in fact, Shannon Hoon (lead singer of Blind Melon) participated in the recording of Don't Cry. He is the second voice you can hear. He even appears in the music video, just like the green Axl zombie you talked about.
Guns n Roses sound like a band from the 70s on steroids.... because the members all have different music backgrounds, Duff comes from the punk rock scene, Axl likes Elton John and Queen and Slash loves blues and guitar players from the 70s like Joe Perry and Jimmy Page, that's why their sound is so unique. Most hair metal bands were trying to copy Van Halen that's why they all sound the same.
Been a minute since I listened to this album. You can tell Duff probably had a lot of influence on the first track. "Right Next Door To Hell" sounds like it could be a Misfits song if it was stripped down and simplified some more.
They're not a hair band. They get lumped into that because they played the Sunset Strip during the period but they were a big f*** you to hair metal. Hair metal was the guitar player being an Eddie Van Halen clone and the lead singer trying to do a David Lee Roth impression. Read Slash's or Duff Mckagan's books. Trust me...they're not hair metal.
Hair bands came up at the same time and in the same scene. But GN'R has way too many influences from different genres reflected in their music to be slammed as just another wannabe Van Halen.
If you want more experimentation from Axl, there's always Chinese Democracy. There might be a bit too much experimentation for first few dozen listens, but there are some super ambitious tracks there. Some of the best stuff Axl has written imo.
It's weird that people classified them as hairband. I have never considered them hairband, even the first time I listened to them. The hair-est they had ever been was the video to "Welcome to the Jungle".
the reasons why some classify them as such are just because of superficiality and has nothing to do with their actual music. Its people who have not truly heard them jugding them as such since they are a 80s band from LA with a frontman wich in the early days did have the big hair etc. And also many people dont really understand the difference in genres and think all rock bands with a classic frontman from the 80s in general must be a hair/glam band since that was the big rock thing the ignorant outsider assosiates with that decade. I have heard the same kind of people reffering to Iron Maiden as a hair/glam band to LOL 🤣 Its the same kind of people who think all bands with a hard sound and electric guitar of the 90s are grungde 😅
Most 80's metal is like the most fun party ever. Most 90's rock gives you the vibe of what the hangiver from that party might feel like. Guns N Roses and Skid Row are two bands that are the in between of that where youre hungover but still partying or something
Poor Izzy Stradlin doesn't get the praise he deserves. Well he did back in the day in the guitar mags but now apparently he doesn't exist. He played rhythm guitar so well offering a seamless bridge between drums and Slash's leads.
Don’t Cry was written before they released their first album, appetite for destruction. They intentionally kept the song off the album in case it tanked they’d still have a commercially viable ballad to release on their sophomore album. Blind Melon used to cover don’t cry before it’s official release, as it had already become a locally (LA) popular song
Some of these remind you of Blind Mellon because Shannon Hoon sings backup vocals on some of the songs and AXL was a big fan of the band. If you watch the don't cry video you can see Hoon singing with them on the roof top parts.
Don't even dare putting Guns N Roses in the same shelf as bands such as Poison or Winger. That's the first thing. Second thing, it's not because the band wears leather jackets and stuff like, that it means it's a glam hair metal band. Judas Priest and Iron Maiden, for example, did that, and they were heavy metal bands.
Yes. The song names were intentional and not coincidental - The Garden, The Garden of Eden, Don't Damn Me and Bad Apples - get it? And that piano style you're referring to is honky tonk piano. GNR have all kinds of blues music in their roots. Also shout out to Alice Cooper for the guest vocals on The Garden.
OH! I almost forgot. Slash is NOT the only guitarist on the first 4 GNR albums. Izzy Stradlin is the rhythm guitarist (and the unsung hero / MVP of the band). UYI EYE LOL We need UYI 2 next
"Dust N Bones" is a masterpiece. I didn't like it as much as a bratty teenager when the album first came out but over the years I've realized it's maybe the best song they ever did. "14 Years" has the same vibe.
GNR is my favorite band since 92. "Use your Illusion II" and "Appetite for Destruction" are great albuns. Nice channel dude. Looking forward for your success.
You’re thinking of the Don’t Cry Video which shows a grave marker with Axl’s name on it I believe. I’ve been watching the video of November Rain since I was a teenager in the early 90’s when it was released. It never showed a scene with a zombie Axl at the end.
Old Slash was very very melodic and the best part is that what he did would fit perfectly into the feeling of the song musicly and blended with the feeling of the lyrics. You can feel anger, love, saddness, etc.. on his guitar parts when the song also talks about that. It's amazing. Same with Axl's vocals, his great range and his feeling is perfect.
Since you had asked about Axl's vocals. Axl is a natural baritone, so his lower register is indeed deep. He is famous for his high pitch screeches, and for his rasp, but his lower register is just as awesome as his other vocals :)
I don't see that anyone else mentioned this, but the whole band, aside from Axl, had to record their stuff in one take. No plug in a note here and there if they screwed up. They had to start over from the beginning. Their logic was, if they can't do it in a comfy studio, how the hell would they pull it off live? Matt Sorum, the drummer on this record, found that out the hard way when he started recording this album. They may have had their demons, but they were pros and took their craft very seriously.
Guns and roses are in a category in the genre of their own. Go listen to the most important album ever recorded, appetite for destruction, and then will then we can negotiate
I enjoyed your rants on this video, i mean... can't force ppl to like what i love ( GNR) but i enjoy when ppl give the chance to hear it and think about it.
The reasons why some classify them as such are just because of superficiality and has nothing to do with their actual music. Its people who have not truly heard them jugding them as such since they are a 80s band from LA with a frontman wich in the early days did have the big hair etc. And also many people dont really understand the difference in genres and think all rock bands with a classic frontman from the 80s in general must be a hair/glam band since that was the big rock thing the ignorant outsider assosiates with that decade. I have heard the same kind of people reffering to Iron Maiden as a hair/glam band to LOL 🤣 Its the same kind of people who think all bands with a hard sound and electric guitar of the 90s are grungde 😅
Yep, they have a rhythm guitarist. Izzy Stradlin in the studio versions of the Illusion albums and Gilby Clark when they played live after Izzy left. Essentially all their songs on this album have rhythm guitar backing Slash.
Whitesnake, not a hair band. Only if you know their 1987 hits do you think they are a hair band. They are an offshoot of Deep Purple that started in the late 70's but adopted the "glam" image and more pop sound in 1987 to get MTV airplay. Hair band is a dumb term anyway, the look or image does not define the music. Are they still a "hair band" if they cut their hair but still play the same music, as many did? Are bands that had big hair but play other genres like country or R&B also "hair bands"? And this music has outlasted all the fads that came and went since. I'm not looking for the "true answer" from this lol, just morbidly curious what a millennial who wasn't around and knows nothing about this music has to say.
GNR Was The Biggest Rock Band All The Time, In Late 80'S, GNR Won The MTV Video Music Award (VMA), Since 1989,1990,1992,1993. Beating U2 Albums, Metallica Albums, And Nirvana Albums in The MTV Music Video Award. Then GNR Vacuum in The Middle Of 1993, Then Came The Famous Alternative Bands, Such As: Nirvana, Pearl jam, And SmashingPumpkins. Nirvana is Famous For Entering The Same Music Recording Studio As GNR, Namely Universal Studio Music, Through The Album Nevermind. Even though Previously Nirvana Was Not Famous at The Time, When They Were Still in Their Indipop Music Studio. The Famous Alternative Music Band From 1993-1995. Then GNR Held A Reunion At Troubadour in L.A. And The Coachella Music Festival in 2006. Many Hollywood Artists Came, Watched The GNR Reunion, Because Everyone Missed The Band GNR Rock Music, Because The Music GNR Was Very Nice To Hear. I Loved The Band GNR. From Solihin in Central Jakarta. Indonesia. 💖👫💖👫👌👍👏👏.
@@SBM-wl6mn ye, " use your illusion 1 and 2 " are good, but in my vision, "appetite for destruction" is so more better, don't have any bad song, different from " use you illusion 1 and 2 ".
If you want to try & listen to GnR, it is best to start from the beginning. It does not matter, only if you are already a fan. Since you are not a fan, I would suggest starting with Appetite for Destruction. It is GnR's first album and also their best (I love all GnR's albums, but I have been a fan for many years).
You know Axl Rose and Shannon Hoon was best friends and he's in the video for don't cry and he sings on it appetite for destruction and use your illusion 2 you gotta listen too
Hair bands didn't tour with Metallica, hair bands were not known and labeled as a dangerous show. Hair bands didn't get kicked out of venues to never play again.
@@alicja7282 however, another point motley Crue didn't start riots in the audience and walk off stage and not finish their set tearing apart a brand new arena AKA St. Louis guns n' roses 93 I believe it was 93. They did that
Amazing man great video the green Axl was in Dont cry if im not mistaken also u analysized the songs great i used to think rock was all screaming to until i started out watching GNR and other bands ps i liked ur cute dog.❤😊
@@roseclarity1493 this is the 2nd album so right after the drama 😁 Gilbys first studio album as well as Matt the drummers 1st,although weirdly izzy wrote quite a lot of the album as well as quite a lot of use your illusion 2 😁
You need to listen to use your illusion 2
Up
use your illustion 3 too
Much better album
@@Goodrng-m5u Use Your Illusion 4 is SO freaking underrated bro
@@BKAngmaris there Use your illusion 4?
in fact, Shannon Hoon (lead singer of Blind Melon) participated in the recording of Don't Cry. He is the second voice you can hear.
He even appears in the music video, just like the green Axl zombie you talked about.
Coma is the best song ever.
Guns n Roses sound like a band from the 70s on steroids.... because the members all have different music backgrounds, Duff comes from the punk rock scene, Axl likes Elton John and Queen and Slash loves blues and guitar players from the 70s like Joe Perry and Jimmy Page, that's why their sound is so unique. Most hair metal bands were trying to copy Van Halen that's why they all sound the same.
Been a minute since I listened to this album. You can tell Duff probably had a lot of influence on the first track. "Right Next Door To Hell" sounds like it could be a Misfits song if it was stripped down and simplified some more.
They're not a hair band. They get lumped into that because they played the Sunset Strip during the period but they were a big f*** you to hair metal. Hair metal was the guitar player being an Eddie Van Halen clone and the lead singer trying to do a David Lee Roth impression. Read Slash's or Duff Mckagan's books. Trust me...they're not hair metal.
Duff came up in the Seattle punk scene as a teenager. That's where the grunge vibes he notices come from.
Gnr were the antithesis of hair metal
Coma! An eleven minute song with no chorus!!!
Listen to Appetite for Destruction
Hair bands came up at the same time and in the same scene. But GN'R has way too many influences from different genres reflected in their music to be slammed as just another wannabe Van Halen.
Coma is my favorite GnR track.
If you want more experimentation from Axl, there's always Chinese Democracy. There might be a bit too much experimentation for first few dozen listens, but there are some super ambitious tracks there. Some of the best stuff Axl has written imo.
It's weird that people classified them as hairband. I have never considered them hairband, even the first time I listened to them. The hair-est they had ever been was the video to "Welcome to the Jungle".
the reasons why some classify them as such are just because of superficiality and has nothing to do with their actual music. Its people who have not truly heard them jugding them as such since they are a 80s band from LA with a frontman wich in the early days did have the big hair etc. And also many people dont really understand the difference in genres and think all rock bands with a classic frontman from the 80s in general must be a hair/glam band since that was the big rock thing the ignorant outsider assosiates with that decade. I have heard the same kind of people reffering to Iron Maiden as a hair/glam band to LOL 🤣 Its the same kind of people who think all bands with a hard sound and electric guitar of the 90s are grungde 😅
@@crimsondeath7468 Iron Maiden as a hairband...that's too funny. 😂😂😂.
@@jetsunthinley936 🤣 i know
You also have to do use your illusions 2 it has civil war , also como ,
No Guns N' Roses doesn't suck at all.
Most 80's metal is like the most fun party ever. Most 90's rock gives you the vibe of what the hangiver from that party might feel like. Guns N Roses and Skid Row are two bands that are the in between of that where youre hungover but still partying or something
Talking about Blind Mellon, Shannon does a lot of backing tracks in this album, you can clearly hear him in Don't Cry.
perfect crime, dont damn me and coma aint no hair band shite
Use your illusion 2 next please.
Appetite for destruction is the perfect album
The versatility of Axls voice and the bands arrangements is what separated them from everyone
There is more experimentation, it was a double album for a reason. This is only half of it.
Poor Izzy Stradlin doesn't get the praise he deserves. Well he did back in the day in the guitar mags but now apparently he doesn't exist. He played rhythm guitar so well offering a seamless bridge between drums and Slash's leads.
amen
True talk here
U should do UYI part 2…
And also watch dont cry video if u like blind melon! Shanoon Hoon recorded the voice on it and the video clip as well
Don’t Cry was written before they released their first album, appetite for destruction.
They intentionally kept the song off the album in case it tanked they’d still have a commercially viable ballad to release on their sophomore album.
Blind Melon used to cover don’t cry before it’s official release, as it had already become a locally (LA) popular song
Guns are NOT hair metal.
GNR are a weird fusion of roots rock and punk that happened to come up in a hair metal scene.
@@cletusinterruptus3963Not to mention western folk and symphonic pop. Some bits of alt rock in here too.
@@cletusinterruptus3963yeahh and that called Sleaze and was comes from Hanoi Rocks and New York Dolls
HAHAHAHABAB😂😂😂
Appetite for destruction is the best album from them
When u listen wit ear buds. Rhythm Guitarist Izzy is on the left side of the bud and slash is on the right. You’ll hear the different 🙏
Some of these remind you of Blind Mellon because Shannon Hoon sings backup vocals on some of the songs and AXL was a big fan of the band. If you watch the don't cry video you can see Hoon singing with them on the roof top parts.
Don't even dare putting Guns N Roses in the same shelf as bands such as Poison or Winger. That's the first thing. Second thing, it's not because the band wears leather jackets and stuff like, that it means it's a glam hair metal band. Judas Priest and Iron Maiden, for example, did that, and they were heavy metal bands.
Agreed 100 percent, i always get pissed when people call Guns hair metal
If they wear pink lip gloss and blush they're probably hair metal tho
Coma shown the genius lyricism and depth that Axl held in Guns ❤
Yup
Yes. The song names were intentional and not coincidental - The Garden, The Garden of Eden, Don't Damn Me and Bad Apples - get it? And that piano style you're referring to is honky tonk piano. GNR have all kinds of blues music in their roots. Also shout out to Alice Cooper for the guest vocals on The Garden.
omg. had the album for 30 years and never realized this!
What is there to get?? I don't mean that condescendingly. I'm genuinely clueless lol
OH! I almost forgot. Slash is NOT the only guitarist on the first 4 GNR albums. Izzy Stradlin is the rhythm guitarist (and the unsung hero / MVP of the band).
UYI EYE LOL
We need UYI 2 next
Appetite for Destruction is their best album, try that one.
"Dust N Bones" is a masterpiece. I didn't like it as much as a bratty teenager when the album first came out but over the years I've realized it's maybe the best song they ever did. "14 Years" has the same vibe.
Definitely an Izzy song. GnR wasn't the same after he left. He crafted much of the distinctive style.
Loved it first time I played it. Repeated it a half dozen times. Before I could go to the next song
GNR is my favorite band since 92. "Use your Illusion II" and "Appetite for Destruction" are great albuns. Nice channel dude. Looking forward for your success.
You’re thinking of the Don’t Cry Video which shows a grave marker with Axl’s name on it I believe. I’ve been watching the video of November Rain since I was a teenager in the early 90’s when it was released. It never showed a scene with a zombie Axl at the end.
Bro you HAVE to do use your illusion 2 and appetite for destruction they’re the best albums
2 guitar players Izzy Stradlin and Slash, Slash was lead guiter
Man you have to listen to and justice for all by Metallica
Yeah, not a hair band.
Listen to UYI 2 and to AfD. AfD is one of the best of all time.
Imagine this dudes reaction when he hears Chinese Democracy
Old Slash was very very melodic and the best part is that what he did would fit perfectly into the feeling of the song musicly and blended with the feeling of the lyrics. You can feel anger, love, saddness, etc.. on his guitar parts when the song also talks about that. It's amazing.
Same with Axl's vocals, his great range and his feeling is perfect.
1:30:50 Slash didn’t play with single coil pickups but rather humbucker pickups. He specifically played with Seymour Duncan Alnico II pickups.
Another vote for Appetite for destruction and Metallica, And Justice for all
The green Zombie Axl is from the music video for Don't Cry
Shannon Hoon is a guest vocalist in Don't Cry :) And green zombie Axl is from the Don't Cry video :)
Hoon guesting just proves GnR were partly an alt-rock band.
Since you had asked about Axl's vocals. Axl is a natural baritone, so his lower register is indeed deep. He is famous for his high pitch screeches, and for his rasp, but his lower register is just as awesome as his other vocals :)
Coma hit you hard, you were almost silent during the song.
I don't see that anyone else mentioned this, but the whole band, aside from Axl, had to record their stuff in one take. No plug in a note here and there if they screwed up. They had to start over from the beginning. Their logic was, if they can't do it in a comfy studio, how the hell would they pull it off live? Matt Sorum, the drummer on this record, found that out the hard way when he started recording this album. They may have had their demons, but they were pros and took their craft very seriously.
That's not true, Slash played multiple layers and that's why in the 2000's the band had 3 guitar players instead of 2.
Guns n' roses is not hair band. You will get your mouth slapped quick. 🤣
Guns and roses are in a category in the genre of their own. Go listen to the most important album ever recorded, appetite for destruction, and then will then we can negotiate
They are not a hair band,
Thanks for facilitating this content also for me. I would never dig into those bands without your help :-)
I believe that the creepy axl clip is in the music video for don't cry. I used to have their "welcome to the videos" DVD and it was on there.
You do know Guns r Roses are not a hair band!!!!
The "green zombie Axl" is from the Don't Cry video
and now use your illusion 2 please
Appetite For Destruction (Don't do Spaghetti Incident. It's really bad.)
+ cough + ...AndJusticeForAll + cough +
Spaghetti incident is a great album
Spaghetti incident has some good tracks
I was a massive GNR fan as a young kid around 1990. Back then we called the genre Hard Rock. Harder than rock and roll but softer than Metal.
Huh, no wonder why I don't like listening to metal
@an5867If you want more relaxed stuff try Bob Seger. If you want a little harder try Megadeth.
Lol all was called Metal and Rock nobody called sny band hard Rock
@@Endo-uu8moMaybe where you were that was true. Your reply makes me wonder how old you are, though.
I like Dust N Bones sounds like hard rock honky tonk and the words are interesting.
Not even close, no one better than Axl Rose!!!
Mike Patton
Jon Bon Jovi
I enjoyed your rants on this video, i mean... can't force ppl to like what i love ( GNR) but i enjoy when ppl give the chance to hear it and think about it.
The reasons why some classify them as such are just because of superficiality and has nothing to do with their actual music. Its people who have not truly heard them jugding them as such since they are a 80s band from LA with a frontman wich in the early days did have the big hair etc. And also many people dont really understand the difference in genres and think all rock bands with a classic frontman from the 80s in general must be a hair/glam band since that was the big rock thing the ignorant outsider assosiates with that decade. I have heard the same kind of people reffering to Iron Maiden as a hair/glam band to LOL 🤣 Its the same kind of people who think all bands with a hard sound and electric guitar of the 90s are grungde 😅
React to Chinese Democracy
No, Guns N Roses does not suck
U GOTTA LISTEN TO USE UR ILLUSION 2 ITS EVEN BETTER
UYI 1 is better
2 guitar players man. Izzy stradlin and slash.
perfect crime and back off beach is my favorite so far 😅😅
Yep, they have a rhythm guitarist. Izzy Stradlin in the studio versions of the Illusion albums and Gilby Clark when they played live after Izzy left. Essentially all their songs on this album have rhythm guitar backing Slash.
Whitesnake, not a hair band. Only if you know their 1987 hits do you think they are a hair band. They are an offshoot of Deep Purple that started in the late 70's but adopted the "glam" image and more pop sound in 1987 to get MTV airplay.
Hair band is a dumb term anyway, the look or image does not define the music. Are they still a "hair band" if they cut their hair but still play the same music, as many did? Are bands that had big hair but play other genres like country or R&B also "hair bands"? And this music has outlasted all the fads that came and went since.
I'm not looking for the "true answer" from this lol, just morbidly curious what a millennial who wasn't around and knows nothing about this music has to say.
Def Leppard is not a hair band either. They had long hair but were essentially pop. Maybe NWOBHM at the very beginning.
This is very well put.
I was listening Don't Cry with you while taking a beer, cheers buddy!
Nice reactions
GNR Was The Biggest Rock Band All The Time, In Late 80'S, GNR Won The MTV Video Music Award (VMA), Since 1989,1990,1992,1993. Beating U2 Albums, Metallica Albums, And Nirvana Albums in The MTV Music Video Award. Then GNR Vacuum in The Middle Of 1993, Then Came The Famous Alternative Bands, Such As: Nirvana, Pearl jam, And SmashingPumpkins. Nirvana is Famous For Entering The Same Music Recording Studio As GNR, Namely Universal Studio Music, Through The Album Nevermind. Even though Previously Nirvana Was Not Famous at The Time, When They Were Still in Their Indipop Music Studio. The Famous Alternative Music Band From 1993-1995. Then GNR Held A Reunion At Troubadour in L.A. And The Coachella Music Festival in 2006. Many Hollywood Artists Came, Watched The GNR Reunion, Because Everyone Missed The Band GNR Rock Music, Because The Music GNR Was Very Nice To Hear. I Loved The Band GNR. From Solihin in Central Jakarta. Indonesia. 💖👫💖👫👌👍👏👏.
Probably reminds you of Blind Melon because Shannon Hoon is singing back on a few songs ;)
Guns and roses are definitely not a hair band 😂 I'm mildly insulted 😂
You reacted to the entire album. When are you going to do Use your illusion 2
react Appetite for Destruction
Yeah why didn't he choose their best and one of the best albums of all time
@@SBM-wl6mn ye, " use your illusion 1 and 2 " are good, but in my vision, "appetite for destruction" is so more better, don't have any bad song, different from " use you illusion 1 and 2 ".
Good
Green zombi is in Don't cry video !
If you want to try & listen to GnR, it is best to start from the beginning. It does not matter, only if you are already a fan. Since you are not a fan, I would suggest starting with Appetite for Destruction. It is GnR's first album and also their best (I love all GnR's albums, but I have been a fan for many years).
The green zombie Axl underground is at the Don't Cry videoclip
The green Zombie is in the The Don't Cry music video. Just sayin!
Your dog is sweeteast and funny.....I love Guns' n Roses.....I saw them in Italy Tourin in 1992... amazing live and show......
Axl: How many solos should you do?
Slash: Yes
My fav song is Back Off B*
That is a very old song. Almost made it onto Appetite.
Dude the 2nd solo and also the Garden solo is on another level, hypnotic
GnR ain't a hair band
Wtf they was influenced by New York Dolls and Aeorosmith ,Hanoi Rocks and you say no Hair Band😅😅😅😅😅😅
This is my favourite guns n roses album.
There are songs from this album that sound better in their "live" version, for example Bad Obsession or Double Talkin Jive
You know Axl Rose and Shannon Hoon was best friends and he's in the video for don't cry and he sings on it appetite for destruction and use your illusion 2 you gotta listen too
Great reaction, if you've liked november rain video you need to watch estranged video!😁
Hair bands didn't tour with Metallica, hair bands were not known and labeled as a dangerous show. Hair bands didn't get kicked out of venues to never play again.
Motley Crue?
@@alicja7282 you got me! LOL. However, to be fair, they were kind of closer along the lines with guns n' roses than other hair bands
@@alicja7282 however, another point motley Crue didn't start riots in the audience and walk off stage and not finish their set tearing apart a brand new arena AKA St. Louis guns n' roses 93 I believe it was 93. They did that
@@thomasbrower693 maybe not riot but motley's first concert ended up as beating up crowd lol (the audacity xD)
There are 2 guitarist. Slash on Lead, Izzy Stradlin on the rythm
Love and let die is originally by Paul McCartney
The green Axl underground was the end of the don’t cry video
They are a raw/hard rock awesome band, not a hair band
Use ur illusion II now?
Love the reaction!
In the Garden sing Alice Cooper with Axl....
After Your Illusion two you should react to Appetite for Destruction the first album....amazing....
Amazing man great video the green Axl was in Dont cry if im not mistaken also u analysized the songs great i used to think rock was all screaming to until i started out watching GNR and other bands ps i liked ur cute dog.❤😊
Don't Dame Me , need i say more
They have 2 guitars izzy stradlan on rythm guitar and slash on lead
On this album rhythm is gilby Clarke 😁
@@manutdfan8510 ok i didn't realize where we were in the band drama timeline. 👍
@@roseclarity1493 this is the 2nd album so right after the drama 😁 Gilbys first studio album as well as Matt the drummers 1st,although weirdly izzy wrote quite a lot of the album as well as quite a lot of use your illusion 2 😁