*HEATED DEBATE*😡 - Rory Jennings & Danny Mills CLASH Over Whether Southgate Was A Success Or Not! 👀😬
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- Danny Mills joins Rory Jennings & Adrian Durham to discuss Gareth Southgate and whether he was a success or not managing England.
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Imagine having a debate with Rory Jennings and coming out looking the stupid one. That’s some achievement Danny
You've seen his career?
This killed me 😂
Danny Mills is a known be**end. I live in the same town as him Harrogate and he’s known for it. They’re harrogate mates he’s just defending him clouding his judgement
😂😂😂😂😂
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Embarrassing for Danny Mills that he was outsmarted by Rory of all people.
Aye. That's what I was thinking
😂
Rory is blatantly smarter than Danny Mills mate 🤣
Lollllll dead
Danny made him look like a muppet. Comments like this show fans are clueless. Our fans and media are part of why we don't succeed.
Danny Mills talking as a friend to Southgate and not looking critically from the outside. Rory was 100% correct.
Danny is deluded
its because danny is southgates mate. pointless talksport asking him his view. deep down, im sure danny is glad southgates left!
He's almost as good as he was a player
@BelfastManUtdTherapy Not pointless, strategically done as they know his obviously bias inflammatory views will cause controversy and people (like us) to talk 😂
My son won a medal did he really just use that as an argument 😂😂😂
Hilarious wasn’t it
Hahahahahahahahahahahah he’s such a donut
I cried
_"Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser"_ -- Vince Lombardi
Cringe 😂😂😂
Danny Mills is a pillock! And I knew this before I heard him on the subject of Liverpool and Klopp a while ago. On Southgate, he's utterly blinkered and will not admit how dire the performances have been.
Danny Mills; "Klopp was a failure", despite winning every piece of silverware Liverpool competed for, except the europa league, but Southgate is a success for winning nothing in the same timeframe.😂😂😂Muppet!
@@rogerwhite4073 be careful what you wish for. Not directed at you Roger, but remember the dark days of going out in the group stages etc.
@@KobeCplaylost-bx3hi I wish we did go out in the group stages in 2018 and 2021. We might have a good manager now that plays good football and wins things.
@KobeCplaylost-bx3hi Southgate has had easy pathways, if we actually ever faced a tough group I'm sure we'd have been out too. But put a good manager in the dugout with the fortune that Southgate has been gifted and we would probably have back to back Euros
Dannys son practically getting called a loser on national radio was radio gold
Hahaha😂
Radio *sliver
@@Mikejames1080 hahahahah
He is a loser
Danny Mills is an absolute 🔔🔚
Mills is mightily triggered, cannot handle the facts. Would Southgates record be acceptable to Spain, Germany, Italy, France, even the Netherlands...of course not he would have been history well before now. Embracing failure. Mills is embarrassing himself.
England had not been to a final since 1966 before Southgate, he got to 2, and a Semi final of the World Cup, not done since 1990.
@AlexOjideagu2 Only a fool would see the positives in that stat.
@yoshiwoollyworldhe's beaten Spain, Croatia, Italy and Holland too. You don't know football pal
@@lukesenior4563 I believe his record against top ten teams is 7 wins from 29 matches, for a team that is itself supposed to be a top ten team that is a very poor record.
@adamchowdhury9774 that record is the 2nd best in world football. Only France have a better one
Danny is clueless..as usual
Agree. His is a waste of airtime
He had Rory Bricking it at 3:43 though lol. "Go ahead, call my son a failure Rory" Rory had to dodge that one like a politician.
@@irieite9666 Rory should have said yeah 😂😂😂 would’ve loved to see Danny’s face
I don't agree, England have been successful reaching 2 finals but the style of football isn't good...
Agreed 💯
Danny Mills makes Rory Jennings sound like a competent pundit
England were closer to going out to Slovakia than they were to beating Spain.
I’m not sure Spain got out of 2nd gear.
When I saw Bellingham start on left side midfield I knew it was over.
Facts 😂
Danny has never been the sharpest tool in the box
Ye, just the biggest one.
Danny the dim
Not a big fan of rory, but he absolutely destroyed danny here
He schooled Mills 100%
Hear hear!
Rory isn't always right, but he's bang on here.
By saying the side with the longest unbeaten run in international football are woeful?
@@paulearle3780well that bit was wrong for sure but that’s a bit straw man.
What in the name of God is Danny Mills talking about
Rory Jennings is simply stating what the majority of English fans think. Mills doesn't seem to know anything about football despite the fact he played the game.
And unfortunately majority of fans don’t know the game. England 20 years ago weren’t even thinking of finals
@@waynemarshall8836they also weren’t having pathways to the final like Southgate has had
@@waynemarshall8836 Fans are fans. They pay their money and they give their opinion.Just because their opinions is not the same as your opinion does not necessarily make them wrong or you right.
So you'd keep Southgate for another 8 years?@@waynemarshall8836
@@waynemarshall8836 And 20 years ago, England were playing better teams, were handcuffed by antiquated tactics and possessed, not unlike this tournament, no left winger. Oh wait a moment, they did! Anthony Gordon!!!
Dont be thick Danny
You're being generous! Its a dishonest and embarrassing front to convey his loyalty and blind bias to an old pal.
But he is thick
Yes, it's the old saying - if people think you thick and stupid, don't open your mouth and start talking - it only confirms that people were right!!
He can't help it
Danny’s a bit dim bless him.
Why do you have Danny come on these? He's absolutely clueless.
Cos they wanted clueless vs clueless obviously
Fully agree Mills is a tool
Two things can be true Danny Mills comes across as a tool but he knows more about playing tournament football for England than anyone on this stream 🤷🏾♂️
@@richuk69 He has more experience in playing tournament football for England yes, does that mean he's not talking utter shite?
Cus he's a clown 🤡
Rory with the W
Lightwork, against Gareth's mate
Danny Mills should never be allowed near a microphone ever again!!!
Rory is right
You Don't Win Silver, You Lose Gold 😂😂😂
Exactly, he was given silver because he couldn’t win gold 😂
Drunk fans be like - I agree with Rory and Gabby 😂😂😂
It's amazing how the losing mentality is printed in Danny...
Just imagine:
What would said Florentino Perez (Real Madrid president) to Southgate, Danny & Co?...
YOU FIRED !
(after only one week)
@@JohnDoe-kg6gynot just Danny Mills, English people in general accept mediocrity.
@@TJTOPBOY Not really, there's a reason 90% of England fans (me included) wanted him out years ago for continually bottling silverware, anything less than winning a trophy is a failure.
Danny Mills called Klopp a failure at Liverpool because he won only 1 PL title in 8 years (forgetting he won the CL, FA Cup, 2 League Cups, Super Cup and Club World Cup)
But calls Southgate a success even though he won 0 trophies in 8 years 🤦♂️
This guys picture is next to the word imbecile in the dictionary
He hates both Liverpool and Klopp. Then again he's an ex Man City player, so those kind of views go with the territory.
great point.
😂brilliant
Rory has absolutely done him up here 😂😂😂
A man tried to bring his son into you know try make it personal to stop Rory and Rory came back and told yup unsuccessful
The point about his son was garbage. in football coming runner up doesn't count. in athletics or swimming etc, bronze, silver and gold matters. not in a world cup or euros, danny
@bababa3917 exactly, of all the sports he could have compared it to,he compares it to athletics, where getting on the podium Is an achievement
someone needs to tell Danny the difference between an apple and an orange
Exactly. His son lost
@@bababa3917 Also, its hardly a worthwhile comparison, a school race and the Euros, unless maybe his son's PE teacher had also been paid 5 million a year for 8 years
The fact thay rory has to explain to the guy is so so funny.
8years of failure is not enough?😂😂😂
Rory 10-0 Mills
Danny Mills tied himself up in such knots that he ended up basically saying "fans don't make a difference." He thinks home support doesn't make a difference to a performance? Playing at Wembley as England in the final?? 😂
It obviously didn't do much for England looking at their performance in that game
All players say the fans don't make a difference
he's actually played football to a high level compared to you. He knows way more than you. Fans don't kick a single ball do they ?
@@guitarreillythis "fans don't know as much as the players" argument is the weakest of all arguments. There's plenty of fans that know enough about sports to put forward solid arguments, and for someone to say home feild isn't an advantage is a liar.
@@Dan-dd8cf Did it do much against Germany?
Rory talks total sense
Hopefully your being sarcastic
Danny Mills does talk some absolute Rubbish. We were not expected to qualify from a group of Belgium, Tunisia & Panama?? SORRY WHAT?? Fair enough you want to be bias and back your mate, but do not tell us that in any world or time period that England should finish below Tunisia & Panama in a group
ahh yes forgot that, thats what hes talking about omg what a plank
He said some very dumb things ... home advantage means nothing, this England team should be judged by the same standards as his son ... but saying we were not expected to qualify from that 2018 group is the most laughable
Mills is an absolute helmet and a garbage player
Why didn't Southgate make subs at half time against Spain.Anyone could see where the match was heading
Wasn’t he just, possibly one of the worst ever England players
@@user-lt4px7ld4u Because we didn't need to win it, according to Mills' standards, if you come second then you are really a winner
Looooooool - man questioned why a packed Wembley stadium is beneficial 😂 - at that moment Rory knew the conversation was pointless lol
WOW Danny Mills is LITERALLY the most clueless person I have ever heard on any sports show EVER!
Rory embarrassed him big time 😂
Southgate earned £40 million. That’s forty million. He won zero trophies. I’m sorry, but that’s not good value for money.
40 million is chump Change. If Pep wants 20 a season, I'll pay It. Southgate was just media friendly
. Steve Holland was the real brains not GS
Spot on
Rory is bang on here
No his not don't be silly 😂
@@dcm8327 its rare but he is
Ah you got Gareth Southgate’s boyfriend on here Danny mills who will remain completely impartial
Danny: "Italy went on a run of 35 games unbeaten before we faced them"
Also Danny: "England got to 2 finals, doesn't matter who they played in the lead up"
At least he's consistent lol
He is consistent genius. To get to 2 separate finals you have win a run of games unbeaten at international level. Italy did the same to the effect of 35 games. He’s consistently praising similar achievements.
@@JG-rn2hndid you actually like your own comment 😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂 made me laugh that. Danny wow how delusional can a person be.
@@user-xh9qm6xy2m no, but disturbing to see how excited you were at the prospect
He came 2nd, so he lost.
Mills likes participation trophies.
Rory embarrassed him here.
Englands 2018 WC group was Belgium, Tunisia and Panama. Don’t allow Danny Mills to re-write history
was thinking that, they may not been expected to win the group because that Belgium team was at its peak but they certainly where expected to get out group easy.
Danny Mills doesn't think playing at home is an advantage? Was he really a footballer?
He played for Man City so it probably wasn't an advantage for him tbf
He was but a rancid bad one.
Mill just sticking up for his mate
Playing at home doesn't matter😂Mills probably thinks we would have won in Italy
How can he be classed as a success? Despite having one of the best squad's in world football, he didn't win anything!
Don't agree with Rory much, but you have to go with him on this one. Danny is talking absolute nonsense.
Danny Mills is a complete melt man.
Always has been
@@ronoccc no argument from me there mate. Can’t stand him
Not really you just a stupid little guy
Not as much of a melt as your tinpot club!!!👍
Danny was on the other week saying Klopp was a failure because he only won 1 PL and that second was failure 😂.
Tune changed to suit his agenda.
Remind me, was Klopp the guy who won the Premier League, the Champions League, an FA Cup, two EFL Cups, the Community Shield, a UEFA Super Cup and a Fifa Club World Cup for Liverpool, or was he that bloke who got Middlesborough relegated?
What everyone is overlooking here is what lies behind England's failure. Ultimately this is down to the FA and their continual desire to appoint 'a safe pair of hands' to manage the national team rather than someone who has a proven track record, is adventurous, and will inspire the squad.
The same guy that was trash talking Klopp for winning one premier league title in 9 years is praising Southgate for failing 😂😂
At the end of the day in those 4 tournaments England only once beat a top side which was Germany in 2021 who was going through a bad time. They beat Colombia in 2018 on penalties which wasn't very convincing. All other fixtures they have had were ones that they were EXPECTED to beat. The likes of Sweden, Ukraine, Panama, Slovakia, Slovenia, Denmark etc So is it really that big of an accomplishment for Southgate doing the bare minimum ?
No James Rodriguez as well in the Colombia game..
England had not been to a final since 1966 before Southgate, he got to 2, and a Semi final of the World Cup, not done since 1990.
@@AlexOjideagu2That's irrelevant. Southgate had easy draws and top players and failed to cash in.
@@adtastic1533 England were knocked out by Iceland in 2016. Wasn't that an easy draw? Bobby Robson and Terry Venables are still talked about like Heroes. Just for getting to a World Cup semi and a Euro 96 semi final. That's how significant it was. Southgate eclipsed them both combined and he gets hate.
That was Germany side who had not played in a Quarter final since 2016
I agree with Rory should of won Euro 2020
Absolute rubbish. We SHOULD of beaten a world record breaking Italy!? So deluded
Italy outplayed England for majority of the game.
Italy was the best team that tournament. When their midfield was fit they were a great team. Describing them as woeful is ignorant
Wondered how long it would take mills to mention his son.
Mills was awful for England.bit rich for him to talk about winners.
Danny mills… you are wrong. I’m hugely critical of Southgate but I don’t expect to win anything. I expect us to be well prepared and in sync to give us the best chance. We were never going to beat Spain… or Germany, France or Portugal if we met them in the final cos we weren’t prepared. That’s it.
England's entire history is not a success, they don't call them the Spurs of national football for nothing
I like and respect Gareth Southgate as a person, but he just hasn't brought the best out of what is, on paper, a fabulous group of players. To mix my sports, England's footballers played in this tournament like a fantastically gifted batsman who, instead of destroying the bowlers with his range of powerful attacking shots, instead just blocks and blocks, pushing half volleys meekly back to the bowler. Southgate's always been a defensive manager, but we have at times played some good football in the previous three tournaments, scoring quite a few goals in the process. However, it was at times painful to watch England in this year's Euros, and I for one don't know why.
Danny insinuating that there is no such thing as home advantage in football was so cringe.
rorys spot on, mills is southgates mate, glad he's gone
Even Danny’s broadband gave up on him
Notice how all the Southgate backers have to leave out context? It’s always “semi-final this”, and “final that.”
8:10 Danny who’s your dealer? The 2018 WC group had Belgium, England, Tunisia and Panama.
How were England not expected to get out that group??
How can anyone think this is the best group of players England have had??
Because as a whole squad it is. There are better trans and individuals, but the depth of talent has never been better with our rival footballing powers weaker
@@eldictator1 there isn't one world class, not one world class center mid. The goal keeper is average, Shaw is always injured, walker is finished, saka is ok, kane and Bellingham are top level. Foden is decent and the rest are ok. Cop on mate, go back to 1990, 1996, 2002,2006 teams were all better. Rio, Neville, cole, Terry, King, Campbell, Hargreaves, Carrick, Gerrard, Lampard, Scholes, Beckham, Owen, Rooney. Cop on
Yeah I don’t get that. There have been better squads this century alone.
Danny Mills at it again... Safegate had easy run-ins. We play someone on par or better we get beat...He should have been sacked on the spot after the Italy game 👍
Agreed 100% Southgate played for penalties from the 3rd minute of that Italy game.
Danny Mills is the biggest plank going
Rory pretending Gareth should leave now because its been 8 years is hilarious
Rory was demanding Southgate be sacked at least 3 years ago....
And? What's the obsession with Southgate? He was a useless novice manager before he got the job
If a top club manager had 4 goes at the FA cup and beat League 2 teams on the way to the semi and final would you conclude that was a good campaign because they eventually lost to a Premier league team?
Southgate isn’t exactly Klopp though. He did a lot right but on the pitch he is below average let’s be real.
@MathewParker-by4nx you are comparing England who have won 2 trophy ever and got knocked out to Iceland in 16 to a top 4 club... !? Bahaha you need to learn football
@skar8173 yea and he did a great job with England. I'm 39 and 2018 to 24 were the best England years of my life
The pair of them are absolute bellends!
What’s the common denominator? They’re both English 😂
Adrian didn't want to get involved.Probably found it great entertainment😂
Danny mills is a nob who cares what he thinks
What a crock of BS from Danny Mills!
Danny Who? Rory destroyed him on this argument
Earth to Danny Your son lost mate 😂
England got beat in the final by the best team in the tournament. Not the best players but the best TEAM! No shame in it.
Who's fault is it when u have better players but not the better team?
They were utter dross the whole tournament mate. They were seconds away from going out to….wait for it….Slovakia.
@@MathewParker-by4nxcould’ve, would’ve, should’ve🙄we got to a final again
@@michaelcorleone7598 could’ve, would’ve, should’ve, you won nothing again
Danny Mills is the type of guy to get his papergirl sacked for not pushing it all the way through letterbox.
I am tired of certain pundits gaslighting us over Southgate. I have not heard one logical reason as to why he should have kept playing the same players throughout the tournament or why it took four games to pick Maino. The lack of chemistry between Saka-Bellingham-Foden-Kane was alarming. Serious questions have to be asked about his competence and why him and Steve Holland would not change that. No one can defend that inaction. Really sick of people then saying the criticism is over the top. No it's not. Danny Mills should not be considered a respectable pundit for failing to acknowledge why England lost to Italy in the final. It shows bias and a lack of basic understanding.
Danny is an absolute tool
Danny Wake up.
England has no one to replace Southgate. It'll probably be Carsley. They should've kept Southgate for his luck alone.
Danny Mills once again making my girl friend who doesn't even watch the game look like an expert on football
Who the hell is Rory Jennings😅😅😅
Is danny on drugs?😂😂😂😂
Danny Mills defending his mate is just embarrassing and to say a home advance isn’t an advantage? What a muppet
Danny Mills is the ultimate Southgate apologist. He is so clueless.
Rory guy, I can name at least 5 teams in euro 2024 that were better than England , you need to relax
Rory is completely wrong about Italy. They were a much better team than England.
Italy missed 2 World Cups while England got to a Semi and 2 finals. In Italy they certainly don't
regard their team as better.
@AlexOjideagu2 they were much better than england - 34 game winning streak and they looked awesome in that tournament. I remember.
I think he meant that a lot of the Italian players weren't top division, while England had loads of premier League stars. Ultimately, however, they were the better team. Which brings us back to management.
Sure, they were a better team but they didn't have better players. So who's fault is that when you have better players but a worse team?
@adtastic1533 I think the English massively overstate the quality of English players. Case in point: Foden. He is shite for England and was pretty shite for Man City until last season, but he's not even close to Man City's best player, much less the Premier leagues best. That accolade falls squarely on Rodri, without whom Man City are woeful and pretty much lose games. Yet Foden got player of season - English bias towards English players. English players aren't really any better than the players of other great footballing nations. This gets exposed in national tournaments.
I do not like Rory, but jesus Danny Mills smug face whilst saying utter shite is rage inducing
Rory picks and chooses his facts to build a narrative. You could just as easily say England loss the final against Italy because the ref didn’t do his job and sent off Ceillini. These are the fine margins of a 90 min match. For him to just hand wave the Italian team who went on a unbeaten run and who ALSO MADE IT TO THE FINAL is actually insane
Mills going on like an Israeli
Chelsea fan here. Can we ffs get this Rory fella out of Talk Sport? Ta very much.
He is the worst
I skip all his shows
Greetings from Centre Parcs 😅
Hater focus on conversation is he wrong
Fair play Rory. Countered Danny’s nonsense with ease there
I agree with Rory for once
If you’re gonna get knocked out the euros there’s no shame losing to Spain who beat all the favourites… Mills is correct.. it’s entitlement.
But our players are 100x better than spains lmao rodri is the only one who makes it in the side
Nope called standards
@@chapman2001not true, Spain got a lot of talented players
@@chapman2001Huge difference in having better players & playing as a team rather than individuals. Think about it…
@@chapman2001 Rodri, Fabian Ruiz, Yamal, Williams and Laporte walk into this England team
Rory is such a plank!! Lol
What is Danny thick head Mills then!
I can’t express how much I despise Rory, truly, but he held his own and made Danny look the sychophant that he is.
Imagine getting cooked by Rory 💀
Rory is hands down the most annoying person on talksport, and those people includes jim white who is tough to be more annoying than..
Haaland won't score 10 he said
💯
_"Rory is hands down the most annoying person on talksport"_
Danny Mills: Hold my beer
@steveblundell7766 I dislike danny Mills as much as the next man, but Rory is absolutely Intolerable
It's entitlement to think it was win or bust... Gareth's tenure has been a success in my opinion.
No wonder England haven't won anything for 60 years, their fans actually approve of it
Mills knows him as a friend…not going to be negative about him as he does with others he has no relationship with.
6:29 playing at home has nothing to do with it?? Danny is so deluded
Mills might be bald but he isn't wrong. There is a sense of self-entitlement within the England fanbase. Any other country that played awful but managed to reach a final would have some perspective. We go on like we're historical world beaters.
not true. You don't speak foreign do you? Performance matters, and other county's press will tell you this, and I can assure you that they haven't been kind to England. Southgate apolagists rely on his tournament record which ignores what everyone can see, which is that England are tactically boring, negative and naive. Klop, Guardiola and Emery have proven in the Premier League that coaching and management matters, and that the manager decides how the team play. Southgate deserves to be judged on these elements, no matter how woeful England's performances have been in the past.
It’s to do with the calibre of individuals that typically watch football in England. England Rugby/Cricket fans are very sensible.
England had not been to a final since 1966 before Southgate, he got to 2, and a Semi final of the World Cup, not done since 1990.
Nonsense. When you've been in 2 finals and a semi against beatable teams and failed to win any of them then fans are entitled to want better.
@@adtastic1533 Of course fans are entitled to want better, that would be the whole point of a fan. Chucking cups at him though? Your point about the 2 finals and a semi kinda agrees with mine. Before that recent "success" as you put it under Southgate, what did we win? What were we? Why did we have this over the top expectation? Arrogance.
Rory ain’t really an England fan and he ain’t really a CZcamsr either as he doesn’t have 500K subs let alone 1M! We should support the team and new manger unconditionally! Thanks for everything Gareth! We go again in 2 years! 💪🏴 60 years of hurt never stopped us dreaming! 🏴
how he is on this platform is a f*cking joke hes a pleb and so is mills
This is what a losing mentality looks like. Criticising doesn't equal non support. You criticise the things you love because you want them to improve. If fans see their team performing badly, they kick off because they want them to perform well. As Gordon said "it's a good thing when fans criticise us because they think we're better than we're showing." That's a mature attitude. Not "You have to support everything we do! Even if it's very clearly not going to result in a trophy! It's not about winning it's about having fun!" 😂
At the 2018 world cup England's group was Tunisia, Panama, and Belgium and they was not expected to get out of the group 😂😂
Danny Mills took a massive L here 😅