Is this SILVER Moira doing TOO MUCH DPS? (Spectating Overwatch 2)

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Komentáře • 199

  • @mr.parker8014
    @mr.parker8014 Před 3 měsíci +179

    That poor rein knew early on he wasnt getting healed

    • @MM-ux7kp
      @MM-ux7kp Před 3 měsíci +2

      *HOG TIME*

    • @trasex8572
      @trasex8572 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Soon as he queued tank in silver

  • @Tweakey
    @Tweakey Před 3 měsíci +57

    People forget that moira's heal spray applies a heal over time. So just spraying them mid fight every couple of seconds to keep that heal going can be a huge difference than just dpsing non-stop and pumping all your heal juice into someone that's critical.

    • @curliousoakshield2889
      @curliousoakshield2889 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Yeah, people also forget that in order to actually win a game.. you need to ACTUALLY heal...

    • @tristanpierucci4314
      @tristanpierucci4314 Před měsícem +1

      I actually genuinely didn't know that it heals over time. Thanks for the advice

  • @ImpulsiveBat-zf4ed
    @ImpulsiveBat-zf4ed Před 3 měsíci +73

    That Reinheart panicking in the beginning lol

  • @jacobl3659
    @jacobl3659 Před 3 měsíci +47

    “Why do I have more damage than heals on support?” Because you’re doing more damage than you are healing? Idk seemed self explanatory to me but I could be missing something

    • @kazue1187
      @kazue1187 Před měsícem

      Loll, methinks you're right

  • @JonYaBoii
    @JonYaBoii Před 3 měsíci +69

    To me, this feels like one of those low-ranked players that has been told by higher ranked players/content creators what to do as support. There are definitely people saying that doing some dmg as support every now and then is good (to which I agree), but this guy took it way too literally. Like emongg said, there should be a balance between healing and dmg.
    Don't be afraid to throw healing orb at your allies, sometimes this will be just enough for them to heal back up while you focus down an enemy. If your allies are critical, healing orb + a few healing juice should be use to keep them healthy, especially the tank. Aim your dmg orb... there's a enemy behind cover/wall with low hp? take a split second to evaluate how your dmg orb could take down the enemy. This tip should also help with allies if they're far away

    • @mkultra0
      @mkultra0 Před 3 měsíci +4

      I was thinking the same thing. Almost felt like he just found Awkward's videos and thought "I found the key" lol

    • @walker1686
      @walker1686 Před 3 měsíci

      @@mkultra0ikr? It’s giving „im a support not a healer!!“

    • @gungrave10
      @gungrave10 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@mkultra0Probably only watch short

    • @MatchaJus
      @MatchaJus Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yeah I literally just watched an ML7 video where he had hella crazy dmg on Moira too. I mean the heals were there, but I needed the stats to prove that he was healing at all no hate to him 😂

    • @angelholt8426
      @angelholt8426 Před 3 měsíci

      but he is a support not a healer. that however is unrelated to what his problem is here. @@walker1686

  • @DarthSpock1
    @DarthSpock1 Před 3 měsíci +23

    With season 9, I personally prefer healing orbs more than ever. Each heal orb acts like a turbocharged Mercy healing ULT to all in range, and since her primary damage got bumped up to 65 DPS while damage orbs have stayed at 50, unless there is simple no healing to be done, or there is a good cluster/important low HP target to focus, I'm better off bouncing a heal orb back and forth in friendly territory while attacking personally. Added bonus is it's a good habit against most DVAs as they wont usually push forward just to eat the healing orb while they will ALWAYS take the opportunity to eat damage orbs.

  • @tristanbabineau1532
    @tristanbabineau1532 Před 3 měsíci +3

    This dude was lost in the sauce. My guy didnt realize half the time he was supporting the wind.

  • @psivampire13
    @psivampire13 Před 3 měsíci +20

    One thing I noticed when I play Moira, is whenever I send a healing orb at a teammate to heal them….they run away from it and out of LOS of it.

    • @50HamstersInATrenchcoat
      @50HamstersInATrenchcoat Před 3 měsíci +1

      TRUUUUEE, the only Moira orb players know how to avoid is their own Moira's healing orb 😔

    • @sethescope
      @sethescope Před 3 měsíci

      I think it depends. if it's during a fight, expecting people to chase the orb is a bit silly. it's a much better idea to improve your orb use and get better at bouncing it effectively, not expect people to know what you want them to do by reading your mind since that's impossible. but out of fights, I'll see people, especially tanks, chase it. it's very funny to watch lol not everyone of course but enough that it's definitely a trend

  • @ImpulsiveBat-zf4ed
    @ImpulsiveBat-zf4ed Před 3 měsíci +14

    Love how the heal when their team has full hp 😂

  • @moon-pp2uo
    @moon-pp2uo Před 3 měsíci +14

    an enemy orb sits there on the cart and never goes away at the end of the match lol

  • @AquaWizardd
    @AquaWizardd Před 3 měsíci +20

    As a Moira enjoyer myself, be a bit more patient with your Orbs so that you aim them to be the most effective as possible. Remember the geometry of the map and the angles that they will bounce

  • @iliya1933
    @iliya1933 Před 3 měsíci +5

    13:55 - Maybe for this player’s sake, this should be worded as “you can also throw shots in between your heals.”

  • @NightBlade117
    @NightBlade117 Před 3 měsíci +7

    Pro tip if you're ever playing a Lucio/Moira support line or any support line where your teammate is a Lucio for that matter, 9 times out of 10 YOU are your teams main line for heals. Therefore, HEAL MORE!

    • @NightBlade117
      @NightBlade117 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Just to clarify, I'm not saying heal bot the whole game, that's stupid. I'm simply saying that you need to recognize that Lucio's healing output is extremely minimal

  • @jakelassonde3762
    @jakelassonde3762 Před 3 měsíci +11

    FFS HEAL YOUR TANK!

  • @deadmemez1446
    @deadmemez1446 Před 3 měsíci +16

    4:56 bruhhhhh😂😂😂😂😂

    • @itshel2677
      @itshel2677 Před 3 měsíci +1

      for real tho

    • @summersys
      @summersys Před 3 měsíci +5

      You can hear the dial up noises in their brain lol

  • @tristanpierucci4314
    @tristanpierucci4314 Před měsícem

    As someone who mains Moira and is still learning competitive this is extremely helpful to me. Cuz I've noticed that my teammates keep saying I'm not DPS. And that's why I keep dying. So seeing a similar case like this should help me out. Also love your videos btw man. When we getting another spectating bingo??

  • @skittlemenow
    @skittlemenow Před 3 měsíci

    I always look at support when I'm playing it as working to make your team make big plays. So you got to pay more attention to what your team is doing and use the healing orbs more than the damage ones. I get tons of ptog as support because when my team makes big plays I get to be part of them instead of just trying to look super cool. Also damage orb doesn't do as much damage as healing orb heals on Moira. You get more ults and faster ones with more healing orbs at the right time.

  • @Legendalvin
    @Legendalvin Před 3 měsíci +11

    At low ranks the best to do as a support is to pocket your best player, if your best player is another support or yourself ? You are done , just ready for the lost and move on to the next match.

    • @rawkhawk414
      @rawkhawk414 Před 3 měsíci

      Liked and agreed. But even when it seems hopeless don't discount the impact of hard teaming/hard pocketing with the player on your team trying their hardest to win even if they're mechanically and spatially worse than you or your other support.
      My friend and I duo flexed in comp. Both got support New Junk City. The lobby was gold-plat. Our dps were struggling and our tank seemed discouraged. We were feeling discouraged too. We turned 0-2 into 3-2 by hard committing to everything our Orisa did no matter what. This won't always result in a win but this win was completely unachievable without believing it was possible. If we kept our duo comms in discord at "this is impossible for us to carry wahhh ah well gg go next" (which we did a lot of lol) without saying "they are trying some stuff how can we help?" we would have lost.
      I also bring this up because our next and last game of the night we were 1-1 on Nepal Village and it seemed like a loss. Enemy supports Weaver and Kiri had 2 deaths each and twice as much healing as I did. My friend was tanking and me and the other support both were more comfortable on flex so we were Lucio and Moira and took turns as Ana. Our other support as Lucio carried Sanctum and he was our best player by far. But in the last fight on Village I had to let that other support, our best player, die to make a play with my friend our tank. They were holding high ground and we couldn't recontest the point via the choke in main or the high ground pathing. We went high ground and charged into their team, killed their Kiri while trading our Ana (again our best player, most impact and stats to match) but in the process we also reversed the positioning of the team fight and took the point, and won the game. Our Ana spammed "thank you!!!" "!!!!!" after the win in team chat lol. As the biggest playmaker on the team I am sure they were proud to see the rest of the team make a play whether they died or not. Not important but the emphasis on "thank you!" was probably also a call back to our Reaper humbly telling everyone to thank Lucio/Ana for the awesome job they did on Sanctum after first round. Our Reaper was having very little impact but encouragement and attitude go such a long way in a team game.

    • @scumknight6074
      @scumknight6074 Před 3 měsíci

      If everyone is terrible (which they usually are), your only option is to enable everyone and *not* die regardless of heals or damage.

    • @pinetapple2961
      @pinetapple2961 Před 3 měsíci

      @@scumknight6074 is this a pick bap moment?

  • @Fishrah
    @Fishrah Před 3 měsíci

    Think about parallel walls. Find places were the orb will bounce back and forth and not really go anywhere (wall and wall, floor and ceiling) at the very least you influence an area in a controlled way and you don't have to be as predictive as long as the area denial is helpful.

  • @Waffl3B1T
    @Waffl3B1T Před 3 měsíci +13

    ALRIGHT SO!!

  • @GouShin1
    @GouShin1 Před 3 měsíci +2

    He watched awkward... DMG DMG DMG!

    • @jason23189
      @jason23189 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Yep. Awkward is the reason sooo many bronze to plat games are lost due to bad healing.

  • @djlemon40
    @djlemon40 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Aim…your…dmg…orb..

  • @GlocktopusG
    @GlocktopusG Před 3 měsíci +1

    "in the low ranks the supports are up the tanks ass" Flats

  • @brandoncole5533
    @brandoncole5533 Před 3 měsíci +10

    Jesus that poor Reinhardt 😭😭

    • @josewolf9884
      @josewolf9884 Před 3 měsíci +1

      he was memeing all the game, i feel no pity for him.

    • @mitsishere
      @mitsishere Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@josewolf9884 i dont think he started "memeing" till half way first point when he noticed his teammates were memeing already (still not an excuse unless they mentioned it multiple times in chat an no1 helped then yea they shouldnt be trolling the game cuz its silver and he doesnt know what hes supposed to do to expect his teammates to know what theyre supposed to do)

  • @zenzrng
    @zenzrng Před 3 měsíci +11

    Alright SO!

    • @FutureKindaBingus
      @FutureKindaBingus Před 3 měsíci +1

      Todays video we are watching a silver 3 Support on PC

  • @baggyobeast
    @baggyobeast Před 3 měsíci +20

    This person was carried to silver

  • @DragonMagiccircle
    @DragonMagiccircle Před 3 měsíci +11

    I am also a Silver Moira, but can happily say I do more healing and aim better orbs than this player.
    Which begs the question of what am I doing poorly instead. (Hint, I know it's positioning)

    • @SquishyMain
      @SquishyMain Před 3 měsíci

      Same im around silver bronze but with moira i do good healing.

    • @josewolf9884
      @josewolf9884 Před 3 měsíci

      this moira has great movement and survivability. Lacks a bit on the orb mechanics and ult timing, but I can see potential for climbing.

    • @GayPope
      @GayPope Před měsícem

      @@josewolf9884idk about great movement they tried to jump on high ground and missed like 10 times, higher elo games they’d be punished instantly lmao

  • @forgiv
    @forgiv Před 3 měsíci

    The other support got more healing in the first round than the rein did in the whole game.

  • @wookieninja8794
    @wookieninja8794 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Big streamer: You aren't a healer you are a support so don't be afraid to prioritize DPS over healing.
    Lower ranks: Nooo!!!!! It's bad enough don't say that!!!!
    Lower rank supports:
    This is why as a main tank I've always hated that saying and moira's specifically. I get the idea behind what's said but lower ranks already dps way too much and don't heal as is. After that started being said it got worse. Moira players are the worst about it as well.

  • @sethescope
    @sethescope Před 2 měsíci

    I dont know if theyll ever see this, but i think one of their shortcomings is they're trying to do too many techs which are unnecessary. focus on the basics. increase your uptime on all your heroes. be able to monitor the entire fight as mercy and keep track of everyone. work on bouncing the orbs more effectively so you get as much value as possible from each of them.
    the techs wont be necessary until much later, and if you focus on the techs right now instead of your fundamentals, you're never going to get to a rank where you can get value from techs.

  • @kako5616
    @kako5616 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Uh i have a quick question, i am a bronze illari main,
    I have pretty good skills but i am confused at positioning, as i either try going highground or staying behind or with my dps (depends if i placed my pilon or not) or at an angle
    I wanted to ask if that sounds right

    • @josewolf9884
      @josewolf9884 Před 3 měsíci

      It depends. 99% of the time you will want to take highground, but if your out of reach of your teammates and you can't give them a pylon that isn't going explode in seconds you have to adjust.
      I highly suggest watching Coach Spilo (he coaches emongg too) and see one of the Illiari VOD reviews.

    • @kako5616
      @kako5616 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@josewolf9884 thanks :D

  • @dmnddank1711
    @dmnddank1711 Před 3 měsíci +1

    ngl i think moira needs to be reworked to where she can’t dps unless she heals with her left click or e

  • @theregulararkandsonicfan5005
    @theregulararkandsonicfan5005 Před 3 měsíci +1

    How does she miss healing with kiriko💀

  • @Duprimarshall
    @Duprimarshall Před 3 měsíci +9

    Idk about silver, bro plays like he's in wood

  • @Antonio-ys5zd
    @Antonio-ys5zd Před 3 měsíci +1

    I didn't play OW1 but i don't think you could still damage an invisible sombra which is what moira kept trying to do

    • @Watermelon_Man
      @Watermelon_Man Před 3 měsíci +1

      I believe you can as long as you’re close enough for the grasp to latch onto them

    • @LevelZer00
      @LevelZer00 Před 3 měsíci

      you can yes, and that was what this moira wsaa trying to do, but we're spectating it so we can see the invisible sombra wasnt there, and emongg makes fun by saying dont damage a bush,

    • @Antonio-ys5zd
      @Antonio-ys5zd Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@LevelZer00 are you certain? I thought you have to be in the radius to detect her for that to work. The skmbra would have stayed out of her reach

    • @pngdotjpeg
      @pngdotjpeg Před 3 měsíci +3

      moira can't damage an invisible sombra unless she's been revealed / detected (except for coalescence but that's a bit different since it's her ult). her beam and orb will not latch on unless sombra is visible.

    • @Antonio-ys5zd
      @Antonio-ys5zd Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@pngdotjpeg knew it. Exactly what I thought. This Moira was just trying to grasp the air from her positions

  • @wherethetatosat
    @wherethetatosat Před 3 měsíci

    I haven't played Overwatch in years. Did they change how Moira's healing spray works? I see a lot of low level players holding it down for as long as possible rather than short rapid bursts to utilize the healing over time.

    • @UnofficialAstronaut-ul7zh
      @UnofficialAstronaut-ul7zh Před 3 měsíci +1

      Nope, still heals over time, but not everyone knows that. Or just holding it down feels more… secure.

  • @lf2334
    @lf2334 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I'm a mainly Moira 1 trick with some Ana and Bap thrown in in GM (I've played with and against Emongg a few times), and this video shows that you have to be able to aim with Moira. The amount of damage he could have done if he kept his reticle way closer to the target is crazy. There's a million things wrong here though. He should honestly just do the exact opposite of everything he does here. Doing damage is good though. I have more damage than healing roughly 70% of the time.
    Always do more damage. Heal your team only when they need healed. The rest of the time, do damage. Also, always use fade to get out of trouble. Only use it offensively on isolated targets that you can beat, and when your team is chasing down a straggler after a team fight. Use bouncing orbs (straight down or straight up) when inside buildings with a flat ceiling. You can beat a lot of heroes when inside of a room with them especially when you use heal orb. Be aware of your teammates damage taken. If you see a soldier helix rocket sail past you when you know your teammates are right next to you, do a quick turn and see if they need healed. Know that if you're in a team fight and you've been dealing damage for a few seconds that you need to turn and look at your teammates to see if they need healed. If not, do more damage. Being a GM player is more about your brain than it is your mechanics or the hero you're playing. If anyone thinks that being consistently a GM player playing only Moira is easy, try it. You'll learn that you're still in plat or diamond even though you're playing an "easy" hero.

  • @aluxma
    @aluxma Před 3 měsíci

    take a shot everytime they threw a damage orb instead of a healing orb

  • @legojay14
    @legojay14 Před 3 měsíci

    We so need a vampire character that can do the drain attack that moira has. So many people play her and don't heal entirely because they enjoy the drain. Build their kit around stealing abilities or something. Anything so moira can be used as a support more

    • @hails.bells99
      @hails.bells99 Před 3 měsíci

      Paladins has a character like this actually!

    • @ChayBenji
      @ChayBenji Před měsícem

      you're describing old symmetra, who was so universally hated because of the drain being brain off that it was reworked.
      They put it on Moira where the numbers can be toned down due to being a support and therefore not the primary focus for the character whilst still appealing to people without arms.

  • @paigematthews1328
    @paigematthews1328 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Genuine question here, would you be mad if the enemy doesn’t die to the Moira ult cause it is being used to heal everyone who is dying? Sometimes I ult for this reason, nobody really said anything about it but I just wonder haha
    Also if you don’t know (cause I only noticed this, this year) if you get hacked/virus you can fade once it’s available and it will cleanse you like when Kiriko uses swift step

    • @bluebirdhumming
      @bluebirdhumming Před 2 měsíci

      using coal to heal is a really good play at least imo. its not just a damage ult and sometimes just one coal can counter tons of other high dmg ults. its just situational like using kitsune to heal more instead of adding personal damage or bap window for similar reasons.

  • @Weightsss
    @Weightsss Před 3 měsíci +3

    I main Moira in SO many ways.
    Dps Moira is fun, but get the most out of your orbs!
    Each map is like a maze and you have to find those spots where you can throw your orb and it bounce off the walls in a position where it can be the most valuable.
    That’s for damage or heals.
    Also, Moira does the same amount of damage up close or as far.
    If you play distance with her, the more valuable your gameplay will be for you to see your team AND enemies.

  • @davidsalinas2918
    @davidsalinas2918 Před 3 měsíci

    @18:40 didn't the rien and doom cancel each other out or did rein get slept?

    • @Antonio-ys5zd
      @Antonio-ys5zd Před 3 měsíci

      I think it was a sleep

    • @pngdotjpeg
      @pngdotjpeg Před 3 měsíci

      it was a sleep. you could see the Z graphic above the reinhardt in the spectator overlay.

  • @godspeed1808
    @godspeed1808 Před 3 měsíci

    Hey Im a new player. I started playing Overwatch half way through the last season. I think Im doing pretty well just with previous fps experience. Ik what I do right but not everything I do wrong. If I send a game of me losing and a game of me winning would you be interested? I can play support and dps and Im learning mauga. Im either a moira or a pharrah/tracer main (depends on the day). Not much going around for new players since the game has been around for so long.

  • @nathanrossiter122
    @nathanrossiter122 Před 3 měsíci +36

    I ain’t gonna lie argue with me if you want but to me Moira is easily #1 support I’ll say it IMPOSSIBLE to die with her unless you get one tapped hindered or your on cooldown and over extend which 2 of those 3 you can prevent easily besides a stray hanzo shot or widow even then easy to counter but her dmg and healing is absurd I’ll usually do the most healing in the lobby almost every game win or lose and I’ll do more or as much damage as my dps/tank or most damage in the lobby and I truthfully don’t think I’ve had a bad game with her since I’ve started playing her on pc she’s just too easy too op her ult is amazing once you realize she out heals the damage and you can face fuck any support in the enemy team distract them and kill their supports with a damn near guarantee and let’s say you down throw a damage or and fade back to your or team ez like she’s just so good in my eyes or I’m just playing her really well but only support I’ll play her and Baptist’s are in the same boat except baptiste can’t really escape a dive

    • @itshel2677
      @itshel2677 Před 3 měsíci +21

      only started playing moira recently and honestly so much fun. everything feels so smooth. plus yeah insane survivability

    • @hnl6665
      @hnl6665 Před 3 měsíci +9

      Moira healing also accounts for her SELF healing so when you say you are healing a lot, a good chunk of it goes only to yourself. Also moira in the backline usually just gets melted if the enemy team looks back at you.

    • @lacai527
      @lacai527 Před 3 měsíci +13

      i bet you are like plat? going flank to kill support will get punished higher ranks, when you do your journey enemy team is rolling your team, and every support should have PING button to ping flankers, you to be effective on enemy support is not that you are good, its that enemy is bad, but other stuff you nailed.

    • @alexweil7296
      @alexweil7296 Před 3 měsíci +5

      ​@@lacai527 hes gotta be plat or lower

    • @darthmuffin03
      @darthmuffin03 Před 3 měsíci +1

      I've been struggling with keeping ppl up with her ult in season 9 tbh. One time I ulted to save my mauga twice in one game and it didn't work either time lol I just felt bad cause he was surrounded and my beam was on him it just legit wasn't enough even w a healing orb while he was being focused like that.

  • @papagojja3610
    @papagojja3610 Před 3 měsíci

    This hurts me physically to watch as a Moira main 😢

  • @1236alexa
    @1236alexa Před měsícem

    No you go with your rein😂

  • @curliousoakshield2889
    @curliousoakshield2889 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Gotta love your live chat crying about the rein throwing/griefing. When that moira LITERALLY refused to even try to heal. You can very clearly see it in the vod.

  • @BlizzardofOze
    @BlizzardofOze Před 3 měsíci +6

    I've found that you want to primarily be throwing healing orbs as Moira. If I want to go and put some pressure on a dps, I'll toss a healing orb at my team before I go in. Let that orb do the healing for me and if I can't win the engagement by the time it runs out of value, I retreat back to the backline and go back to healing. Always be looking to get those low hp confirms and don't be afraid to take some space. You are hard to hit on moira and have by far the best escape in the game.

  • @mitsishere
    @mitsishere Před 3 měsíci

    half way into the vid and i dont understand how bro was confused he had more dmg than heals
    like u need to heal to have heals input idk maybe thats just my moira

    • @mitsishere
      @mitsishere Před 3 měsíci

      tbf they did throw some random yellow balls every now and then so ig their teammates should play follow the ball instead

  • @GouShin1
    @GouShin1 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Ok, I play Moira. So what ya gotta do is this, damage at all times UNLESS your team is critical or low, so at 50% heal, 55% heal, at 60% sure heal but you can dmg with orbs. If your team is really low DO NOT throw a dmg orb and spray! Spray and heal orb in this situation! This is how we balance dmg/healing

    • @josephtrevino4304
      @josephtrevino4304 Před 3 měsíci

      I find that SOME situations work with dmg orb + heal. My team is taking a lot of dmg and the enemy team is grouped up in a “walled hallway” (think on the way to 2nd point blizzard world) I’ll throw a dmg orb to refill my heal spray and heal for longer

  • @JonezBBQ
    @JonezBBQ Před 3 měsíci +6

    A couple of my friends are low silver-gold and the games are exactly like this. I find it more impressive to be this bad, than to be top 500 Grandmaster. It's actually annoying how bad my one friend is, considering she has like 1,500 hours.

    • @TheBlueCrayon
      @TheBlueCrayon Před 3 měsíci +8

      This game has A LOT going on, so not everyone is going to connect all the dots and figure it out. It's ok to have fun playing ranked and being in bronze/silver, as long as you dont complain that you are hardstuck because of teammates lol.

    • @JonezBBQ
      @JonezBBQ Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@TheBlueCrayon yeah I get that, but with 1,500 hours you should be at least out of silver in my opinion lol. On top of that, she doesn’t have fun while playing 😂. Just heal bots on Lucio/Moira and wonders why she loses with 22,000 healing. I try to help her but she is not receptive to my advice 🤷

    • @Foldgish
      @Foldgish Před 3 měsíci

      @@JonezBBQI have a friend who is exactly like this lol. My friend rage quit after a bad day of overwatch uninstalled the game but is going to reinstall when venture comes out 😂

  • @Glingerboo
    @Glingerboo Před 3 měsíci

    Yay

  • @julielee3673
    @julielee3673 Před 3 měsíci +1

    how do i send my games so that he can spectate it?

  • @tristanbabineau1532
    @tristanbabineau1532 Před 3 měsíci

    I think you should always have more heals than damage as support. Know your priorities.

  • @djlemon40
    @djlemon40 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Bro is definitely not a support main. But I will say rein was not playing with the team well either half the game

    • @protx_
      @protx_ Před 3 měsíci

      I've noticed a rein will generally set pace. The team needs to adapt and follow for it to be effective.

    • @summersys
      @summersys Před 3 měsíci

      Nah they are. Just used to console where everyone plays exactly like them lol

    • @djlemon40
      @djlemon40 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@protx_your not wrong but there is a difference in taking space and pushing in too far. He was definitely pushing in to far. The rest of the team played relatively grouped up while he was always the taking space and out of position for either heal.

  • @odinzai4769
    @odinzai4769 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Moira silver here, this guy makes me question what im doing wrong... Like, im way better than this guy, i know that sounds super egotistical but i rlly am... Like im blown away by the fact hes not healing and making those moira jumps or getting better positions OR learning the best bounce spots in every fight. I played pool for a long time so maybe it comes a lil easier to me but damn when i throw my orb it does damage for soooo long cuz i got banking off and getting the enemy cornered when i throw it is so satisfying lmao but still... If this guy makes me feel super good, what on earth am i doing wrong?

    • @sethescope
      @sethescope Před 3 měsíci

      you identified a few things that thia person did incorrectly that you feel you do better, but you did not mention a single thing they did that you either don't do at all or need to improve on.
      it's very easy to fixate on other people's mistakes when doing so makes us feel superior. but use this as an opportunity to humble yourself. there are things this person is doing better than you. challenge yourself to find them.
      but honestly, what will be the most helpful for you is watching your own vods. there's only so much you can learn from watching someone else. if you're not even aware of the mistakes you're making, you're not going to improve, and the only way to truly see the mistakes you're making is to watch your own games.

  • @RefugeeKLicious
    @RefugeeKLicious Před 3 měsíci +1

    Chat kept mentioning controller on pc. Is this bad? Asking for a …friend.

    • @ciach0_
      @ciach0_ Před 3 měsíci +1

      it's not bad, but on pc you don't get aim assist when you connect a controller

  • @myron8676
    @myron8676 Před 3 měsíci +2

    One of the worst Moiras I’ve ever seen lmao

  • @raciawelli
    @raciawelli Před 2 měsíci

    1. Aim and movement is absolutely terrible in this case. If he play on controller, he should change it to mouse and keyboard on PC asap. If he use mouse, he definitely should reduce sensitivity by a lot.
    2. second most important problem is positioning. He is in the middle of the path or directly on the car most of the time. Stick to wall buddy! Try be more on the side of the team, that you can see enemy and your teammates at the same time, and take only this dmg intended for you, not some random shots.
    3. heal and dmg balance and target priority is very important.
    Shoot in support first and the dps second. Shoot tank only is there is nothing else or he is low - killable.
    Heal your low allians in the same way, Rain with 20% of HP can stand much longer then hanzo with 20% HP. Heal person who take dmg in the moment first, then the person who has his cover secured.
    And most important, if you want to have a lot of heal, don't waste your heal on the full HP targets! You in this game just spray heal on full hp team before the fight begin and have 0 resources when it is needed. And you play with Lucio, not the less. You should watch your team to have 80% of HP, healing to full is Lucio passive job. You can spend this whole time dealing dmg to enemy.

  • @josephtrevino4304
    @josephtrevino4304 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Ranked is truly broken when I’m getting 18k+ heals, 50 elims, 5 deaths, 21k dmg and still hard stuck silver alongside this Moira ToT

    • @sethescope
      @sethescope Před 3 měsíci +1

      I guarantee you that you're either vastly overinflating your actual contribution during an average game to make yourself feel better or you're just not playing enough games. climbing is a grind, and if you're not willing or able to put in the time, that's not the game's fault. that's on you.
      no one is hard stuck silver. you are making very easily identifiable, fundamental mistakes that are keeping you stuck. you just haven't put in the time and effort to understand your mistakes and work on improving them. climbing takes time, both in terms of improving (you don't magically fix your biggest mistakes overnight, it's a process) and in terms of literally just winning enough games to climb.

    • @overratedfool6900
      @overratedfool6900 Před 2 měsíci

      @@sethescope I'm watching this game, thinking how I wish my Moiras would play like this guy in the video. Sure, his orbs were horrible and his healing and awareness were poor, but his damage output was fantastic. I'll take this team mate every time thanks.
      I think anybody commenting on this video asking how this guy is silver, is just outing themselves as a healbot. Those nonsense stats this guy just listed don't change that lol.

  • @emmanuelmckinney90
    @emmanuelmckinney90 Před 3 měsíci

    They should play dps if they not gonna heal

  • @rvfeen
    @rvfeen Před 3 měsíci

    There’s nothing wrong with doing as much damage as possible on Moira because she has no utility or skill. This Moira threw way too many damage orbs, most of which were thrown without thought and never bounced. The majority of your damage should be from right clicking but this Moira just held right click throughout the entire game and never threw any healing orbs to supplement.

    • @itshel2677
      @itshel2677 Před 3 měsíci +3

      her survivability IS her utility. you can go for very aggresive heals where other supports would die and come out alive

  • @Shouk02
    @Shouk02 Před 3 měsíci

    if this is silver HOW IN THE F am I silver too

  • @Vice_Blast
    @Vice_Blast Před 3 měsíci +4

    This is literally how most moira players play 🤣🤣

    • @lohengrin5082
      @lohengrin5082 Před 3 měsíci

      Came here to say just that lmao

    • @Greazzy_G
      @Greazzy_G Před 3 měsíci

      I refuse to believe most Moira’s play like this when she is literally easiest character to play. (I play her a lot)

    • @jilesbrouwer6052
      @jilesbrouwer6052 Před 3 měsíci +4

      in low elo 100% true

    • @Mira-ml1gq
      @Mira-ml1gq Před 3 měsíci +1

      If that is the sort of Moira (or even any support/dps/tank) you get in your games, then i have some news for you...

  • @lindsaygoode9197
    @lindsaygoode9197 Před 3 měsíci

    Ok a funny thing someone told me is that I needed to have at minimum 4k damage with Moira. Which first off I did not play the character the whole game and like I focus on healing over damage because I’m a healer.

    • @ImpulsiveBat-zf4ed
      @ImpulsiveBat-zf4ed Před 3 měsíci +5

      You have to get into the mindset that you're a support and not a healer. You can actually make or break team fights by pumping even the slightest DMG into the enemy team.
      It can be daunting but when you're team is in a good position/has heals up try and deal some damage. You'll see how easier your team will win team fights when you contribute to the dmg

    • @itshel2677
      @itshel2677 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@ImpulsiveBat-zf4edthat! its called support for a reason. I mean imagine calling Zen a "healer"

    • @ImpulsiveBat-zf4ed
      @ImpulsiveBat-zf4ed Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@itshel2677 idk how you watch emongg and still have the mindset of "I'm simply going to heal and do nothing else" 😭

    • @echoheretic91
      @echoheretic91 Před 3 měsíci

      First off you are a support not a healer your job is to support the team that includes doing both dmg and heals. if the other team has two supports that have done 6k and 7k dmg and your team has two supports that have done 1.6k and 2k dmg that is 9k of unanswered dmg, that's another entire players worth of damage, you can't expect to win the game in that situation. but if you want to have no control over the outcome of the match, keep healbotting and hoping your team will be good enough to carry, but don't complain when you are hard stuck in bronze and silver.

  • @L0C0OO7
    @L0C0OO7 Před 3 měsíci

    First 2 mins he faded in to fight 2
    never fade in to fight
    always walk in and fade out just in case
    its perfectly fine to fade anywhere to heal anyone as long as you think they can survive with you

    • @Greazzy_G
      @Greazzy_G Před 3 měsíci +1

      It’s fine to fade into a fight (backline to get a pick) because the cooldown is so short.
      For example.
      Fade behind them but also use cover.
      They turn around so u relieve pressure.
      Use heal ball on yourself to stay alive.
      Fade out behind your team

    • @L0C0OO7
      @L0C0OO7 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@Greazzy_G your roll is support you cant support fading to the back line. Unless your team is fully healed up and you have an advantage. 4 v 5 or a positional advantage. So i agree with you slightly. Also kno your enemy 2 V 1 is never a good idea unless you know your enemy it was too early to know your enemy

    • @Greazzy_G
      @Greazzy_G Před 3 měsíci +1

      Ya no I definitely wouldn’t leave my team 1hp to go dive back line for a pick.
      But it’s definitely worth diving a low target to get a pick if your team is healthy. Turning the fight into a 5v4.
      And if a dps or support turns to look at the Moira in there back line they ain’t healing or doing dps to the rest of your team.

    • @L0C0OO7
      @L0C0OO7 Před 3 měsíci

      @@Greazzy_G yep i agree with you.

    • @Greazzy_G
      @Greazzy_G Před 3 měsíci +1

      You da man!

  • @Xayr
    @Xayr Před 3 měsíci

    This is the reason Moira gets dogged on. People saying “average moira gameplay” are stuck in silver and have never seen a good moira play. Please play quicker and stop throwing. Its your fault you lost.

  • @summersys
    @summersys Před 3 měsíci +3

    Yall getting so pressed in some of these comments lmao. This is what silver is actually like. People like this Moira are common af. I climbed from bottom 500 in OW1 up to Diamond 3 in OW2. But then I started only playing when I was very much non-sober so I dropped to low plat lmao. If you have someone like this Moira on ur team play around them. Look for health pack. Or stand in front of them when you need heals. But also def let them die. They will learn or drop.

  • @pedrogiraldo4367
    @pedrogiraldo4367 Před 3 měsíci +1

    dmg is way more important than heals, he should heal people so they dont die but he should not be healboting.

  • @Lil_Puppy
    @Lil_Puppy Před 3 měsíci

    Tanks are just a cosmetic feature of teams this season. Moira play is all about geometry and positioning. She is a hyper mobile character so play in the middle of your team or ignore your team completely, those are your two options. Don't throw orbs at people, throw them at terrain so it'll bounce around in groups of people.

  • @thehoodedgam3r
    @thehoodedgam3r Před 3 měsíci

    Hello

  • @kings5223
    @kings5223 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Dude was carried to silver

  • @jkvosb
    @jkvosb Před 3 měsíci

    bro is dps moira and asks why damage is higher than healing
    I mean mate. Go watch Arx_UK unranked to GM series. At least the 1st episode, you learn soooooo much.

  • @nasje8523
    @nasje8523 Před 3 měsíci

    i dont get how im bronze and yet i know for a fact that i play better than this T.T i win so many games and do great healing and dps and yet i simply cant rank up

    • @summersys
      @summersys Před 3 měsíci

      Key to climbing from bronze is to play around your teammates not expect them to actually support you. You gotta babysit them.

  • @jilesbrouwer6052
    @jilesbrouwer6052 Před 3 měsíci

    cooldown spammer

  • @kozpain1567
    @kozpain1567 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Early

  • @icwtcx
    @icwtcx Před 3 měsíci

    I am also a Silver healer. Can you please review my play and suggest some feedback? I feel I will be stuck in silver forever :( PZMRPX

    • @sethescope
      @sethescope Před 3 měsíci

      the only way to have a chance that your game will be reviewed is to follow the rules. the main rule is submitting codes via discord and following the rules there.

  • @user-bz2kq8pw3x
    @user-bz2kq8pw3x Před 3 měsíci

    this person looks LOST like they seem like a new player not someone who played overwatch one if they stop being so random and watch whats happening and not look like a lost kid they can rank up fast

  • @cdolan12345
    @cdolan12345 Před 3 měsíci

    the video's 23 and a half minutes long. we'd still watch it if it was 24 minutes long because you didn't cut out 2 seconds at a time and make us feel nauseous at the jerk in footage

    • @sethescope
      @sethescope Před 3 měsíci

      it's important to speak for yourself. just because you might be very sensitive to certain edits doesn't mean most people are or that it's a significant enough issue to require a change. it sucks when it happens, I've had various videos contribute to migraines, but I also know that's a me issue because my brain does things in a very special way sometimes lol, not a broad accessibility issue.

  • @BaptistaMartins1985
    @BaptistaMartins1985 Před 3 měsíci

    Welcome to silver....this is a silver game ..and Im tired! Blind dps, dumb tanks...you talk about what you learn on CZcams videos.... your Toxic or a try hard....its just a game.....ffs, if its just a game go Quick play and stop screwing who wants to compete!

  • @cooller8888
    @cooller8888 Před 3 měsíci +1

    they need to add a button for reporting dps healers. I don't like them, nobody likes them if they don't heal they are doing damage everyone is struggling except them. Something should force people to focus on healing and if not this they have to nerf healers damage output

    • @echoheretic91
      @echoheretic91 Před 3 měsíci +2

      so you want supports to be healers? and healbot you the whole time? there is some onus on you to take care of yourself, it isn't the supports job to babysit you. when I play DPS I never expect my supports to babysit me, good positioning can do wonders to make up for a lack of heals. also turning supports in to healers and expecting them to just healbot is insane why would anyone want to play a role where they just have to hope their team can carry them. also I 100 percent like "dps healers" on my team if the other team has two support with 6k and 7k dmg and my team has two supports with 1.6k and 2k dmg, that is 9k unanswered damage, that's another entire players worth of damage. I'm not saying entirely sacrifice healing for damage, but YOU HAVE TO be doing damage. people go insane if a support does any dmg at all, I played a Moira game recently and had 16k dmg and 14k heals (we won) and everyone flamed me for being 'another dps moira', I also went 54/16/4, like bro I had the most heals in the lobby and the second my DPS I simply couldn't have provided you more value.

    • @cooller8888
      @cooller8888 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@echoheretic91bro, you take too long to say "I disagree, I main healers". Generalize a bit or we're done here. However, to answer your first question at least, YES they are HEALERS and they should focus mainly on just that. So rather force them to do that by punishment for not doing it or reduce damage to make dealing damage as a healer less fun, because like this they do very often more DPS than a DPS heroes and ignore low-health teammates whatsoever.

    • @karenmanagerwanter1744
      @karenmanagerwanter1744 Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@cooller8888if you actually want to make it so that support players get reported for playing the game then no one will queue support. simple as

    • @brandoncole5533
      @brandoncole5533 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Some supports are clearly made in mind for dealing damage or weakening heroes
      (zenyatta comes to mind)
      If his team is playing well He's gonna have more damage than he will healing given his healing output
      Some characters are meant to do BOTH
      If a DPS is genuinely lacking after you healbot and help them (regardless of if you think you are doing right or not) then someone needs to pick up the slack and that often is a high damage support

    • @cooller8888
      @cooller8888 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@karenmanagerwanter1744yes. That'S what I want exactly, that's why I say report for supports that are not supporting. Make sense to you?

  • @autisticreign169
    @autisticreign169 Před 3 měsíci

    Bruh, unsubscribing to this fake clickbait content

  • @adblader1514
    @adblader1514 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Ur healer not dps

  • @TheGreatPewpyOne
    @TheGreatPewpyOne Před 3 měsíci +5

    Wow their orbs were terrible and they contantly faded INTO the enemy team plus their aim is more jerky than a console player..lmao dude deserves silver

    • @BlizzardofOze
      @BlizzardofOze Před 3 měsíci

      Yeah, they need to work on getting their breathing and reactions under control, seemed like they were prone to moments of panic. Save fades for escapes and remember to look for healing orb opportunities. Damage orbs something I find myself using in spur of the moment circumstances, like a low health squishy who just used their mobility right in front of me. If an opportunity doesn't present itself, that orb is more than likely going towards healing unless we're still in the poke phase and I'm just tossing damage down mid trying to get a little extra ult charge.