Amazon bought Sfeomi swing gate kit issue. No forward or reverse option. Loop only function.
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- The Sfeomi kit available from Amazon seems unable manage forward only or reverse only inputs. Although the control board has the terminals to allow these functions, this does not translate from board to motor. Only a loop function works, so you cannot select forward, stop, forward, stop for example. Each time a command is sent to the board to stop the motor, it reverses the polarity for the next "on" command. Each "on" command must be stopped by physical resistance, or by a pressing the same loop button to stop the motor.
So, the user cannot connect a push button and press forward/reverse for a few seconds to open/close the gate to a portion of the way. Although not tested, this may cause problems with the infrared safety sensors which are supposed to reverse the motor in the event the signal is broken. Theoretically, an opening gate could then close on a person/vehicle rather than the intended opening of the gate when closing.
Hi Gary, my gates have been opening/closing flawlessly for about 4 months. Yesterday they started opening and closing continuously. When gate 1 hits the physical stop it opens both gates and continues that cycle until I intervene. It seems the sensitivity of the obstacle obstruction has malfunctioned as I have adjusted this and no difference. Aby suggestions? Thanks
If you have done nothing to cause the problem, it may be that the IR sensors are being triggered when the gate is closing. You could try disconnecting these first to rule them out. Then try adjust the resistor on the board. Then block one the gates halfway through the cycle (before the normal stopping place). The results of these tests should give you a good clue as what the problem is.
Gary I wonder if those extra pins might be for ground loops and auto gate opening function?
Hi Gilberto. The problem is not with the board, as it has all the functions needed. The problem is the type of actuator in the kit. It only has two wires in which to connect to the board, so what happens in layman's terms is the two wires connect the motor to the board and the board switches the polarity after each cycle. It wasn't my preference for setup, but I made it work in a dumbed down version of automation where the open and close command are essentially "on" commands and move the motor in the opposite direction to its previous cycle. It simplified the whole setup and wiring, but I was disappointed to lose the ability I had planned just because the product being sold did not do what it was supposed to do. The finished product is here on my channel if you have not seen the video => czcams.com/video/O1SV-JjoI_o/video.html
The project and thesis landed me 80% for my final grade, so I achieved what I wanted with it.
Hi my friend, got a similar control unit. Quick question - the power supply, I'm in the UK, confused because it doesn't state where live neutral and earth go. Would you say live is in the fuse terminal? Left when looking from the top?
If you are asking about the main power supply, forward the video to 3 minutes. You will see the live and neutral wires (brown and blue) which I connected to the terminal block. The earth wire is just touching the metal chassis where the transformer is located.
Thanks for your fast response and I hope you don't mind me asking you further questions. So the live is button (in your video) right if your looking at the control unit, with the transformer at the top?
Also how do you connect the fob to the system?
@@nassermughal2962 No problem at all. I'm not sure what you mean by "So the live is button"...perhaps you meant to say "bottom"? If so, yes, the live is on the bottom right in my video. The fob should already be programmed to the board. If it is not, I believe there are instructions to in the manual to explain how to connect the fob. I have not looked at the control board since making this vide. Infact, the video was not supposed to be public...I made it for the seller of the product to show a problem. I expect to install everything this month. Just today, I completed the wiring up to the point where the control unit will be mounted. I will upload a video when it's complete.
Hi, I have problems with infrared emiter. The doors don’t close. Do you know how to cancel sensors in order to be able to open and close the doors ???
Thanks in advance.
BR
Disconnect the sensors to eliminate the feedback. The motors will work again if that is the problem. Mine are installed with no sensors at this time and gates work without them....obviously this means being extra careful until I install the sensors.
Hi Gary was just wondering I have the same system and I can’t get a replacement fob as I am in the north of Ireland was just wondering if you can get them in the south cheers
Brexit issue? The fobs can be purchased from everywhere and are pretty standard. I've seen the same kit being sold with different fobs on AliExpress. You need only pair your fob to the board. It's best to try get the same style, but really any RFID fob should do the trick. I can't recall if there are pairing details in the manual, but it should be online or available from the seller if not.
Hi Gary, got sonoff 4ch pro.
Could you let me know where I connect the wires between the sonoff and opener module?
Sure. So you have to set the SonOff into inching mode on whatever relay(s) you will be using for the motors. Let's assume relay 1 and 2. To do this, open the casing of the SonOff (4 screws at back) and on the board, you will see 2 red modules with k5 and k6. K5 sets the mode. Check the instructions and move the two tiny switches that control relay 1 and 2. Then turn on the power and test. When you press button 1 or 2, it should stay on only for a moment and then turn off. The other relays should work like a normal switch.
Now that you have done this. You will want to connect the relays to the motor board. Use the middle and left terminals for each circuit....so two wires per relay. These should be connected to pin 8 and 10 on the control board. Both motors will activate with the board. I have not tested how to control motors separately with the SonOff, because I am only using 1 motor for my swing gate and a different motor for a sliding gate. However, I would be willing to bet that completing and breaking a circuit between pin 10 and 9, or 10 and 7 would signal the other motor. You will see the LED lights activating above the blocks you connect the motor wires to. This will indicate which motor is being signaled. If they can be controlled separately on the FOB, they can be controlled separately with the hard wire....but I don't know if they can be controlled separately with the FOB....again, I didn't need 2 motors, so did not check.
If you accidentally blow a fuse, it will be at the top left of the board. where the transformer connects to the board. Replace with a fast acting 10Amp fuse. Amazon sell these in packs.
Hola a tod@s,
Le hice una modificación al microcontrolador que gestiona el mando, sí a alguien le interesa le explico.
Un saludo
Yeah sorry - that's the text prediction.. So just to confirm the live doesn't go on the fuse (left terminal) but goes on the right which isn't the fused terminal?
I'll subscribe to your channel so I can COPY lol!
The blue wires exiting the transformer connect to the board and this connects to a 10amp fuse. Connect the power supply to the terminal block as seen in the video if you have the same control board. If your unit is different, you may not be advised to follow this advice.
@Nasser. I was working on my motors yesterday. So, to properly answer your question, the board will work regardless of where the live and neutral wires are on the terminal block. However, it is best practice to connect the live wires into the block connected to the fuse on the block. So the brown wire goes where I have the blue wire and the the blue wire goes where I have the brown wire. My setup was only for testing and I was being a bit lazy not following protocol.
I have completed basic testing of my motor controls today and I will put out a video of this in a few days if you need me to. I am recording the content for my project anyway.
Thank you Gary, I did wire mine as you did and it worked completely fine without the motors attached. I was planning on testing with one Motor attached. I slightly concerned that the motors will either keep pulling or keep pushing the gate. Not sure how you set the open and close position..
@@nassermughal2962 The unit is limited somewhat which was disappointing for me. The motor will turn off when the resistance is increased. This happens when the gate meets the stop point and the actuator cannot push the gate any further. It also happens in reverse when the actuator cannot pull the gate any further. I have tested this by hand and managed to disengage the motor by holding the actuator arm still at the point it start top spin.
The limiting factor with the system is that you cannot select forward and reverse....at least not with an actuator with only two wires. You must rely on what is known as a loop function. So you press the button on the remote and the motor moves the arm forward. You then press the button to stop the motor, or the motor stops by resistance. The next time you press the button, the motor reverses. The problem here is that if you stop the gate halfway, the motor direction is reversed. I have not yet tested how this works with the infra red safety sensors.
I will only be using 1 linear actuator for 1 gate. The other gate will be a sliding gate, but I won't confuse you by trying to explain that here. Regarding the swing gate, I am also connecting buttons inside my property to activate the motors. This will give me more freedom and I will not solely rely on the remote fobs for control. How does this work? Well, if you look at the video near the end, I demonstrate how you can make connections between the pins to activate the board. If you look at the board you will see 10 pins from left to right on the bottom right of the board. Make a connection between pin 8 and 10. When you break the connection, the board sends a signal to activate the motor. Repeat the process to stop the motor. Repeat again and the motor is reversed. If you use a "non-latching" (aka momentary) button to make a simple circuit between pins 8 and 10, when you press the button the circuit is completed and broken the moment you release the button. This activates the board. Here is an example switch www.amazon.co.uk/Coolais-Momentary-Waterproof-Switches-PBSM-02/dp/B07L4LSXNR/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=momentary+button&qid=1615641252&sr=8-7
I am also using Alexa to control mine by means of a wi-fi relay controller. You need a module with "inching" function. This means when the relay is activated it deactivates within a second or two. This can be manually set or set via the modules app. The options vary but I have tested both types successfully. When the relay activates, it makes a connection with the circuit (pins 8 & 10) and when it deactivates, the connection is broken and the board activates the motor. Inserting the button in the middle of this circuit gives you the option to use the hard button, the button on the APP for the Wi-Fi module, voice control with voice assistant, or the supplied FOB. You can also sync a remote control to the relay module if you wished to.
I hope that helps
Thanks for all that information. I'm pretty much ready to test and will let you know how mine goes.
Thanks for comprehensive explanation on your plan and what problems your facing...I'm looking forward to seeing you finished product so I can possible copy ( if you don't mind) lol
Got all setup but one gate opens whilst other one closes. Whats wrong ?
Temporarily disconnect one of the actuators. Press the open/close button once to activate the connected actuator. When the cycle is complete, reconnect the other actuator and both will be set to open or close.
Alternatively you can switch the wires around on one of the actuators where it is connected to the control unit. This will reverse the polarity of the motor and then both motors will be set to the same direction.
@@GaryMeatsLife thanks mate I shall try tomorrow and let you know how I get on.
Dip switch setting
Hi Gary, need your help. Confused as I've set it up and it worked fine. After doing abit more tweaking to the gate. System seems to think when it's open it close and when it's closed it think it's open. Any idea how you reset the system or what I've done?
The wires connecting the actuator to the board. Switch them around. This will reverse the signal/direction.
Did that and it works perfectly... I have set my system up.. But don't have the sensors fitted.. What I was wanting to know is what do the twisting knobs do? It says sensitivity but not sure. Looking forward to your system set up!
@@nassermughal2962 The twisting knobs are variable resistors. I have not yet considered the adjustments of these but they can mean power output (how much force your motor exerts) or they could be related to the level of resistance the motor will stop at. This is a final stage setting. I tested my setup today on both motors and they are working as planned. Still much work to do, including excavation to bury cables and set track and gate stops into concrete.
I imagine your finished product will be of a really high stand. Unfortunately I've struggled with the burying of the cable so I've just cleated mine. Will look at burying in the future for sure
@@nassermughal2962 UK standards are very much the same as Ireland. You must use armoured cable for any runs outside the property. And you must bury cable underground if it is to cross the driveway. The standard depth in Ireland is 750mm. I am using Twin & Earth cable for the exterior run, but I am running it through galvanised pipe.
I think I've blown the system mate..
You can borrow the fuse from the right side of the board and put this into the fuse holder on the left. Order a fuse set
Hi Gary. I only seem to see the fuse on the right which is near 240v input. Where is the left fuse?
@@nassermughal2962 both fuses are at he top of the board in black cases on opposite sides to eachother
My gate video is now published and I have explained in the video in general terms how the system works. I hope it helps czcams.com/video/O1SV-JjoI_o/video.html&lc=UgyE6BXSORYovxUm_3t4AaABAg