said the same thing. Finished it in 3 hours, haven't unequipped Ace of Spades since.
Amaurys Fernandez I just finished the story and I'm not exited for THE GRIND
But it's worth it hey.
Seriously, who else screamed when they ended up in the Fallen area from the OG Prison of Elders in Warden of Nothing ?
Guilty as charged
I did the strike tonight and whole time I was freaking out lol 😂 good stuff bungie
I thought it was boring reused content
@@Zeddy_1 Ok, Mr "Never satisfied and doesn't care about Nostalgia Levels"
@@LittleBigPlanetian I love this dlc, I'm more than satisfied, but I see why you like it, but before forsaken I used to hop on d1 almost every day and sometimes did POE which probably removed the nostalgia effect from it
The fanatic was a really quick boss it’s like you chase him all over the tangled shore and he seems like just some small side boss when you actually fight him
Lucky2535 he will be coming back in his own strike im pretty sure, like he just comes back to life and you’ll kill him again
@Ascenndant You made my day
Tristin Allison i think the playstation exclusive strike involves him, not sure though
@@BelgianBagel Is Broodhold the PS Strike? That doesn't have him, he's in the other strike that's not the PoE strike
Well he’s way more fleshed out in his strike where he pulls a 180 and does a SeLf ReZ
This DLC was amazing for me. One because I didn’t grind, I ran through all the lvls under the light recommendation making the lvls more difficult and epic at the same time.
The voice of Riven caught me by surprise. Toland,Mara everything caught me by surprise
*being invaded multiple times wouldn't matter as long as you have 4 hunters with blade barrage*
XDDDD
What is this game dark souls?
as long as you have players who know how to dmg Primeval and know that they are being invaded so look for the person you will be fine.
swiss
Plus, who damage the boss right away?
Kill those Major Yellow Health that gives you the Primeval Buff to melt the Primeval instantly
The second we get 6-10, a single Blade Barrage insta-kill
Being invaded doesn't matter if you don't touch your boss still the buff goes up to at least x3 so what you do is wait until your invader is gone and then you damage the fuck outta your boss. A Titan with melting point is so handy.
3:32 Smooth
Oof
Coming back to this a couple years later, I never noticed how clean that transition at 2:08 was.
Bro that,went hard
I recently got the black talon out of the crucible, I freaked out cause i was grinding and hoping got at least ONE exotic. I like that they're rare again
Kyle Fairns that was the problem to begin with, exotics were too easy to get. I like the fact that they’re more rare to acquire, makes the game worth playing
@@anthonymaderas5365 there is a large difference between 'Give after x time + low drop rate' and current. We're not asking for a spam of them, but they are seemingly nonexistent rn (especially with no 3oC, or Fated being useless)
I got 2 exotics and they were the knucklehead radar and Vigilance Wing..... Which I alr got.....Fk me
@@anthonymaderas5365 yes but after 24 hours of gameplay you should have atleast one except some people like me have jack s***
People are complaining but it was like this in d1, it feels special again getting an exotic and that's what I've been wanting since the game came out
I hate the infusion cost
It's not supposed to be easy. Its a grind
Correct opinion guy exactly
Lakersoul I’m guessing you like warframe
Correct opinion guy You are correct it isn't suppose to be easy but the masterwork cores (For at least me) are the issue the rest of the cost like you I think is fine.
ChosenTenshi I agree with you you have to hope to get a masterwork out of legendaries. They should implement it as a Xur? thing were he sells them and you buy
14:10 a couple of weeks before forsaken, me and 4 other randoms cleared all 7 levels of EP. no one was in a party together and we communicated through emotes and shooting things lol. it can happen. its just very rare.
Why the hell am I watching this in 2021? What could I possibly get out of this video?
idk but it’s fun
Forsaken is soo good... Wasn’t expecting to play for six hours straight getting to the Dreaming City. By the time I got to do 3 cycles of Blind Well my hands started getting tired from clutching my mouse so hard. And I’m so excited to see what the Dreaming City has in store, considering the other looter shooters don’t have anywhere close to a decent patrol space without the experience Bungie has gained over the past 4 years. Without a doubt, D2 Y2 is going to be the best year Destiny has seen.
Hows d2 on pc thinking about switching to the pc version
Remember when people said that 3 other times...
@@wolterprupper5102 not oc but personally I love it. 21:9 1440p at 100fps is great and watching console gameplay after playing on PC now feels weird because of the FOV
Im getting the taken king vibes and i love it
for how good it is now... i still cant get over the fact at how bad it was a year ago. we shouldve had this type of content from the start and like datto said... d2 year 1 was definitely a regression.
If I had one critism, it is that bungie needs to get their challenge - reward figured out.
The Aussie Ninja Definitely true
mine would be linear fusion rifles in gambit. i constant get 1 shot across the map as soon as the invader arrives. as they have no dropoff 1 shot body shot and no range limit.
The linear fusion rifle problem is only really for sleeper simulant because I'm pretty sure all other linear fusions have to get a headshot to 1 shot kill.
@@hurricanex3142 Queenbreaker's Bow is probably even more busted than Sleeper there. It's just really damn good
Skull Anyone who uses sleeper in gambit is so trash. Why use a one shot weapon to the body, it requires no type of skill at all.
I wish doing high level stuff like the dreaming city and heroic strikes gave some incentive to do them. I love the look and feel of the dreaming city, but I feel like there isn't a whole lot of reason to do anything there other than farming for gear. I've got really bad luck with the random rolls, and a lot of my play this week was doing activities over and over hoping to get a specific weapon with better perks and not really getting any luck. The options to get quicker loot feels really slow. I got my first exotic engram drop today, and it was the prospector, and I really wasn't happy about that.
I had an emotional response with all the ads on this video. Keep up the good work.
Mind bender was my favorite! Also there’s a secret chest on that adventure, so you should make a video!
DATTO I played that strike with you, I was security gourd, I gotta go tell all my friends. luv u
Love it
1 milly on ma dik
child
Guys dont feed the troll
1 milly on ma dik So then, my only question is why you’re watching a video on a “dead game”? Don’t you have other games you personally enjoy to invest your free time in?
1 milly on ma dik warframe? More like gayframe
“Shotguns are a little rampant right now I hope they tune it down” yeah years after and shotgun ape are still problematic
i too am a big fan of our guardian having a voice. and mmo characters actually speaking.
I loved when we went to the skolas arena in warden of nothing. A massive nostalgia trips. Especially when the mines came up.
My only issue is the new infusing system
Same. It's only for people that play A LOT. Otherwise it's a pain.
@@ninethreefivesix i play a lot and still having issues lol
Feels
I like it personally
@@deathsorphan5513 i would like it if i could afford it lol
I am an active veteran player, i play at LEAST like 6hrs of D2 basicly everyday, even more normally (well now i have taken a little break bc of surgery) and the infusion cost is WAYYY too much for me, i srsly cannot afford it, at all. Like either give us a steady way of getting all of the stuff needed, or lower the price by a little
then you obviously don't play 6hrs a day, or you don't spend that time doing the right things
Zander E yea, sry. I meant i play more like 8 to 10 hours a day, but still cant afford infusion, mats and shit, i can get, just like back in good ol d1, but MW cores? Ive never had more than 12 in my inventory.
Giffy I'm with Zander on this one. I just got back into the game in June, play at MOST 2 hours a night after putting the kids to sleep, and a few hours on the weekends and I had 153 cores going into Forsaken. Granted it's nothing compared to Datto, but if you dismantle your year 1 weapons and gear that you don't plan to upgrade, you should have a lot. Do the old raid because half the drops came master worked for me and I just kept dismantling them.
@@GiffyHD you masterwork too many things then lmao,
The Gambit thing has been my experience too. Usually when you're winning you end up losing.
15:50 You are correct! My friends and I actually use that as our strategy most of the time. If one of us dies with 15 motes, no worries we'll come back. We've even faced a team that also took their time collecting motes and banked only on 15. That spam invasion needs to be limited
I think they could make strikes useful by making the strike specific gear drop high level
Energy Vanquish - I was getting over 500 gear from strikes.
Joe Joe yeah that’s the soft cap.
If the fanatic could ressurect dead fallen into scorn,then why couldn't he ressurect the dead barons🤔
Because they're already Scorn
because video game
Tom Fischer but he can still ressurect dead things
Video Game Addict pretty sure he is immortal practically because he is basically a zombie sun singer. But his motives will die and he’ll realize guardians are too powerful and he’ll probably going off doing his own thing.
Actually, he could. He was trying to, it was his actual plan to do exactly that. But then we stopped him in the strike, by killing him.
One thing I really appreciate that isn't mentioned much is this
All previous Bright Engram items that would normally no longer be available (past seasons) are now all obtainable from strikes and various other sources (The armor is the only exception)
I’m loving how massive the dreaming city is. My clan has had squads of people dedicated solely to mapping the city for hours a day right now and it’s crazy how much there is secret wise
I'm worried about the power progression. Supposedly the second soft cap is at 520 and some Powerful Rewards start dropping at only +1 power. You could be 520, go do your Flashpoint, and be rewarded with a 521 item. It may end up being much worse than Warmind's progression. Having most of the avenues to increase your power become increasingly worthless is concerning to me.
We have activities outside of Raids that require high power level now. Enemies during Heroic Public Events are already at 530 in the starting area of the Dreaming City. If the people start feeling like they're making almost zero progress, then they're more likely to just quit and do something else. Forsaken brought a lot of people back, but I'm worried we may lose a lot of people if the above scenario happens.
On a completely different note, Lake of Shadows used to be much worse before Blackout got toned down. Those shadow wall blasts counted as melee attacks and would one-shot you.
Dire Miralis once I got to the dreaming city and ran into the light wall at 500 I was completely done. I imagine this will be the same for casuals. Well done bungo
that's not true, I've been getting 525+ items even before I was 520
I think power progression is slightly broken at the moment. I ran all of my challenges across all three characters and got stuck at 515 power. Tons of duplicate/nonhelpful engram rewards. Meanwhile other streamers I was watching while I grinded who did the exact same things I did are pushing 530. It all just feels like luck at the moment, which sort of blows. That being said, hoping for better luck next week.
As an aside, if I get another Edge Transit grenade launcher from a powerful engram next week, I am going to lose it. I have like 15.
Bungie confirmed this is a glitch. However, I agree with your statement. Then again, the grind of Warframe is 10x more than Forsaken yet people play that constantly. But people have been loyal to that game longer than Destiny. I'm so glad they are catering to vets again who pour their heart and soul into this game to grind and light level, but for the casuals, they may find it too much effort for too little a reward and give up.
Tali Maximoff Glad to hear that. I'm mostly just concerned with the grind to get normal mode raid ready as some friends and I are trying to get as close to 560 as we can so we can all experience the raid for the first time together. If some of us are raid-ready at launch while others have to wait 2 more resets because of duplicate drops, it'll be disappointing.
No joke one of my friends got trinity ghoul and 2 tailed fox within one hour doing strikes. Unbelievable
And ive not gotten one exotic and ive been playing since launch xD
Actually , during solstice of heroes , I got the pc version of D2 and ran into a group of complete randoms doing escalation protocol . I could tlel because noone was in a fireteam , and we DID complete it . It's kinda nice to see that kind of thing , complete strangers managing to work together without even talking .
Definitely agree about exotics. I got the Queenbreaker from completing today's daily Heroic. It was the first time since year 1 of Destiny 1 that I was excited about a drop.
I honestly feel like they should scrap the whole powerful gear and milestone thing and just have different activities drop different level rewards. It would take a lot of effort to change and re work it but it would make the entire game a whole lot more fun and would make things like the blind well and heroic strikes actually mean something
Lord Farious Holy shit, great idea.
if only bungie would have that idea ;-;
Gotta be honest, after the massive two steps back that was "destiny 2 and both DLC's" i'm not going to play destiny every again even after 5 years, but I still watch Datto's video's...without ad-blocker
Cbass Yokum then why do you watch videos about a game you don’t play?
TO SUPPORT MY BOIIIIII!!!
Thank you from refraining from the use of extremes when defining your expierience. Its refreshing to see/hear a review that isnt either "love" or "hate". I can really appreciate feedback on something that doesn't sound as if its completely black or white. Good review, glad I watched it!
It's so nice to hear and be able to give positive feedback that doesn't feel hesitant or unenthusiastic finally. Looking forward to the dreaming city deep dive.
"You should have an emotional response to getting an Exotic."
Well, the only one I've had every time I've gotten an Exotic to drop so far (three in total, and for reference I'm pretty much done with my third character going through the Powerful Engrams). And out of those three, two were Year 1 dupes and the other was the Heart of Inmost Light, which is garbage. Plus, Xur hasn't sold anything in months (or dropped from the engram that's been bugged for months and never fixed). So the only emotional response Bungie has gotten from me when it comes to Exotics is anger and frustration.
Should Exotics be showered down onto us? I guess not, but I also don't think they should be this fucking rare and dupes be this goddamn common. Obviously the best solution would be a middle-ground, but if we had to pick one, I'd rather be showered in Exotics.
The Crucible has been ruined for the tenure of Destiny 2. Bungie didn't fix team-shooting with the weapon changes, and in fact made it worse. Not to mention doing things like bringing back shotguns, one-hit Shoulder Charge, etc. makes it even more unbearable to play. Hell, I got so sick and tired of it that I ended of just going AFK in Rumble for my matches to get the Powerful Engram.
Gambit is a cool mode that can be fun, but it requires a full team to not eventually rip your hair out. Borderline every time I've played it, I've been the sole person doing anything, maybe having one other person contributing. Or we'll summon the Prime Evil and the opposing team will only have like thirty motes, but will still win the round because they get eight invasions in a row and my teammates don't do shit. I get that it's new, but it needs some major tweaking to the invasions and matchmaking for it to be viable to play more than just to get whatever I wanted and get the fuck out.
Also, I don't know if it's just me buggin' or something, but when I've played Strikes and Gambit, I've randomly been getting absolutely slaughtered for no reason. Again, I could just be missing something (and no, it's not Power Level related), but it's pretty obnoxious.
Outside of those things, along with the cost of infusion, not being to re-roll Masterworks, and some other I guess more minor things, I like Forsaken. Of course, we'll have to wait until the Raid is out and then like another week after that to get some real final verdicts, but I'm having fun again, for the most part. The only other thing I think Bungie didn't capitalize on (and I don't think they ever will, but they desperately need to) is letting people equip three pieces of Exotic armor, giving people more control over character-building and fixing the issue with some Exotics being way too good to not use, forcing the rest to be unusable by default.
heart of inmost light was good on launch i thought
I'm 516 right now, mainly because I would rather die than spend hundreds of tokens getting the full sets of crucible and vanguard armor to get just a couple quests done, but Forsaken was/is good. I came into the Destiny series when Dark Below was released, so I may have slight bias, but, I do think Taken King was better. It just had a better, less cluttered, feel to it. I am extremely excited for the raid tho, and the dreaming city is amazing :P
Just play some Strikes and PvP, you have a good chance at getting pieces. If you have tokens stockpiled getting the rest of the set isn't all that bad.
Yea nah I have over a thousand of both vanguard and crucible tokens, but I spent 100 of each and didn't get a single armor piece, which is making me not want to get the gear...
What else are you going to use them for? I mean they are only there for 1 thing and that is cashing in for loot at the vendor.
yea I understand, It's just gonna be rough if they end up being super useful later on and I remember I spent a thousand earlier.
Great video man, and I fully agree with your observation on Gambit, it did feel like if you are ahead it becomes more of a detriment to your team! A whole army of taken blockers around the prime evil and the invasions just don’t stop. I thought Bungie was balancing this by the “prime evil compromised” debuff but it just doesn’t feel enough! Maybe have a cap on blockers, either two large, three medium or five small or some combination of that. I would totally see this as a valid strategy where teams delay their mote banking until after the opposing team summons their boss then overwhelm them with blockers and invasions. The risk of loosing motes to invaders can be minimized if they work as a coordinated team, it’s still 4vs1
there's an ascendant chest in all 3 lost sectors and another like 6 around the map, i got the achievement for getting all of them, there's an ascendant challenge in each lost sector as well, there's also a lot of chest challenges either have to do with slamming arc charges, awoken charges or killing things. Ive gotten around 100-150 dark fragments from one character doing public events, all ascendant chests/chest challenges and also got a few new dreaming city weapons from the cats and chests, along with the full set of dreaming city armor, and also theres alot of lore pieces in the city and even in the ascendent challenges
I fell off my chair when i heard my character talk.
Im so happy Destiny 2 is fun again...... But I need to control my ADHD because I keep running around killing crap I dont need to kill and 30 minutes later I accomplish nothing when Im suppose to be doing the story XD haha I wanna get Ace of Spades, legit the only reason Im doing the campaign tbh
Thats the thing though, idk what it is or what they put in our coffee, but it's so refreshing and enjoyable now for some reason just walking around shooting everything you see.
Oh buddy, good luck with the Ace of Spades. It’s a chore, the first bit at least. Or you get lucky and it isn’t lol
Pfft screw the ace of spades get the chaperone its beast
Punisher 2000 ace of spades is far better. But I’ll let u have your opinion. I have both.
@@mee2714 the chaperon has this underdog feel to it! Like “oh wow, you killed me with that one weapon that like 80% of your team is using and is known to be top tier, but look at this beast from a generaly bad weapon class that whoops your ass from a mile away you pleb.“
I soloed the blood cleaver at 510 light, oh boy was that fun lol, I’ve been missing this kinda stuff, great vide!
Me and my friend love blade barrage. He is a warlock main and im a hunter main. Well of radiance and blade barrage are an insane combo and we shred through the barens really fast
9 lines BTW: “You won’t have to. Uldren Sov is mine.
Deal.
Datto: "go get some food. Go get a drink cause were gonna be here awhile"
Me: pauses the video, gets up and makes a sandwich and gets a glass of coke.
I agree on your point about Gambit although I think it’s intended to give the losing team a fighting chance. One change I though of to counteract it a bit was to make killing an envoy send a blocker to the other side. It isn’t a massive change but it would slow down the losing side a bit and would reward killing envoys a bit more.
4:30 best Datto quote OF ALL TIME
I’m confused cause everyone’s saying Lake Of Shadows is PS4 exclusive strike but I played it earlier today and I’m on Xbox? Someone explain please?
Sir_Mystic It used to be one. It isn't anymore.
it was ps4 exclusive in year one, now it is available to everyone
They can have it back it’s a throwaway strike anyway
Lol
Sir_Mystic it used to be but is now accessible to all players
They need to stop this power wall bs. In my opinion power should not be a checklist. You play more or complete harder and harder tasks then you gain my power for it. We still have alot more to do but it feels artificial in areas.
This completely. The power progression in Destiny 2 has always been bullshit and that fact has become even more apparent now that Forsaken has introduced so many more new interesting activities. I spent roughly 27 hours grinding all three characters in the most efficient way possible currently, got screwed on two of them, and my highest power character is 515. Meanwhile, my friend played roughly 8 hours on one character only before going to a wedding this weekend and got to 525 power. After four years of it, I'm getting really tired of progressing on RNG alone.
What would be much better is if relevant activities had a small chance of dropping powerful loot that you could raise by playing the game better. Using strikes as an example, you could get a buff to the drop rate for every 10,000 points you put on the Strike scoring system and using a challenge card with enough handicap could guarantee the next powerful reward you get will be in a slot that progresses you. Just two small examples, but there's a bunch of ideas Bungie could add to make progression a reflection of your progress with the game rather than your luck gambling with RNG.
“Shotguns running rampant and wouldn’t mind that being toned down” ends video of shotgun kill. Love your videos datto keep up the good work.
Completely agree on the Gambit lead issue. I've seen the same thing. Spot in review, keep up the great work.
Taken king all over again except without Cayde 6
Hex Hawk you couldn’t be more wrong 🤣
Better than taken king
SirCreepsAlott but it did absouletley ruin the infusion system
David Islas you can buy them now.
SirCreepsAlott you should subscribe to Dark Side Royalty (Joker). He shares a lot of the same opinions, but isn’t afraid ti give credit where credit is due.
mw core requirement really kind of poops on players who can't afford the dlc :(
I just left destiny a few weeks ago and am glad to see your enjoying the new content but I can’t keep giving my life to a game and company that continue to be disappointing hope it turns out awesome for all you who keep at it
Mad Bomber was my favorite. He had a good personality, the mines were nostalgic, and the encounter was just a lot of fun.
If you like nostalgia, try out the strike "Warden of Nothing."
Let me explain why I dislike the current abysmal drops of exotics. Destiny loot is not imo exciting enough for me to care about legendaries. The perks aren’t crazy fun like in borderlands. Exotics look neat and feel neat. If I play for twenty five hours and get boots. I’m not going to be happy. If I play for another twenty hours and get a repeat from year one I’m not going to be having fun. Forsaken was amazing. I don’t think exotics should rain from the heavens. But some kind of system where the game tries to give you exotics based on time played would be appreciated. For every two or three hours the drop chance goes up by 1 % I don’t know if that’s accurate but it would be a good place to start.
that stupid summit bungie had with streamers and youtubers..is the reason why exotics are stupid rare...this expansion is for the hardcore only..screw everyone else...
Chris Forthenberry I mean I would argue I am hardcore. I just want my time to be rewarded and right now with 30 hours in and only at 508 with no new exotics I’m not really feeling like that.
I got two exotics within 2 days of casually grinding. It's all rng based. Just like it was in the first game. In the first game, it took me 2 years to get Ballerhorn. Again, all rng based. It's the way it should be.
Tali Maximoff I’m not trying to disregard your opinion. But did you read my op? I’m fine with it being rng but if I play for a long time and get nothing and my brother gets on and plays for five minutes and gets an exotic I’m going to be pissed. Having a system where you have a higher chance the longer you go without receiving an exotic isn’t revolutionary. A lot of looters do the same. It doesn’t have to be 1% it could be lower. But my time isn’t being rewarded my luck is.
Wtf Datto . Masterwork cores are hard to come by , even with spider . That's how it becomes a hobby. You have to go see spider and decide when 80 legendaries are worth it . Exotics are not present . I been playing all week, can't get a handgun kill because everyone is going for it as well
i know its not much, but each day spider resets the cost of his materials. so itll be low the next day
Imma keep it real with you chief, if you can’t get one hand cannon invader kill for the Ace after “playing all week”, you just succ. I got this quest done in 4 hours
MrAlbie1970 I got my kills in 1 game. Lmao
INfinityfreakGames I got it done in 3 matches lol
I only had a struggle getting the hand cannon kills in Gambit, but by crucible time i happened to get an Outlaw/Kill Clip Better Devils (i call it best Devils) so it was a breeze. Like 3 games or so
For the cat statues, you need an offering. I remember getting an offering for it from a drop of some kind, but in any case I got a raid sniper rifle. Which is basically predyths all over again which is fine by me.
I ran into a random group on EP and completed every wave. I cried.
How do you feel that last word isnt coming back
Mineblowerz We don’t know need every D1 exotic back
TheG.O.A.T Of the nation but we need last word
FreeBandzMilt No we don’t let destiny 2 build itself some new memorable guns
Uldren even mocked us saying we get the last word
Kinda hard for D2 to have ANY memorable guns when most of them have been subpar compared to the shit we got in D1. To the point that a lot of D2 was RULED by fucking MIDA, a gun FROM D1.
...so grind for good masterwork on top of grind for "god roll" (something that seems like a lazy-man's static rolls imo)...any waning interest I might have had probably flew out the window...I literally feel like crying in frustration right now...
The gameplay itself sounds exciting...although if that was the gameplay I wanted, I'd probably just go back to D1. Personally I feel like Forsaken is the regression and that all of D2's year 1 was a lame attempt at innovating before just blatently giving up. I'm welcome to a good reason as to the contrary, although you might have to fight a bit of my personal grief first.
As for the story...I think it sounds pretty awesome, and in any other game I might have jumped on it rather quickly...I wish to see it for myself and experience, yet again however I would rather not come back to destiny as it currently is.
Quickly I want to explain my opinion on static rolls v random rolls for context. Everybody wants to have the same specific type of roll eventually and typically not having that roll gets your butt handed back to you on a silver platter. This tending to be the trend, then how would that be different from giving everyone the god rolls on the first drop? I suspect that people's reason is that people don't get it right away and it extends the game's lifecycle (based solely on having heard that argument before.) So basically I'm getting from that statement is thus; I want pointless fluff to pad out an otherwise bland and boring game...mind you I loved the game because of every reason except random rolls...to which my response is usually, so why not do random rolls on drastically altering mods or attachments to the guns? Make them to the point where a gun becomes something new with a different set up rather than just lousy or even bad...suffice to say I think that there are better solutions to these problems rather than randomly rolling the weapons and gambling your time away. I DON'T MIND GRINDING...as long as I still hold MOST of the control over my playstyle and or character build.
Please, a large part of me wants to be convinced otherwise against my better judgement... (as attested to by my posting this comment.)
Thank you for posting your opinion Datto, it was very helpful in so many ways!
If you havnt played the Expansion, it's very hard to take your opinion into consideration...
Eten Grimm of course everyone wants the “god roll” weapon. But what people fail to realize is that even a “subpar” roll can still be good. It depends on play style and perks. Everyone always wants the “damage and speed” perks (Kill clip/Rampage/Outlaw) simply because they’re seen as the best. (They are of course but regardless.) There are perks and weapons that with certain rolls make them super unique playstyle wise. For example, in grave robber is a vastly under rated perk for PvE IMO, but everyone dislikes it because it doesn’t suit their style. You could pop off with a bubble tree sentinel running Doom Fangs and a grave robber weapon, constantly killing and meleeing, which allows for some nice unique gameplay. That’s why random rolls are important, so you can experience unique interactions.
@@dylangross3702
Played since D1 beta and played every expansion until forsaken. Possibly thousands of hours no less. I get your point but I am not trying to post it as a fact, just an opinion on prior experience. Please feel free to just treat as a nice discussion.
@@Beeks20
Very true...and yet, wouldn't that have been better with randomly rolled mods or attachments? Then I can choose how I want a gun to run almost entirely and not have to endlessly run to make it exactly the way I want...add into that situation the possibility of removing and min-maxing by giving really cool mods that do some good at a cost styles. For example say that I got one that increases my reload speed, but it cuts my magazine or my recoil by a big amount or something. Unfortunately I'm not the best at coming up with the specifics, but I hope you get the idea. I don't mind your specific perspective, I agree with you alot, but I still feel like they've taken the lazy route and that makes me lose hope in Destiny as a franchise growing immensely. If that makes sense.
Let's put it this way, I never really got god rolls in D1 because I didn't feel like grinding for marginally better weapons that I had little to no control over...and I think that's more what is my problem then anything else. Gambling can be fun...as long as I can still retain some actual level of interaction than pulling the handle again. Mind you I don't think the strike or activity is the control, rather just the cost to start gambling...
Thank you for a good point and I'm glad that I'm the only one who didn't use the "god rolls" as well.
I'm a big fan of the idea if dropping the random rolls only thing. Random rolls would be fine if we could then customize their perks or such afterward, which could also be made into a GOOD grind. But when you're chasing a specific roll on purely randomized roll drops on a specific chance drop, i.e. god roll Eyasluna from D1, you are then looking at a 0.000006% drop rate (estimated). Then add in that masterworks aren't re-rollable and you may have to start over if you want it to be perfect.
I think this building and customizing your gun idea sounds infinitely better than pure random roll laziness.
I really like that they leave it ambiguous as to who shot Uldren in the end.
I appreciate the use of "No-no Zone" in this video
Four burst pulse rifles are the new meta, mark my words.
Ultima go figure is a beast in pvp!
Yeah I got a go figure with outlaw headseeker and high caliber rounds it’s a monster in pvp
i have a go figure with outlaw and kill clip with light mag. it's a fucking monster jesus christ
This expansion honestly amazing,and in my opinion it blows TTK out of the water
SirCreepsAlott I haven't played it yet but it's looks better than d1 year 1 is overrated imo coming from a dark below player
It’s really disappointing that so many people are satisfied with mediocrity. Can’t wait for when every major game is just mindless trash, like D2.
So... tell me, what new it brings to the game?
SirCreepsAlott fuck outta here you're objectively wrong
@SirCreepsAlott stop bitching about your problems you have with it in everyones comment, theres tons of people who like this way more than the people who dont, this expansion is the best yet, your opinion is invalid.
I’m so glad that Exotics are so rare again. I haven’t heard myself yelp over getting an exotic, in this case Geomag Stabilisers, or some of my friends getting Trinity Ghouls since the D1 days. It’s great!
Same I agree with the emotional response thing when I got my first forsaken exotic I was actually surprised and hyped so yeah I agree it’s a good thing
Does anyone else think it's pretty wild that it took bungie a year to deliver a game that felt like a finished product? Forsaken is what destiny 2 should have been from jump street, but bungie wanted your money for the expansions.
King Samon my point exactly
In the original destiny before rebooted this was all in the story
@@Sniperxx-ee6hx That wouldn't surprise me. Are you talking about before they fired the original story creator for D1?
King Samon idk if he got fired or left but yeah
But who cares. That literetly doesnt matter at all. Should we have had a better game at launch, maybe. But we're here now, Forsaken now exists, which is fantastic. If you like it great if not oh well. But it's here. Who gives a shit about the politics of it, stop dwelling on the shoulds and should nots
The masterwork core crap is stupid. Not everyone can make a Destiny CZcams channel and make a living by sitting at home, Datto.
I know right! Every youtuber so far has been like "I like it it. It makes you think." Well no shit, you have like 6+ hours a day playing.
Shut up you casual shitheads. Casuals dont deserve opinions.
Yoop Noop I don’t even think it’s casuals talking about this, it’s quite a lot of people, myself included (I’m not a casual), aka the average player that has a life outside of video games, and priorities like school and/or work that prevents them from no-lifing Destiny for 50+ hours straight. It actually is a bad idea that slows power progression down way too much, simply because masterwork cores are way too rare right now to be used for infusion which is something everyone does a lot. If they made them more common then it wouldn’t be that big of a deal. That or remove it, because the rest of the infusion cost is fine
The Gaming Spartan
Even normal Leviathan drops tons if masterwork cores.
The Gaming Spartan personally I feel the masterwork core requirement is good. You do have the option to buy them, you can “grind” them out of legendary weapons as well trough the new masterwork system, and you can also play year 1 activities to get year 1 masterworks to dismantle. I think it’s just fine.
I'm gonna attribute the lore to the story as well, and I've also read some leaked lore entries for the raid that are due to come out in the next 3 weeks with the different loops in the city. The writing in Forsaken is by far the best writing that I've seen from bungie in the past 10 years that I've been playing their games. The characters really come alive and the plot developments and implications are truly insane this time around.
Take the Books of Sorrow and then multiply that by 15, then you have the lore in Forsaken.
Not like it takes much to make them seem alive when they're all so bland. Minus Cayde. And that's only because he was given the bulk of the funnies cause he was Nathan Fillion.
I FUCKING LOVE THE DREAMING CITY. THE DIFFICULTY, DESIGN, AND PETRA STORY. AMAZING.
I don’t see the reason of buying it when will all know the next destiny will be the exact same situation. Shitty until they drop a $40 dlc. It’s just a cycle that will never change.
Amen. They knew it worked with D1. Launch crappy underwhelming beta of a vanilla. Two rubbish Season Pass DLCs. Microtransactions out the ying-yang. Player uproar. $40 fix to the game. Another $30-40 expansion or two. Reset. Repeat. Why get a consumer to buy for a quality base game once, when they will pay multiple times over for trash with the hopes of it eventually getting good.
Until we can tell the future, which is never, we don't know. Plus, giving the community what they wanted is what ruined D2, not entirely what Bungie did.
I see nothing but opinion
☹️ Me want to know quality of dlc, but me don't want spoilers
It’s like taken king if you played it fun overall gambit is a blast crucible is ok right now but shotguns are being overused like Datto said also strikes are irrelevant. The dreaming city is a fun place to explore and there are a lot of new secrets. This expansion is more tuned to the grinders and try hards rather than causal players which I like.
Jacob Lua
That was a great concise summary.
This expansion is well worth the money in my opinion, but everyone likes things differently
@@jacoblua284 tank you, I like that too, I experienced the shotguns and gambit is super fun and the supers seem really good (except the new hammer that I think melee should be 1 hit like sentinel). But I'm a hunter main so I won't experience it much.
Why are you watching a very spoiler heavy video...hmmm
@@TheArtificialGaming I stopped after I saw the message in the beginning
Thanks for telling me about the Zur bug, I thought it was just gone
It happens every time a new expansion comes out. It's done on purpose.
It will be interesting to see what Bungie does to keep the grind going after the raid launches. So far I too have been having a bunch of fun. Glad to see the community is having fun as well.
Only bad part is that the final boss is just a reskinned purple ball boi
Not its final form though; the impersonator said, "O Brother mine"
Sound like what the Ahamkara Armor pieces have, doesn't it?
SirCreepsAlott whiny little baby 🍼
-Story was not mediocre, as datto said even I felt some emotional guilt towards Uldren
-Lazy? Everything so far looks FANTASTIC. The spaces are awesome and the dreaming city is beautiful what game are you playing?
-What the hell do you mean patrols are the same.
-Umm gambit is pretty amazing, Dreaming city is nice, new strike is awesome best strike ever. Sure nothing is truly innovative but many things refined and perfected
-40$ is not that much especially when Destiny is a game that's on going and if you're someone like me who invest more time in the game than playing others.
SirCreepsAlott I want this game to improve as well but I think you're being too harsh. The level design is NOT lazy in the slightest especially with the fantastic strike that came with this expansion. Gambit is very innovative and I wouldn't ever call the patrol spaces linear. The story is meh like it's always been and yea maybe $40 is a bit much. But so far forsaken looks like the best expansion in destiny history and if it's not it's a close second to ttk.
SirCreepsAlott You comment boring shit all over destiny's fanbase. Learn to lighten up and maybe do something different. You're being a little too predictable now.
If I got the dlc for free I'd play it but I am not falling for the scam that is Destiny.
Exile boo hop nothing is free get over it
@@ontos8534 go listen to "battle music" nerd
A scam? Nothing about Destiny has been a scam, not even xp throttling can be really considered a real scam. Now, your opinion doesn't change definition, nor does your experience.
@@aortavin8650 Destiny nerds have Stockholm syndrome they're clueless
I think the people that believe disappointment equals a scam, are nothing but clueless. Aside from you personal experience and you're claims, Destiny fans barely have Stockholm Syndrome. It doesn't matter what you think. We enjoy the game, we play it. We don't feel captive by Bungie, and it isn't up to you to feel that way for use. Even assuming this is just stupid.
I want a weekly strike challenge that starts at a set power level but each time you complete it it adds another modifier. That way we can truly test ourselfs against an ever stronger "foe" and still make non nightfall strikes worth it by giving powerful engrams every now and again for completion milestones for the week.
In Gambit, being ahead isn’t bad at all. You get a primeval slayer stack the longer your primeval is alive so you can just save your power attacks until you have a x5(ish) stack and burn it down
Infusion is absolutely terrible, and didn't need to change like this. I was fine with being able to bring my favorite gear up with me. This isn't WoW, we're not completely remaking our builds every five minutes, and no one wants to. Secondly, I think everything is just a little too... cluttered at the moment. I'll be honest, I haven't played in a couple days because I completed the campaign, made it to the Dreaming City, and then I stepped into a mess of bullshit that I didn't understand and an environment with so much to do and so much hidden shit scattered around that I just decided to call it a day and see what other people make of it first. It's intimidating, maybe a little too much.
Only infuse gear into gear, it only costs glimmer. All gear drops like crazy.
bungie just wanted people to embrace the new forsaken weapons instead of stuffing all your crap into your midnight coups or whatever good y1 weapons you used. instead of complaining about this giant game try out the grind, which has been virtually missing for the past year causing people to hate the small time commitment you need to play the game. and for the dreaming city... to call it a mess of BS is severely devaluing the work put into it. the hobby of destiny is to hop in and potentially discover something new, and you not doing that will end you up in the crowd of "THIS was worth MY precious money?" people. so, go do yourself a favor and try out the amazing atmosphere of the stunning place and attempt to find a secret or two. you are very right with the intimidation factor, but you set yourself in the wrong direction by making that a reason not to go headfirst into the dreaming city. g'luck on your adventures.
Makes you more careful with what you infuse, brings more choice and grind into the game
It takes away choice, actually. I can't choose to infuse a piece of gear that I want, because I don't have the damn masterwork cores to do it. Sure, I could trade a couple thousand legendary shards for some cores, but I didn't grind like a fucking maniac in previous expansions, so I don't have that many. It's just more grind, not more choice.
@@ODST_Parker more of a difficult choice. Makes you think about what armor or weapons you really want to bring up. If you like grinding you love this
You could rate this expansion 100/100 and I would never buy this. Bungie has consistently screwed over the community and has even been shady about some of the mechanics they incorporate into the game. Bungie has become greed fueled with having micro transactions in the game while also charging full price for the expansion. They could have made simple changes over the course of D2s launch, but Bungie delayed a lot of things to incentivize people into purchasing Forsaken. I will never support a company like this.
Bungie is a company. Whether you like it or not, they have to make money. Yes, they've made plenty of questionable decisions, but that doesn't mean the game or series are bad, because they aren't. And Bungie realized they screwed up after the launch of D2, and gave free major updates every month after that until the DLCs released.
Frederick Joseph thank you for having a brain, they want 180$ for a full game and have been screwing over their loyal fan base from d1 they ripped all the good content from d1 and put it in with forsaken after scamming us for 100$ for the base game and their “expansions” people complain about this happening and still buy it. It doesn’t show the company that they’re wrong if they’re still making money.
Look at God of War and Mario/Zelda and see fantastic games that have little to no DLC that is REQUIRED to progress. Bungie is greedy af.
Have fun watching vids on the game while i experience it for myself because 40 dollars i worth the hours of enjoyment ill get from it
haydenaa A You are right that Bungie is a company, but companies have two options, either be successful or go out of business. What dictates a companies success? You need to make a profit and be able to keep loyal customers coming back. So let me ask you this, what has Bungie done to keep you as a loyal customer? From my perspective they have disrespected us as a customer by selling an uncompleted game, but there are so many issues beyond this. There was the XP controversy, locking content from people that didn't purchase the DLC, end game focused around eververse, but the list goes on. Don't get me wrong, the concept of Destiny, shooting mechanics and graphics/sounds are great. The problem lies with the companies core philosophies and one of the main ones is they are greed fueled. It's one thing to develop a good game and make money off it from just being good like God of War or Horizon Zero Dawn. I understand that destiny needs money to keep servers running and such, but to have Eververse, Prismatic Matrix, charge full price for expansions and DLC's is going overboard. They even lock stuff behind eververse that shouldn't even be there, remember the Iron Banner package that was 10 dollars. I wish Bungie would actually have like a 5 dollar a month subscription service instead of micro transactions. This would mean Bungie would have to produce a good product to keep players engaged with the game. If the game was garbage like how it was for nearly the entire part of year 1, imagine how much money would be lost. I'm sure seeing that money disappear would definitely force them to improve the game. Instead they make emotes and gear only available through eververse while degrading the game. I want to see the sales numbers for Forsaken, I'm hoping people wised up and have moved on from Destiny 2. Bungie has forever lost me as a customer.
My only rebuttal to that Gambit critique is regarding the Primeval buff stacks that you earn after you summon the Primeval. It becomes very easy to melt the boss in seconds and sets your damage compared the opposing team much higher.
I know very little about the lore, but when Mara said "O brother mine" I literally lost it. I was sooo excited to fight an Ahamkara, like, legit jumping in my seat because we've had hints of them since Destiny 1. And then there was a Chimera, and honestly, the wind was taken from my sails. I'm sure we'll fight one in the raid, but I was SOOOO excited to have that be the twist, but then it felt like they were kinda like "Oh here's another enemy that's behind the first enemy that's behind the main enemy." Idk, I loved it, but I was really hoping it would be an Ahamkara in the campaign. Mara's line gave me chills because the immediate implications were so incredible.
Bungie: “oh, you want the game fixed? That’ll cost you $40.” I mean come on, guys.. we really falling for this scam again??
Crazy because most of the fixes they made outside of the story content and weapons and armor it entails are entirely free
lol game fixed. no one told you you have to buy forsaken. go to borderlands if you wanna a looter shooter
Fanboyism at it's best. Get ripped off year 1 again. Want a better version? That will be 40 more dollars and the fanboys throw a new year's party..
@@kolz4ever1980 lol go play another game. no one said you had to play this one. we'll play our game and be happy and you can play your game and you'll be happy. comprende? mucho gusto mi amigo
@@cwj2733 like I said, fanboyism.. never said i played it dumb ass. Learn to read properly before replying...comprende ?... I know you plebs love being routinely fucked over for this game but good god get s reading lesson once in a while...
Just a shame they charged you for this. D2 should have been like this from start.
Mad Jack but it wasn’t so get over it
@@ontos8534 tool
Mad Jack yall a bunch of plebs lmao. Stfu complaining and dont buy it then
wolfwoodphreak same for you
@@chaotic3962 didn't buy it and will still complain because I can bitch lmfao
Look forward to your content a lot.
I'm loving Forsaken right now. I think Bungie nailed it. Technically... They fixed what they needed to fix. Added what they needed to be add.
Story-wise... I haven't been this invested in the story since.... Maybe ever.
Having fun with everything. Tons of stuff to do. Harder to get exotics, longer to complete quests, bounties....
Smiles and good times for the foreseeable future.
Keep up the quality content, Datto. You're killin' it.
Well we did speak once before on Venus in D1 Year 1. I think they removed the voice line but your character would chuckle and say "little light" after you finished talking to the exo stranger
Year one Destiny 2 was beta and we payed for it lmao.
Forsaken will never be the Taken King. the Taken King had Cayde.
Forsaken did have Cayde, did you not play the first mission?
Electron Gaming
Forsaken has cayde.
TTK was better because it's story wasn't "Hey remember this guy? He's bad now and kills the good man to make the you anger. Go kill bad man now".
Still made more sense than. "Yeah uldren is bad now for no actual reason".
@@KingOfHalla No reason? Did we play the same game? Uldren had a motive. He was looking for his dead sister. Everything he did was for her.
I thought that thing was a flood infected servitor 😂. I was expecting it to say “this is not your grave but you are welcome in it”
Datto the Matching within blind well is so much better than escalation
This is why I think it is.
Normally when someone shows up in blind well, you know they want to do blind well.
It’s easy to message that person and then get people in your fireteam
You have 9 people in a lobby before you know it who are all there to do blind well.
Where as when your on mars that might not always be the case