Star Wars The Last Jedi 4K Blu-ray: Creative Intent or Fake HDR? [SPOILERS]
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- čas přidán 31. 07. 2024
- We analyse the HDR & WCG presentation on the 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray of Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi, using the award-winning HDR toolkit on the Canon DP-V3120 professional reference monitor.
With a peak brightness below 250 nits across the entire movie... is it creative intent or fake HDR?
Warning: This video contains spoilers for Star Wars: The Last Jedi.
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In real life, the sun can be quite bright
- Vincent Theo
It's a simple statement, but it's also very profound and brilliant.
But you put neutral density and close the aperture of your camera to bring it down.....
Very true
OUR sun is
@@alixmansell3581 Anything that is massive enough to self ignite in nuclear fusion is going to some kind of bright :p
We need more videos like these, Vincent is the only guy exposing these 4k HDR titles for being more like SDR
I could go for some exposure of TVs that use dithering to mask shortcomings in their panel's color capabilities. Terrible, horrible issue that even top reviewers almost never mention, let alone ding a TV for using. _Dithering lowers the screen's effective resolution. You aren't getting 4K when it's dithering._ It baffles me why makers are allowed to get away with this.
It doesn't make me feel bad pirating UHD discs when they are fake HDR.
Asterra2 rtings.com has been doing it for years.
@@rogerhalt3991 Rtings knows what dithering is, but they never address it directly in a review, nor grade a display one way or the other for said defect. FlatpanelsHD are the only ones I've seen underscore the issue. Nobody actually dings scores for it. Sony are the only makers out there, to the best of my knowledge, who do not employ dithering on their LCDs.
Perhaps you are thinking about gradients?
Really appreciate these videos. So many HDR discs that seem disappointing or underwhelming.
Do you think you could do a video that shows off movies with really high peak brightness? Maybe a video that shows off your favourite shots from multiple films?
I think he did a Mad Max Fury Road video for it's HDR performance.
(Spoiler it's over 9000)
The video he made on Mad Max Fury Road HDR shows really high peak brightness (over 9000 nits). That's often one of the good example. ^^
Yeah I would love a list of the best HDR movies instead of the ones to stay away from!
Some movies mastered in Dolby Vision are very eye catching, more than HDR 10! I like Valerian and the city of a thousand planets, Mortal Engines had some great scenes too, Aquaman and Black Panther were nice too!
Have a look at "the old guard" in Netflix...
Or "midway" from Roland Emmerich
Love it! So bad that this has NEVER been brought up by anyone else...
"NEVER" never happened in this regard.
2 1/2 yrs ago, when 1st released, the underwhelming HDR was exposed [p.i.] on CZcams:
czcams.com/video/mmI_rojXEQQ/video.html
@@saint6563 i stand corrected! I love films at home as well,recently discovered him.
Idk why people are praising Vinny so much. Realorfakehdr have been reviewing disks for a while. The UHD community has known for a long time that HDR is slapped on any 4k disk because it only, just about about reaches the required nit count for a few seconds of the whole movie for HDR.
The average owner of a 4k TV spends about $500 which is nowhere near enough to pay for a quality panel with true HDR nits (it’s around 400 which is not even high but that is what manufacturers consider good enough) and this bracket also has 8bit+ FRC which is not true 10bit colour.
this is an unique 4K UHD review angle few others have covered, you should keep doing this, supplements your channel well. just present the fact like it is, let viewers decide if it's "relevant" or "important" to them.
How strange that Force Awakens and Rise of Skywalker were both graded to >700 nits but Last Jedi only to 250. You would think they'd aim for more consistent visuals in a trilogy...
You'd also think they would aim for a more consistent story across a trilogy...
It is consistent with Rian Johnson's desire to destroy Star Wars.
@@TomlinsonHolman52583 @Rezzanine So maybe it was creative intent afterall? 😂
@@TomlinsonHolman52583 You people still exist? Do all of us and Star Wars a favor and find something else to do.
@@curtisbme Well, Daisy Ridley and John Boyega have officially become "you people". Just look at the comments they've made over the last several weeks...thus validating the position of the "you people" that "your people" speak of. "Those people" exist because their ideological positions are rooted and grounded in facts and reality. So long as reality is factual, "those people" will exist. I'm sorry that reality isn't your preference. But, unfortunately (for you); life isn't a choose your own adventure novel.
Fake HDR.
But Disney is a pain anyway: no dolby vision on their last reeditions UHD BD, awful aspect ratio on the UHD BD of the Avengers, very low volume on their sound mix and so many more. They do not respect their clients.
Yeah, Disney is evil
(most people don't care anyway but) their 3D also sucked (namely in rogue one) ... they just don't care about the technology. Like at all.
i wonder Disney + is different because all their recent 4K movies are Dolby Vision
Jean S Sullivan Yes.. That is this lack of support for the UHD BD vs Disney+ which “irritates” me. Best.
Actarus whats the aspect ration on avengers? Now im curious.
You're doing important work here. For some reason Disney just loves to release both fake picture and fake sound. Yes I used the f word lol.
Vincent, thank you for explaining the new 200 nits SDR in HDR changes. That was something I really needed.
There is a scene when Luke meets Yoda's Force Spirit and the tree was on fire. What was the peak brightness like in that scene?
Just checked... the fire is 170 nits.
@@hdtvtest many thanks!
I love that you're expanding your content with the topics you're choosing to cover for almost daily uploads. This will really help me dial in future videos to use as reference or demo content.
Hey Vincent, could we see the HDR10+ 4K copy of 2001: A Space Oddessy? This particular transfer was done by Nolan and it would be interesting to see how much a director of his calibre has applied HDR to a film that is not his own. Additionally, I've heard it's one of the best UHD discs ever released.
Also, on the subject of "fake HDR", there seems to be another elephant in the room that needs addressing. That being, fake 4K, or in other words, 1080p transfers upscaled into 4K, then sold and advertised as UHD. I am aware that on a technical basis, it is 4K in terms of the pixels onscreen, however, an upscale does not provide the same meaningful amount of detail as an actual native transfer.
Fake HDR, Fake 4K... The more I look into the UHD format, the more of a sham it all seems. I would not be surprised if we came across a film that was both an upscale and just SDR in a HDR container. All you're essentially paying for is marginally better compression, which is not always indicative of the films visual prowess.
Could an argument be made that you could achieve the same or similar visual results of these fake UHD HDR discs by passing a 1080p film through an advanced 4K upscaler, like an Nvidia shield?
Even 4K Blu-ray discs and its supposedly HDR promises cannot escape from Vincent's judgement.
Vincent is the judge, jury, executioner and is the law.
No...I am the law
Love these style of videos you've been doing. Great service to the community!
These videos are great, please keep them coming!
Thanks for all the effort you put into this, this is most informative to me to understand what to expect from UHD HDR disks in regards to max brightness
First of all thank you for all the great content, I have a question, you've chosen a couple of interesting films here, would the outcomes be the same for the other releases of Last Jedi and Blade Runner 2049? The earlier prints of Last Jedi had Dolby Vision and the U.S. version of Blade Runner 2049 has different Mastering Display and Content Metadata for HDR.
These are informative vids. Appreciate the work, Vincent.
I’d love to know the nits value in a specific scene in Gladiator - it was a standout moment in HDR imo during a leadup to a stadium battle, when the sun reflected off a senator’s (?) gold bracelet caused my eyes to temporarily fatigue!
I love your HDR analysis videos, keep it up
Thanks for these videos. I think it's important to always check if claims and promises of companies hold water. Now, if someone still wants to purchase these "fake HDR" titles that's totally fine but at least that person can now do it knowing what to expect.
Have you thought about doing a sort of "picture quality metrics 101" series? There's already a ton of nice info in your regular videos but I think it would be great to have some sort reference videos.
Hello. Just love your channel. Wanted to commend you for doing all these videos of the real deal about some of these 4k remakes and what is really worth purchasing. Truly appreciate all your work. Keep it going!
Hi Vincent, have you tried using this same or similar monitor to see if the Blade Runner 2049 4K disc contains colours beyond the Rec.709 colour space?
Vincent, you're more than what this world deserves. Much gratitude for your great work! I believe there should be a dedicated medium that reviews each major UHD release, on a technical front, just as you did here. Blu-ray.com has published so many misleading reviews that it's getting annoying.
I remember buying this on blu ray first and thinking wow, in the throne room because of the red color in it, so when I got the 4k disc I couldn't wait for that part of the movie, but it was worse than the blu ray! More money down the drain! Keep up the good work!!!
Wow first time I was first view on a you tube video. It’s good to see reviewers keeping the studios honest
You may want to try Rogue One - A Star Wars Story. From what I can tell the HDR in this movie is really good. Which is really funny if you compare it to the other Star Wars movies.
Great video as always! There's a point in the beginning I didn't quite grasp though, and I'm wondering if anyone can shed some light on it. I know conventional wisdom has been dark-room displays are calibrated to 100 nits (some calibrate to 120; I'm a touch brighter because I sometimes watch in a brighter room). I think I understand that calibrating SDR to 200 nits reflects the HDR picture better. But I'm wondering, then, if that's a suggestion that future calibration guidelines for display set SDR to 200 nits instead? Or is 100 still the *watching* standard for SDR calibration? Thanks for any clarification.
Just wondering if you used the disc that had the Dolby Vision on it or the newer version that id HDR only. Also could you do a compare of the Dolby Vision vs HDR. Maybe the Dolby Vision is over 250 nits or maybe both disc have different master HDR versions
In the post production business we use a device colloquially known as a "legalizer" that is generally in the signal path between a master videotape or Mezzanine video file and a destination format such as another videotape during duplication. The "legalizer" is setup with parameters in regards to luminance, chromanance, pedestal, etc so that if a source exceeds the preset parameters it will "clip" the signal so that the new signal is within the new values. I wonder if what we are observing here is a "legalized" copy instead of the fully realized master? Just a thought.
Great work Vincent! Keep those fake HDR videos coming. We want to know.
In this episode of "creative intent" or fake hdr. LOL
Fantastic information!
Thank you and please continue these videos. Can you please confirm some of the Disney and Other titles that don’t have metadata?
Just need a table of tested blurays with actual hdr performance values, just to skip those not very creatively inteded ones.
Hi Vincent, thanks a lot for such a great review of the HDR in this movie, is it possible you will do more vidies like this? At least 1 per week?
Was this the original DV/HDR release or the later HDR10 only release like what came in the box set? Just wondering if there was a difference.
Why doesn't more TVs have waveform analysis tools built in? It's one of the features I miss most from the Panasonic PT-AT6000 projector I used to use (the other feature I miss being not having to use 15 button presses to get to brightness and contrast settings)
Would like you to review the on the sound bar Nakimachi shockwave 9.2.4. but sure if you can get it in the UK.
Nice! @4:36
Do any colors show up in the bt 2020 color space that is beyond sdr?
Hey, do you know when you will be back doing tv calibration? Thanks👍
Was the Rise of Skywalker (ep. IX) a good HDR movie in nit terms?
Vincent made a video on that.
Thank you so much. Please do more videos like this.
Can you check out game of thrones season 8 on 4k blu ray?
Hello Vincent, thanks for these HDR-Testvideos. I think, they really are very interesting.
I'd like to know which version of The Last Jedi 4K-BD was tested here. The first edition had Dolby Vision HDR while the current one, that's also included in the Skywalker Saga Collection, only has HDR10. Since they may have different levels of peak brightness, I'd like to know which one was tested here.
By the way, the colorist for this movie might argue, that, although the sun certainly isn't very bright on any planet, they are in fact supposed to be two or more different suns that don't necessarily have the same Absolut Magnitude (= brightness) as our sun. So in principle, it really could have been creative intent in this case.
Hey Vincent, what movie would be your recommendation for testing out the HDR capabilities of TVs? What movies stand out exceptionally in color and peak brightness?
Fury Road, Miss Peregrines home.
Really appreciate you doing this as no one else does, and this shit should be disclosed at on the box if you ask me. Nearly every other HDR movie I watch ends up being so unimpressive in terms of highlights on the x900f which can hit about 1000 nits, so enough to make a clear if the difference if the implementation is good.
This is straight-up deception as HDR is one of the selling points of UHD Blurays, yet it's technically not even there in like half of them. PLEASE do one on fucking Star Wars Solo when you get the chance. As far as I recall that movie was barely watchable even in SDR
What is the max brightness and average frame brightness metadata that you normally include on these videos?
I was watching Force Awakens and was blown away by the presentation and HDR highlights. Went straight into this and right away could tell that it had way less HDR impact, especially in explosions and sparks. Disappointing that the movies are not consistent in their presentation.
Vincent could you clarify if you are looking at the Dolby Vision version of the movie? The first UHD release of The Last Jedi had DV but was removed in the reissued versions
The Canon monitor does not accept Dolby Vision signal, so we were analysing the base HDR10 layer.
@@hdtvtest Noted, thanks!
Thank you, much appreciate it.
I have been underwhelmed by Star Wars and Blade Runner HDR presentations, so I am very grateful for your analysis here! The Matrix is a well regarded transfer, and I would be interested to see that analysed. Also, is the Canon monitor a permanent addition to your test kit Vincent?
The original and best Blade Runner has great looking HDR. I don't have the tools to measure it but my Panasonic UB9000 reads almost 1700 nits maximum scene brightness mastered at 4000 nits. The Matrix looks great too. I hope Vincent analyzes both.
No, the Canon monitor will have to go back since it's a loan unit... we couldn't afford to buy it outright.
Hey Vince, because I know you don’t already have enough work on your plate. A reference document on google drive would be really great. A doc that is similar to Doug Demuro’s car review channel. “Doug score”. So essentially you could assign a score to each tv you review based on several parameters and make a recommendation based on value and use case. If you are interested I can send you a template of what I am talking about.
Good work 👍 appreciate.
Vincent, maybe I'm reading this wrong but why does the ITU's BT.2048-3 report (dated July 2019) state that "The signal level of “HDR Reference White” is not related to the signal level of SDR “peak white”." when referring to the recommended 203 nits diffuse level on the table on page 5? Is there a later version where they state that this is now recommended for SDR?
It just means it's no longer 100 nits.
@@hdtvtest For HDR, yes, they settled on this recommendation a while ago as BT.2048-0 was published in 2017 with the same figures, but where does the document say that SDR should now be set to this level?
Would love to see the analysis of the other star wars movies, particularly the recent 4K releases and how they compare HDR-wise with their Disney+ counterparts. I know for the most part the HDR is pretty conservative from my understanding though.
What's about the consumer's intent to purchase an Hdr movie when it's advertised by the studio. Creative Intent shouldn't allow for fraud.
For the last time, HDR is independent of WCG. Wide colour gamut use doesn't mean that a piece of content is automatically "HDR".
@Amir Mustafaa following that logic studios should be allowed to release any of their movies old or new with out touching the color grading slap Hdr on the box and call it a day that is a weak counter point.
Hi Vincent
Is there any difficulty producing hdr discs technically
Yeah, it's impossible
Off topic here, but can you start doing HDR10 vs. HDR10+ vs. Dolby Vision comparisons now to see what differences the two dynamic metadata HDR formats make from the static metadata of HDR10, since there are some 4K Ultra HD Blu-rays that have both HDR10+ and Dolby Vision on them?
Thank you for this, sir! This is slapping the customer in the face.
could you check alita battle angel in one of the future videos, Vincent? I feel they did a pretty bad job at it but I just can't tell wether I'm wanting too much or they actually dropped the ball
I'm not impressed with that disc at all. I think it looks soft, and in both Dolby Vision and HDR10+ it looks like SDR to me. It also has a 2K DI so it's kinda fake 4K.
I think Disney is catering to the lowest common denominator as far as HDR is concerned.
Will you guys do an HDR analysis of Cyberpunk 2077 when it is out in November (hopefully)? That would be amazing!
@@PhilBaxter That's really not true. Implementations vary widely, and most people are viewing HDR games on TVs, rather than monitors, as PC HDR suppory is still pretty shaky.
Vincent, do you know, if the Dolby Cinema presentation of the same movies is also conservative or has some 1200nits peaks?
Dolby Cinema is maxing out at just above 100 nits (as a system. You cant make 1000 or 10 000 nits big screens in a theater with a projector) . Therefore the critisism on this youtube channel is something I would take with a grain of salt. Also: Dolby Cinema is ALSO about the 0 nits blacks, because they have a laser light source that is switched completely off within a few ms. HDR is not only abut max nits, it's also about contrast which is a function of max nits and min nits that can be presented on the screen inside the same frame).
The Dolby cinema was just below 100nits peak, but the perception is different because your entire field of view is covered with the screen and you're in a pitch dark room.
Another brilliant video. Would you mind if I quoted your reviews of these fake HDR discs on my own channel? I'd love to do a video on it.
Sure, please go ahead.
5:38 but they already look bright enough. what benefit would more brightness give even if mastered in HDR? I mean I get light going into a dark room and that 3D feel and good contrast but for the saber in a well lit area? not sure tbh. I still agree that they shouldn't call it HDR and sell it as hdr when its just sdr in an hdr container.
I want to see Aquaman. That seems like a true HDR movie.
**FACEPALM**
Could it be that they do this because they expect people will watch in a dark room, so they don't want 1000 nits flaring in your eye all of a sudden during moments with sunsets, lightsabers and so on?
Which would totally defeat the purpose of HDR, where Dolby Vision was originally designed for 10,000 nits of peak highlights
Just curious, the original 4k disc released by disney included a dolby vision hdr grade, and was subsequently released with just hdr10 after disney apparently disavowed DV. Is it possible the original grade is a better use of hdr?
No they are identical.
walter volpatto How do you know?
There should be a database with this data where we can lookup movies. Uhd disks are not cheap... is there a way to automate the analysis?
Much needed for us movie fans to avoid wasting our $$$. Thank you again for info
Any chance you will be reviewing the Nolan Batman trilogy? I think they do look absolutely stunning on an OLED tv
Cheers Vincent. I watched The Force Awakens just before watching The Last Jedi. TFA has brilliant HDR. The light sabers look properly lethal on my 85-inch QN94C Samsung. I'm using a Panasonic UB820 by the way. The light sabers look so bright that they could cut through the TV. LOL. But, TLJ looks completely weak in comparison. For me, it spoils my enjoyment of the movie - because I now know how good it CAN look. Creative intent or not - I think lethal weapons - should look exactly that - lethal. Like the planet killer - when that fires, my whole living room lights up! LOL. Anyway, I'm glad I saw your video - because for a time, I was checking the 4K Blu-Ray box and my equipment - thinking that somehow, my equipment wasn't processing HDR properly. So, thanks again Vincent! Keep up the good work.
Have you ever looked at the peak brightness of John Wick 2? It has to be pushing close to 1000nits peak brightness. Looks amazing on a Pro Display XDR like looking through a window.
what about last jedis dolby vision?
Doing gods work
So, let's hope the tv on the background to be reviewed is the Hisense U8QF,... ! ?? As it vould also be the oled.. But the u8qf would be much more interesting..
Please breakdown John Wick 4K trilogy. Favs on my 120” BW 1.3 screen with JVC 2000 & Panasonic 820
Again, the UHD is displaying the movie as close as possible to the way the filmmakers wanted it. You can’t get a “better” transfer beyond that. I’m actually glad Disney didn’t pump up the brightness just to meet somebody’s arbitrary nits standard, like the Pacific Rim UHD. That release was fake HDR if anything is.
I get the feeling you could be served a boiled boot at a restaurant and defend it as the chefs creative intent.
@@cho4d Lol what sense does that make? The closest to that actual comparison would be something like if Disney decided to tint the whole movie puke green for the UHD and then I was trying to defend that. All they did was faithfully transfer a finished 4K movie over the way it was created and mastered by the filmmakers, who didn't want to use a lot of nits in their film. I don't see how it's any different than a filmmaker deciding to make a black and white film, or shoot digitally as clean as possible, or shoot with 16mm film, etc.
Even though the UHD BD discs of BR2049, The Last Jedi and 1917 might not qualify as HDR, they are still 10-bit color (or WCG), or am i wrong? Those discs are based on 4K DI's and shows very nice detail compared to the standard Blu-Rays, and to me also the colors looks much better.
Yes, we are very specific in distinguishing/ separating HDR from WCG.
The best way to view this movie would be the perfect black route, which is identical on OLED's and LCD's :D
Vincent is the best!! I'm sure all the reviewers a 4K media don't mean any harm but, let's face it, this is out of their league. If Vincent decides to review movies I will watch everyone.
I guess some people in the movies industries are old fashioned and won't adopt real HDR. I read somewhere that Tarantino doesn't like HDR and doesn't care for his movies to go to UHD .
Same with Deakins i guess. But it will become the norm with the new generation of film makers and technicians.
There is no real HDR, except when it comes to photography and CG work
@@MarCuseus Are movies not a combination of photography and GC work?
Tarantino does show an interest in larger film formats (65/70 mm) for both shooting and release, so it seems counter intuitve that would not want for his movies to go to UHD, even if he just used the advantages of 4K resolution, WCG, and more efficient codecs and higher bit-rates to make the home release closer to the 70mm release he seems to really champion.
That doesn't mean it isn't true, but it just seems strange.
So you are saying that all these movies on analog have sdr ?
@@ag578glaup5 it's all "sdr" if you will
I would love it if you review Interstellar next.
Damn, another one. I would lose my shit if most of my entire library is fake hdr.
Realorfakehdr have been reviewing disks for a while.There are updated lists out there with new titles and information about each one.
"Hocus pocus HDR"! I don't get the controversy. But if you don't trust Vincent's measurements, why even watch the guy?
Thank you for saving my money!!!
i experienced this too and i was so disappointed. the same with game of thrones (hdr10) season 1 ultra hd bluray. could you confirm this?
this is why i watch these contents with the perfect natural reality function on my philips OLED804 tv
This video is pretty level headed, good info and foundation for discussion. I see why you did it this way this time, but don't be too cowed by the blowback. All they're doing is trying to force their interpretation of it. Also, this UHD has always kind of sucked. The resolution was good and the limited HDR makes it seem more natural... but it's always been a bit dim and epitomizes grey blacks. Sometimes I wonder if specifically Disney's aversion to bright HDR is potentially rooted in seizure liabilities.
Please do Pitch Black.
Are there any HDR films you would recommend?
The Matrix has great HDR.
please consider back to the future when it comes out later this year. i think many of us are excited about that release
Universal Studios usually does a great job with HDR grading. Back to the Future is getting both Dolby Vision and HDR10+, can't wait!
Whats up with vizio videos im wating for a review. Please and thank you.
I would like you to check the John Wick trilogy's HDR, please!
Oh no Vincent! You did not really *ding* the lightsaber, did you?!
Hahaha while saying " the most exciting thing"
Love the title. 😆
What gets ignored is, that the Star Universally Nurturing (or SUN as you like to call it) in the historically accurate on screen representations vary widely in their intensity from the Deep Core to the Inner Rim to Wild Space! The Tatooine SUN is much different than the Kashyyyk Sun much less the dimly glowing orb that Exegol travels around in a stretched out circular path.
The brightest thing in ANY Star Wars film is the audience, they choose their own brightest aspect of the film being shown on the day. Basically a pit of "Nit" Picky "Nit" Witted dipsticks following wonderfully Knit Scripts and
Oh yes....I have sun puns son! and sky high rhymes keeping time with sublime chimes of space-time crime from a street corner pantomime in Anaheim to the haughty minds at lunch time outside the Guggenheim.
Love your channel. But your sense of humor could be more dry! 😏 Which makes the high tech talk more palatable like a fine red wine with a big beefy steak at dinner time.
Just to be clear...I'm not calling you a beef cake, or saying you whine all the time, merely trying to call to mind how a wine although dry at times, combined with bovine is oft-times sublime.
-✌🏼
Can You Tell me wich HDR content is better? Blu Ray or streaming? Because I bought a movie from a streaming service with her 10 plus! In my opinion I I always thought that the blu ray is better!!!!
Neither is HDR...
@@MarCuseus Not even on 4 k blu ray???????
@@alincocendau7336 No, it's just marketing bullshit. It is "tone mapping". Real HDR is used in the fields of photography and CGI. And even in those cases it is an effect which is not visible. Mainly due to the fact that monitors cannot display spots that are brighter than 255. Obviously parts of a TV screen can't get as hot as the surface of the sun. Do you see people cover their eyes "because the so called HDR tv is so incredibly bright"? No.
@@MarCuseus Thnx...wish you all the best!!!!!
Could you do Gemini man I know it’s not a good movie but it looks amazing the last Jedi on the other hand I also thought it looked underwhelming keep exposing this as we are getting ripped off :)
And here I am worrying about peak brightness on tvs. These discs don't go over 250 nits!
No one counts nits better than Vincent.
HDR is so overlooked by absolutely everyone it's pretty depressing. Not only the consumer, but also the brands and the resellers. Here in France in any TV store I go they never EVER mention the pic brightness... So annoying
Because there is no real HDR
@@MarCuseus Yeah but I mean at least advertise our pick brightness for god sake