Rob Parker Explains Why the Argument for Steph Curry as Second Best Point Guard is a Sham
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The game has evolved. All positions are hybrid nowadays.
Are they really hybrids? I hear people always saying what today's players are capable of, but we never really see them do it.
I wouldn't say it's the position but the players
Go ahead and watch the Olympics you can’t switch like you do in the NBA. There is no small ball in the Olympics that’s NBA crap that’s dying out year by year. The NBA game changed the rules it has not evolved
Alot of tweeners
@@djdavejordan6498 there were skilled players in every era but this generation are allowed to maximize their skills. That's why we have more point-forwards, shooting bigs, scoring first small guards.
By all accounts Steph is a combo guard. He can’t really be considered strictly a point guard. He switches between point and shooting guard all game long. He is very unique in his play.
No, Steph Curry is very much a point guard. He played PG all his life. It isn't his fault he is gifted as an off ball player as well.
lol he’s listed at PG during his entire career stop trying to make him a SG it’s lame shooting guards don’t average 6+ assist per game
@@TripVinoyeah they actually do Kobe mike harden etc… he’s never avg 9 assist in his career he’s definitely a shooting guard draymond plays point forward he brings the ball up the court and initiates the offense curry runs thru screens
A combo guard? You sound like a casual fan. He is a PG, so you fault him b/c he can shoot and to win games you have to score points so b/c he has the skill to go.for 30 points now he isn't a PG. Smh. Just admit you don't understand basketball
@@rootofallevi umm, I don’t think you understand the game. Unlike you, I actually played at a fairly high level and was a guard. When you play guard you don’t really define yourself as a shooting guard or a point guard. You facilitate and do what is needed to win. Which is what a combo guard is. Steph does what is needed to win, he can pass and is a gifted scorer. It’s crazy you don’t understand the guard position as a self declared basketball person. The other reason Steph can be considered a combo guard is because his off ball movement and scoring off the ball. Pure point guards rarely score from the off ball because the facilitate completely with the ball. See CP3, Stockton and Nash. Even AI as a point guard scored on his own much more as opposed to off ball.
Tricked us with the title, they somehow managed to talk about LeBron in this video....
Cause that’s who’s being talked about to run point…..and the first like 7 mins was mainly about Steph…..my bad, you’re one of THOSE people 🤣
@@terrymcginnis223 i try to avoid all LeBron media. This way I don't have to be grossed out by his behavior. In turn I dont feel the need to complain about him disgracing the league causing me to upset his fans. Everybody won with my system. Video title ruined my streak
Dude said he doesn’t wanna get grossed out lmao you can’t make this up
Steph is a shooting guard with point guard size. Pretty much like Allen Iverson 🤷🏾♂️
Derrick Rose?
The fact is y’all don’t decide his position and it’s weird that you act as if you do. Y’all sound like the people that call Lamar a runningback. He doesn’t have to play the position the way they did in 1960. His position is determined by the coach and how it fits into his system.
So Russell Westbrook is a shooting guard too, right? The guy was consistently top of the league in scoring.
@@blacknetsmedWestbrook was the primary facilitator and ball handler.
@realspitter2727 yea thats nba discourse. People think they get to decide what position a player plays.
Rob is just protecting Zeke that’s all he had to say
I think Zeke is a better pg than Steph. Steph is just a better player
@@freeindeed8416 I understand that but why can’t we allow the positions to evolve? Ppl were callin Harden a PG in HOU even tho he was the 2 he just also happened to be the primary ball handler and facilitator while being the primary scorer as well
Rob actually made a decent point on this topic
@@Someone_VIP I guess if we’re sticking to traditional positional definitions which were made up along the way. Dr. Neismith never intended for their to be positions he built the game position-less
Dude just hate steph at this point
🤔Explain...
@@jaywally6322 he's a contrarian...
Thinks rodgers is better than brady
Thinks Lamar is better than mahomes
Thinks Reggie is a better shooter than steph...
If everyone goes left...he goes right..
Yeah bruh he always hating on Steph actually. For the longest time.
@@jaywally6322not to argue but if you look back at their podcast sessions in the past, he's not a point guard, he's not clutch, they're not winning another ring (before they won their 4th) etc
@DavidLee-vp3nr IM SICK OF IT. STEP IS THE GREATEST. I personally think step can play the 1 , 2, 3. But to say he's not 1 or 2 point guard is crazy. If you want to debate if he's the 3rd greatest shooting guard of all time fine. Bur ROB just hates steph
Rob is on record saying Steph's 3 pt shooting RUINED the NBA. He hates him and will search out dum dum excuses to show his hate.... He NEVER does that with players he likes.
Rob doesn't think Steph is the 2nd best PG, while also thinking Rodgers is 1 ring away from being the GOAT?
This clown can't spell "logical consistency"
@TheMissle steph fanboy
Somebody can be wrong about one thing and right about another. Rob is right Steph isn't the 2nd best PG of all time.
Just like LeBron isn't the GOAT and Rodgers isn't one ring away from being the GOAT.
@@myselfandeye3884based of what? Who’s better?
@@joe2times381Isaiah Thomas
@@daa_97only clowns pickin Thomas over Curry. Ima be real
I’m finding it harder and herder to listen to Broussard.
He is a sellout
Steph is the best Point in the league. Listen to what AD said today about him. Stop this lie that Draymond handles the ball more than Steph. Steph brings the ball up, has the best handle on the team, gets everyone open shots and closes games having the rock in his hands. That's PG play.
@@regal394 we not saying draymond handles the ball more. we just saying draymond plays the point guard role so that steph can take on the more valuable shooting guard duties. steph is a combo guard, and to me, he's mostly a shooting guard. and that's a good thing. get him off the ball so that he can get the ball in motion in a good position to score.
Steph ain’t better than Luka
@@aadamesdraymond plays that role because that’s the only role he can play on the Warriors offense.
@@EliWest-ok4oq that's not the only role he could play. it's the best role he can play.
@@deBad693 Luka got a long way to go bro, and he's not a point. He's a SF just like LeBron that hogs the ball too much
Bro said 0-11 and isn’t even talking about the right player like come on
I think he’s referring to the game tying/leading shots that Steph is 0-11 on, not Klay’s last game.
But that isn’t even true. I watch Steph hit a game winner against the Suns THIS SEASON. They were down 1 or 2 and he busted a game winning 3 on Beal.
Steph Curry actually Leads the NBA in game winners since 2013 google it
Lies he hit a game tying 3 against the Pelicans in 2015 in on the road in the playoffs this dude is full of it he puts lies out like they are facts and having people believe him sad
@@fromthedivinesource7059you’re a liar. Stephen Curry is now 0-12 in his playoff career on potential go-ahead shots in the final 45 seconds of the 4th quarter or overtime.
Steph is the ultimate combo guard…
That's exactly what he is
The same could be said for Magic
@@BaithNa magic is a traditional pg
@christianbutler8610 no steph is not .Allen Iverson is the ultimate Combo Guard Iverson did it first but yall hate Iverson
@@malikwilson7387naw iverson my favorite all time he’s no Steph buddy 💯Steph clears without the championships
Rob dont like steph so bad its embarrassing lol. Hes not a traditional pg true
Rob parker stays on the curry machine at all costs
Rob is a gimmick at this point .
I don't know what it is but Rob Parker can't stand Steph
He just telling the truth 😅
He probably hates what he’s done to basketball. Turned every game into a damn 3 point shooting contest. I resent it a bit myself.
@@jasearl No he doesn't like Steph for real I'm not even talking about what he said he has his opinion but outside of that he does not like that man
@@jerodgraham6623 can't blame Steph for it being a copy cat league and if you really watch his game he doesn't just shoot 3's
He is just critical of Steph's poor defense relative to the guys on NBA Mt Rushmore which IMO is not unfair
Why is bronny not there
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Because mj is the 3rd all time
@5:50 Anytime Kobe comes up in conversation in the media, no matter how brief, they find a way to disrespect him slightly... Chip away at his legacy slowly but surely and make sure to try to erase him from history... This is not even a discussion
They do the same to LeBron so what u saying ,they don't do it to M.J
@@jamainethompson4851EXACTLY BRA 💯 EVERY chance they get they try to diminish lebron but they can't LEBRON RAMON JAMES IS THE GREATEST ALL AROUND PLAYER THE NBA HAS EVER SEEN
Well they do the same thing to lebron EVERY GODDAMN DAY and I'm sure you're one of them too.
Steph is currently 39th all time in assists. I consider him a 2 guard
Who’s Golden States PG then?
Steph would have to average more than 10 assists per game to be in the discussion for the best PG. Idk why ppl keep trying to change the standards. Steph is not a true PG, don't compare him to true PGs, compare him to combo guards.
Tweener💯
@@russelltreadwayhaving to average 10 assists is a crazy unrealistic requirement, Jason Kidd is one of the best passing pgs of all time & averaged 10 assists only 4 times in 19 years
Steph is a point guard period. He just doesn't play the position traditionally. I'm today's NBA consist of more non traditional guards than ever
Klay went 0 for 11 not Steph rob Parker is dumb
0-12 in clutch scenarios
@@bryansilva6306 lol so what about all the game winners he hit this year
@bryansilva6306
In a very specific situation, not actual clutch. Steph lead the league in clutch situations last year. He's 0-12 in shots that would have put his team ahead when the clock strikes 0 in the playoffs. 5 of those shots happened in 1 series against the Cavs.
@@pbreese8257goofy
@@pbreese8257didn’t even make the playoffs
CREATE ANOTHER CATEGORY A HYBRID GUARD. STEPH IS THE GREATEST HYBRID GUARD ALL TIME.
Steph changed the position in a way that most simply dont understand. If we were to try to best describe this new position and add players who belong there, it would be difficult putting any player alongside Steph since he appears to be the only player to have mastered his shooting threat as a means to get other players open. It's the art of deception that was not in the game before at the point position and because of this still new type gravitational pull he creates simply by being on the court, there are some who think Steph isn't actually playing point, while in reality, he reinvented the position.
True...and by that definition then Magic, Pippen, Grant Hill and Bron' etc would be HYBRID FORWARDS. Jokic is a HYBRID CENTER or POINT CENTER if you wish. hey just want to pigeon hole these guys into these slots for debates and arguments.
@@BlkDiesel
The old heads are working overtime to prevent positionless basketball as anything real.
@@AndYouAre James Harden, Trae Young, LeBron James, and Nikola Jokic - all have led their teams in assists multiple times as the primary playmaker - all play different positions. The roles and responsibilities on the court stay fairly constant - playmaking, rim protection, rebounding, spacing, scoring - but who fulfills those roles doesn’t always neatly align with traditional positional designations. KP is a center. Shaq was a center. Their roles on offense are incredibly different.
Steph is a combo guard not a point.
What is he listed as in the NBA? I don’t see combo guard as a choice for positions.
You didn’t make the position neither are you in the nba so who cares
@@johnnybuchananjr9344 but he is listed as a PG therefore he’s a PG.
@@bjrowland25he's a combo guard
@@wangtang12he’s a point guard yall need to stop hating on Steph
You know what's crazy about Steph? Steph is so ELITE on the ball and off the ball people hold that against him and say he isn't a true point guard. Before Steve Kerr coached Steph it was Mark Jackson and back then Steph was more of an on ball traditional point guard getting a ton of assists. Then Steve Kerr came and started utilizing Steph off the ball. Steph is the ultimate on ball/off ball guard, something magic couldn't dream of doing. If Magic was shooting the ball and move without it like Steph he would be used off ball because that wrecks havoc. That creates the gravity and opportunity for other players to
Different play styles
Magic started at CENTER in a Championship game at 21 years old and you don't think he could play the 2? Yeah sure. He has NEVER come close to double digit assists in a season. Completely different eras with different rules. Steph WOULD NOT average what he does now if her played in the 80's and early 90's. WHY. Hand check rules...Isia hThomas would beat him up and down the court. They took away the hand check and offensives opened up along with the epic 3 point shooting. Kind of pointless to compare eras. Donte Divanchenzo is the KNICKS LEADER in 3 point shooting!! He takes like 8 a game. Reggie Miller barely shot 5 a game. Can you imagine if Ray Allen, Bird and Reggie Miller shot that many 3's?
Facts
@@gregorybealeforget the fact that Magic is 69
Steph was known as a shooter since college. He’s never really been a pg. and Why would magic play the 2 guard? He was the ultimate pass first traditional pg. he played center as a rookie in the finals when Kareem got hurt and won finals mvp. That’s something Steph could never dream of doing. Steph was having ankle surgery as a rookie and competing with montage Ellis for who was the best player on the team 😂 there was never a doubt magic was the best player on his team
I mean he’s not wrong, he’s not a point guard
Neither is Lebron….but the circus continues
@@junstadomus Who says Lebron is?
The fact is y’all don’t decide his position and it’s weird that you act as if you do. Y’all sound like the people that call Lamar a runningback. He doesn’t have to play the position the way they did in 1960. His position is determined by the coach and how it fits into his system.
@@yourenotthatguy6295 doesn’t he run the point most times. Ball dominant?
Rob's argument is ridiculous
He himself is ridiculous
It’s Rob dude he is part of what’s wrong in this sports media business
When hasn’t anything rob said be ridiculous? Other than baseball lol
No it isn’t. Stephen Curry is now 0-12 in his playoff career on potential go-ahead shots in the final 45 seconds of the 4th quarter or overtime. LeGoat > CurFraud
@@marianoortega6725 You mean the 4 time champ Steph Curry? The unanimous MVP Steph Curry?
Anybody that knows basketball for real understands the truth.
Wth does that mean 😂 ppl liking ur comment pretending to understand wat ur saying..ur truth isn’t everyone else’s truth
Speak your truth then
That.... doesn't mean anything at all.
Most vague comment ever
Man really said absolutely nothing 😂
Yes, he's the best PG in the game's history 🙏🏾.
The hate on THIS CHANNEL for CHEF 👩🍳 CURRY IS INSANE
You don’t have to be pass first to be considered a PG
Exactly! Silly argument
Damn rob that actually is a good question
Couldn't agree more...he has point guard tendencies obviously but is a true two guard, one of, if not, the absolute best. Rob to Chris on SC being a better point guard than LJ: "Stop It!"🤣
@@kwilliams1958y’all don’t know basketball. But neither does Rob. The only ppl arguing curry not being a PG are the ones that never even made it to starting varsity and damn sure didn’t play after Highschool. Aka average joes. Rob is an average Joe… jus has a platform
@@Louisianimal-225EBR Thanks for your insight!
@@kwilliams1958 fasho, boy. No problem
@@Louisianimal-225EBR "Alright, alright, alright!" Keep keeping it REAL! 🏀🏀🏀
The fact that rob even questioned Steph curry being better then Kobe irks my nerves… rob makes good points from time to time but sometimes I wonder if he even watches/understands what he’s watching. 6:14
Jeezus. I’m so sick of Chris Booosard’s impotent takes on EVERYTHING.
He has no opinions, just circular reasoning where he makes sure to not offend anyone. Especially LeBalco. 😂
Rob needs a better co-host.
I think Rob be talking without thinking sometimes. He can't possibly say dumb stuff on purpose.
Steph never averaged 10 assists in a season. How is he a pg?
@@spenser6353what rules say a og has to average a certain amount of assets???? Curry has averaged 9 assists in a postseason and has averaged 8 for a season
@@Newportnews98 hes not a better PG than magic
Lebalco is starting klutch broussard you know this mayne lmao 🤣😂
You point out Broussard as being represented by Klutch. Yet Broussard has Jordan as the Goat and has for a long time.
@@clm3688 jordan is the goat i dont need klutch broussard or rich paul james to tell me that lmao
And LEBRON RAMON JAMES IS THE GREATEST ALL AROUND PLAYER THE NBA HAS EVER SEEN NOT JORDAN BUDDY DEAL WITH IT...I know it burns your PATHETIC soul 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂@Nofunleaguesportschannel
Rob, please tell that to the people in the back
Tatum: great rebounder for his size
Also Tatum: 6’10”
He is a PG, its just the offense sets. Rob Parker is just hating because Steph is better than Isiah Thomas. Steph is doing what he is asked to do, resulted in 4 Championships. It's the same thing as Lebron got more assist than Jordan. When just was asked to run the PG position, he averaged over 10 assist a game ( look it up). Jordan was needed to score which resulted in 6 Championships. Curry is asked to shoot and not limit himself passing to basketball players that can't shoot. It's stupid.
Since you wanna bring up Isiah Thomas, How is he better than Isiah Thomas. Because he needed a player that’s better or at least his equal to come stack his team so that he could win 2 more easy titles? Because you like him better? Or because he scores more, which just plays right into Parker’s point that he is a point guard in size only. Isiah Thomas was the true definition of a “point guard” while always being the best player and leader of his championship teams while doing it in a tougher era against Jordan, bird, and Magic.
@@user-ql2su2qk1v i agree. Isiah is tough. He really has 3 championships too. Im a Bird N Jordan fan but i give isiah his props. Its a toss up between steph n isiah. John Stockton really good too..
Naw I'm picking Thomas over Curry... Thomas plays defense Curry doesn't
@@arizonaFIREentcurry plays defense, he just gets his boots smoked every time but the booger does try.
Man if y’all don’t stop trying to not give Durant his credit for those titles. If it wasn’t for kd he doesn’t have 4 and saying he won before and after kd is irrelevant. You can even say that curry is only responsible for 1 title and that is only because Durant saved the warriors legacy. If kd doesn’t go to gsw that team would have been broken up earlier and they only got the first 1 because of injuries. Curry has the luckiest or easiest 4 titles ever.
Now Lebron a good 3 point shooter off one good percentage season Chris is aggravating
Lebron is always up-and-down on his 3-point %. There have been lots of seasons in the past where he is in the high 30% range, then he slips to high 20%s, then he comes back. He's had some really good 3-point % seasons, but he has never been able to sustain it.
@@stevenkraft8070coz he does souch more. Shoot the two, shoot the three, passes so well. Rebounds. Dunks and defends ... Give this man some credit
You are aggravating with your hate. He turned himself into a good three point shooter, which is good. 41% which is the most recent. Imagine this man doing this at the end of his career and yet clowns like you can't appreciate even just his dedication to the game. Shame on you
When Rob says “I’m just saying” you know he doesn’t have a real argument
😂 you right he not the second greatest. He's the best point guard. This is why Rob gets blasted on a daily
Rob is right
You a clown oh hell naw 😂
Comparing two 6"9 players to a 6"3 player is one of the reason Steph is HIM
@@worlstar8163 , not really. The 6'9 point guard, played like a point guard. Steph is a point playing like a two guard. Also, that 6'9 guy if need be, would play the forward or center spot and can still run the offense. No knock on Steph, but he's not better at point guard than Magic. As my point, I'd take Isaiah over him too.
@@djdavejordan6498 1 opinion
He is listed as a point guard so we rank him as such,
Clyde Drexler was the #2 player during Jordan era , now he’s treated like a nobody 🤷♂️🤷♂️
#2 really? Cause I can think of a lot above Clyde. Dominique, Alex english, bird, Barkley, Hakeem, Robinson. Maybe you mean just sg? Which I've said sg was a weak postion in Jordan's time. But even then you had Mitch richmond, Reggie Miller, Reggie lewis, Steve Smith, sprewell. Are just some of the sg who were out scoring Clyde per year. Clyde was a top 5 scorer like twice and top 10 maybe 3-4. Not to take away from Clyde but to say he was 2nd best is 😂 but I would agree he like so many dont get appreciated. Look at Bernard King or Alex English great scores basically forgotten. Hell Wilt some times isnt even top 10. Or worse not top 5 for centers. This is just how it goes.
Chris finally kept it 💯 Kobe is the best shooting guard next to MJ
💯💯💯
What other shooting guard would even be in the argument with them? Wade maybe?
Rob has a point on the PG take😅
Not really. Y’all tripping 🤷♂️
The team decides what his position is. It’s a stupid conversation
Rob Parker be smoking K2
I'll say this. Steph brings the ball up and whether he stays on ball or passes and plays off ball hes still usually the one initiating the offense and dictating the tempo. His ability to move without the ball and shoot should not diminish how good of a ball handler and passer he is or how he orchestrates his teams offense regardless of where he is on the court.
And when all else is said and done, Steph and magic are both listed as PGs and both do one thing better than literally everyone else whos ever played so i have no problem calling either the best at the position.
So funny because most “true point guards” haven’t won a thing. Dude plays point and he’s off ball movement is more valuable than passing.
Lmao ikr. Stockton, Paul, Nash etc.
It’s really just Isaiah and Magic post merger that are the exception to the rule.
@@iang7244Stockton played in back to back finals. He just ran into Jordan. Steph plays point because of his height. Doesn’t make him a pg. iverson played point. He wasn’t a pg
@@spenser6353 Point about Stockton doesn’t disprove what I said. He didn’t win.
Steph is a combo guard. But he is a closer to a 1 than a 2 in my opinion.
Iverson was an undersized 2. Straight up. We saw what real PGs looked like in the 2000’s with Kidd, Nash, and Paul.
@@spenser6353 nah the Jazz choked hard back to back
@@iang7244 Allen Iverson was the first combo guard
Steph is the prohibitive 2nd best pg of all time… get out of here.. the stats, accolades, winning, and eye test all back it.. Steph is closer to magic than whoever you want to put in 3rd.. matter fact the gap is double
The stats don't mean spit in today's NBA..... Steph is maybe top 5...but he's not 1, 2, or 3
No way is Steph the 2nd best point guard of all time. Magic is #1 without a doubt, but then you're telling me that Steph is better at setting up the offense over guys like the big O, Isiah, Stockton, Nash, Chris Paul, hell even j Kidd? No way.
Steph is a 2 guard. That puts him in the same group as mike, Kobe, and D wade.
@@SuperSonic_868currys position is the point guard so that's what he is. Who is your second best point guard then?
@@TodTatney I see where this discrepancy comes from. Some people, like you mentioned, look at Steph as a PG because of his designated position. Some people, like me, look at it based on what his role is. Based on his role, he's a 2. Based on his "position" he's a 1. Was AI and is kyrie also a pg? They both had that pg label at times. Personally, I don't think so. All highly skilled guards at scoring. Not so much at being a distributor.
I look at the point (let's forget about the limiter in saying "guard") as the guy setting up the offense. Getting everyone in position to run sets and plays. The QB of the basketball world. Magic, big o, and Stockton were the 3 best at that job.
@@SuperSonic_868Fair points. Here’s the discrepancy with these kinds of arguments. The role of a point guard is to create shots and opportunities for their teammates, which does not always show up in the form of assists. What makes Steph special is that he creates opportunities for his teammates both on and off the ball. For the majority of Steph’s career, besides the couple he played with KD, Steph’s second best scorer was Klay Thompson, a good catch and shoot player who barely created his own shot, and a great defensive player in Draymond Green who isn’t the best ball handler, and who isn’t known to be a scorer. Steph needed to draw attention away from these players to allow them to be their most impactful, so he had to split his time between on and off the ball.
This can all be confirmed (and easily confirmed) by the win percentages and poor shooting and playmaking performances by both of these players without Steph. The sample size is large enough to concede this fact. I think Magic was a phenomenal distributor, but it’s frankly a travesty that most of us don’t see that passing to Byron Scott, Kareem, Worthy and more, was a privilege. And just because the passing we’re “showtime” and mystifying doesn’t make him better. However, I can concede that Steph is number 2, and he is number 1, although Steph is my number 1 PG. putting anyone else in the 2nd greatest PG spot over Steph would be absolute oversight, and a game costing him oversight at that if you were to build an all time team.
It's like this. Set some boundaries for yourself, basketball has never been ambiguous to the extent every player on every team is a tweener or a "hybrid". Every position has a standard operation. It's scientific sport fact at this point and every one knows the same thing. Stop shitting on the way the game was played in the 60's and 70's because it took that style of play to get to where the N.B.A. is today. The fact is, your point guard needs to or should average more assist than points in order to be considered a true point guard by position standards (Disclaimer: If your point guard can establish the roster as a scoring efficient talented roster from his/her passing opportunities.). If your point guard scores more points than passes for the assist even in easy situations then your point guard is a selfish player and not considered a true point guard, just a short shooting guard.😎
Rob Parker makes a great point. SC should be point and starting point guard if he is talked about as only Second to Magic!
Goofy asking if Kobe ahead of Curry. The fact he even asked makes his basketball knowledge questionable at best. These clowns and Kobe slick hate is getting more comfortable. Steph no matter what position is no where near Kobe
Yea Rob basketball knowledge is crazy
@@Louisianimal-225EBR I mean that’s a good argument is Kobe ahead of curry he not on my list
HERE GOES OFFERING KEEP PREACHING THE GOSPEL PASTOR
Kobe is not way better than curry especially on the offensive side
@@Newportnews98 bro stop before it gets personal you young mfs don’t respect the history of the game you think bcus a player makes 3s is the end all be all do you watch post moves foot work
Idk if I'd put Steph over D Wade if we're categorizing Steph as a SG. That's a tough one
Why not?
I probably would, but it’s closer than people think. Still my top 5 SG would be: Jordan, Kobe, West, Steph, Wade.
@@jayplunks I can't just outright say that Steph is better than prime Wade. His career was hampered by that bad knee, but Wade was a legit superstar way before LeBron joined the Heat. Finals MVP in year 3...where they do that at?
@@jayplunksdefense for 1..
@@tj2nasty4ya83 steph is one player who is so transcendent that his defense which is not bad isnt even coming up in this conversation. im taking curry as a player all day. his 2022 ring proved he can carry and also has played way better than wade in the finals
This was a good topic, Summer talk.
Rob is right though
Steph is a 2 guard he's not a point simular as AI was..they're 2guards mascarading as a point guard so that talk needs to stop about Steph being one of the best pg..now today's bball is positionless so its harder to label this guys but its Magic then Zeke and you decide from there
AI was a shooting gaurd not a PG. 🤡🤡🤡
Rob got these curry boys in they feelings again 😂😂😂😂
Every time! Temperature just went up to 100 degrees.
He’s a hater flat out. His argument is flawed because pg job is to run the offense which curry does
@@sew9068naw yall rob nut huggers just don’t know ball
@@sew9068 aye call him whatever you want, he’s still a 4x champ, 2x mvp (only unanimous), fmvp, goat shooter and more.
Rob Parker should not be allowed on air never again 🤦♂️
I've been saying this for years about a lot of these so-called point guards. They are really shooting guards. Tim Duncan was a center he played it 65% of the time, but people still call him a power forward.
How can the 2nd best PG in NBA history avg 6 ast PG
Hes not a PG......
People jus say that so they can boost him up.... if u list him as a SG, hes not even top 5 SG in NBA history.
So which sg are better? Lol you sound idiotic
Game change my guy.....
🤣😂😭. This may be the stupidest thing I've heard in years
You can’t say stuff like this and be expected to be taken seriously. Just be honest and objective. Take the feelings out.
he's not a point guard, but it's not because of his assist numbers. it's because of how he plays.
he's the third best shooting guard of all time in my eyes
Steph is NOT a true PG, he's just not. He's scorer so he is more of a SG.....
😂😂😂 you sound stupid.. he just scores at another level, but majority of the time he plays point
@@Aa-cv5tjHis wife has more assists all time than him and he can't even guard her let alone an NBA player
He changed the position. You can't win in this league with a true point guard as your best player. If you could understand what it actually means to be the general of your team, Curry has been just as effective as anyone who has played the position. Magic did it with passing. Curry does it with his gravity. He creates open shots for his teammates because a team has to pay so much attention to him.
If we were ranking point guards strictly on how they pass the ball, Curry isn't even top 20. That's just not how the game is played today. You have to be able to score at that position which is why he is the 2nd best player ever to play that position. In the last 50 years, only 2 points not named Curry has won as their teams best player.
@@BOSSenjoyer 😂😆😆😆😆😆 you are a savage family... I'm not getting into all that but Steph is doing what the real Isaiah Thomas was doing so why isn't Steph a point guard?
@@Aa-cv5tj I'd take John Stockton, Jason Kidd, CP3, Gary Payton the 1st, Steve Nash, handling the ball and guarding over Draymond (point whatever) and Curry combined. He gets hot from 3 more often than not, that's his 'thing'.
Tatum as a starter is wild af
Ur mom birthing you.. wild asf
I'm so confused. I though Brou was talking about possible Olympic lineups and strengths and weaknesses, and then Rob Parker started hating on Curry and him not being a point guard?!?
Steph is the best shooting point guard and best ball handling shooting guard in the history of the game!!!
CURRY IS THE 🐐 PG STOP IT !
He's not. That's magic
“Lebron come off the bench”… 😂
I literally laughed immediately.. and I’m an anti-Lebronsexual but come on. Lebron? Off the bench ? Lmaooo
Luka was never a small forward. He was always the primary ball handler and played at the point guard position.
Saying steph is not a pg is ridiculous… just because the game has changed and pgs score more than they used to is ridiculous. He’s still bringing the ball up and fascilitating the offense. Does rob parker even watch the warriors play? Saying draymond handles the ball more than Steph is crazy… dray may get more assists but it’s because Steph gets rid of the rock and then moves without the ball better than anyone the league has ever seen.
Damian Lillard, Kyrie Irving, Derrick Rose, Russell Westbrook and especially Steph… all of these guys are/were point guards even though they were the primary scoring option on their teams
steph plays the shooting guard role on that team. draymond plays the point guard role. it doesn't have to do with scoring. it's about the role they play in the offense.
@aadames All Draymond does is pass the ball to already open teammates or force passes to a covered Steph and Klay when he was on the team. He doesn't create the looks for others in the way actual point guards such as Cp3, Nash, Kidd or Rondo did.
@@abdulrahamanawudu2096 his role on offense is to start with the ball in his hands and run a set by passing it. the point guards you named are elite basketball talents. instead think of the average or below average point guard.
@@abdulrahamanawudu2096that's cap
@@EL_LeonFredo9 How is it cap?
IS KOBE BETTER THAN STEPH YES BCUS OF THE DEFENSE
NO SHYT THATS NO COMPETITION THESE DUDES HATE KOBE MORE THAN ANYONE IN THE MEDIA
Lebron. Steph. Kawhi. Durant. Embiid should be the starters. All 5 are finals and/or regular season MVPs. Stop it!
The names for the 5 positions were created in what year? The game has changed, but the names haven’t. Bob Cousy wasn’t a threat from the logo, Jerry West wasn’t doing chase down blocks, and Bill Russel wasn’t running offense like a QB
Steph is THE greatest PG ...Magic HAD Hall of Famers around him...Steph MADE others around him Hall of Famers
KD and Klay were gonna be HOF anyways just like Kareem and Worthy. Everyone else on the lakers aren’t HOF without magic.
@@semajcates271exactly, Kareem had 6 mvp awards before Magic even hit the league.
No he’s not. Magic Johnson is. Stephanie Curry isn’t even a top 5 PG in NBA history
Why is even embiid on the team?
Skill and height.... Both needed 👍🏾
The starting line up should be Haliburton, Edwards, KD, Tatum and Bam…
The disrespect for Kawhi wow. 😂
If Steph the greatest point guard ever or even second greatest why isn't he leading team USA at the point?
Disrespect that's why
Because he's far more lethal as a scorer than a distributor while a guy like LeBron is the opposite. Assuming LeBron plays the point, it makes far more sense to take advantage of what they are best at. Make no mistake though, Steph is a fantastic PG and there's nobody you're taking over him besides Magic that you would realistically take if you truly want to win the game and if you would, well, add that to the reasons you're not an NBA coach.
You commenting is the definition of selective questioning to fit your narrative. Also there’s a thing as a play style if you’ve ever played basketball before
Lebron should absolutely come off the bench that shouldn't even be a question
Shut up
Curry is a PG! Stop the madness!
-Magic
-Isaiah
-Stockton
-whatever... theres like 5 other guards including Steph you can put here
Was Iverson a PG or SG? Curry is a PG, Harden is SG, Bron is SF. Stop making up position-less players. Every player has a position.
Rob Parker is still thinking it's the 80s and 90s. Things are different now and that's ok.
Steph is the best off ball player ever and on ball he's Great
Everyone is a combo something or a tweener now. Guys in this era have more baseline talent and can do more things. Guys arent just in the league to foul and rebound now, or pass and not score. Those jobs don't exist. Curry plays the 1. So he's a point guard.
Rob is 100% correct Steph Curry is a shooting guard. What is his greatest attribute that everyone cares about? His shooting. A that’s what he is just like Allen Iverson was a shooting guard that was his primary position same as Curry.
A point to consider: Defense matters, and IMHO players need to be able to defend whatever position[s] or role[s] they're claiming. I.e. you can't claim to be a 5 if you constantly defend the 4 because of lack of size or if you just get cooked in the low post by big-men.
1. Rob is right- Lebron and Magic are the two best PGs of all time.
2. There is evidence to the contrary. Alex Rodriguez was the greatest Shortstop we ever saw for the first 7-8 years of his career and then he switched positions so Derek Jeter could play SS. If you are good enough to play multiple positions for the good of the team, sometimes it happens.
Not taking Thomas over Steph ,. Not taking CP3 over Steph.. Stockton?? lol no disrespect he was a baller but NO., magic is debatable but I wouldn’t choose him over Steph ..
Idc if you consider him a PG or SG., I’m not taking them before Curry 🤷♂️
1. Magic Johnson
2. Isaiah Thomas
3. Steph Curry
Rob is totally right and it's not a dis against Curry. He's a 2 guard and if you want to argue he's the 2nd greatest 2 guard I think anyone would have a hard time arguing that. He's on a list of some truly great players being a 2 guard like Jerry West (RIP btw) Allen Iverson, Oscar Robertson, Dwayne Wade, Kobe Bryant, Hal Greer and more i cant think of off the top of my head.
Chris smoked Rob
The Steph hate is real, Steph is a combo guard but he does both at a high efficiency
As the game continious to evolve we will have to move on from those specific roles and start referring players as guards , forwards and centers. Always seen Golden State having two shooting guards, Stephen and klay and a point forward
how did I know the end of the title was going to be sham
Parker hates this era of Basketball players.Nobody in this era is good to him 💯🤦🏾♂️
Rob: Steph is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Actually, a sheep in wolf's clothing
Steph is a hybrid pg and I’ll tell ya why cos if u wanna talk assists he accounts for 80% of gsw assists weather on the ball or off the ball he and Kerr have found a way to get the most effective and efficient assists by great vision on ball and the huge gravity he pulls off ball to get the best looks for his teammates! End of story really his stat line should say 10+ assists if we counted all the off ball assists
He's right. He isn't the second best PG of all time, he's the best.
I have a hard time viewing Steph as a better point guard than John Stockton, Steve Nash, and Jason Kidd.
steph is a pg, rob didnt watch the ball dawg. its a different era right now, steph is better than everyone you said, steph can pass the ball, steph can make a play, steph can do a lot things with the ball better than all names you said.