Muhammad Was A Christian? - The Search for Muhammad - Episode 14
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- The man named Muhammad that holds all the traditional beliefs of Muslims was not actually the Muhammad they believe him to be. The 7th century Muhammad was a Christian Arab whose life took him to the North away from the Mecca Medina area where so much tradition is placed. Watch as Al Fadi and Dr. Jay reveal the historical inaccuracies of the Muhammad Islam is based upon.
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AMEN, I LOST MY FAITH IN MUHAMMAD, I DECIDED TO FOLLOW JESUS CHRIST OF THE BIBLE
Come to Jesus 🫶🏽Jesus is love ❤ mercy ❤Jesus love muslims and jews and all people.
Now we know of how history about Mohammed. No wonder many Persians has opened thier hearts to Jesus. GOD BLESS to both of you.
WHY? Muhammad was a child molester mass murder, why is that good for christianity? His teachings were the exact opposite of islam. To claim that muhammad was christian is stupid at best. Are you christian if you do not follow christianity? How stupid can you be?
@@AntiAtheismIsUnstoppable we actually don't know if that was the historical Muhammad
@@AntiAtheismIsUnstoppable
we are only Christian when we follow Jesus Christ and not the Catholic traditions...
@@AntiAtheismIsUnstoppable as has been said before, the Mohammed that is painted in the muslim sources is an islamicized version of this king, "they are redacting their Mohammed to him". So don't attribute the wicked deeds of "prophet Mohammed" to this king Ilyas.
@@nadra2409 That was not the question. This fraud channel claims that muhammad was a christian, THEN I question *_Was muhammad christian when he did not follow christianity?_*
Do you know how insanely stupid you sound when you take this channels claims seriously? That's what amazes me the most. That there are - *_supposed_* - christians here who actually believe the bullshit. I ask again:
*_Are you a christian when you do NOT follow christianity?_*
Muhammad was certainly not a christian, but he had been initiated to the christian and jewish religions, and borrowed many things from them to create his own religion...
@mysotiras7
That's true, there are no undisputable evidences that he really existed, He might as well been invented later......
Wow amazing as always. Prayers to you both! God bless you
In the end, the whole world will have to choose between the worship of One God and Monotheism (ISLAM) or a Trinity god and Polytheism (Christianity). I choose the Lord of Abraham and Islam.
@Pooja S Moses went to HAJJ in Mecca and wanted to bring the Israelites for Pilgrimage -
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@Pooja S - If you know everything then i have no reason to explain anything.
Keep Unpacking! Thank You! God Bless you Both!
This is good stuff. You guys are finally putting the jigsaw pieces together as to the TRUE origins of Islam.
It's definitely an eye opener. Very credible reasoning based on the evidence.
So many coincidences, questions are being asked and being answered. Great work guys.
@Forgiving Fragrance
That's Islam in a nutshell --- "spreading lies and hiding the truth" via Islam's god-approved principle of taqiyya.
when muslims try to solve jigsaws they try to put triangles in circular holes and have to take scissors to the puzzle
@@RudyCarrera
And you expect me to believe some article which itself will probably be riddled with taqiyya. Pull the other one, mate.
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wgt
Sounds true to me. Muhammad was a Christian. Islam took ideas, places & people from Judaism, Christianity & Zoroastrian, so why not claim a Christian by the name of Muhammad? Not much original in the Quran.
Muhammad broke all ten commandments. Explain how he could be christian.
Najran was a Christian city before Muhammad's soldiers annihilated everyone and destroyed the churches. The south of the Arabian peninsula was Christian.
@@eduardofernandes2355 It will be a Christian city again. Islam is failing badly as it is being exposed.
From your past videos, this is what i gathered and this is how Islam started, Some of the successful tribal leaders started claiming that their appointment was from God, a singular diety stolen from Jewish tradition. The appointment itself stolen from Persian pagan and jewish beliefs. That is why they were so successful in it's initial period, they were not considered outsiders of different religion but one among the people themselves. The Caliphs were not called Caliphs till the mid 8th or 9th century, mohammad did not appear on the scene till mid 7th century. People who have tried to find proof about mohammad have come up with nothing till date.
@Felsimore Gumtang There's nothing solid in there, that's exactly rhe point.
@Felsimore Gumtang Eho's message, we are yet to locate the real muhammad.
Your clsrification is exactly the point i am making, this is acceptable in all the religions of ME. Judaism, Christianity, Zorastrianism, even the mongol and kurdish tribal religion and that is what i am saying. This message clarity is from it's dominance in the ME cultures.
@Felsimore Gumtang Your assumption only holds if infact thete was such a person and there's just no evidence of that. That makes the tradition and it's God a lie. If you are comfortable with it who am i to stop you but that places you in the same catagory as the atheists, who have their own Gods, namely themselves. You just can't believe in make belief and call yourself theist. It must have atleast some modicum of truth.
@Felsimore Gumtang You know that's a folklore, there's no proof, that's the confusion we are talking about.
@Felsimore Gumtang You are deflecting the issie of truth, it's not what you understand but what you were given to understand. God knows each from before our beginning.
If you don't get it, maybe you are not supposed to.
Its an interesting subject, thanking you both for exposing more about Muhammad and Islam. God bless u both abundantly
I think it's not so much 'exposing' Islam, as clarifying it! So King Iyas ibn Qabisah might not have been a prophet, but he may have been a 'Paul'... a vessel chosen by God to help spread the Abrahamic faith to the then-pagan Arab people. Perhaps we should list him as Saint Mohammed!
We thank to the Lord that he gives us knowledge and understanding,that Satan cannot decieve us,Glory be to God through CHRIST our Lord
The truth is if you die with the belief of jesus is god/ son of God you will never be happy again. Direct to hell fire.
Better Wake up before it's too late.
Dear@@kamogawaheid7605 :
💞🆚⚔️ If you die believing that you are a disposable slave, only good for "holy" war, then you would live a Hell on Earth & in afterlife,, but if you accept JESUS' teachings, you would be FREE, a Lovely Child of GOD, better than a pseudo prophet of HATRED & WAR. 🌐🕊️
wgt
@ValentínF. my friend thank you for your comment I really appreciate for your time.
1. In rules of Islam killing Is permissable to those whom Allah Judged as one of the punishmentsbin the rules of your democratic country.
So it's permissable. Most of you haven't yet believed that this way of terrorism style of killing (coming)people in the image of Islam is being planned and done by western countries ( coz of their hatred upon Islam).
Do research.
2. At the closing of this world, worlds and heavens will perish, now I see no reason of working for heavens, I'm only focused on Jannah my dear.
Thanks again
@@williamgarayua5878 Thanks Mr William Garayua .
But please let me asure you hell is for real (a burning dark fire) and it will burn ;
whoever leave this world life believing that God has a helper/ child that you pray through his name,( God wants us to pray to Him direct, no third-party coz no body helped Him in creating you).
Whoever says jesus is lord, if you die with such a belief, my dear will be tears only.
Besides who is jesus, is that his real name ?
Was that the name that his mother called him?
I believe and you can do research, that even Jews knew him as Isa ibn Mariam.
Isa ibn Mariam (alayhi Salaam)
we Muslims (from Our Lovely Prophet MUHAMMAD ﷺ) we know Isa ibn Mariam (alayhi Salaam) More than non Muslims.
We believe him as a second Last prophet of Allah, (and that's the truth)
We Love him (Isa) As we Love all prophets of Allah.
My dear friends, always remember this day....
When the one you call your savior will ignor you.
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5: Ayah 116
وَإِذۡ قَالَ ٱللَّهُ يَٰعِيسَى ٱبۡنَ مَرۡيَمَ ءَأَنتَ قُلۡتَ لِلنَّاسِ ٱتَّخِذُونِي وَأُمِّيَ إِلَٰهَيۡنِ مِن دُونِ ٱللَّهِۖ قَالَ سُبۡحَٰنَكَ مَا يَكُونُ لِيٓ أَنۡ أَقُولَ مَا لَيۡسَ لِي بِحَقٍّۚ إِن كُنتُ قُلۡتُهُۥ فَقَدۡ عَلِمۡتَهُۥۚ تَعۡلَمُ مَا فِي نَفۡسِي وَلَآ أَعۡلَمُ مَا فِي نَفۡسِكَۚ إِنَّكَ أَنتَ عَلَّٰمُ ٱلۡغُيُوبِ
(Mufti Taqi Usmani)
And when Allah said, “O ‘Īsā, son of Maryam, did you say to the people: ‘Take me and my mother as gods beside Allah?” He said, “Pure are You, it does not behoove me to say what is not right for me. Had I said it, You would have known it. You know what is in my heart, and I do not know what is in Your’s. You alone have full knowledge of all that is unseen.
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Ayah 117
مَا قُلۡتُ لَهُمۡ إِلَّا مَآ أَمَرۡتَنِي بِهِۦٓ أَنِ ٱعۡبُدُواْ ٱللَّهَ رَبِّي وَرَبَّكُمۡۚ وَكُنتُ عَلَيۡهِمۡ شَهِيدٗا مَّا دُمۡتُ فِيهِمۡۖ فَلَمَّا تَوَفَّيۡتَنِي كُنتَ أَنتَ ٱلرَّقِيبَ عَلَيۡهِمۡۚ وَأَنتَ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَيۡءٖ شَهِيدٌ
(Mufti Taqi Usmani)
I have not said to them anything but what You have ordered me to say, that is, ‘Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord’ and I was a witness over them as long as I was with them. But when You recalled me, You were the One watching over them. You are a witness over everything.
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Ayah 118
إِن تُعَذِّبۡهُمۡ فَإِنَّهُمۡ عِبَادُكَۖ وَإِن تَغۡفِرۡ لَهُمۡ فَإِنَّكَ أَنتَ ٱلۡعَزِيزُ ٱلۡحَكِيمُ
(Mufti Taqi Usmani)
If You punish them, they are Your slaves after all, but if You forgive them, You are the Mighty, the Wise.”
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Ayah 119
قَالَ ٱللَّهُ هَٰذَا يَوۡمُ يَنفَعُ ٱلصَّٰدِقِينَ صِدۡقُهُمۡۚ لَهُمۡ جَنَّٰتٞ تَجۡرِي مِن تَحۡتِهَا ٱلۡأَنۡهَٰرُ خَٰلِدِينَ فِيهَآ أَبَدٗاۖ رَّضِيَ ٱللَّهُ عَنۡهُمۡ وَرَضُواْ عَنۡهُۚ ذَٰلِكَ ٱلۡفَوۡزُ ٱلۡعَظِيمُ
(Mufti Taqi Usmani)
Allah will say, “This is a day on which the truth of the truthful shall benefit them. For them there are gardens beneath which rivers flow, where they will live forever. Allah is well-pleased with them and they are well-pleased with Him. That is the great achievement.
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Ayah 120
لِلَّهِ مُلۡكُ ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَٱلۡأَرۡضِ وَمَا فِيهِنَّۚ وَهُوَ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَيۡءٖ قَدِيرُۢ
(Mufti Taqi Usmani)
To Allah belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and of whatever lies therein, and He is powerful over everything.
THIS is why Al-lah allowed Kahdija to die a Christian believing Christ died and rose as per the gospel
GOD BLESS BOTH
Khadijah R A was the first person to accept Islam without questioning
God allowed people to die...???? 😂 I thought islam believed izrael is the one who take people live to die.. without izrael, people will live forever, even when you beheaded.... 😂
Kahdija was invested Islam not muhammed
Khadija was not a Christian. Christians of those days don't marry different religion. She was a hectic Christian such as JW of today.
@Forgiving Fragrance
That's just another taqiyya lie of Islam
hi im from the Philippines keep doing it a lot of Pilipino following your sites.
So now you believe that muhammad was christian, what doctrines of christianity did he follow exactly? are you atheist? or just very low IQed?
@@AntiAtheismIsUnstoppable So now you believe that muhammad was christian,
> yes he was, he believed the trinity as: Allah, Isa & Marry.
> He has low IQ.
@@reijuv6008 you’re right!
@@AntiAtheismIsUnstoppable 😂 he was a heretical Christian that got his idea from a Nestorian Christian(khadijas cousin- waraqah) 😆
Viral this
Turn to Jesus Christ the King of kings and Lord of lords the alpha and omega the beginning and end time's Up get ready for Jesus Christ he is risen and coming back soon
@Felsimore Gumtang What is the real name of muhammad?
Jesus wasn’t real either
@Felsimore Gumtang *You display your Ignorance* Christ is not part of a name, but a Title. It used to be the people would say *Jesus **_the_** Christ* to point to the Son of God the Christians accepted. The Jewish form of Jesus was one name other Jews als were given by their parents. Anytime if one hears Jesus Christ it is understood that *Jesus **_the_** Christ* is meant.
*HTH*
Read 1st. John 17:3
@@garethde-witt6433 Jesus was real Josephus Jewish Historican from the 1st Century wrote about him
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In the end, the whole world will have to choose between the worship of One God and Monotheism (ISLAM) or a Trinity god and Polytheism (Christianity). I choose the Lord of Abraham and Islam.
@@dfwtransport2420 You need to actually watch the videos. You would learn something.
@@dfwtransport2420 😂 are you kidding 😂
Do you think the Islamic allah a.k.a Mohammed is the God of Abraham? 😂
Come on bro wake up. There are too many alarming red flags that exposes the Islamic allah as a fraud that is masquerading as the God of Abraham
Please viral
Heee, what an amazing team.
Unmasking the hidden facts.
Well done sirs, because, you have done it so well brothers.
Jesus is King !!!
Interestingly, when i try to google for ilyas ibn qabisah in russian to see whether there has been any coverage of him in historical overviews across the post-soviet countries no results come out for ilyas himself, but the list is full of references to mohammad's biographies and life stories...
Дайте мене, пожалусто, что Вы искали в Google.
Muhammad was as much a Christian as Joseph Smith was. They both had the same spirit
Actually, you're closer than you can imagine. Both systems were heavily indebted to the heretic Arius.
@@RudyCarrera Yep they were both heretic sons of the devil
Joseph Smith modeled his religion after Islam. He called himself The New Muhammed and the Book of Mormon was Another Koran.
@@fantasia55 Do you have a source for him calling himself "the new Mohammad?"
@@kilemyers5365 My bad. He called himself a Second Muhammed:
www.fairlatterdaysaints.org
Great discussion thank you I'm learning a lot.
Hi ,is your surname Samaria
Praise be to Jesus Christ
Muhammad was jew, and Jesus travelled to India and became hindu
When I tell truth, I don't have to remember what I tell.
When I tell lies, I must always remember what I have told and prepare another lie after lie after lie.
@Felsimore Gumtang
Anyone who has a functioning brain cannot swallow the trinity listed illogically above:
1- The prophet Muhammad peace be upon him did not exist
2- The prophet Muhammad peace be upon him was idol worshipper
3- The prophet Muhammad peace be upon him was a Christian.
Based on this illogical trinity, we can conclude that the fallacies of Islam haters are instable and illogical because:
1- If the prophet Muhammad peace be upon him didn't exist then he cannot be idol worshipper or Christian.
2- If the prophet Muhammad peace be upon him was idol worshipper and also Christian then you presume that Christians are idol worshippers??!
3- If the prophet Muhammad peace be upon him was a Christian then he cannot be Idol worshipper nor inexistent as a person instead of being an idea
To those promoting this false trinity I say: TAKE YOUR PILLS IMMEDIATELY, CALM YOUR RAGE AND START BY READING ISLAM OBJECTIVELY NOT WITH HATRED.
@Felsimore Gumtang It's very easy to prove that islam is false in each and every category you can come up with.
*Ethics:* Muhammad was 54 when he raped aisha who was only nine eyars old.
*Theology:* Muhammad spoke with the tongue of satan according to qiuran, and he was controlled by black magic according to sahih hadeths
*Science:* The sun sets in a pool of hot water and camel urine is good for you
*Logic:* The quran claims that noone can make anything like quran, however, hadeths tell us that muhammad got many verses from other people, and furthermore it tells us that muhammad spoke with the tongue of satan, so satan made quran verse too
*History:* Historically, there is overwhelming evidence that quran has not been perfectly preserved, and this is backed by many hadeths, for example the hadeths about the tame sheep which ate the verses about stoning and breast feeding adult men
@Ishmael Abraham Is that why muslims believe in at least four deities, not included al-Lat and al-'Uzza and Manat?
@Ishmael Abraham
Dear Ishmael I do thank you for explaining the psychology of christianism in few words.
But the most important part was not highlighted or omitted. I'll explain:
1- if you check the root of the word GOD you'll find that it's a translation made by "priests" and "rabbim" who were forced to make the translation for Romans.
2- GOD or DIEU or DIOS or THEOS or ZEUS has never been said by Jesus or Moses. The question is who kept this names to be known worldwide and preached?
3- GOD initially was taken from G-D. A name that Talmudic Rabbim do pretend to be Holy. Is it true or simply related to magic and sorcery and meaning : Great-Devil or Great-Dog (Sirius Star worshipped for sorcery). And also never pronunced by Jesus or Moses.
4- More and much flipping, all the other names Christians and Jews use are invented and not descending or communicated through the holy spirit or in a holy scripture to A PROPHET. But rather invented through the Tetragramaton process by unknown source and peeps who found four letters in an old scripture YWHY (something like that) and they started to invent names such: YAHWEH, YAHWAH, YEHOWAH, YEHOVAH, YEHOSUA, JEHOVAH, JEHOWAH....etc. Normally, they do know that evoking false deities and names is a crime but they did invent names?!
5- They hate Islam because they know that THE NAME OF THE CREATOR IS ALLAH and was transmitted to A PROPHET through A HOLY BOOK QURAN transmitted by THE HOLY SPIRIT GABRIEL. Things and honours they didn't have cuz all they invented names and created rules.
6- That's why Islam came to ban all falsehood and re-establish the religion which is ISLAM.
@@AntiAtheismIsUnstoppable
How can I explain you that lying because of rage makes you minimal.
Muslims never believed in idols such as al-Lat or al-'Uzza or Manat. The prophet Muhammad peace be upon, when he made a small nation and army in Medina, sent troops to cities to destroy al-Lat idol. Later, when he conquered Mekkah back he and his apostles destoyed all idols (360 idols including al-'Uzza and Manat) and cleaned the holy place from them.
Raise your knowledge level before you speak.
This is a very informative channel AND i suggest that you add arabic subtitles to it. Then you will reach more arabic speaking muslims that don't speak english.
You have enough trouble convincing liberal Muslims who know English better than you.
Conservative Muslims reading Arabic subtitles could end up in hospitals because of laughing uncontrollably.
@@ab1858
It can't hurt. Some will laugh and some will go to investigate the truth and then finally leave the cult.
@@pedrofox2609 You mean Islam will continue to grow as more and more humans leave your cult.
Christianity is more than 600 years older than Islam and it is already being overtaken by Islam. Soon there will be no Christians in the cult of the Trinity. Watch out. Give way to the true monotheistic religion.
From the Philippines 🇵🇭
- 1st I thank both of you for the UNTIRING work to enlighten & educate the world...
I can't believe I am hearing this, ha ha ha😜
wow filipino din ako naako po salamat may mga filipino din palang nag cocomment
Hello my friends, as per Al Tabari, Mecca was near by a group of people called the Amalekites and the were located in Mount Seir (near by Petra). Here is the link below, and Al Tabari mentionned that Abraham was located in Sirya at that moment (regarding Ismael and Agar'story) you must read those pages, very interesting. (pdf search = p.85 and on printed paper is page 73). The book is : '' History of Al-Tabari volume 2, translated by William M. Brinner
Wow, OK. I will check it.
Appreciate the source. Thank you.
So appreciate this…you guys are awesome!
thought you were snoop dog bruh
MOHAMMAD FALSE PROPHET💯✅
I can show a lot of hadiths that someone took from the Bible including the parables of Jesus.
Show
True talk
Dr. J. Smith Salute to your ability, and knowledge and wisdom, what is the meaning of your silence so far? This truth is going to shake everything,,,,, Al fadi thank you very much for this arrangement👍
Shalom, Salam, Peace. Quran [Last Testament] O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, “Three”; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
@@omarlittle-hales8237 Interresting, now since the "figure of Muhammad has been invented much later, these people who also wrote the Koran must have had still some knowledge of the Jewish hopes *which centered around one Messiah* . This person can be found in the Jewish scriptures.
JewFaq.org says of the Messiah, which they spell as *_mashiach_* :
The mashiach will be a *great political leader descended from King David* (Jeremiah 23:5). The mashiach is often referred to as “mashiach ben David” (mashiach, son of David). He will be well-versed in Jewish law, and observant of its commandments (Isaiah 11:2-5). He will be a charismatic leader, inspiring others to follow his example. He will be a great military leader, who will win battles for Israel. He will be a great judge, who makes righteous decisions (Jeremiah 33:15).
[end quote]
One has to *ignore Koran 2:89* which speaks about the hopes of the Jewsh who lived near Yathrib and Khaybar that the God of the Old Testament would send them one Messiah.
Also I would like to know how long have the Arabs around Mecca worshiped Allah, so that they could accept suddenly one day one *prophet to speak for this Idol/Gawd* ? But hey, if there are a people who have a rich tradition in which God did send Prophets over time, why not trying to attach oneself to that tradition, claiming to be prophet in their line of Prophets? The hopes of the Jews could be misused by one impostor and false Messiah, misleading the Pagans who accepted this false Messiah.
@@isallah1kafir196 Shalom, Salam, Peace.
Praise be to Allah.
The Hebrew text referred to is Song of Solomon 5:16, which is as follows:
חִכּוֹ מַמְתַקִּים וְכֻלּוֹ מַחֲמַדִּים זֶה דוֹדִי וְזֶה רֵעִי בְּנוֹת יְרוּשָׁלִָם׃
The transliteration of this text is as follows:
Hik.ko ma m.taq.qim we.kul.low ma.ha.mad.dim zeh do.w.di we.zeh re.‘i be.no.wt ye.ru.sha.lim
[English transliteration based on the Interlineal Bible]
The English translation of this text is as follows:
“His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem”
[King James Version].
We have referred to a number of translations of the Old Testament, and we have not come across any translation which renders the word מַחֲמַדִּים (ma.ha.mad.dim) as Muhammad.
1.
The King James Version (first published in 1611 CE and still used today) renders it as follows:
“His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.”
2.
The Douay-Rheims Bible (a Roman Catholic translation of the Bible) renders it as follows:
“His throat most sweet, and he is all lovely: such is my beloved, and he is my friend, O ye daughters of Jerusalem.”
3.
The American Standard Version (completed in 1901) renders it as follows:
“His mouth is most sweet; Yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.”
4.
The New International Version (NIV - a modern translation first published in the 1970s) renders it as follows:
“His mouth is sweetness itself; he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, this is my friend, daughters of Jerusalem”
5.
The Jewish Publication Society (JPS) translation (1917 CE) renders it as follows:
“His mouth is most sweet; Yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.”
We also referred to some experts in the Hebrew language, who confirmed the soundness of these translations, and confirmed that the word mahammadim is not a proper noun or name; rather it signifies beauty and desire, and it is mentioned in many places in the Old Testament with such meanings.
Furthermore, the context here rules out any interpretation of the word as referring to Muhammad. The entire book of the Song of Solomon is a love poem between a man and a woman, with erotic phrases. The context is far removed from referring to the Prophet who would come at the end of time, namely Muhammad (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him).
As for the English translation of this word (mahammadim), they mentioned words such as loveliness, charm, desire and delight, which do not even come close to the meaning of names such as Ahmad or Muhammad.
See : goo.gl/c75ZzI
Nevertheless, the fact that there is the foretelling of Muhammad (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) in the earlier books is something that is proven and established, as Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Those who follow the Messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write (i.e. Muhammad (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him)) whom they find written with them in the Taurat (Torah) (Deut, xviii, 15) and the Injeel (Gospel) (John xiv, 16)”
[al-A ‘raaf 7:157].
Proving that does not require twisting the meaning of some words in a manner contrary to their meaning in Hebrew and contrary to the context in which they appear. The scholars have written books dealing with this topic, compiling the prophecies mentioned in the Old Testament and the New Testament, and even in the books of other religions, which you may see in the following books:
1. Al-Bashaarah bi Nabi al-Islam fi’t-Tawraat wa’l-Injeel by Dr Ahmad Hijaazi as-Saqa
2. Diraasaat fi’l-Yahoodiyyah wa’l-Maseehiyyah wa Adyaan al-Hind by Dr Muhammad Diya’ ar-Rahmaan al-A‘zami
And Allah knows best.
@@omarlittle-hales8237 Was Mohammed one *FALSE **_MESSIAH_** and false* Prophet?
The point I am making is that stoned-gawd Allaah's last prophet, claimed to be the last Jewish prophet who was to come. Yet the Jews did *not really wait* just for one religious leader, but for *one political and **_military leader_** who will come to the rescue of the Jews* , to help them fight the pagans, beat and kill them. When some Pagans from Yathrib (medina) came to Mecca, and *met with Allah's false Messiah, they thought that they had found the Jewish Messiah, before the Jews knew anything about him* and they knowing what the Jewish Messiah had in store for them, *decided to join him before the Jews could do* and so they informed their people after their return to Yathrib, Islam grew among the Pagan who *surrendered* to the Meccan idol Allaah.
All great Tafsir experts make this very clear:
www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=74&tSoraNo=2&tAyahNo=89&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2
www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=73&tSoraNo=2&tAyahNo=89&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2
www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=86&tSoraNo=2&tAyahNo=89&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2
As well as Ibn Kathir:
quranx.com/Tafsir/Kathir/2.89
*HTH*
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*Dr "Holes in the Narrative"* YQ:
🕳Q🕳R🕳A🕳N🕳 🤣 😁 😃 😁
" *The standard narrative has holes in it* ..."
This should be the _one significant phrase_ for which the Year 2020 shall be remembered.
ALLAH GIBRIL FAKE I D OF MOHAMMAD😉
🤣🤣🤣😭😭 subhaanallah. I should not laugh so hard. But thanks for all the good work you've done. Very enlightening I must admit. Good job 👌
they can always expose lies in Islam they always did a Good job 👍🏼
this is getting too crazy..but sometimes fact is stranger than fiction..
Could anything be stranger than the fiction of Islam? I suppose it's possible, lol!
God bless you'll brother's for giving us the history of how muslims were formed welcome Muslim brothers you are my family
Uuuhhhhh tututututu.... Thank you Jay & Al Fadi... piece by piece it is disclosed ☝✊🎖🥰💐
Al Fadi, don't be saying that Mohamed was a Christian, we don't want him either, thank you very much sir.
In Islam don't ask questions !
3:20 There is a problem here. He WOULD have been fighting Rome because no one at this time would have used the word Byzantine for the Roman Empire of that day, which indeed had contacts all over the Arab world, and were particularly strong in what is modern day Syria all the way to Egypt. Jay might wish to talk with Jay Dyer about the history of the region, as a lot of Evangelical folks tend to forget that Rome was dead by the 5th century in the Italian peninsula, but was thriving during the time of Islam's first incursions outside of Arabia.
@@dianetigert1310 you must think that you're the only one who knows what true christianity is... You're deluded and you have a false spirit of pride in you, as with all self interpreting "christians" out there who set up their own sects. Submit to the Church Fathers and discover true Christianity i.e the one Holy Catholic Church.
@@dianetigert1310 way to take a verse out of context. What does your revisionist protestant mind say it means? Who are "men" in that verse? Who gave you that power to interpret the scriptures?
@@dianetigert1310 do you talk and walk like Christ then🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@dianetigert1310 pride is hated by God...and you have no right to choose or point who a Christian is or isn't...🙏🙏🙏
It's just a term. Most people knew about Byzantine.
I LOVE YOU YESHUA AMEN
extremely amusing comedy show!!
It was comical when Christians read the Bible , but when they read Islamic literature they became ludicrous.
WHEN MUHAMMADANS READ THE HOLY BIBLE, IT WAS SATAN. NOTHING CHANGE WHEN MUHAMMADANS READ THE UNHOLY QURAN.
Religious traditions get established, clerics empower themselves as the interpreters of the holy writings, and the masses blindly follow.
@Richard Thornhill agree especially when Letters follow a name. Just look at what is happening globally with the Vaxx demic. The Crown Prince is really a piker with what he plans to do in comparison to the devastation to the modern Bernasian propaganda dispensed in hyper volumes in the coming months. Buckle up Buttercup the world is going to go upside down, inside out and around and through a very small knot hole. What we think we know on the other end will be soggy mushy rancid experimental (mental) left overs.
I'm shocked 🤯
Don't be shocked my sister
I saw a video of Dan Gibson, and it based on his studies Mohammad and his wife lived in Petra and he was a pagan before.
And that is true. Muhammad was pagan, not christian.
@Sergio Fernandez Christianity was brought to India around 52ce by one of the disciples of Jesus, Thomas, but he was speared by a hindu fundamentalist near modern day Chennai.
This makes so much sense.
@super spade Mohammad is fake and all those that believe him are idiots. Muslims don't even know which Quran is the true Quran. They had to get a scholar to choose and discarded the other four versions. Also, Muslims pray to the wrong place. It is obvious the earliest Muslims prayed towards Petra. Sounds like a lot of issue the Muslims need to work out. Btw, Islam is stolen from Judaism. The christians did the same. Unlike you I don't not worship a fake invisible man. I make rational decisions based on facts, not what some ancient book says. It's time for you to do your five daily prayers to the wrong place based upon a book that was full of errors and had to be corrected. No one asked your opinion so screw off.
@@gregcollins7602 what do you believe in greg. come to Christianity
@@ryu.2382 no thanks. I was born and raised a christian but the more I studied it the more problems I found with it. For instance, christians need to come to terms with the virgin birth and resurrection malarkey. Just like the Muslims need to come to terms about Mohammad and Petra. Neither of these two are willing to have a logical, rational discussion about these issues. Until then I will just continue to study history.
@@gregcollins7602 have you extensively researched the both religions with an open mind and no bias
@@gregcollins7602 open your eyes my friend Allah is not God do a little research
Whether Christian or Muslim... This person is human
I always wondered that I didn't yet find material about the question: By which ceremony was Muhammad married to Khaddija?
When you take into consideration, that this marriage was promoted by the cousin of her, who was a christian monk:
Had he allowed another ceremony as a christian one?
In case it is like this, did the two partners had to be christians to fulfill the rules of the church?
That's a huge point! never thought of it! Khadija's cousin Waraqah was Christian (not a monk, though), so, it's more than likely that her marriage to the future prophet was under some form of a Christian rite. The other big question would be, do 7th century Abyssinian-Ethiopian sources say anything about any "Muslims" exiled amongst them & of Mohammad's marriage-in-absentia to Habiba Ramla, the nuptials for which are said to have been officiated by the Abyssinian Negus himself.
that's a brilliant question ! well done !
He was not a christian monk. He was not christian. Stop spreading lies.
@@AntiAtheismIsUnstoppable muslim books specifically describe Waraqa ibn nawfal as a christian monk who coppied the scriptures for a living
@@_hunter_hunter1048 I do not give a shit what muslims describe anyone as. If you do not follow christianity you are not christian. This channel is a fraud.
His wife was Khadija, so was her cousin Waraqa ibn nawfil, an ebionite Christian, the man who said Muhammad was a prophet, Buhairah the Monk also said he was, it seemed Muhammad did fraternise with christian people and sects, so it stands to reason he was influenced by them, many of the Quran's teachings are heretical Christian teachings. I have written a book on this and my channel explains this in some of the videos.
Now you know Mohammed was a Christian who understood the truth, but had to suffer for being a prophet for Arabs, so Islam is a Christian sect.
Im pretty much Muhammad reincarnated, and I can tell you, I was Christian, as well as Buddhist, and Hindu! Just synchronize your religions and commit no sins! Easy peasy!
Amazing !! I'm Iranian myself and studying Iranian history. You might also wanna look into King Shapour the second and what he did to "Arabs"trying to attack Iran !
So Mohammed is not found yet ??????
@Jamal Khan because it is a nick name or title not one (then) used as a given name.
Would a Lakhmid Christian likely be a Nestorian? From Byzantine perspective that would be a heretic, which would explain the enmity between Byzantine Christianity and Ibn Qabisah and his good relations to the Sassanians.
Almost certainly yes (Church of the East).
Some points from me:
(a) The Byzantines insisted on having just one 'sect' of Christianity within their empire (5th century). They went all out to destroy anything related to Nestorius, starting about 430 AD. All the supporters of Nestorius escaped to the Persian Empire.
(b) Ghassān, the Nabatea/Petra-based Arab kingdom, was an ally of the Byzantines. So, the Ghassanids would have to be following the 'Byzantine Christian' sect. Otherwise, the Byzantines would have serious concern about the Ghassanids' allegiance.
(c) The 'Persian Christian' sect, by 550 AD, was virtually entirely the Church of the East (some of this formerly Nestorian). Persians would not have taken the Lakhmids as allies if they (or at least the Lakhmid ruler) followed the 'Byzantine Christian' sect, as such a situation would be a serious threat to the integrity of the Persian Empire.
(d) It is not known precisely what sect of Christianity was followed by the Lakhmids AFTER their break-up with the Persians. The bishops in the eastern region of the Arabian Peninsula (incl Bahrain/Qatar/Oman), so far as I understand, continued to be appointed from Persia (Church of the East) even in the 9th century.
Theres no proof that muslims conquered Spain and Andalusia didnt exist until 16th century. Most names of Spanish Khalifas are invented and theres no archeology of any muslim vs christians in Spain but theres archeology of Arians Nestorians vs Bizntine Christians and Goths... A recent DNA study of people of Andalusia shows theres no trace of Arabs in their blood in Spain.
May the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob bless and keep safe both of you✝️
@Forgiving Fragrance May the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacod and Moses keep both Jay & Al-Fadhi safe. Jesus Christ have mercy on all of us✝️🙏🏻
@Forgiving Fragrance what the same msg?
@Forgiving Fragrance
And yet Jesus said "Love your enemy", the message of Islam is "Kill anyone who is not a Muhammadan".
@Forgiving Fragrance
You are merely applying your taqiyya here...
@Forgiving Fragrance
Whether you like it or not does not matter --- Islam cannot survive without it.
Well muhammad learned about the One True God from Jesus Christ.
Jesus pbuh was a muslim prophet . We inherited his practise we muslim were all circumsized we take no swine neither alcohol. The most important for us to listen to Jesus is to keep ourselves away from commiting illegal adultery which all these restriction being taken into practise by the christian and catholic yet they claimed to be true deciples of Jesus what a humor🤣🤣🤣🤣 Remember Jay Smith or shall i remind you when you had a debate with syabir Ali you admitted that Paulus was the great enemy to Jesus but repented once he heard a voice from above and he was self appointed as a apostle and changed the commandmend of Jesus (old testiment is no longer valid just becouse he is promoting his new testiment). so now would you like to admit that you follow the enemy of Jesus with his new testiment rather then to become obidient servent to Jesus like we are the muslim 👍👍👍
@@majeizyusop4732 Jesus didn't teach to enslave, to murder, butcher, oppress, and discriminate Jews, Christians, and other non-mohammendan peoples, to ravish women, to take child brides, Jesus didn't teach that it is just to take the wife of one's adopted son. Jesus didn't teach that it is just to commit crimes as long as it is to non-muslims as being taught by many imams. A wise man either becomes an ex-muslim or stays away from islam, and muslims who are good, those who love their neighbors mohammedans or otherwise are never true muslims.
@@majeizyusop4732 is there anything such as "legal adultery?"
@@alexzander1839 yes there is, when a couple was pronouns man and wife then their sex is legal . However, its cannot be called legal adultery there is no such a word for the married couple to be called adulterer once they are married.
Use commonsense when ask a question. Its your people who normally committing adultery better admit that.
@DAZZA DAZZAL and just like any bigoted pig who used religion to conquer and exert superiority
God bless you Al Fadi and Jay Smith
Opened mind: Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.
Plot twist: mohammad was a christian. Jesus was a muslim
Jesus was Jewish rabbi teacher!
Happy watching in saudi🙏
This Episode of Al Fadi and Jay Smith should Apostate Prophet take a look at because he has talked a lot about Prophet Mohammed and Islam many Times and this video can inspirational to future videos of Apostate Prophet.
@Mikael Tordelov I agree. He has shared time with Dr. David Wood both using good logical interpretations regarding what Islam holds as being truth.
This was to fulfill what was spoken by the prophet yeshiyahu :
אהֵ֚ן עַבְדִּי֙ אֶתְמָךְ־בּ֔וֹ בְּחִירִ֖י רָֽצְתָ֣ה נַפְשִׁ֑י נָתַ֚תִּי רוּחִי֙ עָלָ֔יו מִשְׁפָּ֖ט לַגּוֹיִ֥ם יוֹצִֽיא:
"Hen El Ebdi Amed El Massich nafsi rasetan hattati rohi allaw yoswi misphat laq-Gow'im "
“Behold, my servant ahmed, whom I have chosen( messiah) , my beloved with whom my soul is well pleased.
I will put his Spirit upon him, and he will proclaim justice to the Gentiles( Ummi /Goy'im ) .
Muhammad and the name Qutham
There's a story saying that one of the son''s of 'abd al Muttalib who died while Amina was pregnant was called Qutham قُثَمُ and maybe he wanted to name his grand son this name but a revelation came to Amina and him telling them to name him Mohammad (see also Why did Amina never remarry?).
Note that orientalists like Nöldeke, Springer, Derenbourg and Caetani came with the theory that Muhammad's name was Qutham and he later changed it to Muhammad as the name Qutham was not quoted in the Torah and New Testament.
Note that this name القُثَمُ in Arabic has a good meaning (see for example in al-maany): like the generous, the assembler of good stature and manner.
Muhammad and ibnu abi Kabshah
Imam al-Qurtoby in his tafsir of verse 53:49 quotes that the first who worshiped sirius الشعرى was called abu Kabshah who was a ancestor of the Prophet from his mothers line.
أول من عبده أبو كبشة أحد أجداد النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم من قبل أمهاته
That's why the disbelievers used to call him ibn abi Kabshah (the son of abu Kabshah), because he rejected there believe and have choosen an other one like his abcestor. This is stated in the sahih narration where ibn Abbas is quoting abu Sufyan (before his conversion to Islam). Al-Qurtoby also quoted this expression of Quraish:
وقالوا : ما لقينا من ابن أبي كبشة
Note that Arabs when they want to humiliate somebody they ascribe this person to an unknown ancestor and an ancestor from the mothers line (Name of the father of the mothers mother and so on) is an unknown person. While if they want to praise a person they ascribe him to a known ancestor!
Note that the Prophet even had a servant called abu Kabshah who died during the Khilafha of 'omar ibn al-Khattab 13. a.H.
Conclusion
So none of these names are the real name of Muhammad, but names some of his enemies used either to avoid calling him by name or to humiliate him by using a nickname.
---- > Whoever you claim is the "real" Muhammad, he is not a prophet, not an Apostle of the Lord Jesus, and the Quran is not a true revelation.
😅 Jesus is Muslim, you’re so naive Gumtag
Pray JESUS, our great Redeemer shines His salvation light unto you
and save your soul Amen🙏✝️❤️Amin
@Felsimore Gumtang, _can there be Muslims or Islam before Quran?_
Islam is the true religion on the face of the earth
@@chelseapsalms1361 ---- > The Lord Jesus is not a Muslim. Islam denies the Father and the Son.
.... Jesus said ALL of the prophecies were about him, all of the kings and prophets were waiting for him, Moses wrote about him.. .. (Luke 4: 16-21 and Isaiah 42: 6-12, John 5: 39-40, Matthew 13: 16-17, Luke 24: 44-47)
---- > Muhammad (whoever he was) was not prophesied to be an Apostle. Muhammad was a man born from Adam; a sinner. The Quran is not a miracle. Sura 4: 8o, Sura 8: 20 and 8: 24 is idolatry.
@@muhalakibwana4026Islam is not a religion.Ex President Bush of USA said, _...it's an Ideology and a Way of Life._
can't wait for the next episode
Thank you, I very much like to know what sources you used for information about Ilyas....
In this series episode 9 is missing. Will you please upload or clarify regarding this?
Missed that myself, Good Catch.
Like the ad - this series of credible talks sweeps away layer after layer after layer ... of centuries of I slamic myths and lies ... until I slam in its present form is finally gone! Beautiful. Next episode please.
It's allways good to wait truth will comes out in God times.
Thank you very much for doing hard work.
Well done children of all mighty God.
Muhammad was a Christian. Jesus was a Jew. Moses was a Mormon. Joseph Smith was a Scientologist...
This is "mind-blowing" stuff. However, this thesis (though unproven) would explain why the early Quran relies upon and appears to be positive towards Christianity while much of the later material (after Islam is rejected) is so negative.
@lion rise That is easy. Muhammad was not a prophet, he was a scammer, a total idiot, but he did have one thing, he knew when he spoke to people who were even bigger idiots than himself, he knew how to lie without pausing so he sounded plausible, the perfect sign of a sociopath, and he knew how to slaughter anyone who did not agree with him with absolutely no mercy, so he got rid of opposition very quickly.
Read what muhammad promises people who fight for him, those stories are that of a kid with a mental illness, which is exactly what muhammad was, he had extremely low self esteem from sexual abuse by his uncle and because all his child hood people rejected him because he was an idiot and an *_evil_* idiot. And all of that came out as extreme hatred and anger.
There is in history no bigger scam than islam and no bigger scammer than muhammad.
Trinity is a real mind blowing😂😂😂before al fadi said there is no Mohammad exist, then now Mohammad is a christian, 😂😂😂 their contrdicting them self, 😂😂😂😂what's NEXT? HAHAHAHA
@@nafpalagawad1636 Maybe you should ask yourself why you worship muhammad, quran 4:8 0
@@nafpalagawad1636 he's just speculating.
The whole Quran reads to me like a Unitarian Christian book.
12:26 “Hagarism: The Making of the Islamic World” by Michael Cook and Patricia Crone is one of the greatest books on the early history of Islam.
Greatest books? Hahahaahhaah it's rubbish
like I said in their early discussion of the origination and background of Muhammad that since 70s I informed by our priest teacher in Catholic school history subject on religion mentioned Islam that our teacher narrated that Muhammad is a Christian student of the Monk. He discipled him in the two sanctuary of Sinai and Petra and Muhammad is one of the top student had leadership that later he dispute with the heiarchy of the christian monk regard his belief on theological and administrative matter resul into rebellion and built his own sect! According to our teacher a Catholic Seminarian that life record of Muhammad is keep in Vatican Library!!! Hope Smith and team who interest this Muhammad background they need to consider search to Catholic Library and authority in Vatican. No doubt we know the region of West to south and central Arabia (Mecca-Medina) is under the influence of the Byzantine and the Byzantine is under the Roman Catholic!!!
Well said Lito.I too did read from some early catholic sources that The Vatican has accounts of Muhammed's life history.Its getting interesting.
Catholic church and the Vatican are damage goods, no credibility.
Brother read about Muhammad’s father and his forefathers and the chain up to Ishmael. They were all believers of Abrahamic faith because Abraham was given a small scripture and the children of Ishmael were following that law. The Torah and Bible were descended on the children of Israel and the children of Ishmael were following the Abrahamic script until Muhammad was born in the tribe of Bani Hashim who weren’t pagans neither they were Christians. So thier is no way Muhammad was a Christian. And in that sense all Muslims are Jews, Christians, and Muslims at the same time. So yes we believe I. The infallibility and holiness of Jesus Christ and we believe that he has been given a true book and a great message from the same God who sent Torah and Quran. If you read all three books, a human being cannot compile a book like these, we believe in all holy books and don’t slander any Prophet. The way Christians behave in case of Muhammad is the same as Jews do not believe in Jesus. Anyway please read the right history because this channel seems to be hate inducing and that is not at all the way of Jesus Christ. May Jesus bless you with good knowledge and highest of wisdom.
@@smallogy if you have any sources that is really authentic share it
Add info, Mhmmd is not the first consider pagan Meccan native seek true religion of Abraham and define it "Muslim" (mean, one who surrender to true religion of true God than those in the shrine of Kaaba of over 360 idols), but there were before him like the person Warqa ben Naufal who played big role to declared Mhmmd was prophet after event in the cave of Mt. Hira. Sirat Rasul named some of them have same religious thirst seek true religion like of Ubaudullah b. Jash, Uthman b. Al-Huwayrith, Zaid b. Amar and even Khadija had Christian way of life to compare in our time like those secular or atheist western their background is Christian family the bring part of culture consider them nominal. Some of them embraced Christian like Mhmmd pray and fasting is not new to those pagan seek true religion and they were called "haniffiya" (ex. read Surah 3:67).
I don't see any source cited for the claim that Ilyas ibn Qabisah's nickname was Muhammad. I've checked Tabari (vol.5 translation) but don't see this mentioned there.
Is Ibn-Abi-Kabsha
Recently, you guys stated muhammad is a title, like "the chosen one". This perhaps affirms this?
Dr. Smith is prone to so many interruptions, asides, interjections, and spurious details that the main point gets smothered in its cradle. What's worse, he always flaps his r's when pronouncing foreign words, and resorts to irritating verbal mannerisms. Please have him calm down, order his thoughts, and clarify his exposition.
He cannot focus, I wonder if he suffers from ADHD. He flies from subject to subject with no logic
Though he may seem so, he got all the points and you cannot underestimate his wisdom and his research from the past available source confirmed his studies.
Maybe you should watch a different channel. He puts his life on the line exposing this Satanic cult, and you attack how he pronounces words? You come off extremely arrogant
It's because Jay Smith is more American now. This is how most Americans act. They are over excitable and don't talk eloquently.
Compare how this British author is, compared to the American who is interviewing him. czcams.com/video/qMD_PaWIG2s/video.html
He probably knows that he is constantly interrupting himself and not completing his sentences. Yes, it is annoying and I'm confident he has been told this over and over again.
What we all need is a coherent gathering of all the points that he has been making in this series, written preferable in semi-academic style, with references to all the source material included in the book. Trying to remember this from video snippets is impossible. Perhaps he could write it himself, but perhaps someone else already has. We will have to see what material Robert Spencer has included, and perhaps not included, in the second edition of his Did Mohammad exist? which is due out this year.
On a related topic, if the Dan Gibson material is to be part of the story, someone has to make a convincing rebuttal to David King who says of Gibson
"My present intention is simple: it is to warn the unsuspecting reader that the only other person ever to have written generally on the subject of mosque orientations (a)has no qualifications to correctly interpret the available data; (b)has no understanding of the fact that MODERN directions from one place to another cannot be used to investigate the reasons underlying the orientation of PRE-MODERN architecture; (c)seems oblivious to the fact that there is well-established discipline called archaeoastronomy and has no understanding of astronomical alignments; (d)has erred monumentally in his interpretation of mosques that were built on pre-existing religious architecture or to fit with pre-Islamic city plans; (e)has no understanding of how mosques were laid out over the centuries; (f)has no control over any of the numerous medieval Arabic sources - legal, astronomical, folk astronomical, and mathematical, geographical - relating to the determination of the qibla; and (g)prefers to refrain from citing the vast existing bibliography on the subject."
[ King: The Petra fallacy The Petra fallacy - Early mosques do face the Sacred Kaaba in Mecca but Dan Gibson doesn't know how / Comparing historical orientations with modern directions can lead to false results. Available from: www.researchgate.net/publication/330221815_King_The_Petra_fallacy_The_Petra_fallacy_-_Early_mosques_do_face_the_Sacred_Kaaba_in_Mecca_but_Dan_Gibson_doesn%27t_know_how_Comparing_historical_orientations_with_modern_directions_can_lead_to_false_re [accessed Jun 05 2021].
To make such a rebuttal will not be easy as it is clear from the full article that many rules of thumb were used to orientate a mosque, rather than basing its direction upon detailed measurements and calculations, aimed at orientating it with any precision towards a particular point on the Earth's surface.
Our noble Prophet Muhammad ibn Abdullah (s.a.w) is from the Seed of Ibrahim from Ishmael (a.s) and that cannot be drowned in schemed pseudo Christian history to remote.
Stop worshiping a dead man, you dead worshipers.
Truth is indeed bitter but can't b hidden
@@richardv9648 Mohammed is dead but Allah exist/alive never dies, and that's who we worship, Mohammed was only a messenger not a god
thank you so much for these videos.
From recent lexical analysis of the quranic text it appears that what is referred to as "muhammad" in the quran (which means "the praised one") is not a name but a title which refers to Jesus, as the prophet and messiah.
So early muslims in the quran (not yet called muslims but "mumineen" ie. " believers") were in fact anti-trinitarian christians who accepted Jesus as revered prophet and messiah but rejected his divine nature (this is why in the quran Jesus is always called "Issa ibn Meryam" ( عِيسَى إِبْنُ مَرْيَم ) ie. "Jesus son of Mary", but never "son of God")
God bless you for the good work.
Thank you.
Muhammad and his father Abdullah worshipped Al lah, the god of kabaa
Satan is the father of lies who lies in his native language and was a murderer from the beginning. (John 8:44)
Muhammad, the first Arab warner (quran 29:50)
God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM, this is my name forever, the name you shall call me from generation to generation" (Exodus 3:13-15)
Jesus answered, "Truly I tell you, before Abraham was I AM" (John 8:58)
Who said Muhammad is last prophet??anyone said about Muhammad and Allah??Quran copy and paste of history...
Muhammad, the first Arab "prophet".
@@samiaziz5 then how u know mosha,Ibrahim...what foolish r talking??
With all due respect, Allah is the LORD of ALL the world's
Quran 1ver 2
The Bible scriptures were abrogated
When the Quran was sent down
Quran 2 ver 106.
@@muhammadbey1351 Do you like watching short stories from the Bible? This is an academy award winning series called the Chosen it’s about how the gospels view Jesus from each perspective. I wish they could also add the Muslim perspective to it
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Do you have any recommendations for a story about Jesus from the Quran that I can watch?
The Gospel had already gone through most of the Arabian peninsula including Yemen by the 7th century - there are solid Arab Christians in Yemen to this day. I think that fact was just overlooked while laying emphasis in Ibn Qabisah ie Mohammed.
Narrated Ibn `Abbas: Abu Sufyan said, "Heraclius sent for me when I was in 'llya' (i.e. Jerusalem). Then he asked for the letter of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) and when he had finished its reading there was a great hue and cry around him and the voices grew louder and we were asked to quit the place. When we were turned out, I said to my companions, 'The cause of Ibn Abi Kabsha has become conspicuous as the King of Bani Al- Asfar is afraid of him.' "
Sahih al-Bukhari 2978
In this hadith, Bukhari identified Muhammad as Ibn Abi Kabsha (Iyas Qabisah) :
Sahih al-Bukhari 2940
Abu Sufyan added, "When Heraclius had finished his speech, there was a great hue and cry caused by the Byzantine Royalties surrounding him, and there was so much noise that I did not understand what they said. So, we were turned out of the court. When I went out with my companions and we were alone, I said to them, 'Verily, *Ibn Abi Kabsha's (i.e. the Prophet's)* affair has gained power. This is the King of Bani Al-Asfar fearing him."
sunnah.com/bukhari/56/153
@@borneandayak6725 Is Lyas or Ilyas also a reference to Jerusalem? What Ibn means?
smh, ibn abi kabsha was a nickname that polythiests used to use against the prophet Muhammad
There's a story saying that one of the son''s of 'abd al Muttalib who died while Amina was pregnant was called Qutham قُثَمُ and maybe he wanted to name his grand son this name but a revelation came to Amina and him telling them to name him Mohammad (see also Why did Amina never remarry?).
Note that orientalists like Nöldeke, Springer, Derenbourg and Caetani came with the theory that Muhammad's name was Qutham and he later changed it to Muhammad as the name Qutham was not quoted in the Torah and New Testament.
Note that this name القُثَمُ in Arabic has a good meaning (see for example in al-maany): like the generous, the assembler of good stature and manner.
Muhammad and ibnu abi Kabshah
Imam al-Qurtoby in his tafsir of verse 53:49 quotes that the first who worshiped sirius الشعرى was called abu Kabshah who was a ancestor of the Prophet from his mothers line.
أول من عبده أبو كبشة أحد أجداد النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم من قبل أمهاته
That's why the disbelievers used to call him ibn abi Kabshah (the son of abu Kabshah), because he rejected there believe and have choosen an other one like his ancestor. This is stated in the sahih narration where ibn Abbas is quoting abu Sufyan (before his conversion to Islam). Al-Qurtoby also quoted this expression of Quraish:
وقالوا : ما لقينا من ابن أبي كبشة (this is the hadith you're referring to but with 0 context)
Note that Arabs when they want to humiliate somebody they ascribe this person to an unknown ancestor and an ancestor from the mothers line (Name of the father of the mothers mother and so on) is an unknown person. While if they want to praise a person they ascribe him to a known ancestor!
Note that the Prophet even had a servant called abu Kabshah who died during the Khilafha of 'omar ibn al-Khattab 13. a.H.
Conclusion
So none of these names are the real name of Muhammad, but names some of his enemies used either to avoid calling him by name or to humiliate him by using a nickname.
Our prophet himself taught us his names in this sahih hadith. Al-Qadi 'iyad in his a-Shifa added 5 other names which are more or less attributes among them القُثَمُ.
For details about القُثَمُ see also this Fatwa and this Article on ابن أبي كبشة in Arabic.
source: islam.stackexchange.com/questions/34814/is-the-real-name-of-holy-prophet-muhammad-saw-quthem-is-abu-kabsha-another-na
@@_John_P ibnu or bin or ben or son of
@@hihi-qd8uo How do you feel about the deletion of all hasan an daif hadiths?
What a big bash to Islam..
MBS wanna discard hadith..
After sometimes. MBS say discard Quran too
----- > MBS is a deceiver. The murder of Jamal Kashoggi was sanctioned under Islam sharia. Kashoggi wanted reform but he wanted to remain a Muslim. His murder was an execution.
THESE Are The Officials Who Murdered Jamal Khashoggi czcams.com/video/jX3CApXdqmc/video.html
@@jannmutube fool he already said he going to ban some hadis..bcs Quran like full comedy...
@@sellboryfamily4713 ----> It's an attempt to coverup the truth. The Quran is not a true revelation but , according to Islamic tradition, it can't be "reformed"
@@jannmutube Muhammad was the biggest deceiver which you Muslims following.. MBS after all a man. Muhammad was a prophet.. He murderer of small child to thousands of innocents.. He had sex with 44 females.. He was an illiterate, he was a robber..
MBS got better quality than your prophet Muhammad..
MBS killed one man , Muhammad killed thousands.. Jews, Qureshi, and many other tribes.. You can't frame Muhammad innocent anymore..
@@passion4nation ---- > I don't "frame Muhammad innocent" Muhammad was not a prophet. The best thing he ever did was confess to being a false prophet. However, MBS wants to be the next Muhammad.
Awesome! So now we know who the real Mohammed was. One fictitious character redacted and superimposed over a real historical hero.
Heraclius was not a hero. But, according to the account of Heraclius, the victory of the Lord Jesus Christ is written in the stars. The "leader" of those who practice circumcision is Yahweh.
Sahih al-Bukhari 7, Book 1
...." Ibn An-Natur narrates that once while Heraclius was visiting ilya' (Jerusalem), he got up in the morning with a sad mood. Some of his priests asked him why he was in that mood? Heraclius was a foreteller and an astrologer. He replied, 'At night when I looked at the stars, I saw that the leader of those who practice circumcision had appeared (become the conqueror). Who are they who practice circumcision?' The people replied, 'Except the Jews nobody practices circumcision, so you should not be afraid of them (Jews). 'Just Issue orders to kill every Jew present in the country.' "
sunnah.com/bukhari/1/7
Sahih al-Bukhari 7, Book 1, English reference: Vol. 1, Book 1, Hadith 6
Generally, you did not reference any sources? Why?
Because he is lying?
@@AntiAtheismIsUnstoppable you praying to imaginary allah that he is....i feel u
Read Dan Gibson's works, they referenced him.
@@Joorawon.M.Yousuf so? much information comes from historians that gets peer reviewed.
@@Joorawon.M.Yousuf
So was Pliny. Historians are a great resource for factual information.
THE JESUS OF MUSLIMS BELIEFS IS NOT THE JESUS OF THE BIBLE.THE KORAN JESUS IS A MAN AND A PROPHET ONLY ,BUT OUR JESUS IS GOD THE SON AND THE SON OF MAN.JESUS WE BELIEVE IS THE SECOND PERSON OF THE GODHEAD TRINITY
Islam is an educational and historical disorder. God bless you both for telling the truth! Once a Muslim reads the Quran they come to Jesus Christ. Only Jesus Christ can grant salvation. Peace be upon Grinch!
@Sgt. Grinch and PBU Max that hard working K-9
maybe I should show you how to read your corrupted book first,
@@mardukh5136 i can tell you can not read Greek or Hebrew so what does that make you? Did not the messenger say something about falsehoods?
@@gilbertjones9157 I am just wondering if your human god speak Greek or Hebrew, besides Aramaic,
@@mardukh5136 You forgot to add Latin. Samarian, Phoenician Greek and Coptic.
I have already stated Polemics don't work here. That language canard is thread bare. Go get a new prepackaged talking point from your sheik, Imam or Mufti.
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God says in Quran "Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was true in Faith, and bowed his will to Allah's (Which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah"
This is so exciting it’s falling all into place now the king of Saudi must be panicking as this information comes out 👍👍
The more i watch your videos. The more its contradict each other. Im sorry, not buying any of this.
I guess, i keep my muslim faith
@ribanno kitano few example of contradiction in this video.
1. One video said Muhammad was Nabatean in West Arabian, this video said he was from East.
2. The arab looking guy in video said meccan surah gives positive atitude towards christianity, cause Muhammad himself was christian that time, but every muslim knows there is surah al ikhlas (check the translation, if you want to know what i mean)
3. He also said muhammad (in muslim belief) fight eastern rome and persian empire. Muslim and general historian never said that. Muslim conquest outside arabian was after muhammad death.
I guess if i keep digging, ill be finding more contradictions.
Also that arab looking guy said he was wahabbi. Well, i (and many muslim around the world) even dont listen to them as source of knowledge. Two outcome of extreme wahabi ideology
1. Become terrorist
2. Reject islam (apostasy)
@ribanno kitano @ribanno kitano
1. Speculations? So i watch this for nothing heh...
2. Tf is akhkas. Its al Ikhlash, third from the last. Its declare monotheism and refuse christian doctrin of trinity
3. Thats not how historian works. You dont have to believe, but scholar use everything, compare and study to compose one single narrative.
Your answer, shows you are not educated.
4. False. Im on counter terrorist task force in my country. And we use islamic source to de-radicalize inmates.
5. I learn from islam scholar, anti islam preacher, and anything in between. Nothing make me, want to leave it.
Quran itself command to think, never take the doctrin lightly.
6. Doubt it, but dont really care.
@@janokjaran so do you think the Islamic allah is the same as the God of Abraham?
@@MrDJosh bored.... 😜😜😜
Come on, make a new one...
@@janokjaran 😂 why mate?
I just asked a simple question to know your thoughts.
Effective explaination regarding Muhammad.
Everybody through out the whole world especially muslims, once they know the background or history oh Muhammad. They will left him (muhammad) as their islam leaders.
Before they said Mohammad our beloved prophet was not exist, the now they said a Christian? What a joke they found something from to nothing😂😂😂
we don t need liars to tell us about history, your god Jesus was born in our land, not in Canada or Germany and we don t need history lesson matter fact you should ask us about the history and say please because we are history itself starting for more than 7 thousand years ago when your ancestors painted their faces and drink blood.
Islam will live and grow stronger and stronger each and every day.
All because of the last chosen prophet Muhammed peace and blessings be upon him. A true leader. Alhamdulilah. So many people turning towards Islam. Scientists.. Priests.. Students.. Locals.. You name it. Quran has all the proof and miracles. God sent down the truth through Angel Jibreel. (Gabriel). Thank you. Allah choose who he wills.
@@luvSA511 everybody comments, Jesus is the last Prophet
After 600 yrs than muhammad come, he is false prophet.
Jesus said.
Mt 7 :15.
Mt 24 :11,23-24.
2Peter 2 : 1
1 John 4 :1
Revelation 16 :13.
@@genjor6630 You belief what you want Mr... As long as we know we recieved the final revelation the Holy Quran from Allah through Angel Jibreel (Gabriel) in Arabic to God's last chosen Prophet Muhammed peace and blessings be upon him.
The very same revelation that contains proof of history, science and miracles of previous Prophets and the future to the Day of Judgement.
Making scientist believe and converting to the religion of Islam. And I thank you. God bless you. It's never too late to study your Bible. Deutoronomy 18:18.
Read what Jesus has told his followers... 😁
Quran pre dates Ilyas, worships ar Rahman of Himyar. Bismillah found on coins from Khosrau and Yazdegerd III. Quran circulating around Sassinids prior to Ilyas.
@Peter Hwang we are finding, especially with the Sanna Manuscripts, that portions of the Quran were written down prior to the immergence of the religion of Islam, including parts lifted from Jewish and Nestorian sources that were in circulation from 200 to 400 years prior to 622 CE with many copies made by different sources effecting a lion's share of the current Quran.
All prophets are moslem. Noah pbuh, David pbuh, Abraham pbuh, Moses pbuh, Jesus pbuh and of course prophet Muhammad SAW, he perpected Islam. There is no word christian or catholic on all holy book, Torah ( Taurat), Zabur, Injil, all bibles.. father of prophet Muhammad is named Abdullah pbuh ( servant of Allah ), pure name of islam and his mother is Siti Aminah pbuh , real name of islam. Do not make upside- down.
I love the fact that you guys seek The Truth No matter the cost! I look forward seeing you both on this upcoming New Earth!
Prophet Muhammad ( peace be upon him ) Jesus like Jesus came with the same message " Hear oh Israel ( People ) our Lord is ONE GOD
Why do you want a dead man to have peace upon him? He is already lying dead in peace.
@@richardv9648 you can send your peace on a dead man what is wrong with that, don't you say peace on the soul of a relative who dies
@@vannymo2802 you guys say Sala allah alayhi wa salam , you say Allah prays and bring peace upon him , how can god pray for a dead man ?
@@whoisnext9837 salat mean contact here, we believe in life after death in islam you can send peace to dead people and do good deeds in their name too and when you visit their grave they can listen to you we had many accounts in islam for example a dead man contacted his friend through a dream so that he pay another man that owed him money and gave him the exact location of where he can find the money to pay him
@@vannymo2802 what does this have to do with Allah specifically for the name of Mohamed? I haven’t heard any Muslim say that phrase to normal people but for Mohamed :)
Semoga ada yg menterjemahkan ke dalam bahasa Indonesia.....🙏🙏🙏
Mohammad read the New Testament , he was a Christian but he didn’t listen to the Holy Spirit but he listened to the devil
Prise the Lord Jesus. AMEN
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😂😂😂 wow.. what about prophet Muhammad’s tomb in Medina, Hira & Tsur cave in Mecca, a lot of prophets’s families & his companions grave also Medina, Mecca, historical sites where important war recorded in history ie khandaq, badar, uhud
Muslims from the times of the prophet (his 1st & last hajj) till today perform islamic pilgrimage - hajj & umrah.. the sites is there.. the safa & marwah, the jamrah, the mina, the arafah.. its there in mecca area
There was nothing but sand in Mecca in those times...the cave was in petra
@@JamesJones-bb4bx 😜😆😆😆😆🤣
Mecca was not on trade route
@@JamesJones-bb4bx 🤷🏻♂️ i not there neither you
Its not a major route, clear that bcoz even the meccans go Damascus or other important cities to do trade
Its not important issue
I am familiar with Mel's work but never registered the Al Bukhari reference before - I checked the hadith and the context is clear and unambiguous, the hadith has the prophet muhammad being named as Ibn Abi Kabsha. This is startling, given that it was all happening at the exact same time in history. Once the series is done, you guys should arrange some debates - it would be great to see how this ideas hold up to scrutiny and resistance.
Yes.. I'd love to see a debate with some of the more popular Islamic scholars
On exposure to..
“critical historical” studies
If the pressure element is from aspects of “geopolitical” interests can be minimized to almost zero…
so in that context of "Byzantine/Roman" Empire
vs Islamic Caliphate:...
Christianity and Islam can be categorized into just 2 sects
A.jewish christian under the Apostle “James”...
(circumcision,kosher food
, concept of monotheism) …
who was condemned “heresy” by the Roman..
This is the place where Islam was "born" and grew…
vs
B. the “greek” christian group
under the apostle Paul...
This is the container where
Christianity was "born" and grew as we observe today...
focal critical point in concept formulation of Christology that exists in each sacred books...